Please let me know how to further streamline this program =) [Archive]

Ultragod

12-08-2006, 10:29 AM

I have no need 4 waveform display or 3D icons & shading & whatnot. They all eat resources. 4 example, I run a modified version of Winblow$ 95. It is stable, about 20X (literally) faster than XP, running tripple big Trinitron setup, 6TB of drives & a whole host of things 'Window's can't do'.

My request is this - how do I ELIMINATE:

Waveform display (solid bar 2 denote length of sections is fine by me!)

Shading (solid colors R fine & fast :)

3D Icons (nice 'Winblows 95' standard modified is my fave. I simply changed some of the colors (darker grey, green highlight 4 selected stuff, etc.) - my point - a simple 'retro 95' fast icon set is good. WHere can I get?

I haven't loaded the program as U might have guessed. I'm not even interested in looking at it unless I can disable the waveform display. It slows all the 20gazillion audio editor programs out there down 2 molasses. I want stuff 2 load IMMEDIATELY in REAL TIME - in other words, so the program reads as it goes, rather than reads the whole damn recording 4 5 minutes just 2 get going LOL

Let me know - peter845@hotmail.com

REAL TIME - no waveform or 'walpaper' nonsense. I tried Cakewalk once - they pay more attention 2 cosmetics than function. & don't get me started on stuff like Samplitude - knobs??? IT'S AN EFFING COMPUTER NOT A PIECE OF RACK GEAR!!! Oh I am going to 'turn' the knob with my mouse? (give me a break!!!)

Hey at least U don't put knobs in Reaper (so far as the screen shots U posted :) Thanx!

Ultragod

12-08-2006, 10:32 AM

Currently I use Vegas & Acid. They're overcomplicated though - as in, they display the waveform & crap like that nobody needs. What in 1970 they couldn't make music because nobody had a pretty computer display of a silly wave shape on a screen? THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE 'PUTERS!!!

Mandatory waveform display has got 2 B the lamest thing in the history of the Earth - OK I am exagerating, but it's so effin useless. Bars! There was a proggie called 'darkwave' 4 Linux - N E 1 know where I can get a copy? I know it just had simple bars. I bet it was wicked fast! The simpler the GUY, well it helps make everything faster :D

Any programmer who makes a 'software knob' should B killed. It's a COMPUTER! Make a SLIDER!!! :D

bullshark

12-08-2006, 11:08 AM

I think you'd be much happier with this:

http://img77.**************/img77/8237/reeltoreelrecorderwc4.jpg

Then, get this upgrade pack and you'll be in heaven:

http://img461.**************/img461/1048/reelreelyi0.jpg

No waveforem display and no CPU consumption at all.

Ben Zero

12-08-2006, 11:47 AM

Surely it'd be better if DAWs didn't show any graphics at all, and just displayed everything as raw binary? I'm informed everything would run a lot quicker that way.

Diogenes

12-08-2006, 12:06 PM

The simpler the GUY, well it helps make everything faster

I don't know about that one... most simple GUY's I know are not too quick... :D

D

Ben Zero

12-08-2006, 12:22 PM

Yeah, simple guys probably aren't the answer.

Youn

12-08-2006, 12:40 PM

you can disable waveform and you can use "old school" icon theme which should work for windows 95

try it

LOSER

12-08-2006, 12:44 PM

Any programmer who makes a 'software knob' should B killed. It's a COMPUTER! Make a SLIDER!!! :D

First of a computer doesn't care about whether it's a knob or a fader, all it knows is "I gotta draw that pixels", so it's NO differents for the computer.

To answer your other questions:

1. I won't mail you, HELL NO, I won't!

2. To get rid of the waveform display:
1. Preferences -> Appearance (Media) -> diable "Display peaks for media items"
2. Preferences -> Media -> diable "Build/update missing peaks when media is brought back online" and "Auto generate peak caches.." (disable both)

3. Get rid of the gradients:
1. Preferences -> Appearance -> diable "Enable gradient backgrounds"

4. Regarding the icons:
PCs don't care whether they gotta draw fancy or ugly icons they just do it. But if you really need windows 95 icons I'd suggest you get an icon editor and make one on your own...

Regarding win 95: reaper does not run on win 95 (well might be win 98 with old win 95 explorer, though)

Diogenes

12-08-2006, 12:52 PM

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/gtr4Him/magix_mixer.jpg

Which makes the best use of valuable screen real estate?

D

bullshark

12-08-2006, 12:57 PM

Well, actually, looking at this you probably could do away with both knobs and faders; just click and hold the value box, slide up to increase value and down to decrease value.

LOSER

12-08-2006, 01:08 PM

Well since I'm pro fader:

http://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/6725/fadermockup.png
(Bad mockup powered by MS Paint :))
But I don't care whether these are faders or knobs when you can drag the knobs like faders (I hate dragging them circular!).

Well, actually, looking at this you probably could do away with both knobs and faders; just click and hold the value box, slide up to increase value and down to decrease value.

But this way the visual indicator would be missing...

Youn

12-08-2006, 01:15 PM

Well, actually, looking at this you probably could do away with both knobs and faders; just click and hold the value box, slide up to increase value and down to decrease value.

OMG SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME ON THIS!!!! I've argued this method with people for years it seems. Do away with graphics as much as possible, even values are often used to determine audio settings... WTF!? Even if you force yourself not to look, I can't help but see that Kick Drum is at 0.13dB and I want to nudge it to 0.00dB so it can look "neat" - damn ME!!! I'm so pathetic, why can't I use my ears... DAMN THIS VISUAL WORLD WE LIVE IN!!!

Youn

12-08-2006, 01:18 PM

seriously though, moving a fader side-to-side is painful, up and down is better. If things are knobs, and there setting to make them either up/down or left/right, I'd definately prefer that over faders. In REAPER I always use the mouse wheel though, which also works fine.

bullshark

12-08-2006, 01:24 PM

Anywho, I had a deep, illuminating, almost religious, experience this week concerning audio application interface:

http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=plugin1

I watched the whole thing with my jaw wide open. Gotta be the most intuitive, efficient, user friendly, fun and musical GUI I ever laid my eyes on. Almost made me want to buy, even thought I'm not a singer and have relatively not much use for it.

bullshark

12-08-2006, 01:29 PM

Youn

12-08-2006, 01:50 PM

But the post I replied to had to do with screen real estate and nothing else. From that stand point alone your sarcasm is quite uncalled for...

what sarcasm? you kill two birds with one stone: save space AND make users use their ears more... that's all I was sayin' :)

bullshark

12-08-2006, 01:58 PM

what sarcasm? you kill two birds with one stone: save space AND make users use their ears more... that's all I was sayin' :)

Ok, guess I mistook the allcap and excamation points for sarcasm, sorry about that.

Youn

12-08-2006, 02:06 PM

forgot to lace it with smileys, my fault too :)

Diogenes

12-08-2006, 02:14 PM

This is a screen shot of PMIX I put up to help a guy understand routing a little better so it really does not point out the details... But see the knobs? You click one and a fader appears with the mouse pointer snapping to the slider. You get the screen savings and visual feedback from knobs but the ease of use of a slider.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/gtr4Him/pmix.jpg

Confused? Me too... :D

D

EDIT: Here is a better pic. I clicked the Pan knob for Dock Mic/Line B. Of course, "Print Screen" hides the pointer but you get the idea yes?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/gtr4Him/pmix_knob.jpg

Ultragod

12-10-2006, 05:06 AM

I have read each of the responses & here R my comments:

bullshark (the insulting retard): I don't like tape because it is slow & there is no random access. I used 2 own 4 ADAT XT - it was an effin' nightmare compared 2 Vegas

Ben Zero (insulting retard #2): Telling me 2 read binary is like telling someone to drink gas to speed their walking, because cars are faster than legs. Go screw yourself. We R not machines.

Diogenes: The simpler a GUI is, the quicker it is (all else being equal). I use the very first pre-95 shell because it's literally about 20X faster than XP. 2 B honest I've not clocked it - it is INSTANTANEOUS as far as eyes can see - just snaps N E function INSTANTLY. XP is a pathetic joke. I will try Vista - may move over if it is not as crippled sh*t as XP is. I hope finaly Micro$hit actually releases something USEFUL besides just the first 95 pre-IE shell & the driver section from 98SE! Tripple monitors R nice indeed :)

Ben Zero: No, simple GUI R in fact the answer 2 extra speed. The less work a CPU has 2 do, the easier it is to recognize, drag & control functions, the more quick & easy a program will B 2 use. It is the reason I like Acid & Vegas - minimum bullsh*t. I am interested however in something that can natively record all the stuff in OGG or something, 2 save drive space - so I can record even more fun stuff, & on other smaller devices

Youn: "you can disable waveform and you can use "old school" icon theme which should work for windows 95" - ANSWER the question - HOW wold this B done? What do I click, enter, adjust - & in what order 2 achieve this result?

LOSER (he chose that name): "First of a computer doesn't care about whether it's a knob or a fader, all it knows is "I gotta draw that pixels", so it's NO differents for the computer." - wrong, takes more CPU cycles 2 draw something complex - especially on the graphics card.

"To get rid of the waveform display:
1. Preferences -> Appearance (Media) -> diable "Display peaks for media items"
2. Preferences -> Media -> diable "Build/update missing peaks when media is brought back online" and "Auto generate peak caches.." (disable both)

3. Get rid of the gradients:
1. Preferences -> Appearance -> diable "Enable gradient backgrounds"

4. Regarding the icons:
PCs don't care whether they gotta draw fancy or ugly icons they just do it. But if you really need windows 95 icons I'd suggest you get an icon editor and make one on your own..."

I don't give a sh*t what the OS name is - I just want simple fader 'blocks' U can quicly & easily grab with the mouse & adjust. Pan should B left & right because it's intuitive. Volume, up & down, & so on - or a feature 2 toggle that 2 user preference. Horizontal certainly saves the most screen real estate (Vegas/Acid style :)

Diogenes: The picture U chose has a knob section without bar graphs, whereas the slider section has much more information. Knobs take more brain power to determine their position also, whereas a slider (or bar/graph) communicates it's value 2 your brain INSTANTLY. Knobs are sh*t 4 human communication on a mixer board, just as they are in software. Bar graphs would B the best.

bullshark: "Well, actually, looking at this you probably could do away with both knobs and faders; just click and hold the value box, slide up to increase value and down to decrease value." - That is an EXCELLENT idea! :D Actually, horizontal little bars - like U C in 'download progress' bars in a web interface would B ideal, & then just click them 2 change their value up or down - right or left - depending on what the user perfers 4 that function. Hell control TWO things with the mouse at once - up/down 4 1, left/right 4 another - like volume/pan. The value could B displayed in a square as a dot instead of a bar. NOW THAT would B ideal! Imagine how many channels of volume & pan could B easily controled with THAT! & say, double click it 2 display a number value 4 each, such as 'Pan=28L, Vol=25" & so on - people could, instead of the silly 'db' levels, just display everything as values between 1-10, or 1-100. Say, double clicking it again toggles it 2 a pair of bar graphs - the top displays a pan line, the bottom displays a solid filled bar 4 level. R U programmers listening 2 this? Imagine the speed with which a user could command this interface! WoW!

LOSER: Pro fader is good, but the idea I outlined above is even better =8^)

Youn: That's true - should offer 4 each function the ability to toggle a 'snap 2 value' display in incriments of 1, .5, .1, .01 (your 0.13 value as described)

Youn: True up/down is easier, but with pan it is not intuitive. The user should B given the choice 2 toggle this - right-left or up-down control 4 various faders such as pan. I prefer right-left 4 pan at least :) Of course, in multi-channel surround, it should B all directions - say, in a circle or box shape, with a dot in the middle denoting volume by distance from center, & position by degree off-axis from top center - kind of like a radar screen. Using a box is also just as intuitive as a circle, & gives a bit of extra fine control due 2 increased space at the corners, all with the same ammount of screen real estate.

bullshark: That Melodyne is a very cool toy 4 doing techno tricks. It certainly will B most useless for N E part without a particularly dominant note - or if doing things out of tune or in non-standard tunings, but looks cool enough 2 steal off Kazaa or something. If it were a reasonable price, like $30 or something, I would B happy 2 buy it instead of steal it. What an effing ripoff. Programers R such jackasses, crippling everything then pretending the version that is actually what they wrote in the first place is worth $700 or some crap like that - meanwhile U can B certain they have purposely laced it with plenty of bugs 2 keep U 'upgrading' 4 years - following the scam mechanism laid down by crooks like MicroFlop. Y I still use the shell from 95!!! IT's the only thing M$ put out that is stable, fast, works. Ever notice how later versions of Winblows freeze up? Not so with the pre-IE95! Infinite networking connections, etc. Put a gig of RAM on a 98SE machine with the extra drivers from ME & the first shel from 95 pre-IE. Notice how it will B about 20X faster & more stable than an XP machine.

U know the funniest thing about XP - I kid U not - as soon as I tried it, immediately got popup spam trying 2 mess up my machine - literally like people on my machine messing with me. I heard this was 'normal' - WTF! Like I should have 2 tweak something 2 'fix' this - as if it was some great 'mystery' & Micro$shit didn't know it could happen - give me a break! I wouldn't B surprised if M$ puts out half the viruses out there covertly as a means of trapping people into constant upgrades & 'security fixes' & ESPECIALLY service calls. Many of the bugs put into programs by various manufacturers is 2 generate service revenue, just like all American cars are designed to fall apart as soon as the warranty expires! U know this is true.

Diogenes: The pop-up idea is great. Vegas/Acid have that - at least the versions I use. Gives U extra fine control. Collapsing 2 a bar graph &/or 'point display/radar' look R useful 4 then saving space after adjustment. A 'grid' of many channels, stacked in several rows, would B awesome. I will make a layout like I describe & post a pic 4 U programmer guys 2 have a gander at - the ultimate audio production interface! Zero bullshit, 100% quick & easy functionality!

Ultragod

12-10-2006, 05:36 AM

P.S.: Thought this went without saying, but should add this statement --> OF COURSE by all means follow WINDOWS CONVENTIONS with the cosmetics. The user should B able 2 choose the theme via the usual 'display' settings within Winblows, & have those translate 2 the program, just as the user set them. If they choose a darker grey, or green text, or particular colors, those will B carried over into the program & displayed as the user set them in Winblow$.

I do mock Windoze a lot, but in terms of flexibility & user interface, everything else out there is so incredibly infinitely worse. Mac as well yes - I laughed so hard first time I tried Mac - it was OS9 (OSX is just BSD). No menu bar, constantly changing function lists, no way 2 determine what is opening without 'shuffling papers' on your 'desktop'.

I suspect 1 of the reasons people think Mac is faster is because it's so difficult 2 manage multiple streams of work, that people only do a very few things at a time. Meanwhile U can use a program like 'Process explorer' in Winblows 2 arrange CPU priority as U like, running 40+ simultaneous downloads, br4owsing the net, watching a movie, & listening 2 MP3 & doing image manipulation & other stuff all at once - very very easily. Add also a multiple desktop toggle like JSpager or Triplus Winspace (easier) & U R really swingin! :)

If U want speed, Dragonfly BSD is it. Bitch 2 use tho - & not flexible. Ideally somebody should also port this 'ideal media processor' program 2 Dragonfly - or even better yet, port it 2 SONY CELL KERNEL - now THAT would seriously kick some ass. It would destroy all current offerings in the marketplace - so fast & cheap 2 deploy (simply get an ethernet audio interface & a Sony PS3) the entire studio industry would B turned on it's head yet again - home studio as well.

R U listening Reaper guys? U R the Grim Reaper of the software competition. Include the simple & fast functionality & interface I describe, & port it 2 NATIVE run on the CELL KERNEL - goddamn that would effin' SCREAM! Could probably do a bunch of instruments & recording & effects all with zero latency surround monitoring. WoW.

Count me in! :D What would I pay 4 something like this 2 work on the cell? Well, if it were not purposely crippled, $500. I bet there R a lot of folks like me who would also like a good audio studio on the PS3 2 replace all their rack gear.

Hell later U could add video editing. The most important features I think would B flesible keying & overlaying/mixing of multiple video streams. 4 example, people can easily steal various parts from movies & manipulate them in a manner similar 2 Adobe Photo Deluxe version 1 (by far the quickest most fun program 4 layering stuff), but with full motion HD video! haha - now that would B something - say goodbye commercial studios. Power 2 the people mannn.

Key being when U manipulate stuff enough, it is no longer like the source & U can't B sued 4 it. Case in point - does this look like porn? Well it was made from porno pix, layered, tweaked - can do the same 4 special effects with video...

<img src="http://neptuneholographics.com/art/gene_baxter/punisher.jpg">

Or, a less abstract example -

<img src="http://neptuneholographics.com/art/gene_baxter/the_artist.jpg">

Seems my account does not have image linking enabled - paste it in yer' browsers then :)

LOSER

12-10-2006, 05:05 PM

I don't give a sh*t what the OS name is - I just want simple fader 'blocks' U can quicly & easily grab with the mouse & adjust. Pan should B left & right because it's intuitive. Volume, up & down, & so on - or a feature 2 toggle that 2 user preference. Horizontal certainly saves the most screen real estate (Vegas/Acid style :)

Well I don't really care about the OS name either (still on Win98SE), but I think REAPER is streamlined enough and GUIs don't take too much speed from your system (at least if they aren't some 3D-ultra-glow-shinny-realtime-shadowing-crap) IMO...

But did disabling the wavedraw + gradients make you at least a bit more happy :)

Justin

12-10-2006, 09:49 PM

you can definitely turn off peaks etc in reaper... but I doubt reaper will run on win95. 98, yes..

Ultragod

12-12-2006, 02:54 AM

Jeez dudes it's so friggin obvious - the simpler the graphics, the faster the draw!!! Is it easier 2 make 1 big black screen than a zillion DIFFERENT OBJECTS, LINES, COLORS etc? OF COURSE it is!!! The LESS the computer has 2 do, the FASTER it will do it! Waveform draw is useless B.S. yes, but so are knobs with knurling & stuff - I mean come on - does my 'finger' need 'traction' on your friggin Reaper 'slider'? Then Y draw in ridges on the graphic? It's effin' RIDICULOUS!!! Almost as ridic as knobs LOL

I love the 'ckick a bar' idea - click a bar with level displayed, pops up a slider - simple slider - then pops back - bla bla - went over this, but guys if U wanna' get your 'puter really fast, disable all that NONSENSE!!! Believe me - I know - I've tried. People never believe my test system is a 400Mhz (yes, that's correct :)

Did U know that Yahoo up until about 1996 used a total of 5 lil' PCs between 100-200Mhz running BSD? Well listen & learn. Did U know that typical digal mixer - such as Yamaha's DMP series, that has 16 channels of EQ, compression, 2 multi-effects - all with continuus automation & MIDi bla bla - guess what the CPU speed was? 40mhz. No, not 400. Not 4 giga (thousand) - no - 40! That's about 1/100 (1%) the speed of today's machines, with about the SAME real-time capabilities. What was the difference? Less overhead BULLSHIT! Hell if the same philosophy were carried 2 todays PC harware - the 'economize' they do with the Yamaha mixers - we could run 1600 channels of 3 band parametric EQ, 400 dynamics processors, 200 multi-effect plugins - I mean seriously - do the math. Problem is the PROGRAMMERS WASTE CPU CYCLES ON BULLSHIT!!!!

ECONOMIZE DAMNIT! 4 THE LOVE OF FUK, ECONOMIZE YOUR CODE!!!!

How do U think I am running 6tb & fancy A/V editing on a 'P.O.S.' (piece of shit) AMD 400? I mean come on - it's not the hardware that's keeping U from speed - it's the damn PROGRAMMERS & OS CRIPPLING. U gotta tweak - distill the essence, use ONLY what produces WORK, not WASTE.

Crap like 'texture gradients' & 'transparency' (think vista image mixing LOL) etc! that stuff is all stupid 'window dressing' that does NOTHING 4 functionality but make it look nicer when it's sitting still.

Another thing that speeds things up a lot is making a fixed swap file size (less fragmentation). Further speed by moving the program U will B using 2 RAM in a 'ramdrive' (there is a free French program that makes them up 2 2GB, bigger paid versions available). Running a program from ramdrive makes it about instantaneous. Make sure the cache points 2 the RAMDRIVE as well. If U got enough RAM, put the Windoze swap file on it as well (Windows native memory management is really bad). Also, make sure U have enough RAM so U don't have 2 constantly reload DLLs - stuff like 'Rambooster' just unloads DLLs, which then must B reloaded next time U use that 'window' that pulled them up in the first place, etc. I suggest at least 750mb 4 an editing machine - really makes a big difference. About 300MB will quickly fill with DLLs & shit, & make ya'self a nice 150mb swapfile there also. That leaves about 300mb 4 your 'workspace'. If U R editing full movies & stuff, better 2 get a commercial RAMDRIVE program & run a few more gigs. It's great because when U R cutting & pasting & whatever, nothing will slow it down - whereas drives need 2 seek.

B sure 2 CONSTANTLY save your work? I am Mr. 'alt>f>s' haha :)

Next thing - regarding Reaper - would B nice 2 have a 'use keyboard as smapler trigger' interface - & can use mouse as dual control - say, volume & pan - while playing :D & longer U hold a key, softer the volume. Faster, the louder. New thread time...

Ultragod

12-12-2006, 03:07 AM

By the way, system note - U can get my main mobo on Ebay 4 about $10. THe CPU - I dunno, probably $6. Hell U can buy a pallate full of about 40X 400mhz 'misclaneous' PCs in Ebay's 'wholesale lots' section usually 4 under $50 - yes, fifty dollars.

Meanwhile people will spend that on a silly CPU fan 4 their latest 'XP cripplecode heat waster CPU' LOL

Hell I even underclock mine so I can run it with the fan off. Yes that's correct - UNDERclock - like they do in a laptop :) Or really, what it SHOULD B clocked at in the first place. Stuff should run cool - not NEED a bunch of screaming-ass noisy fans on it. If U want a 1.5ghz, buy a 3ghz & cut the speed with the settings in half, then U will have a nice 'silent' AND even more reliable PC.

I've had my 'test PC' on for about 8 years straight. Asus makes reliable boards - at least as far as I've tried (just a few models). Mainly the caps - bla bla. Bad caps R bad news - usually when I C a burned mobo it's from those hot machines or cheap mobos.

The board I use also has a really crappy chipset- ALI - not as awful as VIA (nothing is worse than VIA) - but no Intel / AMD that's 4 sure :))

OK now I'm ranting haha

Ultragod

12-12-2006, 03:17 AM

OH by the way, I bet the old Yamaha digital mixers run TRON OS - most Asian products do, such as anti-lock breaks in Hondas, cell phones, PDAs, etc - all TRON! :) It can run on PC as well. Ideally Reaper should B ported in some way 2 run directly on the Sony PS3 exokernel. That would simply kill every competitor out there - end of story. U probably really could do new & fascinating things at that point - like realy emulate a tube amp instead of all the harsh junk people lie & call 'emulators' these days HAHA

Oooh a rack of emulated fancy gear - how cool! Neves, Focusrites, Avalons, whatever - U can get close with that Waves tool 2 a Focusrite (pretty amazing).

More importantly though is 2 have say 30 channels or so all in very fast REALTIME so can play along more easily - play & mix 30 channels or so in realtime with no latency - then won't need N E outboard mixers, etc - run instruments, bla bla - PS3!!! :D Port this thing 2 PS3!!! Wheeee!

Alistair S

12-12-2006, 03:56 AM

I almost feel like I have been taken back to the late 70s/early 80s.

Colleagues would spend valuable girl-grabbing time down the pub arguing about the most efficient way to search an array.

I am far from cutting edge in terms of technology and Reaper does just fine for me. It does the job. That's enough. Now I can do what I want to do.

There are too many other things to worry about and do in life than sweat over whether I am getting every last drop out of my computer to be honest. And my time is more valuable than that.

http://images.kaneva.com/22029/18141/GiveADamn.gif

todd24

12-12-2006, 08:00 AM

Given the low cost of power......why bother. I have $300 in my computer and it is runing 24+ tracks loaded wiht FX. I dont need more. Not that I dont think faster is better, its just not the end of it all.

Dude, it really isnt hard to type out "to" instead of 2, or "be" instead of B. Try it!

Youn

12-12-2006, 09:28 AM

ultragod is my hero

Vertigo50

12-19-2006, 01:10 AM

No offense, but your quest to get the last .04% of processing power out of your system is pointless.

Given the fact that you have "freeze" functions and rendering of FX to conserve power, this is a null issue.

Besides, for most people, all those "fancy graphics" you're so worried about actually cause most people to work more efficiently. And if you don't think you'll be more inspired and creative looking at a screen with nice smooth edges and gradients than looking at a blocky Win95 interface, then you don't understand how the human brain works.

If you're truly looking for the ultimate in simplicity, you should be running the DOS version of Cakewalk 1.0 or 2.0 or something like that. Now you have NO GUI to get in your way at all. Why would you even be looking at new software if you're so concerned about everything being stripped down? You know they're adding more things to the mix.

Ultragod

12-23-2006, 12:37 AM

I am not here to argue whether stripping Reaper down 2 it's essence is a worthwhile endeavor. If you want bloatware bullshit, go post in the 'I Love Windows XP' forum or something LOL

U know, until a few years ago Yahoo's entire site was run on about 5 machines between 100-200Mhz. They all ran BSD 2.0 or something. Now, could do the same thing I suppose with NT or something - probably would take a hundred machines, & 5 guys 2 fiddle with it non-stop (like Myspace HAHA) 'cuz it's purposely loaded with bugs 2 generate service contracts. U know, like how cars break once the warranty expires :D

I guess I felt the urge 2 educate your asses. By the way, tried out Reaper today. Of course, most of it's features don't work - for example, all the 'Jesusonic' stuff gives 'page error' whatever. Guys, WTF R U trying 2 sell software 4 that is half bugs? Strip out the garbage & when it DOES work, THEN include it. I would B far happier with a program (N E 1 would really) that was all good solid stuff, with perhaps a clearly labeled 'experimental' section, rather than something where U never know if the next effin' thing U click is gonna' crash it! HAHAHAHAHA

What hacks! :))

I probably will B sending U some $$$ regardless, if U add the 'square pan' feature like I yakked about. By the way, check out what I mean by stripped down. This thing is awesome. U guys could learn a lot from this program. Perhaps U guys should combine forces - I mean U Reaper writers & these Gizmo guys...

U know what else, all U slave fuckers trying 2 pretend it's nice 2 have junk - well get a clue. Snap out of it. This is about elevating technology - not USELESS cosmetic BULLSHIT.

Look & learn...

http://www.buzzle.de/dl/BUZZle_R76_deskCap.avi

Wow - so cool! :D Now THAT'S a cool trackking idea - vertical, with data-type information.

Hey speaking of 'dos programs' - U know that guy Aphex Twin, Thomas Dolby, etc - well Aphex (whatever he is) is a programmer. Thomas, back B 4 they even had MIDI - wes programming lighting equipment 2 play sequences LOL I'm not into synths - just a point, sometimes U gotta come up with unique solutions. U can try & buy yourself a 10GHZ PC & run lots of cool effects, or U can streamline the software & do it all on a 200mhz machine.

Also a question - Y do software reverbs still suck so bad??? I mean come on guys - buy yourself a $100 Sony TAE1000ESD off Ebay. An Alesis Midiverb II, or some Lexicons - I mean hell even the worst is night & day compared 2 this software NONSENSE! U write with your asses or what? Why the hell can an old Sony with two lil chips about the size of a pencil eraser (I know, I looked inside) do these fab natural reverbs, & your program on a fancy machine with literally 10,000 X the processing power sounds like absolute CRAP!!!! GET A GRIP!! GET WITH IT! Make it useful, or don't do it at all :P Hell the reberbs in the Buzz program sound much better than yours - perhaps it's because it's all in C??? U guys write in C or what? I am not a programmer - but I hear it's the best. I suspect your Reaper is in XML, like Winamp? U know - so U can do lots of skinnable nonsense. I did some math & looks like the thing takes about 38mhz per track - at least, that is the math I'm getting, even after stripping out all the bullshit meters. How come U can do full NTSC TV editing PLUS 2 track audio on my old 66mhz machine, & U guys can't even get 2 tracks of audio onto the same machine?

People shouldn't have 2 buy an effin' supercomputer 2 get a nice reverb. All 'puter verbs I've heard 2 date sound like crap. If U would like, let me know & I can send U some nice hardware verbs U can try & emulate :) They really do sound better than the others. Did U know that every Enya record uses the Alesis Midiverb II? Sure, it only has 2 good settings, but those R the 1s on the CDs! HAHA

L8R ~!~

Jae.Thomas

12-23-2006, 12:44 AM

ultragod, is this a joke?

If not, please tell me your real name so i can write it down in order to let my possible future generations prevent mixing in with your DNA.

Ultragod

12-23-2006, 12:49 AM

Just wanted 2 point out especially 1 of the things I mentioned - the 'square pan' feature - where volume & pan can B controled simultaneously by clicking something & moving a point within a grid, is included in this freebie program...

http://www.buzzle.de/dl/BUZZle_R76_deskCap.avi

My jaw dropped I was all 'YEA! :D' - now that's what I'm talkin' about!

Unfortunately, haven't figured out how 2 do multitrack recording with the sucker. Just started fiddling with it today. It's not as intuitive as Reaper, but damn U can sure do a lot of simultaneous effects, & they sound NICE!

Hey U know another interesting thing - that 'THX' format - ahve U heard of Gier Tjelta? He makes these really cool songs with this software - very gutsy kind of sounds they get out of this little emulator. I hear it's supposed 2 B something from the wayback machine, but just because something is old doesn't make it bad. I think a lot of the analog stuff sounds better - I mean, analog synths, instead of the smoothed-over glassy type sounds common in later synths.

I should upload that 'THX player' so U guys can have some idea WTF I'm talking about LOL :))

I'm not into synths tho - looking 4 a tracker, & would B nice if had good verbs & dynamics processors on it. All the dynamics processors I've tried on puters suck compared 2 tubes, but hey I'm open 2 new things! Like computer reverb - would B nice if somebody wrote 1 that sounds good, but none of them do! I've heard more natural 'reverb' on the Buzz & THX! & the THX isn't even technically reverb - they get guitar sounds - incredible. Yea I should upload that. I will post when I do.

Jae.Thomas

12-23-2006, 12:52 AM

Jae.Thomas

12-23-2006, 12:54 AM

Ultragod

12-23-2006, 12:54 AM

ultragod, is this a joke?

If not, please tell me your real name so i can write it down in order to let my possible future generations prevent mixing in with your DNA.

Jason, take your silly nose & go buy a new '64 bit vista' system. Never mind an old piece of junk with 95 on it will B 6X faster, & cost U nothing (people give them away). Enjoy your 64 bit 'nobody even writes N E stuff 4 it yet but U simply must have it' system :))

U worms crack me up - I mean, it's funny - like watching a junkie take a fix. U & your excuses 2 bloat your machines into molasses. "Oooh I want knurling on my" 'virtual mixer sliders' - IT'S AN EFFIN' COMPUTER U MORONS!!!! There R no sliders - it's pixels on a screen! Just make it quick & easy - a lil' vertical line is just fine - hello Buzz! :D

Jae.Thomas

12-23-2006, 12:57 AM

first and last name please? any ancestry would help.

Alistair S

12-23-2006, 05:55 AM

Ultragod,

Some of us on here are getting on in years and it is very kind of you to remind us of the good old days. Well, to tell you the truth, the good old days were before I ever saw a computer - but you know what I mean.

These days I find I have to pick and choose what I have to worry about. There is, after all, so much to choose from and I sometimes forget stuff (which is worrying in itself).

I have to admit that the price of a PC or whatever is not something that has made it onto my priority list as yet.

After all, even a super-duper one with "go-faster" stripes down the side still costs less than a decent instrument. I know, I know, musical instruments are bloated crap and really I should just stretch a piece of string across an oil drum but I guess I am just wasteful. What a fool I am.

<<Edited in the spirit of the season>>

Yours sincerely,

Grandad

synth

01-11-2007, 05:34 PM

Now that's what I call entertainment! :) LOL!
Is this 'The return of Babya: The jaded 13-year old on crack strikes back starring Ultragod' ?
Episode I: Sendme A Roasted Chicken And Some Marmite

Ultragod,here's some good news for you - I've managed to get REAPER running on a *pure* Win95 before.It ran pretty well on my old Celeron 333 with 128MB of RAM,as you can see from the screenshot.It was taken from a much older version of REAPER (when it was still freeware/ beta) and the UI looks really sweet (Win95 look all the way - Windows sliders,retro buttons,no bloat).I just forgot to disable the waveform display.The fader artwork can also be disabled so you get all sliders to look like those two in the lower right corner of the TCP.Check out those nice windows zoom sliders.

[EDIT] Here it is:
http://www.stashbox.org/uploads/1148523807/reaper_on_win95.png

Do you see the version of REAPER displayed on the titlebar?
Brings back memories of the good old beta days.

Youn

01-12-2007, 07:14 PM

ultragod, I feel you, deeply...

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let's make children

synth

01-12-2007, 09:13 PM

ultragod, I feel you, deeply...

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let's make children

LOL! @ Youn
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Looks like Youn is a herm

roman

01-13-2007, 05:23 AM

smasha

01-13-2007, 08:35 PM

first and last name please? any ancestry would help.

ROFL.

I want to know too-except I'm safe in Australia-I think?

General Contact Unit

02-01-2007, 09:21 PM

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ultragod - What do you want to optimize today?

timthetortoise

02-02-2007, 01:31 PM

Wow... Ultragod, I hope you're kidding. Since you're the guru on DAW optimization, I trust that you know about Linux DAW systems, and that you can do tracking from command-line. Because that'd be much more intuitive and save so much memory compared to having a GUI running, right?
I've been using XP for my DAW system for about 3 years now, without a crash. Guess how much memory XP is using without my DAW software running. 256? 128? Nope, around 64 megs. With my software running, 69. Know why? I take the time to learn about an OS before passing it off as "bloated." Services that aren't needed are able to be turned off, just like in any good operating system! Can't do that in Windows 95? Aw, too bad. Thinking about it now, I could probably get it down to around 40 megs, but I really like having cluster capabilities.
Wanna know why Yahoo! could run on systems like that? Massive amounts of RAM, bud. In terms of web serving, CPU power really doesn't mean much, the amount of people you can serve at once is nearly directly converse to the amount of RAM you have. Think before you type!
In the end, I'd rather have the option of using stable ASIO, being able to record 120+ tracks, and having some semblance of support for my OS/system in general in case something goes wrong than being smug with a "less-is-more-but-not-really" setup.

3mph

02-14-2007, 02:40 PM

http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=plugin1

I watched the whole thing with my jaw wide open. Gotta be the most intuitive, efficient, user friendly, fun and musical GUI I ever laid my eyes on. Almost made me want to buy, even thought I'm not a singer and have relatively not much use for it.

..and that's exactly why I use Melodyne - I can't sing :-) The VST-version works like a charm, and now you can get decent backingvocals in half an hour with two or three recordings. It feels like editing vocals on the fly!

Why not just accept that Ultragod have a different habitus than all you poeple flaming him..? We are in need of looooove generally!

nprime

02-14-2007, 07:55 PM

I have to assume that Ultragod exists on a different time/space plane from the rest of us. Clearly he needs things to be much quicker than the rest of us do...I'm trying to imagine the last time I went "Damn...it took waaaay too many milliseconds for that to happen!).

What's the hurry, Bub?

polar69

02-15-2007, 02:43 PM

Was I the only person who found it amusing that "UltraGods" forum ranking was "mortal"

.....no ?

Jae.Thomas

02-15-2007, 02:52 PM

Was I the only person who found it amusing that "UltraGods" forum ranking was "mortal"

.....no ?

a mystery of life no doubt ;)

scottdru

02-16-2007, 02:29 AM

http://www.dontfeedthetroll.de/images/dftt.gif

Count Bassie

02-26-2007, 12:47 PM

actually, an X-Y type of panning/volume thing is cool -- even though i wouldnt know how it would be implemented without taking up alot of space --

and there was a DAW software out a year or so ago i remember, (no staff notation there either ;) ) that had an entire field to mix in. The tracks were represented by colours and you move them around on a 3D grid that had pan and volume controls -- and the frequency content made them higher or lower... really cool actually.

The whole GUI thing is likely to be the next big move in this whole DAW trip. And conservation of resources should definitely be a focus! Simple is good, as long as it can also be inspiring to look at, I'd say.

It's interesting, Ultra, what you can do with necessity. But the hassle of digging up all that old hardware/OS, the lack of support for it, and the fact that people like looking at a pleasant interface pulls most of us out of your track.

Some of us have other lives as well. Let's think about 'sensible' as having a more holistic meaning.

If anyone can, I appreciate your angle. But many of us won't necessarily dig into your particular preferences. Not because we're "consumers", but because we can do what we want to right now. But- if you have an idea, or a better way to get kick-ass reverb (without converting/re-converting DA/AD, etc.), produce it!

Much of what you say is quite sensible. Some of it... is less so, I think. Nonetheless, if you can start a revolution, start one! Keep at it- but you'll have to take your brambles in the face with a measure of grace as you go. Seems like you are, except for those 'retard' remarks...

cAPSLOCK

06-03-2007, 09:02 PM

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ultragod - What do you want to optimize today?

I am sorry to resurrect this idiotic thread. But THAT is one of the best posts ever - anytime - anywhere.

I was going to say something but THAT is better than ANYTHING I could ever write.

Tallisman

06-04-2007, 10:17 PM

White Tie

06-05-2007, 06:50 AM

Enters thread...

grins

...leaves thread

caleb82

07-01-2007, 07:23 PM

oh my ultragod...

i don't get your d*rn problem? going by your faible for trashy, outdated equipment and the trash that comes thru your fingers, you're the kinda guy that wouldn't pay a cent, even if he used reaper every day and night. right?
so i think you should just shut up, use what reaper offers and be grateful that it doesn't cost you a friggin cent - or go and try finding another program that fits your needs and desires better.

there's always the possibility to post requests and suggestions in the feature request forum, but i don't get the impression your tone would get you very far.

peace...

General Contact Unit

08-04-2007, 03:55 AM

I am sorry to resurrect this idiotic thread. But THAT is one of the best posts ever - anytime - anywhere.

I was going to say something but THAT is better than ANYTHING I could ever write.

Accolade accepted.

Alex Stone

08-04-2007, 04:47 AM

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ultragod - What do you want to optimize today?

Priceless.

We are trooly knot WeRtHeE......

Alex Stone

08-04-2007, 04:52 AM

first and last name please? any ancestry would help.

You might want to keep the cat inside for a few nights as well J,

Just in case..........:)

StudioDave

08-11-2007, 05:43 AM

Ultragod,

Perhaps you should look at ecasound :

http://www.eca.cx/ecasound/

I'm not sure if it runs on Windows, its development platform is Linux.

Ecasound is an honest-to-goodness powerful multitrack audio recorder/processor written strictly for the command-line. It's best used in scripts (in an easily-learned syntax).

Ecasound is not a joke or a toy, it has a lot of power under its hood. GUIs are available for it, but I find it best-used in its original text-based form.

Me, I like the GUIs in Ardour2, Reaper, JAMin, etc., but when someone voices a lament like yours I always recommend ecasound.

antiClick

08-11-2007, 06:31 AM

Hi Ultragod!
First of all, I think most of your comments are crap :) .... are you this? www.ultragod.com

There are too many things you don't undestand for me trying to illuminate you (grammar would be on of them) :p:p:)

But thanks for posting your tips about windows page file performance. I'll have to try it, it seems a very clever approach.

Another thing that speeds things up a lot is making a fixed swap file size (less fragmentation). Further speed by moving the program U will B using 2 RAM in a 'ramdrive' (there is a free French program that makes them up 2 2GB, bigger paid versions available). Running a program from ramdrive makes it about instantaneous. Make sure the cache points 2 the RAMDRIVE as well. If U got enough RAM, put the Windoze swap file on it as well (Windows native memory management is really bad). Also, make sure U have enough RAM so U don't have 2 constantly reload DLLs - stuff like 'Rambooster' just unloads DLLs, which then must B reloaded next time U use that 'window' that pulled them up in the first place, etc. I suggest at least 750mb 4 an editing machine - really makes a big difference. About 300MB will quickly fill with DLLs & shit, & make ya'self a nice 150mb swapfile there also. That leaves about 300mb 4 your 'workspace'. If U R editing full movies & stuff, better 2 get a commercial RAMDRIVE program & run a few more gigs. It's great because when U R cutting & pasting & whatever, nothing will slow it down - whereas drives need 2 seek.

Hope it's ok with the following...

My request is this - how do I ELIMINATE:

Waveform display (solid bar 2 denote length of sections is fine by me!)

Preferences>Appearence>Media

3D Icons (nice 'Winblows 95' standard modified is my fave. I simply changed some of the colors (darker grey, green highlight 4 selected stuff, etc.) - my point - a simple 'retro 95' fast icon set is good. WHere can I get?

Maybe this is ok with you
http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?p=98977

reapercurious

08-15-2007, 07:21 PM

whoops, wrong thread...

actually it was the right thread. got confused when scrolling up and not seeing ultragod.

reapercurious

08-15-2007, 07:23 PM

http://www.renoise.com/about/screenshots/

the program that you spoke of before is called a 'list editor' and you need to stop wasting your time on the reaperites and go to Renoise. that is the program for you.

thank me later,

the grid and loop section person and lover of waveforms,
formerly, reapercurious

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ5jTaXywuM

alex zonder

08-15-2007, 07:53 PM

you need to stop wasting your time on the reaperites and go to Renoise.

After you.

reapercurious

08-17-2007, 09:24 AM

that's okay, alex. i prefer the waveforms the grids and the loop sections as found in acid and reaper.

i've stopped making any cases with the reaperites.

there's some saying about doing the same thing, expecting different results, etc...

Tallisman

08-17-2007, 10:16 AM

JJJ

08-17-2007, 11:20 AM

How does a "God" become an "UltraGod" ?

Do you have to take a class...or something???

JJJ

Diogenes

08-17-2007, 01:22 PM

How does a "God" become an "UltraGod" ?

Do you have to take a class...or something???

JJJ

Nah... you just go to the tee-shirt shop and have it airbrushed on the back. (or front or...) :D

D

happymonkey

08-17-2007, 04:47 PM

How does a "God" become an "UltraGod" ?

Do you have to take a class...or something???

JJJ

I believe there is a certain amount of smiting involved. Then you get this shirt:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/gaming/7215/

Then you can call yourself an "ultragod"

I wonder if he has business cards reflecting his esteemed title?

:)

hm

JJJ

08-17-2007, 07:04 PM

I think you're both right, and I heard the UltraGod initiation ritual requires that you drink a large (well...ultra) glass of
I'mQuiteFullofMyselfThankYouVeryMuch juice.

Bottoms Up!!!

JJJ

reapercurious

08-19-2007, 12:20 AM

i wish there was an icon readily available for 'rolls eyes at all the eyeball rolling around here.'

its crazy how so many at this forum seem to tolerate each other, but every once in awhile, everyone gangs up on some poor random tosser who acts like an individual. ...cant ignore the person, must poke and ping. must come up with more clever whallops to 'punch' the little brother or sister. that's right, attack the person, not the message.

if you're big enough to look down on others, why cant you resist batting around whom you interpet to be lesser animals?

because you are cruel.

you don't have to pass on the cycle of abuse. let it go.

if my reply does not apply, click the back button and forget about it, its not about you.

but to those that cannot resist, its because you're cruel and stupid.

JJJ

08-19-2007, 02:03 AM

earlabs

08-19-2007, 04:48 AM

its crazy how so many at this forum seem to tolerate each other, but every once in awhile, everyone gangs up on some poor random tosser who acts like an individual. ...cant ignore the person, must poke and ping. must come up with more clever whallops to 'punch' the little brother or sister. that's right, attack the person, not the message.

.....

you don't have to pass on the cycle of abuse. let it go.

I sort of agree, curious. Replying should stick to the subject and not to the person behind it. However, I think a lot of us don't really understand what Ultragod is trying to achieve here. And his verbalisation leeds doubtlessly to antagonism. Ultragod too, goes for the personal attack. I personally would choose not to react at all, other than : "what's your point?".

reapercurious

08-19-2007, 07:45 PM

ultragod seems long-gone.

hopefully, he (she or it) found renoise.

what we have here is a page and a half of reaper forum plooking (see Joe's Garage by FZ.) More like necrophilia. I'm guilty too, as of my last post. that was when i learned ultragod stopped replying to this thread (and maybe at this forum altogether.)

i understood ultragod, but ultragod got a little slap happy. I just wish my advice (regarding renoise/list editors) could have gotten to him before the cycle got too out of control.

faeded

10-28-2007, 11:17 PM

faeded

10-28-2007, 11:18 PM

renoise and reaper is pure heaven, hopefully renoise will incorp rewiwre soon

maybe ill try to make it when i find the time

steadyrev

10-29-2007, 10:46 PM

Perhaps most found Ultragod interesting or maybe disturbing. He certainly had no intention of being politically correct. He may in fact have intended to shock and intimidate.

Given the genuinely helpful climate of these forums, it was unnecessary for him to be rude and abusive: he was that!

He could have sought help and advice in as dignified a manner as others have and there would have been no need for sarcasm in reply to him.

More than a few members sought to gauge the tone of his arguments
and couldn't figure out if he was for real. That counts for something!

I wish to point out the length of his arguments [more accurately,rants] and the fact that he followed himself more than once. He spoke to himself more, perhaps, than he spoke to the forum.

Names are important windows of insight into personality, and the choice of ' Ultragod ' speaks a lot about the need for control and the aggresive authority asserted here. it speaks too, to the inflexibility displayed in the choice of W95. We are to rewrite the programme to suit his choice of an old and unsupported system.

Simply, something is not quite right there. As one who counsels persons frequently I am reasonably confident in saying that.

We do not always have to be silent in the face of this type of behaviour. Those who advocate 'let sleeping dogs lie'
inherit fleas and dog poo [LOL] got to shoo them sometimes!

Tonehenge

10-29-2007, 11:17 PM

ULTRAGOOF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 03:43 PM

U wrote:

"[EDIT] Here it is:
http://www.stashbox.org/uploads/1148523807/reaper_on_win95.png

Do you see the version of REAPER displayed on the titlebar?
Brings back memories of the good old beta days.[/QUOTE]"

There sliders R bloatware - fades requrie needless CPU cycles 2 post! So do the retarded extra outlines. When I say streamlined, I'm talkin' Mplayer2 style - Winblow$ '95 conventions. Yes I have tried lots of OSes, & '95 is the fastest of 'em all (except if U wanna' go 2 TRON or microkernel thingys - which only run proprietary goo).

I have my XP all '95-ified' :D No animation Bullsh*t or 'glass' graphics-hog crapola.

I DO NOT NEED OR WANT WAVEFORM DISPLAY OR PICTURE KNOBS! I WANT SIMPLE SLIDERS & STUFF! ;( WTF if Jeskola Buzz only did multitrack redording (boo hoo).

The things I really like about Reaper R as follows:
1) Excellent sound quality
2) Good compressor (since they fixed it)
3) Lets U route effects in N E order (as per my suggestion based on Jacklab???)

Problemos...

- No simple surround mixing interface
- No integration with FFDSHOW (the best video plugin by the way :)
- EXTREMELY CPU hoggy - how come I can edit over 20 tracks on a 40Mhz (not 400, just FOURTY) machine runnin' '95 & some crapware relic recording goodies, but Reaper on a 2Ghz slugs along just 2 cover a few tracks? This is retarded.

Here is a good test - use Mplayer2, & open as many simulteneous MP3 &/or WAV files as U can until something starts dropping out. That should B the maximum number of tracks in ANY audio editor, 'cuz Mplayer2 has no bloat! :D

Well bla bla - maybe Reaper will add 2 their nice compressor a USABLE reverb - something like the 'Waves' plugin, or a Sony TAE1000ESD preamp (Reaper guys, if U want me 2 send U 1 of those 4 evaluation, lemme' know - nice piece-O-hardware).

bla bla - Reaper could learn a lot from Jeskola Buzz - lil C++ whatever MIDI thingy (I don't care about MIDI) that has AWESOME USABLE reverb, that takes NO CPU! U can also write your own 'buzz machine' modules - but I'm no programmer ~:P

They do have a gr8 interface idea where U simply click a track & can drag a graphical volume (automated volume), and also pan/volume are integrated into a single square grid. The same could work for surround - like a virtual little room, & U drag the sound around. Because there R more than 2 speakers, volume could B simultaneously handled with the up/down arrows while moving the mouse =)

Reaper is a very good program, but it is still somewhat cumbersome & stuck in that 'trying 2 act like a hardware mixer' mode, & it's very CPU-wasting :( This is surprising, seeing as Vegas is hugely bloated on the software side, but very efficient with CPU! wierd

What can I say - still usin' Vegas & Acid - fun & fast. Man Vegas sure sounds like crap compared 2 Reaper tho - Reaper is much more smooooooth. Oh well - nothing's perfect =:P

L8R ~!~

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 03:45 PM

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 03:47 PM

renoise and reaper is pure heaven, hopefully renoise will incorp rewiwre soon

I have no interest in soft synths. I use a (typing) keyboard as sample trigger though - 2 play drums :D HAHA drummers I kick your ass typing LOL

Um, yea' Renoise is NOT a multi-track editor/recorder. It is a 'midi' type SYNTH thing! Like Buzz :(

Damnit I'm not here 2 make disco!

OMG there should B a law - no 'four on the floor' - what a waste of electricity LOL

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 04:02 PM

Replying should stick to the subject and not to the person behind it.

Basically, people R scum - lotta' jackasses here 4 instance with no ideas & not solution oriented, so they just attack each other like peacocks fighting 4 females. I got news 4 U, I DON'T CARE WHAT U THINK OF ME, I'M HERE 2 HELP IMPROVE THE PROGRAM =D

So I'm rude/direct - I like 2 B honest - cuts through the crapola. Grow up.

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 04:11 PM

Dude... spend 500 on a new pc and save valuable lifetime. This is just pathetic.
And if you really want efficiency... win95? Learn to build your own kernel, you wuss. If you want to be the über-geek, get it right.

Here's a tip - if U run STREAMLINED software, & configure your OS well, U don't NEED 2 WASTE your $$$ on a 'fancy' PC. They become commodities. Until flash came out, I was just happy as a clam with my 400Mhz. Hell, I could play DVDs on 200! 400 was good 4 downloaded movies tho' - plays 'em all (pretty much). U know, like MP3 4 DVD :D

N E way, since it's kind of a drag 2 have 2 DL a Youtube or Google vid & then play it back in FFDSHOW 2 get some EFFICIENCY (instead of the PATHETIC 'official' flash plugins 4 browsers) I broke down & decided to USE 1 of the many 'donation' PCs that come my way - nice lil' HP 2Ghz did the trick - with room 2 spare. I will probably B running that another 10 years... haven't tried HDTV on it but sure it will do.

Sure I could waste $6k on an 8 core Mac whatever with BSD on it (OSX is BSD) - so what? I like stuff that can run on FREE equipment, such as FREE laptops! :D

It's HILLARIOUS 2 me - people talking like pentium is 'worthless'. & what, back when Pentium was 'latest greatest' people couldn't do N E thing? Hell Yahoo up until just a few years ago ran their entire site on just 5 PCs with BSD, all of them between 100 & 200Mhz - not Ghz, Mhz! Meanwhile they get zillions in traffic, zillions in stock $$ - now that 2 me is just HILLARIOUS! :) If ppl had N E idea - just a tiny pile of 'junk' PCs - hahahaha

There is 'bling' & there is 'tool'. I am into tools - do the job. I'm not about animation, waste, bling, status symbol PC, etc. If U want 2 attract chix, I have a suggestion - STOP EATING CRAP & get ya'self a hot bod. Start by eliminating ALL chemicals in, on, or near your body. Hell I should put a site up about this - start by drinking only distilled water (it's lean). We R over 70% water yaknow. Hell I'm so hot chix take ME out :D "Yea' there's your 'liberation' baby - U pay... now bend over HAHA

Put ya'self in a woman's positon - would U rather have a hot guy with brains & can get U off like crazy, or the joy of riding around in some dead object with a fat ugly dork (as in, typical American)?

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 04:18 PM

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a, n, y

ultragod - What do you want to optimize today?

HAHAHA - true, it's wasteful. I just find it clever, like 'M8' instead of 'mate', or 'WinHo$e' instead of 'Windows' :)

@ least I don't cap every OTHER letter & mix it with INCOMPREHENSIBLE sh*t like those ebonics fReAk$ - now that's just annoying ~;P

Diogenes

11-01-2007, 04:20 PM

Did U actually try running the various Reaper effects with '95 shell? It crashes! :( Fuk they should just tell people 'Reaper is 4 XP ONLY!' - because that it is. Don't waste people's time pretending it runs on somethin' it don't.

Yo' UltraGOOB... FYI

Minimum system: 500mhz processor, Windows 98/ME/2000/XP/Vista with 128MB RAM, 10MB free disk space, 800x600 in 256 colors or higher, Windows compatible sound hardware

Tell you what I'll do, I'll ship you a state of the art Intel Quad and you can show us "morons" how to optimize it to run 1000 tracks while we watch a DVD and play Quake III all at the same time OK?

Geez man... get a grip...

D

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 04:22 PM

Surely it'd be better if DAWs didn't show any graphics at all, and just displayed everything as raw binary? I'm informed everything would run a lot quicker that way.

I would like if there even EXISTED a multi-track recording program that worked like Buzz or 1 of those - with simple text markers as placeholders - like a HARDWARE multitrack in spead & ease of use. U know, something 4 TRACKING!!!!! =:P Just 'blip blip' line of '*' characters or something 2 designate tracks, & can cut them up or zoom, & grid res changes. Most of what U need in editing does NOT require a 'pictoral' interface. A 'database' type list is just dandy thank U. I can only imagine how easy that would B on CPU! & it saves all of it 4 the important 'interpolation' stuff of panning & mixing instead of WASTING it on silly 'pretty' graphics.

Hell if I want pretty, I'll stare at a hot chix' ass =) Get withit guys! It's a MACHINE!! It's a TOOL!!

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 04:26 PM

you can disable waveform and you can use "old school" icon theme which should work for windows 95

try it

I did try it - keeps 'defaulting' 2 waveform display, I sticking this retarded 'no waveform' text in there - like it's 'missing' something 'important'. NO IT ISN'T!

& no I don't wanna' have 2 keep trying 2 pre-empt the 'automatic' 'generating waveforms' BULLSH*T that occurs whenever U change projects or open the damn thing... Y I am still usin' Vegas HAHA

Oh well

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 04:30 PM

OMG SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME ON THIS!!!! I've argued this method with people for years it seems. Do away with graphics as much as possible, even values are often used to determine audio settings... WTF!? Even if you force yourself not to look, I can't help but see that Kick Drum is at 0.13dB and I want to nudge it to 0.00dB so it can look "neat" - damn ME!!! I'm so pathetic, why can't I use my ears... DAMN THIS VISUAL WORLD WE LIVE IN!!!

Reaper did add a 'exploded' view when U clock on volumes & faders n' things now, but it's still pretty retarded - opens way 2 the lower right or something. It should open CENTERED on the mouse cursor! :( Goddamnit - am I the only person in this world with common sense??? The world is so full of half-assedness. Do it right. Make it pop up a neat lil' square - 1 axis is pan, the other is volume. If it's surroundy mixin', make the square the 'room' where the channels can B laid out as dots 'virtual speakers', & the pan would B controled by the mouse there, while volume is controled by the up/down arrow on the keyboard - SO SIMPLE!!!!! yeesh - & takes INFINITELY less screen real estate ~:D

Ultragod

11-01-2007, 04:33 PM

Yo' UltraGOOB... FYI

Tell you what I'll do, I'll ship you a state of the art Intel Quad and you can show us "morons" how to optimize it to run 1000 tracks while we watch a DVD and play Quake III all at the same time OK?

Geez man... get a grip...

D

I market speakers & servers. The servers run 12TB each running Win'95 on 400Mhz pentium 'garbage', yet it's faster than modern machines precisely BECAUSE it's runnin' the old 'obsolete' (minamilist) OS. Micro$cam says this is impossible, so I offered 2 send them a machine :) They of course refused - 'cuz they know it's a scam (Microsoft artificially cripples their stuff more & more with each new release, ON PURPOSE). Granted, I combine some tweaky stuff 2 make it even SEE all that space, & 3'rd party aps - all freebies. Just takes a DESIRE 2 STREAMLINE, rather than WASTE. The cheaper the cost, the higher the profit = more 4 me! My customers are RESULT oriented. I do not sell 'bling'. I sell performance - the result.

How many quad laptops R there? Don't U prefer the idea of running all the stuff U need on a FREE & DISPOSABLE commodity laptop, rather than wasting your $ on hardware? That is $ U can spend buying gals things so they bang U more. B smart dood.

By all means, if U wanna' send me a free quad PC, I will B happy 2 accept it =) I will optimize it, then SELL the damn thing, 'cuz I don't NEED it.

White Tie

11-01-2007, 05:21 PM

WASTING it on silly 'pretty' graphics.

I'm just quoting this to remind myself where and when it was that I realised I'd wasted my life. Everything I've ever done has been silly. If only I'd found out sooner....

matt avery

11-01-2007, 06:49 PM

Diogenes

11-01-2007, 07:36 PM

OOOOOKKKAAAYYY... ;)

Speakers and servers... The servers run Win 95. Right. I'll have my IT guys machine call your machine. Number and area code please. You MUST have a souped up terabit per second analog modem right? Does Win 95 support terabit per second analog modems? We can't be using that darn slow-butt, pokey T1 now can we?

D

(D@#N! I bit again... sometimes I hate myself...)

EDIT: The guy can't type out full words and when he does they are mis-spelled. I'm supposed to believe this dude hacked Win 95 to be a server OS that can host 12TB of storage running on a 400mhz Pentium! WOW! He MUST BE UltraGOD! PM me an address and phone number dude. We have a closet full of 12TB, Win 95 "Servers" at work. We'll pay you a nice consulting fee...

(^%$#$ &^%%$#% I BIT AGAIN x 2!! ARRRRRGGGGHHH!!!!)

spikemullings

11-02-2007, 02:22 AM

[stares at thread]

IT'S ALIVE !!!!!

RUN !!!!!

happymonkey

11-02-2007, 08:48 AM

[stares at thread]

IT'S ALIVE !!!!!

RUN !!!!!

I know, what's the deal with this thread??? Why do people keep entertaining nano-god and his rants?

Poor White Tie is questioning his existence and Diogenes is ready to ship him servers to build a supercomputer. Hey D, if he's really a god of some sort, what does he need computers for anyway???

In the words of the equally annoying Susan Powter - "Stop the insanity!!!"

:)

hm

Diogenes

11-02-2007, 09:38 AM

Sorry guys... *hangs head in shame*

I was in a really weird mood yesterday evening... put the sea bass away. I'll be good!

D

NCNDude

11-02-2007, 02:02 PM

VSpaceBoy

11-02-2007, 06:52 PM

Sorry guys... *hangs head in shame*

I was in a really weird mood yesterday evening... put the sea bass away. I'll be good!

D

lol.. was that a Dumb and Dumber metaphor? rok!

This thread is actually an entertaining read. Ultragod is clearly a troll, but he actually reads and responds to every post.

So Ultragod, whats the real deal anyhow? (assuming there really is one and this just isn't all just a full on troll for fun) Can you really not afford a faster pc? Do you really think that all the neat GUI's look THAT bad? What is your home like? No decorations or coordinated furniture? Just mattress, stove, and toilet? Do you have a car? Does the soft fabric adn paint job keep you getting from point A to point B?

If you are REALLY as you appear in this thread, you should think about ditching Windows. (which is Microsofts GUI version of DOS) The more and more you talk about stripping down graphically pleasing programs to run on a graphic driven program (Windows) when you easily have an option to run on something else makes you look a little foolish.

Bubbagump

11-03-2007, 01:34 PM

Diogenes

11-03-2007, 01:58 PM

Should be no problem Bubba. I keep a Neumann U87 in my jacket pocket all the time. When inspiration strikes I just plug it into my Mercenary Audio modified CASIO Calculator watch and track away. 64 bit 384khz recording right there on my wrist. Powered by a solar cell surgically implanted on my skull. (Gotta take the propeller beanie off if wanna record.) It sounds wonderful too. Except for the singing part...

D

Ultragod

11-04-2007, 06:33 PM

He doesn't want REAPER. He wants RADAR me thinks... Sounds more his speed. Mmmmm, cryptic operation. Personally, I want an all CLI DAW to run on my TI-85 that I modded to run with my Power Glove. Wonder if I can get it to run OS/2? :)

Hmmm, RADAR??? I should look into this ? Doesn't RADAR have that useless waveform display crap like every other DAW these days? I used 2 have a rack of ADATs & I am seriously thinking of going back. U hit play or record & it starts up immediately - regardless if the session is an hour long or whatnot - no time wasted waiting a year 4 crap 2 initiate & draw, or having 2 constantly pre-empt the 'NO I DON'T FUKING WANT WAVEFORMS NOW EITHER I DID NOT CHANGE MY MIND' default preemption :P

What I really want is something like Buzz, but with 3'rd party plugin routing matrix & multitrack RECORDING (not just synth) :) In assembly preferably - so takes what - half a meg? HAHAHA

By the way, the reverb in Buzz is really good. Reaper should steal it.

Ultragod

11-04-2007, 06:43 PM

"This thread is actually an entertaining read. Ultragod is clearly a troll,"

U know I am not, but claim such because YOU are a troll, here 2 peddle your ad-homonym crap against CONSTRUCTIVE (tho' blunt) folx like me :)

"but he actually reads and responds to every post.
So Ultragod, whats the real deal anyhow?"

I am honest. 2 bad U R 2 weak 2 handle it ;D

"(assuming there really is one and this just isn't all just a full on troll for fun) Can you really not afford a faster pc?"

Efficiency is the issue. I already explained the advantages of saving money rather than wasting it. Now B a good boy & go blow your wad on $15,000 chrome rims hoping 2 attract more crotch HAHAHA How many whore sessions could U rent 4 same?

"Do you really think that all the neat GUI's look THAT bad?"

I don't think N E of them look 'bad'. I simply do not care. It is a TOOL & I do not need stupid retarded time-&-resource-hogging baby waveform view. It's USELESS. I edit BY EAR!

"What is your home like? No decorations or coordinated furniture?"

Irrelevant red herring question.

"Just mattress, stove, and toilet?"

Straw man attack (more fallacies from the troll - YOU)

"Do you have a car? Does the soft fabric adn paint job keep you getting from point A to point B?"

False analogy

"If you are REALLY as you appear in this thread, you should think about ditching Windows. (which is Microsofts GUI version of DOS) The more and more you talk about stripping down graphically pleasing programs to run on a graphic driven program (Windows) when you easily have an option to run on something else makes you look a little foolish."

Now U R using slippery slope fallacy (form of equivocation). Wanting 2 eliminate wasteful bullsh*t like waveform view without having it always try 2 snap back on U & stupid pictoral knobs & cartoony crap does not mean I want arcane command line B.S.

Like I said - people R scum. Rather than discuss ways 2 IMPROVE THE VALUE 4 EVERYBODY by stripping the nonsense from an otherwise good program, & adding a few simple useful things (like grid pan/balance type mixing) U attack the messenger. U R so fukin' retarded.

Ultragod

11-04-2007, 06:47 PM

This whole thing made me throw up in my mouth [a little] reading it. I want a refund on that ten minutes of my life.

Perhaps a more conducive interface would be a small USB hookup that would supply your nads with an electric shock when it was time to punch in on a track. See? No graphics required.

Damn, I fed the troll. Back to the occasional hell...

Your hypocrisy is fascinating. Here I am creating a thread that pushes streamlining, & your signature line agrees, yet U ruin it by contradicting yourself. R U even aware what your signature says? FUNNY! =)

What's wrong - afraid if U agree with good advice your balls will shrink or something? It's a program U jackass - a computer tool, not the tool between your legs. Don't get so attached.

Ultragod

11-04-2007, 06:49 PM

I know, what's the deal with this thread??? Why do people keep entertaining nano-god and his rants?

Poor White Tie is questioning his existence and Diogenes is ready to ship him servers to build a supercomputer. Hey D, if he's really a god of some sort, what does he need computers for anyway???

In the words of the equally annoying Susan Powter - "Stop the insanity!!!"

:)

hm

What does N E of your idiotic ad-homenym nonsense have 2 do with streamlining reaper? Go listen 2 your rap CDs, punk. Come up with some good ideas & post those. Oh wait - U don't have N E - all U can do is troll around attacking people who give good advices on improving the program. So sorry. Maybe I should go buy a quad Xeon 2 check my E-Mail - gotta 'get with the times' & waste as much CPU as possible & throw my $$$ 2 the wind, or I'm not 'dope fresh' ;D

Ultragod

11-04-2007, 06:56 PM

ultragod- what kind of interface do you use? i can't see it being very easy to cost-effectively track 24+ tracks simultaneously on a 40mhz laptop without firewire or usb. and what about live monitoring? i would assume that such a computer would not be able to handle all of this. am i wrong here?

you need good hardware for audio as well...

News flash, U can edit nearly 30 tracks of audio on a 400Mhz, simultaneously. I am still using 'garbage' old software, because it was written 4 when systems were SLOOOOOW - like 386ville :)) I also goof on Vegas & Acid. Reaper sounds good, & has flexible effect routing, & a good compressor & EQ (lately), but it is slow ass. This is odd, considering they R so economical on total program size - hmmm.

I use XP Home 4 trying things out (seems 2 run the most things), & '95 OSR1 4 the systems I sell (faster than UNIX variants, & pretty stable 2 :) Micro$hit began crippling it with the release of IE, & then it was all downhill from there. Even Vista's higher end versions have the 16,000 file transfer limit - starts hanging & stuff, meanwhile '95 does everything immediately - no waiting.

I don't like that the interface has uselsss bordering on the windows. I don't need the frame 2 navigate. I've tried the 'nixes & they R all very feature-limited, & the kernels degrade after installing a bunch of stuff, whereas WinHoze is modular. Each OS has it's advantages & drawbacks. OSX is just BSD with WINE & driver manipulations. I wouldn't B surprised if it grew out of my suggestions, as I had been hounding them about doing this for years :) Being a jackass get's U noticed! @ least they remember your ideas :D

Ultragod

11-04-2007, 07:03 PM

ultragod- what kind of interface do you use?

Jacklab is also cool - grew out of my suggestions also - 2 pair a menu-driven 'nix with 'Jack'. I would send them lots of E-Mails laughing @ how these programmer goofs would B so jerkoff code clique about it:

"Oh just ender '#$/ tlq-w 3@^t_ 9(86)' & you're all set - so simple! :) So obvious - oh & don't forget 2 initiate the Gorfelter sequences & compile your shaky square buffer with the runtime codes from Morganathonic Retrocations web site (no details on how 2 do this of course).

'Nix is all about making the OS so complicated that U have 2 hire a programmer 2 run it. It's a scam - like how Windows is about selling upgrades by crippling the OS - constantly exchanging bugs 4 new. different & 'improved' bugs LOL

NOBODY writes a logical OS except the Japs it seems - like TRON. That crap runs every cell phone, PDA, breaks, airplanes, U name it. Micro$cam paid off the government 2 lock it from the U.S. market.

VSpaceBoy

11-04-2007, 07:04 PM

lol.. If you think this is attacking you I'm not sure what to say. I didn't even call you anything (other than troll I guess but I wouldn't call that an attack IMO)

I don't think my analogies were false. I was just comparing the similarities of keeping a DAW streamlined and configured for only one thing, speed. To me, that WOULD be comparable to decorating a home for comfort while its purpose is a roof over your head etc.

The reason you are being called a troll from me and others is because you are without debate the minority in your thinking.(at least in this thread) If not, you'd have many more people standing right there with ya. Mix your different point of view, with your "directness" and it comes off like your are out to make fun of the majority's point of view. Statements like "You edit with your ears not your eyes" is insulting to the majority who thinks a slick DAW is worth the extra money.

And I guess I am somewhat of a troll, since I didn't really have anything to respond contructively to your post. I guess I was curious more than anything.

PeEce out Yo!

Jae.Thomas

11-04-2007, 08:19 PM

Go listen 2 your rap CDs, punk.

i think thats the last thing a punk would do ;)

gregh

11-04-2007, 08:36 PM

@Ultragod - I do quite a bit of editing where i need to see the waveform - also spectral editing where i need a lot of detail - how would you go about supplying that sort of functionality in an efficient manner. I can write software which will automatically seek out features and process them, but to be honest I'd rather someone else did it and there is an element of serendipity and surprise that comes from visualising the data that is not available from direct code - and vice versa of course.

mysteryman

11-04-2007, 08:46 PM

He doesn't want REAPER. He wants RADAR me thinks... Sounds more his speed. Mmmmm, cryptic operation. :)

Some time ago I did a big review of Radar, I remember thinking this is nice program. But WTF? At that time both Sonar and Nuendo were out and relatively smoking feature-wise. I kept wondering when I was going to find the "magic". Apogee and RME were already bringing the price of decent converters down. Simplicity is as easy as limiting yourself only to those features of Reaper (etc.) that you need/desire. Nothing against Radar and many more like it, But some of those are really nothing more that a nice stripped down DAW with nice converters and limited options. Oh yeah, and they don't boot up with apples or flags. I guess that's the "magic" and you could call it "streamlining" ummm sorta.

Ultragod

11-04-2007, 10:14 PM

lol.. PeEce out Yo!

More ad homonym B.S. from yet another retard with no ideas. NEXT!

@Ultragod - I do quite a bit of editing where i need to see the waveform

Well, I DON'T !!! When I wanna cut, loop, or spice or whatever, I use my EARS & hit the pause key, etc. & if U R off, zoom in & do it some more. Wave display is SUPERFLUOUS! There R a zillion proggies with B.S. waveform bloat. I want ONE that doesn't bother with that pointless crippling nonsense. Does an ADAT have 'waveform display'? How 'bout a big Studer analog? Oh I guess it's 'impossible' 2 make gr8 recordings without your fuking 'waveform view' ... NOT!!!

Grow up. I am not here talking about how 2 BLOAT the program, but how 2 STREAMLINE it. U should maybe start your own thread, call it maybe 'ways 2 slow down Reaper some more :)'

Some time ago I did a big review of Radar, I remember thinking this is nice program. But WTF? At that time both Sonar and Nuendo were out and relatively smoking feature-wise. I kept wondering when I was going to find the "magic". Apogee and RME were already bringing the price of decent converters down.

Appogee & RME converters SUUUUUCCCKKKK!!!! I know. Iused 2 work @ shops where they sold 'em. I was all - I'm not selling THAT piece of crap. I'll sell them something that actually sounds GOOD, like a SONY! Yeesh talk about harsh garbage. U R insane. Jack the price on N E Jap crap chip & pretend it's all 'Euro' & U will pay 10X the $ - funny stuff! :)

Simplicity is as easy as limiting yourself only to those features of Reaper (etc.) that you need/desire.

No, it isn't. U haven't read a fuking word I've said. Reaper LACKS certain features that would further simplify AND increase it's functionality, like grid-based pan/volume control (think tick tack toe). Same 4 surround mixing. Waveform view is NOT defeatable - keeps trying 2 make them. How the fuk do I remove this B.S.?

Also, Reaper is slow ass. Sounds gr8, but moves like molasses - takes about 6X the CPU of an old 'crap' program (track count comparison). Take your pick!

Nothing against Radar and many more like it, But some of those are really nothing more that a nice stripped down DAW with nice converters and limited options. Oh yeah, and they don't boot up with apples or flags. I guess that's the "magic" and you could call it "streamlining" ummm sorta.

Jackass, yes I know 4 instance Mackie is just off-the-shelf software on a PC with a different chassis - yawn.

What does N E of that have 2 do with adding grid-mixing 2 Reaper, or disabling it's waveform view? U just repeat what I ask 4, as if U R offering a solution. U simply repeat my question. What an ass.

Let me repeat some stuff:

1) Reaper would B even more swell if it had grid-style mixing popups :)

2) Reaper would add extra-awesomeness if it had a way 2 DEFAULT 2 NO silly waveform view, & NOT have the retarded 'no data' thing pasted everyplace. I would like a solid bar, or '*' characters or something - simple! :) U know, like a 'DAW' U talk about?

3) Adding a decent CPU-efficient reverb would B groovy - perhaps steal the (very good sounding) module from Jeskola Buzz (reverb Buzz machine), or make 1 based on the Sony TAE1000ESD (nice soundin' flexy verb).

L8R azzholes ~!~

happymonkey

11-04-2007, 11:29 PM

What does N E of your idiotic ad-homenym nonsense have 2 do with streamlining reaper? Go listen 2 your rap CDs, punk. Come up with some good ideas & post those. Oh wait - U don't have N E - all U can do is troll around attacking people who give good advices on improving the program. So sorry. Maybe I should go buy a quad Xeon 2 check my E-Mail - gotta 'get with the times' & waste as much CPU as possible & throw my $$$ 2 the wind, or I'm not 'dope fresh' ;D

Kid, you really crack me up... Rap CD's - that's cute... How little you know about me or anyone else around here.

If you took the time to read my post, you might have noticed that I wasn't talking to you. As such, there was no need for you to comment on it. But you did, which is rude, and that makes you the punk here.

Now go bugger off, learn to spell, and be sure to come back when your voice stops cracking, ok kid?

hm

matt avery

11-05-2007, 04:34 AM

Jacklab is also cool - grew out of my suggestions also - 2 pair a menu-driven 'nix with 'Jack'. I would send them lots of E-Mails laughing @ how these programmer goofs would B so jerkoff code clique about it:

"Oh just ender '#$/ tlq-w 3@^t_ 9(86)' & you're all set - so simple! :) So obvious - oh & don't forget 2 initiate the Gorfelter sequences & compile your shaky square buffer with the runtime codes from Morganathonic Retrocations web site (no details on how 2 do this of course).

'Nix is all about making the OS so complicated that U have 2 hire a programmer 2 run it. It's a scam - like how Windows is about selling upgrades by crippling the OS - constantly exchanging bugs 4 new. different & 'improved' bugs LOL

NOBODY writes a logical OS except the Japs it seems - like TRON. That crap runs every cell phone, PDA, breaks, airplanes, U name it. Micro$cam paid off the government 2 lock it from the U.S. market.

i was meaning to ask what kind of hardware you use. you know, ada converter?

happymonkey

11-05-2007, 08:39 AM

... NOBODY writes a logical OS except the Japs it seems - like TRON. That crap runs every cell phone, PDA, breaks, airplanes, U name it...

Just to enlighten you (and anyone else still reading this inane thread), TRON is in fact NOT an operating system at all, although I'm sure you will be quick to tell me you've found a way to use it as such...

An explanation of TRON can be found here...

http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Realtime/TRON/desc.html

... an excerpt from this link is as follows:

"Much like POSIX, TRON is not a body of computer code that is compiled and run on a processor. Rather, it is a set of standards: interfaces, design guidelines, software design specifications, for creating the computer code that will become an OS kernel, and defining language interfaces between an OS and its programs, to give compatibility when moving programs between compatible systems."

Next, you'll be telling us you've found a way to run ANSI on a TRS-80 for use as an audio editor.

Also, and much more importantly, I'm sure you felt it was necessary and/or justified to display your superiority by insulting our Asian friends with the use of your derogatory nickname for them, but I for one would appreciate it if you kept it to yourself next time.

hm

ed209

11-05-2007, 09:49 AM

mysteryman

11-05-2007, 11:32 AM

That Ultragod seems like such a nice and talented individual.

JasonTheron

11-05-2007, 12:22 PM

That Ultragod seems like such a nice and talented individual.

ROFLMAO!
I just peed a little.

NCNDude

11-05-2007, 03:09 PM

You know a couple of your points are certainly valid. I'll concede that. Examining your most recent replies it's obvious that you are in fact quite intelligent. I think it is the fact that most of the points in your post are obscured with swearing, borderline racial slurs and the use of hard to read "netspeak" that turns many off from giving you serious consideration. It also predisposes others to respond in kind. At least those of us who are immature like me. Hehe.

I put those quotes in my sig because they were amusing. To each his own.

Your hypocrisy is fascinating. Here I am creating a thread that pushes streamlining, & your signature line agrees, yet U ruin it by contradicting yourself. R U even aware what your signature says? FUNNY! =)

What's wrong - afraid if U agree with good advice your balls will shrink or something? It's a program U jackass - a computer tool, not the tool between your legs. Don't get so attached.

Diogenes

11-05-2007, 03:19 PM

James HE

11-05-2007, 03:31 PM

Jae.Thomas

11-05-2007, 03:59 PM

A lot of genius's have poor social skills. I wonder what UltraGod's
excuse is?

ouch! double burn!

Tallisman

11-05-2007, 04:36 PM

---- Code 42 ----

matt avery

11-05-2007, 05:10 PM

I'm still waiting for UltraGOOB to tell us which audio/midi interface he uses. Personally, I don't care but someone asked the question and of course, UltraGOOB dodged it. Could it be he doesn't even know what is being talked about?

D

yeah, i asked the question once, and he totally dodged it saying that jacklab was his "interface" of choice. i really want to know how many tracks he can record simultaneously with a 400mhz box. and his "realtime" monitoring must be a joke.

Teksonik

11-05-2007, 06:45 PM

Please tell me why Ultragod has not been banned yet? He has used foul language in several posts and has insulted and attacked forum members. Certainly these are violations of the forum rules. If I want to deal with this kind posting I can go to KVR and yes I've been known to stir up a little dust over there myself. Who cares what one person using ancient technology thinks? Does Justin need his $50 that bad? I would imagine not. Hey I'm as old school as anyone, I've still got a couple of old Atari 1040ST's hanging around and they still work. Should I ask Justin to make Reaper work on the Atari because they never crash and their midi timing is rock solid? Of course not, what a waste of Justin's time. It's safe to say the vast majority of Reaper's customers or potential customers are generally happy with Reaper's interface and the number of available high quality skins virtually assures that everyone can choose a skin they find useful and pleasing. The Reaper forums have been civilized and populated with very talented and helpful members so far in my experience. Please don't let this place become another KVR. While I love KVR and wouldn't change it one bit, the Reaper forums have been a place to come for peace and genuine exchange of USEFUL ideas and information. I respectfully request that Ultragod be banned and this thread be deleted or at least locked. I know I haven't been here long enough to make such a request and I'm generally not in favor of censorship but I'd like to stick around here for a long time to come since Reaper has become my numer one DAW. I'd love for this forum to remain a peaceful place, if you want to fight then go to KVR and I'll be more than happy to duke it out over there. Thank you for your consideration.

Justin

11-05-2007, 07:01 PM

beyond

11-06-2007, 01:00 AM

Ok, compare this guy to a barking dog.. Is there any sense in trying to talk sense to a hostile barking dog? (I do like dogs very much, just the peaceful ones)

On the other hand, I am glad that he did not get to isolate a single person to attack, and sensible people of this community are actively out-numbering him in defense.

The quality and the conduct of people here is far surpassing of KVR. I would like that protected somehow. If he begins to not just swearing, but swearing AT people, I do think it would be responsible to take some action. Starting maybe with a warning.

Teksonik

11-06-2007, 05:53 AM

I only read the top part of your post, teksonik, but we just try to avoid censoring/banning people unless they're really really bad (i.e. not just swearing), spamming, or whatnot...

I agree this guy is an idiot, but banning him likely wouldn't accomplish much anyway.

Ok fair enough, like I said near the bottom of my post I'm generally not in favor of censorship. It's just in my opinion KVR would be a better venue for such a discussion. If his ideas had any merit or could potentially benefit the Reaper community then I could see it staying here. I have the choice to ignore his threads and posts and will do so. However I fear a too liberal form of forum moderation will cause this place to have more "idiots" as you say coming here to troll. KVR is already a perfect place for these type of postings so there's no need to pollute the waters here. Just my opinion, thanks for addressing the issue.

happymonkey

11-08-2007, 12:11 AM

...However I fear a too liberal form of forum moderation will cause this place to have more "idiots" as you say coming here to troll...

...And the idiots ARE going to come. Trolls too. Idiots are everywhere I'm afraid - I run into them all the time. However, this forum has been blessed (so far) with an overwhelming majority of intelligent, rational, level headed people who have a habit of alienating the loonies and/or backing them into corners so they don't stick around too long.

My advise is that if you come across a thread/post/member that rubs you the wrong way, just take a deep breath and walk away. Make use of the ignore feature anytime you like. It's the conflicts and confrontations that idiots and trolls feed on as is blatantly obvious from this thread. The fact that so many people brought this thread back from the dead both surprises me and also confirms my belief that NOBODY can look away from a car crash no matter how bad it is.

I'm sure that if a thread on this forum gets too out of hand (and I'm thinking stuff like racism, threats, etc...) that the mods will see it or hear about it and take the necessary actions. Free speech is great and all, but everything has its limits.

As far as the KVR comment, that place is hell compared to the heaven we have here. The site does serve a purpose (I get their weekly e-mail with plugin updates which is how I found out about Reaper) but their board is completely off the rails....

hm

Teksonik

11-08-2007, 07:28 AM

... The fact that so many people brought this thread back from the dead

Like we both just did.........:)

As far as the KVR comment, that place is hell compared to the heaven we have here. The site does serve a purpose (I get their weekly e-mail with plugin updates which is how I found out about Reaper) but their board is completely off the rails....

hm

Hence my desire to keep this place from turning into another "hell". KVR is already a place that's perfect for people like Utralgod to get their fix, no need to come here. That's why all the best clubs have bouncers at the door. :) Ok , I don't want to bump this thread any more, let it die.

------

Diogenes

11-08-2007, 07:34 AM

This thing is like a train wreck beside the Interstate highway. Nobody can resist slowing down to gawk at the twisted, smoldering mess just see what havoc hath been wrought. Human nature...

D

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 12:10 PM

ultragod- what kind of interface do you use? i can't see it being very easy to cost-effectively track 24+ tracks simultaneously on a 40mhz laptop without firewire or usb. and what about live monitoring? i would assume that such a computer would not be able to handle all of this. am i wrong here?

you need good hardware for audio as well...

I would tell U what type of interface, but then I'd have 2 kill U =) Reason is, people literally THROW THEM AWAY yet they sound absolutely FANTASTIC! I don't wanna' tip the world that they R throwing away beautiful-sounding 'obsolete' cards, so I shal keep my mouth shut on that 1 ~:D

I do not track 24 things simultaneously! I never said I did, so grow a brain. I take things in stereo usually, but when I want more, yes I have 4 'stereo' sound cards set up so can do 8 @ once. It's really quite easy, & the setyp cost me NOTHING, because people leave this amazing stuff ON THE STREET, & the sound quality is GLORIOUS! :)

Firewire has high latency, & same with USB. If U want it fast, use a card. With Win '05 OSR1, it's lightning fast (especially on stuff like 2+Ghz donations I get in. This is insane really - I am just blown away people R giving away all this cool stuff! Try this - put out an ad in your local paper (free ads) saying "I accept used/obsolete computer donations, call (insert phone number here) & leave a message 2 make arrangements"

For 'live monitoring' U can send outputs simultaneously 2 multiple cards. It's really very easy & it's all FREE! So, if Reaper say, or someone, made a version of it in C or something (or even better, assembly language), like Buzz - Buzz with 'rewire' and 'recomp' & multiple track recording - OMG I'm getting all excited - that would rule!

By the way, Kraftwerk do all their stuff live on Sony Vaio laptops. Sony's sound good (usually - their 1 bit thingy)

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 12:47 PM

Kid, you really crack me up... Rap CD's - that's cute... How little you know about me or anyone else around here.

If you took the time to read my post, you might have noticed that I wasn't talking to you. As such, there was no need for you to comment on it. But you did, which is rude, and that makes you the punk here.

Now go bugger off, learn to spell, and be sure to come back when your voice stops cracking, ok kid?

hm

Again, it is obvious 2 N E 1 reading this thread that YOU are the troll. I have CHOSEN 2 engage U 2 illustrate the fact that U contribute NOTHING of value - no ideas, no tips, nothing. All U do is insult & abuse, whereas I, by contrast, insult & abuse only IN COMBINATION with good advices, so as 2 get noticed & have a bit of fun in the process :D I deliver some sweet with the bitter, whereas U R ENTIRELY negative. YOU are the 1 with the 'issues'. This is the last post of yours I will respond 2. Future posts by U I will ignore (if I even remember who the fuk U R - 'cuz I really don't care LOL)

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 12:51 PM

i was meaning to ask what kind of hardware you use. you know, ada converter?

I love old 'crappy garbage useless who in their right mind would use that obsolete garbage you are so stuck in the past go waste a ton of money on the latest buggy high-latency unreliable firewire usb alphabet soup garbage' cards :D

Did U get all that? haha

Granted, Aztech (or other 'analog devices' brands) suk - harsh city! Also, avoid cards stuck in a single bitrate - like 48 - will make all ya' 44 sound like DO DO! By contrast, if U R only gonna' do CD rate (44), get somethin' stuck in 44 :)

OK I've said enough - my advice is starting 2 narrow the card choices - thus jacking the value of the remaining 'secret gems' (uh oh)

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 12:54 PM

Just to enlighten you (and anyone else still reading this inane thread), TRON is in fact NOT an... (bla bla bla)

U can say the same about UNIX, Buckwheat. I stopped reading after 'not an operating system'. Now go waste your cash on a crappy-ass-lookin LCD flat mumbo jumbo when U can get a big Trinitron 'so clear it's just like looking through a window' 'obsolete' piece of 'crap' for FREE! :)

Insane boys - so fun laughing @ them LOL

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 12:58 PM

ok.

I know I'm a bit slow, but the waveform-display is able to be nonexistant as a default, at least here? isn't that good? -not the part that it may only be at my place but rather that it might be a common thing for anyone using Reaper.

and there's even an option to display waveforms only when you select a track - kewl, non?

Hello Mr. E.S.L. :D Prob with Reaper is the waveform display crapola keeps hijackin' itself back :( I DO NOT WANT IT EVER NO THANK U! & U have 2 keep resetting it, & it puts this stupid 'no data' crap there. Just give me a bar... even a row of '*' characters R just fine. Hell, even that is unnecessary - just, say, an on/off marker of some sort, & a vertical time line thingy that scrolls along. U can tell which track has content @ that particular moment because the indicator can B on or off.

OMG I just streamlined BEYOND Buzz! :D Holy crap I'm a genious! Save your CPU cycles for WORK, not glitter & bullsh*t.

Remember, if U want pretty, look @ a girl, not some machine :) Machines 4 audio are TOOLS. The end-user can't C it (it is just sound!), so don't waste YOUR resources displaying it.

P.S.: Did U guys notice how @ 1 point Reaper REMOVED the capability 2 group manipulate track heights? COMMON SENSE! Shades of Micro$oft there - perhaps, practicing feature REMOVAL & bug implantation with aspirations of endless 'upgrade cycles' - new 'Vista's (wink) of $cams HAHAHA

OMG I am already hearing about all the 'bugs' in vista. They R not - they R there by design. They do it ON PURPOSE.

Reaper guys, please B different. The world already has plenty of crapola. The 'rewire' & 'recomp' & 'format intermixing' R good advances. Please take it 2 the next level ...

1) grid mixing popup (pan on 1 axis, volume on another, or surround pan + volume via keys)

2) OPTION for a more streamlined interface

3) Elimination of whatever MOLASSES is keeping this thing so damn SLOW compared 2 other tracking programs. Hell can barely do 6 tracks on a 400. That's pretty sad, considering I can do more than 20 on a 40 (fourty)

schwa

11-08-2007, 01:02 PM

This thread reminds me of a Dr. Bronner's soap bottle.

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 01:05 PM

That Ultragod seems like such a nice and talented individual.

I really am! =) Thank U

U R 2 kind

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 01:08 PM

You know a couple of your points are certainly valid. I'll concede that. Examining your most recent replies it's obvious that you are in fact quite intelligent. I think it is the fact that most of the points in your post are obscured with swearing, borderline racial slurs and the use of hard to read "netspeak" that turns many off from giving you serious consideration. It also predisposes others to respond in kind. At least those of us who are immature like me. Hehe.

I put those quotes in my sig because they were amusing. To each his own.

Funny thing is, the quote U chose illustrates that (in that case @ least) I am entirely correct. Lots of guys buy PCs as 'bling' - rather like how some men buy sports cars or other useless dead objects, trying 2 compensate 4 some 'shortcomming'.

Cool icon by the way - ROBOCAT! =D

Hey what's the code 4 inserting an image in a post??? I tried IMG SRC stuff but didn't work :(

http://www.cockos.com/forum/image.php?u=1649&dateline=1191966777

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 01:19 PM

I'm still waiting for UltraGOOB to tell us which audio/midi interface he uses. Personally, I don't care but someone asked the question and of course, UltraGOOB dodged it. Could it be he doesn't even know what is being talked about?

D

Scan my other posts 4 info. Sorry if I don't visit the thread every day. Last time B 4 this week was 'bout a year ago or something. Some of my ideas do get through 2 the cokos guys - or @ least help facilitate it, like they brought track height grouping back :)

Here is a really good interface suggestion if U have the space... oh wait, Y am I helping YOU?!?! HAHA - N E 1 want tips on that, E-Mail me :D

Personally I prefer cards - sound as good, much less latency, & take less space.

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 01:22 PM

Sound Blaster LIVE!

I mean what else would an Ultragod use?

Err actually I guess he doesn't use an interface. I mean obviously it just get in the way!

A lot of genius's have poor social skills. I wonder what UltraGod's
excuse is?

HAHAHA - those POS R stuck @ 48 dood - bad news - unless the only thing U do is DVD mastering??? Their codec is crap as well - the 'surrounds' have lower noise than the frots! How retarded is that?

My social skills R excellent thank U :D I am rude where it is necessary 2 manipulate people out of a deep stupor of brainwashed nonsense. I am nice when I want something free. I insult gals about their fear of motherhood so they will let me knock them up. Every circumstance dictates a particular strategy =)

RichardM

11-08-2007, 01:22 PM

Troll ...
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

Only one way to get rid of 'em ... completely ignore and refuse to get drawn in. My one post in this thread. See ya - this guy's going on my ignore list

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 01:24 PM

---- Code 42 ----

Code 42??? What an arrogant/insulting non-joke. Nobody but linux circle jerk clowns give a fuk about what this code or that means. We HUMANS want things MENU DRIVEN & in plain English =)

U R a bandwidth leech, & should post some ideas how 2 improve Reaper by streamlining & feature improvements rather than wasting space on the thread with that crap.

Diogenes

11-08-2007, 01:30 PM

Oh by the way, my web site says I use

Post a link.

D

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 01:55 PM

Post a link.

D

As I said, if U want 2 buy 1, E-Mail me 4 details :) They R expensive. The speakers R not so pricey, & very cool as well - Tesla lookin' stuff, loud AND natural sound. Perhaps if U come by California sometime U would like 2 visit 4 a demo - very unusual design - not 'box with drivers' nonsense (though I must admit & used 2 B in the 'box' mindset - what a fool I was!)

Yes I have a web site bla bla bla - this isn't about me. It's about improving REAPER! =) I'm not here 2 sell product.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 02:00 PM

I CREATED THIS THREAD YOU FUKIN' RETARD! I am 'disrupting' MYSELF??!?! LOL!!!

now i think i know who ultragod is.

I think he goes by the name of JP22 otherwise.

OMG THAT WAS A HORRIBLE LINK im sorry.

http://img409.**************/img409/125/112760reaperwontrunon20vl6.jpg (http://**************)

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 02:14 PM

now i think i know who I worship. Thy name is Ultragod.

I think he goes by the name of JP22 otherwise, but I could be mistaken. At least he realizes Windows is only desirable as a compatibility interface, and if there were a 'nix that offered the same flexibility, he would get behind it in a second.

http://www.fefe.de/nowindows/

All I can say is, I now realize Ultragod is an amazing person - with advice beautiful as a smokin' babe. He is the way & the light..

http://neptuneholographics.com/pics/Pretty_Turkish_Gals/Fatos_Kabasakal.jpg (http://neptuneholographics.com)

Who I am is irrelevant (U R attacking the messenger doing a straw man routine). I am not 'JP22', nor do I post in other names here. This is not about me. It's about streamlining & improving reaper.

P.S.: Heya check out my picture icon - WHEEEE! =)
Thanx 4 the image linking trick. I didn't think B 4 of editing a post 2 reveal the code - heh heh & Reaper DOES runon '95 OSR1. It's modded tho - runs NTFS & multiple monitors, etc. I call it M$ 'Kitchen Sink' HAHA It's the shell from '95 OSR1 that I like - I modded that 2 - err, paid a programmer 2 combine a little of this & that. Prob' tho' is it crashes with some of the effects :( oh well - does the same nonsense with 98SE. I would say in 'official' Windows install, Reaper ONLY runs in XP, 'cuz reaper is FEATURE LIMITED (crashes here & there dependin' on whatcha' do) with other OSes.

Reaper = 'XP only' (unfortunate, but currently the case).

Same goes 4 playing DVDs with FFDSHOW W/MPC - XP is more reliable. Sometimes with other OSes will close or skip during playback, or have menu problems. Probably a way 2 fix that but XP was the easy solution (tho' XP wastes a lot of CPU). Zoom is an interesting player also, & GOM, but they both have 'issues' so far - Zoom is arcane & doesn't integrate with FFDSHOW properly, & Gom has jaggies, sound probs, etc. Actually, that is an issue for THEIR threads not here LOL

It's cool 2 make a 'multimedia PC' with these - 200Mhz is fine, FFDSHOW + Media Player Classic =) Nice neat single window interface instead of the popup & non-standard jellybean shotgun nonsense of 'skinned' garbage (like Zoom & others).

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 02:18 PM

Code 42??? What an arrogant/insulting non-joke. Nobody but linux circle jerk clowns give a fuk about what this code or that means. We HUMANS want things MENU DRIVEN & in plain English =)

U R a bandwidth leech, & should post some ideas how 2 improve Reaper by streamlining & feature improvements rather than wasting space on the thread with that crap.

For the love of errrmm Commodore Vic-20s man get a grip! Then give your head a shake. Wake up a and dodge the pee. Can you not see how folks are repeatedly pissing on you? (hmmm maybe you like being peed on - hot lunch maybe? You are coming across like the freak on the Springer show that makes idiots, losers, morons, and trash in assorted shades feel better about themselves.

You are claiming that I am wasting bandwidth. And yet, aside from the comedic reprise, you have yet yet to offer this community anything of value.

Incidentally, ---- Code 42 ---- has about as much to do with Linux as you have to do with common sense.

I am not saying that you are a complete idiot. But I am wondering what may cause you to want to emulate one with such fierce realism!

how do you keep the sand out of your nostrils? :eek:

and three cheers for the wee humans!

*edit for the wee human:
Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r Reaper reaper reaper r e a p e r - and there we have it.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 02:25 PM

This is not about me. It's about streamlining & improving reaper.

join the club

thats what we're all about.

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 02:27 PM

For the love of errrmm Commodore Vic...

I would bother reading the rest of your post if it had something relevant 2 do with REAPER! ~:P

Grow a brain, U bandwidth/page space leech.

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 02:34 PM

join the club

thats what we're all about.

WOOO! =) Hey what's the best proggy 2 emulate this sound?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vp7lFw2mkaw

(if link breaks later, Youtube search 'HIM Wicked Game Rare' - park version)

Awesomeness! yow

I wanna' do that in software with my SG style guitar. I'm just fiddlin' & hoping 2 avoid spending 2 years sifting through all the bullsh*t aps 2 find the 1 that actually does what it claims (as in, sound as cool as real tubes).

I use preamps ma'self, into EQ & compression & stuff after. I wold like 2 eliminate the rack - more portable. I noticed U made posts someplace related 2 emulating guitar rigs.

L8R ~!~

vocalfons

11-08-2007, 02:57 PM

this is my first visit to this forum. Can someone please reassure me, ultragod is not on every thread? The bandwith he tries to save on his PC, is compensated for by the bandwith he comsumes on this thread. He has my CPU on overload.

Hope you're happy now?

I need a beer to cool my brain!

(ultragod you guys make music, too, by the way? or have a life at all?)

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 03:02 PM

he is not...
not yet anyway.

I believe that ultragod is the exception that proves the rule.

;)
.t

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 03:04 PM

I would bother reading the rest of your post if it had something relevant 2 do with REAPER! ~:P

Grow a brain, U bandwidth/page space leech.

like this reply you mean?

well I guess that it does mention the name of the application...

ok. you win fixing....

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 03:17 PM

this is my first visit to this forum. Can someone please reassure me, ultragod is not on every thread?

I think I am in 3 threads, all of which I started, & haven't posted here in about a year (this week being the latest)

The bandwith he tries to save on his PC, is compensated for by the bandwith he comsumes on this thread. He has my CPU on overload.

Hope you're happy now?

Try Mozilla Firefox - it's a very fast browser - infinitely better than IE. Alternately, Opera is best for image browsing (change display prefs. on the fly), & K-Meleon for limited animation WITH flashblock switch (haven't found the Greasemonkey plugin button 2 select gif animation with Mozilla - does it exist?)

I need a beer to cool my brain!

Booze is bad 4 U. Don't drink. Maybe if U clean up, U can B smart like me :D

(ultragod you guys make music, too, by the way? or have a life at all?)

I guess comming back once a year means I have 'no life' - uh huh Mr. Straw Man

Well I hope my browser tips help U. Maybe I can bring U over from the bloatware 'dark side' =D Join me, & together we can build a new world... in assembly language - cleaner, fast-acting, long-lasting, superior

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 03:23 PM

yeah lets use three net browsers for different things.

thats real streamlined ;)

JJJ

11-08-2007, 03:26 PM

'NO I DON'T FUKING WANT WAVEFORMS NOW EITHER I DID NOT CHANGE MY MIND'
Ultraclod, can't spell "fuc#ing" properly?

Thats just downright sad...And unsanitary.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 03:27 PM

Like if U say a cockroach is ugly, U must wanna' B an insect, or if U hate nigs, U must B 'jealous' of their smelly ugly slimy retarded 3'rd world asses.

yay lets add "bigot" to the list!

ban worthy much?

reported.

didnt you get your answer already anyway? REAPER will never be what you want it to be. So stop with the self abuse and leave us all alone :)

Diogenes

11-08-2007, 03:29 PM

As I said, if U want 2 buy 1, E-Mail me 4 details They R expensive.

Right. That's what I figured you'd say... your other post about the 10K USD? For a "Win95 12TB server"? Umm... no thanks.

Have a nice life UltraGOOB...

D

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 03:37 PM

UR using a fallacy called 'complex question'. Look it up. It's a type of straw man lie like implying statements about others R by nature reflexive. Like if U say a cockroach is ugly, U must wanna' B an insect, or if U hate nigs, U must B 'jealous' of their smelly ugly slimy retarded 3'rd world asses. It's nonsense basically. I mention it because I am trying 2 keep this thread about Reaper - it's not about me. Attacking me will not improve the quality of the Reaper program, so U R kind of cutting off your own legs when U post crap like U R doing. Some things that CAN improve Reaper functionality I have mentioned in this thread - like pan/volume popup grid, a waveform display defeat that actually stays off, a faster (somehow) tracking ability (instead of 20-60Mhz per track or so, contrasting with Windows native 2Mhz per track reading WAVs)

'N U R da master of GR8 vocab 'N GraMMar AS WEE HUMANS can surely C
not 2 mention logic and people skills.

I bet the first name you learned as a child was Uncledaddy!

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 03:39 PM

yeah lets use three net browsers for different things.

thats real streamlined ;)

U imply the word streamlined means LIMITATION. Stop being retarded. Each goal dictates different tools.

If U still don't understand this fundamentally obvious concept, allow me to illustrate:

The tool should B streamlined 2 most effectively reach the desired goals, not the WIDEST VARIETY of goals. What U get then is WinHose bloatware.

Is your goal a 'pretty' jellybean chrome glossy bullsh*t 'consumer entertainment' program, or a kickass fast-as-hell tool that wastes as little CPU as possible while retaining the functionality needed for music editing?

You obviously have different goals. I seek a tool, & it's Y I mostly use Vegas & Acid. Reaper is on the right track with their 'rewire' & 'recomp' thing - they should just take it a little step further & give people the OPTION 2 turn off the jellybean & waveform B.S. - those are ENTERTAINMENT features, not PRODUCTION features. If I want 2 entertain my eyes, I can watch a DVD - get it? Wise up.

Now what program(s) can emulate the guitar track I linked to?

Matt P

11-08-2007, 03:45 PM

Dear Ultra Liar,

Why don't you tell everyone what you do use for your computers with 6TB of storage,.....

Oh wait here is a quote from your website PETER!
Oh wait here is a link also!

http://www.neptuneholographics.com/sites/neptune_holographics_web_site/cool_tools.htm#more2B

"Quote"

NOTE: With a volume of 1.5 cubic feet, each Neptune Server comes stock with speedy dual DVDR/W & CDR/W drives, RAID capability + 6TB (6 thousand gigs) of non-volatile storage via 15 hard drives (13 drive internal array + 2 via modular pullout sleds) & is expandable via infinite sled-mounted/removable drives. With current (2004) technology Neptune Entertainment Servers serve up more gigs per cubic foot than any competing industrial solution. About 25 years ago a gig cost about $100K in today's money so 6TB would run half a billion dollars (literally). For example, with compression that's enough space for over a million songs (6+ years of music nonstop 24/7), or 7,200 movies (1.2 years 24/7) - plenty of room for all 88 groovy Farscape shows plus nearly 6TB of other stuff. You get lots of room even without using compressed formats such as AVI, MP3, etc. With Neptune you're all set! ...

"May The Gigs be with you."

AMD Opteron CPUs employed in Neptune Servers are combined with a gig (8+ max) of Samsung ECC DDR RAM, stable Asus SK8N motherboard, & allow simultaneous 64 & 32 bit OS & software operation including Windows XP/2000/NT (NT kernel), Windows 2003 (64-bit NT kernel), Windows ME/98SE/98/95/3.1/DOS (DOS kernel), Red Hat/United Linux/Free BSD (Unix kernel), SuSE & more! Special effects houses such as Pixar (Finding Nemo/Toy Story), and ILM (Star Wars/George Lucas) & others use mostly Linux OS combined with specialized graphics software & machines like this one. Neptune Servers can be used wireless with other Neptune products as well as your existing equipment if you desire in both consumer and industrial applications.

"Unquote"

And just think you get this $2000.00 computer for only $10,000.00.
Yes you heard me right only $10,000.00

Do you talk like this to your customers?
Are really this big of a jack ass?
Should we post a link to this thread on your web site?
My advice is grow up and stop your BS about 400MHZ, 6TB, WIN95,
and how lame we all are here.
there seems to be plenty of other forums that feel the same way about you, in fact I'm sure that really what you want is someone to like you is it not Peter.
So I guess let's all give Peter a group HUG and make him feel loved.

Why not help instead.

Matt P :) ;) :) :p

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 03:45 PM

Right. That's what I figured you'd say... your other post about the 10K USD? For a "Win95 12TB server"? Umm... no thanks.

Have a nice life UltraGOOB...

D

As I stated, ppl R so brainwashed, that my site claims I use BSD & stuff like that, so when they come visit for a demo and actually see the performance of 2 identical systems side-by side (standard overpriced bullsh*t like you buy) vs. what I do ('95 OSR1 modded) they naturally pick the '95 hybrid, because it outperforms it.

I sell PERFORMANCE, not 'bling' ripoffs. Now go hurry along boy & buy your $2,000 'latest greatest' firewire 'high latency crashmaster 6000' rackmount interface HAHAHAHA

GO ahead & compare the servers in that range. Go spend $20,000 on a Dell - what do I care? I'm not here 2 sell U things. I'm here 2 help improve reaper with good ideas on streamlining, etc. =)

You're pathetic. As I assumed, you are not actually interested in server technology, only intereested in mocking ANYTHING I say, because it's not about Reaper 2 U. It's about your utterly retarded cock-measuring contest.

You and your fukwit pals should go find a clue, & get back 2 me. Join me in helping improve this software with some good ideas, instead of wasting space on the board with your hoax setup bullsh*t.

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 03:49 PM

Dear Ultra Liar,

Why don't you tell everyone what you do use for your computers with 6TB of storage,.....

That is not what I sell. It is a competitor site - cool pix tho =) Here's a really wild concept - how about you come up with some good ideas on how 2 steamline & improve Reaper & post them in this thread. Who knows, U might just learn something :D

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 03:55 PM

That is not what I sell. It is a competitor site - cool pix tho =) Here's a really wild concept - how about you come up with some good ideas on how 2 steamline & improve Reaper & post them in this thread. Who knows, U might just learn something :D

I don't mean to burst you bubble, but...

Reaper has yet to benefit from this thread.

Reaper has yet to benefit from the existence of

U

*edit: actually i do mean to burst your bubble.
**edit (of an earlier statement): you are a complete idiot!

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 04:00 PM

I don't mean to burst you bubble, but...

Reaper has yet to benefit from this thread.

Reaper has yet to benefit from the existence of

U

*edit: actually i do mean to burst your bubble.
**edit (of an earlier statement): you are a complete idiot!

Here's a wild concept - tell us how YOU would streamline Reaper & improve it's performance :) Give us your ideas, so the Reaper guys can perhaps read them & improve the program. You have contributed NOTHING in this thread - only abuse & waste of page space. I give lots of good ideas, & a bit of WELL DESERVED insults 2 moronic half-assed sh*t like YOU who ONLY come here 2 abuse people who want 2 improve the program for everybody.

Now go listen 2 your rap CDs, punk. B sure 2 activate the 'dope fresh' fartmaster bass plugin 4 maximum blackness.

JJJ

11-08-2007, 04:02 PM

Again, it is obvious 2 N E 1 reading this thread that YOU are the troll. I have CHOSEN 2 engage U 2 illustrate the fact that U contribute NOTHING of value - no ideas, no tips, nothing. All U do is insult & abuse, whereas I, by contrast, insult & abuse only IN COMBINATION with good advices, so as 2 get noticed & have a bit of fun in the process :D I deliver some sweet with the bitter, whereas U R ENTIRELY negative. YOU are the 1 with the 'issues'. This is the last post of yours I will respond 2. Future posts by U I will ignore (if I even remember who the fuk U R - 'cuz I really don't care LOL)

You're getting a little overheated here. Open up a window, (take the tin foil off) and take a deep breath. Have your Mom fire up her computer, (the one that has the internet on it) and chat with some of your AOL friends...You'll feel better...

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:08 PM

Now go listen 2 your rap CDs, punk. B sure 2 activate the 'dope fresh' fartmaster bass plugin 4 maximum blackness.

hmmm more bigotry.

reported.

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 04:10 PM

Here's a wild concept - tell us how YOU would streamline Reaper & improve it's performance :) Give us your ideas, so the Reaper guys can perhaps read them & improve the program. You have contributed NOTHING in this thread - only abuse & waste of page space. I give lots of good ideas, & a bit of WELL DESERVED insults 2 moronic half-assed sh*t like YOU who ONLY come here 2 abuse people who want 2 improve the program for everybody.

Now go listen 2 your rap CDs, punk. B sure 2 activate the 'dope fresh' fartmaster bass plugin 4 maximum blackness.

So when your logic and reason completely fail you, then you litter your streamline reaper thread with racial slurs... nice.

You would have less trouble seeing and recognizing reality if you pulled the hood back.

now. here is a taste of reality:
Neither Reaper, nor this community will benefit from racial slurs, prejudicial remarks, or anything vaguely similar. That is the only warning. I am not trying to provoke you into more of the same. Leave that shit at the door, or you will not be welcome here.

many greetings,
t.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:10 PM

You and your fukwit pals should go find a clue, & get back 2 me. Join me in helping improve this software with some good ideas, instead of wasting space on the board with your hoax setup bullsh*t.

please list your ideas in a simple, easy to understand manner for us lowly humans.

gregh

11-08-2007, 04:12 PM

U thing - they should just take it a little step further & give people the OPTION 2 turn off the jellybean & waveform B.S. - those are ENTERTAINMENT features,

this is not correct - there are some musical applications that need waveform view regardless of whether you acknowledge that or not eg grafting, cascading or stacking transients.

to be able to turn off waveform view is fine, but to say that waveform view is strictly for entertainment is incorrect, although it may serve no function for you

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:17 PM

Aaah yes, whites hate no one as much as they hate themselves. Tell us moron how U lick the poo from kike asses & pray 2 the 'magic jew in the sky' as U bomb camel jockeys 10,000 miles away as America is flooded with 4'th world cockroach sh*t from Mexico.

No, don't tell us about guitar rig emulation softwares. Don't post tips on how 2 improve Reaper - just 'report' the guy who CREATED the thread about SOFTWARE and who TROLLS have attacked.

Your irony is hillarious - like watching a wolf eat it's own legs. Oh yes tell us all about 'the blessings of rap' HAHAHAHAHA

U ppl R all IDIOTS! (OK, more like 80% :)

=)

youll be banned before long im sure.

anyway i keep wanting to answer your question, but im sure you are wondering why i dont.

2 reasons

1. you keep posting such amazing foolishness and hatred that i have to just take a step back and laugh.

2. No ampsim in software would be good enough for you honestly. They are all, you know, up to date? Unless you want to use cakewalk fx's amp sim. that one was DE-- LIGHT -- FUL

JJJ

11-08-2007, 04:17 PM

Aaah yes, whites hate no one as much as they hate themselves. Tell us moron how U lick the poo from kike asses & pray 2 the 'magic jew in the sky' as U bomb camel jockeys 10,000 miles away as America is flooded with 4'th world cockroach sh*t from Mexico.

No, don't tell us about guitar rig emulation softwares. Don't post tips on how 2 improve Reaper - just 'report' the guy who CREATED the thread about SOFTWARE and who TROLLS have attacked.

Your irony is hillarious - like watching a wolf eat it's own legs. Oh yes tell us all about 'the blessings of rap' HAHAHAHAHA

U ppl R all IDIOTS! (OK, more like 80% :)

=)

If I didn't know better, I'd swear you were angry about something.

Maybe it's time to brush your tooth and go to bed?

P.S. What is "rap"?

Do wolves really eat their own legs? If so, how do they walk?

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 04:18 PM

this is not correct - there are some musical applications that need waveform view regardless of whether you acknowledge that or not eg grafting, cascading or stacking transients.

to be able to turn off waveform view is fine, but to say that waveform view is strictly for entertainment is incorrect, although it may serve no function for you

U R using inductive fallacy. I did not say entertainment is the ONLY aspect of that feature. It is, however, the primary aspect, as VERY few people ever do 'transient stacking' or such nonsense, & it can still be done quicker and easier by EAR, simply by sliding things until they coincide rather than chorus.

U remind me of those linux jackasses who preach 2 every question "you don't really want that feature" or "write the code yourself". It's similar 2 the trolls who hang out in technical forums & 2 every computer question write "Just reinstal Windows" or "Time to reformat" - pathetic.

B CONSTRUCTIVE. This is a forum how 2 STREAMLINE, not BLOAT Reaper. I wanna' B able 2 turn that sh*t OFF, & Reaper's waveform display keeps hijacking itself back on. I want it off MY install - YOU can turn it on - fine. I want a switch that actually WORKS (@ the very least).

Your defeatest 'it's good like it is' nonsense gets civilization nowhere.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:18 PM

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:19 PM

AARRRGHHH I DONT OWN A TUBE AMP@!!!! H A HA HAHAHAHH.
heres a great solution for you:

dont

use

reaper.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:21 PM

see this button?

http://www.cockos.com/forum/images/buttons/report.gif

this is the report button. its in the lower left hand corner of every post.

i urge everyone that feels this way to report each of his bigoted posts :)

if you so desire.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:24 PM

it wont ever be "fixed"

as a matter of fact, they are thinking of taking that option out entirely. I have the inside word on that.

so

you had better go somewhere else for your audiosoftware needs.

gregh

11-08-2007, 04:24 PM

U R using inductive fallacy. I did not say entertainment is the ONLY aspect of that feature. It is, however, the primary aspect, as VERY few people ever do 'transient stacking' or such nonsense, & it can still be done quicker and easier by EAR, simply by sliding things until they coincide rather than chorus.

U remind me of those linux jackasses who preach 2 every question "you don't really want that feature" or "write the code yourself". It's similar 2 the trolls who hang out in technical forums & 2 every computer question write "Just reinstal Windows" or "Time to reformat" - pathetic.

B CONSTRUCTIVE. This is a forum how 2 STREAMLINE, not BLOAT Reaper. I wanna' B able 2 turn that sh*t OFF, & Reaper's waveform display keeps hijacking itself back on. I want it off MY install - YOU can turn it on - fine. I want a switch that actually WORKS (@ the very least).

Your defeatest 'it's good like it is' nonsense gets civilization nowhere.

you can't perform the functions i'm describing by ear - and even if you could it would be slower to do so

The inductive fallacy does not apply, why bring it up?

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:26 PM

Tell us Jason, all about how U have NO ideas WHATSOEVER how 2 improve Reaper, & come here 2 'report' the 'evil' people who hate the ENEMIES OF CIVILIZATION and YOUR OWN RACE. Tell us, Jason, how U like 2 rent Mexican crotch & dream of turning America into a 3'rd world pussbag filled with rap monkeys & kikes & everything else - but oh no, don't ask 4 tips on guitar amp emulation software or how 2 streamline Reaper - oh heavens no - 'magic jew in the sky - save us!' LOL

I already answered your question about amp sim software. I doubt any of the decent stuff is win85 compatible.

reported.

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 04:27 PM

it wont ever be "fixed"

as a matter of fact, they are thinking of taking that option out entirely. I have the inside word on that.

so

you had better go somewhere else for your audiosoftware needs.

HAHAHA - if they do take it out, they only secure their place @ the bottom of the distribution pile, with crap like 'Goldwave' and 'Audacity' LOL!!!

No, don't integrate useful features 2 improve performance & speed - instead, we must bloat it beyond belief. It's the 'Vista' way! =)

Remember, if it doesn't take 2Ghz per track, it's CRAP! (what U morons will B saying in 10 years HAHAHA)

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:27 PM

and let it be known, I certainly have had many ideas regarding reaper and how to make it more streamlined. Im sorry it doesnt meet up with your perfect standard. Maybe you have a "solution" for people like me too?

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:28 PM

HAHAHA - if they do take it out, they only secure their place @ the bottom of the distribution pile, with crap like 'Goldwave' and 'Audacity' LOL!!!

No, don't integrate useful features 2 improve performance & speed - instead, we must bloat it beyond belief. It's the 'Vista' way! =)

Remember, if it doesn't take 2Ghz per track, it's CRAP! (what U morons will B saying in 10 years HAHAHA)

yes, its at the bottom of the pile. REAPER is just like goldwave and audacity.

now go!

we wish to love our inferior software.

this is getting funner and funner!

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:30 PM

U did not answer ANYTHING I asked U. I bet U don't know. The correct answer then is "I don't know". You're fukin' retarded.

Tell us about your favorite rap CD, since U hate talking about Reaper so much & have no ideas regarding it's functionality.

yes i answered you.

try podxt.

best out there if you arent able to use a software sim.

or vox tonelab.

although the editor software maynot work with windows75

reported.

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 04:31 PM

yes, its at the bottom of the pile. REAPER is just like goldwave and audacity.

now go!

we wish to love our inferior software.

this is getting funner and funner!

I did not say Reaper is like Goldwave or Audacity. I said if they have a pathetic anti-progress attitude like YOUR'S, where U CONSCIOUSLY REJECT ADVANCEMENT, then Reaper will B pushing ITSELF 2 the bottom of the pile.

U do not decide what gets into Reaper & what they spend time coding, so blow it out your ass, punk. I'll post good advices, & if they integrate them into the program, GREAT! :)

Oh, don't forget your copy of Window$ Vi$ta!

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:32 PM

I did not say Reaper is like Goldwave or Audacity. I said if they have a pathetic anti-progress attitude like YOUR'S, where U CONSCIOUSLY REJECT ADVANCEMENT, then Reaper will B pushing ITSELF 2 the bottom of the pile.

U do not decide what gets into Reaper & what they spend time coding, so blow it out your ass, punk. I'll post good advices, & if they integrate them into the program, GREAT! :)

Oh, don't forget your copy of Window$ Vi$ta!yes i love vista.

we all love vista here.

you dont ?

shame, its sooooo puuurty.

btw, soon reaper will be only vista compatible.

better leave while youre ahead.

and btw i think its pretty clear since beta 000s that we totally reject advancement. after all, reaper has been the smame program for almost 2 years now!!!!

so no reason to have a forward thinking lass like yourself still here :)

Ultragod

11-08-2007, 04:35 PM

yes i answered you.

try podxt.

best out there if you arent able to use a software sim.

or vox tonelab.

although the editor software maynot work with windows75

reported.

POD!!! POD!?!?!?! OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

U R kidding yes? This is a joke? Pod is the bane of tone - it's GARBAGE!!!!!!! OMG I had no idea stuff was this bad LOL!!!

Have U ears? Here's an idea - find me a clip that sounds similar 2 what I linked 2 earlier, & was done with a POD XT. If U can, I will kiss your smelly feat & buy one! :D So far, all I have heard done with POD is absolute crap - harsh, flat nonsense - like a guitar 'synth' or something - just awful.

I have heard some better stuff from softwares - I forget the name, but will post later if I find it. Didn't cut it tho' - much better than a POD it was, but still crap. Fuk what was the name? =(

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:36 PM

right.

thats what im saying you weirdo

pod and tonelab are the best it gets unless you are going for a software solution.

I didnt suggest any software because i doubt it would live up to your standards. Theyre all pretty first off.

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 04:42 PM

Your defeatest 'it's good like it is' nonsense gets civilization nowhere.

and where does your attitude take civilization?
you sir, are a stain in the drawers of life.

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:44 PM

U R lying. wow you ARE, like totally SMART!

They fixed the track height adjustment problem, added Re-Wire (as per MY suggestions MOCKING them about how 'Jacklab is doing it - Y can't U?', & also my many rants about how digital compressors all SUCK prompted them 2 develop recomp. Oh sure they'll deny it, but like many things, it was my idea.

whoa wait a sec... im really sorry man. I should have let you be. You obviously need to work this out.

It's not about me.

ooooooooook

I'm rude sure, but

no buts allowed after that !!!

my ideas get noticed, & long after they forget it was me & my rudeness that put it @ the front of their brain,

links where you injected these ideas into the collective coding consciousness of Justin and Christophe? Or was that telepathically?

X/Y axis pan/volume popup,
now THATs actually a cool idea

Blow it out your ass, punk.

aww but it was going swimmingly

Jae.Thomas

11-08-2007, 04:45 PM

Now tell me, what SOFTWARE (do I really need 2 spoon-feed your pathetic brain this question again?) - what SOFTWARE (SOFTWARE SOFTWARE SOFTWARE) can generate guitar tone most like the track I linked to?

again, ill spoon feed your answer.

none.

there are no ampsims that have a dos based interface.

Tallisman

11-08-2007, 04:50 PM

My attitude gets results :) I am result oriented. Sure, they 'kill the messenger', but the message lives on. After they forget about me, the idea is relevant, & remembered just the same, perhaps 2 live in a future version of Reaper, like ReWire (based on Jacklab rants I have had).

the only thing we will remember is that you are a truly unpleasant human being, or a very talented ape.

maybe before calling upon your insults and racial bullshit, go through your previous posts and compile a list (point form) of suggestions that you have made that will benefit Reaper.

I don't care enough to read all the way back. But I can't remember a single thing that struck me as "Oh! that is a good idea! perhaps you can remind us all of even on solid and good idea you forwarded.

many greetings

.t

gregh

11-08-2007, 04:53 PM

perfect, surely the job is now done.

Matt P

11-08-2007, 04:59 PM

That is not what I sell. It is a competitor site - cool pix tho =) Here's a really wild concept - how about you come up with some good ideas on how 2 steamline & improve Reaper & post them in this thread. Who knows, U might just learn something

Funny thing is here is a quote by you giving your address and phone number.
Unless you like using someelse's email address this you PETER.

http://www.neptuneholographics.com/sites/neptune_holographics_web_site/neptune_cylindrical.htm

"quote"

The sound is very clear (not distorted), tough (deep/solid), & 3D (holographic). You owe yourself a listen! E-Mail me or call and leave your phone number to arrange a demonstration in my home. My phone number is (805) 489-9309. My E-Mail is peter845@hotmail.com. My location is in Grover Beach - near San Luis Obispo, California. You are under no obligation to buy, but must show $2,000 cash at my door (the price of the system) if you want a demonstration, because I have a patent pending on this design (why they are not pictured here on the net) and am only interested in demonstrating them to serious customers.

"quote"

Seems also that your fine presonality shows through at another formum as well:

http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=8333&IBLOCK_ID=35

"Quote"

ANTI-[sic]ITE
Dear Mr. Shifrin,

Boo hoo - kike gets shot down trying 2 shove niggers up Russia's ass ["Reklama Review" Issue #247]. U fucking piece of shit. Better luck next time - hey maybe they'll start cutting jews out of pix as well, as they should in Russian itself.

Peter845@hotmail.com

Dear Mr. Peter845,

Thank you for your feedback. It's always heart-warming for us, and for our clients, to know that we at the eXile attract only the highest-quality readership. Meantime, your email has been forwarded to the intelligence unit of ZOG. They already kicked it back to us with a note: "We encourage peter845's harmless posturing, makes our slaves feel empowered and courageous while we suck them dry... l'haim, ZOG."

"quote"

So I guess this not you either, Right, yeah we believe you?

Sure seems to fit your MO huh?

But whatever any one say, your the reason that we should all use birth control and support the March for Dimes to stop birth defects.

Matt P:);):):p