Old 05-27-2012, 06:43 AM   #1
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O hai. I made a tune. Took me ages. No idea about the genre - sure it's instrumental, has guitar, bass, synths and changes time signature like four times. Mildly post-prog something probably.

It's called Carving in Calais (don't ask), and is fairly ambitious for me, since it's not in 120bpm and not all in 4/4. There's even 7/4 somewhere in there. If I count correctly. Not sure how it sounds, listened too much to it and now I'm not certain which parts I hate the most. If you have valuable advice about mix, mastering or anything else, fire away. My idea of mastering is "make sure you hear everything then slap some EQ and limiter on master track and call it a day" so it might need a lot of work there.

It's on soundcloud

http://soundcloud.com/zeekat/carving-in-calais

and youtube too, with some shiny stock footage hastily thrown together:



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Old 05-27-2012, 10:11 PM   #2
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I have no meaningful advice regarding mastering but I agree with your definition of what mastering is (in my case replace limiter with saturation and/ or multiband) so I probably shouldn't be one to offer any suggestions.

But the song sounds quite cool- reminds me a bit of ...Trail Of The Dead.
Guitars sound nice and although I generally dislike synths, I like that little riff repeating behind the guitars.

Kick drum could use more boom, boom though. It's a bit tap, tap.
But I am only listening through headphones at work atm.
It has some sweet time signature changes though. I likey!
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:45 PM   #3
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Kick drum could use more boom, boom though. It's a bit tap, tap.
But I am only listening through headphones at work atm.
It has some sweet time signature changes though. I likey!
Yeah, I don't know how to make it more oomphy. There's envelope shaper thingie in BFD eco that makes it a bit more distinct (once you turn the attack up a bit), but other than than, I could make it either clicky or muddy I probably need to read a bit about compression, super important topic I never really got.

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Old 05-28-2012, 03:45 PM   #4
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Yeah, I don't know how to make it more oomphy. There's envelope shaper thingie in BFD eco that makes it a bit more distinct (once you turn the attack up a bit), but other than than, I could make it either clicky or muddy I probably need to read a bit about compression, super important topic I never really got.

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Not sure what BFD is like, I use Addictive Drums, but I've found you can do much more shaping the drum sounds in tracks, rather than using the vsti's inserts.

Again, I ain't no expert but perhaps just have a fiddle with some eq.
Find the nice lower freq and give it a small boost. Cut around 400-500 if it gets muddy.
I can't really see any need to add anything other than eq and a bit of compression.
And just try raising the volume a db or 2
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Probably routing everything to external (outside the BFD plugin that is) effects would be more flexible, but I like the tidyness and convenience of having everything on one track. Lazy isn't it.

Experimented with making the kick louder too - but then it stood out like a sore thumb for my ears, so I've decided it better be too timid . In hindsight, not a very good decision. That's what you get when you have only one pair of ears I guess.

Will try to apply your advice when mixing the next tune. And read about the multiband compression too - might be a key to making things loud without being boooomy (how people do that?).
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:16 PM   #6
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Find the nice lower freq and give it a small boost. Cut around 400-500 if it gets muddy.

I can't really see any need to add anything other than eq and a bit of compression.
good overall - but yeah it needs some low-end eq tweakage...
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Low effort necrobump & update:

Remixed the thing, shaving a bit of the low end, compressing crunchy guitars more because they were poking out a bit in places and replacing the drum track. I can't swap audio on youtube above, it has to stay in the old version as I don't want to reupload and lose my whopping 180 views.

https://soundcloud.com/zeekat/carving-in-calais

I think I made it crispier (learned that high passing exists in last 5 years), but oddly that bassy soup of the original (and the video) still sounds oddly pleasing to my ears. Go figure.
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Missed this first time around, well done. I ran the youtube version bc I wanted to watch some video. Cool riffing and ambient, you do it really well. These would be way cool movie soundtracks imo
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