Old 12-02-2010, 01:07 PM   #41
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Dear Mr Tie

I am a self confessed cut and paster ....

I'm looking through your pdf going oohhh theres some nice code I could paste into my theme and tweak away, but alas Foxit can't cut it.....

Is there any way you could convert the example codes into a .txt so I can fulfill my craving for instant gratification...

Thanks Jed
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:15 PM   #42
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What do you mean it can't cut it? Do you have the text selection tool selected in Foxit? I have it working here...


Code:
clear tcp.*
set tcp.size [258 72]
set tcp.trackidx [1 3 20 16 0 0 0 0]
set tcp.foldercomp [2 3 20 20 0 0 0 0]
; meter, recmon, recmode row
set tcp.meter h>=66 [66 46 188 20 0 0 1 0] [0]
set tcp.recmon h>=66 [24 47 20 20 0 0 0 0] [0]
set tcp.recmode h>=66 [44 47 20 20 0 0 0 0] [0] 
; vol/pan labels
rect vollabel_row1 w>650 [23 7 36 13 1 0 1 0] [0] 
rect panlabel_row1 w>650 [62 7 30 13 1 0 1 0] [0]
set tcp.volume.label h<49 vollabel_row1 w<230 [0] [185 28 36 13 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.pan.label h<49 panlabel_row1 w<230 [0] [225 28 30 13 1 0 1 0]
; pan fader
rect pan_row1 w>500 w>650 [90 3 -67 20 .65 0 1 0] [90 3 2 20 .75 0 1 0] [0]
set tcp.pan w<230 [0] h<49 pan_row1 [131 24 51 20 0.75 0 1 0]
; vol fader
rect vol_row1 w>330 w>500 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .75 0] [85 3 7 20 0.25 0 1 0] [0]
rect vol_row1 w>650 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .65 0] vol_row1
set tcp.volume h<49 vol_row1 w<230 [22 24 233 20 0 0 1 0] [22 24 109 20 0 0 0.75 0]
; track name label
rect label_small w<100 [26 3 226 15 0 0 1 0] [26 3 182 15 0 0 1 0]
rect label_2row w<230 label_small [26 3 68 15 0 0 1 0]
set tcp.label h>=49 label_2row w<=330 label_2row [26 3 38 15 0 0 .25 0]
; recarm button
set tcp.recarm h<49 w<=330 [0] [64 3 20 20 .25 0 .25 0] [2 24 20 20 0 0 0 0] 
; other buttons
set tcp.folder w<230 [0] [98 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.io w<230 [0] [118 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.env w<230 [0] [138 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.fx w<230 [0] [158 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.fxbyp w<230 [0] [178 3 14 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.phase w<230 [0] [192 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.mute w<100 [0] [212 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.solo w<100 [0] [232 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:40 PM   #43
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hi,

just been reading the WALTER Themers Guide. Was it White Tie who wrote the Guide? I'm very impressed by the way you have explained the functions. I have previously programmed in BASIC and machine code (chip level), and this is very reminiscent of the logic and I think I will have a go later to modify themes, something I had not thought I could do until this prog. Also, was WALTER written by COCKOS team?? If so, nice to see a company developing a sort of language just for their own DAW... dave
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:52 PM   #44
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What do you mean it can't cut it? Do you have the text selection tool selected in Foxit? I have it working here...


Code:
clear tcp.*
set tcp.size [258 72]
set tcp.trackidx [1 3 20 16 0 0 0 0]
set tcp.foldercomp [2 3 20 20 0 0 0 0]
; meter, recmon, recmode row
set tcp.meter h>=66 [66 46 188 20 0 0 1 0] [0]
set tcp.recmon h>=66 [24 47 20 20 0 0 0 0] [0]
set tcp.recmode h>=66 [44 47 20 20 0 0 0 0] [0] 
; vol/pan labels
rect vollabel_row1 w>650 [23 7 36 13 1 0 1 0] [0] 
rect panlabel_row1 w>650 [62 7 30 13 1 0 1 0] [0]
set tcp.volume.label h<49 vollabel_row1 w<230 [0] [185 28 36 13 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.pan.label h<49 panlabel_row1 w<230 [0] [225 28 30 13 1 0 1 0]
; pan fader
rect pan_row1 w>500 w>650 [90 3 -67 20 .65 0 1 0] [90 3 2 20 .75 0 1 0] [0]
set tcp.pan w<230 [0] h<49 pan_row1 [131 24 51 20 0.75 0 1 0]
; vol fader
rect vol_row1 w>330 w>500 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .75 0] [85 3 7 20 0.25 0 1 0] [0]
rect vol_row1 w>650 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .65 0] vol_row1
set tcp.volume h<49 vol_row1 w<230 [22 24 233 20 0 0 1 0] [22 24 109 20 0 0 0.75 0]
; track name label
rect label_small w<100 [26 3 226 15 0 0 1 0] [26 3 182 15 0 0 1 0]
rect label_2row w<230 label_small [26 3 68 15 0 0 1 0]
set tcp.label h>=49 label_2row w<=330 label_2row [26 3 38 15 0 0 .25 0]
; recarm button
set tcp.recarm h<49 w<=330 [0] [64 3 20 20 .25 0 .25 0] [2 24 20 20 0 0 0 0] 
; other buttons
set tcp.folder w<230 [0] [98 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.io w<230 [0] [118 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.env w<230 [0] [138 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.fx w<230 [0] [158 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.fxbyp w<230 [0] [178 3 14 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.phase w<230 [0] [192 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.mute w<100 [0] [212 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
set tcp.solo w<100 [0] [232 3 20 20 1 0 1 0]
Thanks Ed

I didn't realize Foxit reader could do that.
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Old 12-02-2010, 01:57 PM   #45
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I'm reading the themer's guide right now. Good stuff, White Tie. Thanks. Suggestions:

- Mention the use of 'Theme uses image resources', to save n00b themers like myself some grief.
- Make the code in the PDF the same as what the end user will see. Currently, in the 3.0 theme, there's very little code at all, not like what is shown in the PDF at all.

It's a little hard to follow along when taking these two things into consideration.
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Old 12-02-2010, 02:32 PM   #46
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I get it. This is kinda like HTML/CSS for Reaper. Groovy, dad.
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Is there a place we can find the Default v4 pngs? I'd love to swipe that tiny little folder button.
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I have another question, if someone could help. I'm trying to swipe the tiny little folder icon from the V4 default theme and place it in basically the same location in my modified classic theme. Right now I'm using a similar size place holder. This means that when the track is minimized, the button overlaps with the track label field in the same way that it overlaps the recarm button in the default theme. In the default theme, I noticed that the folder button seems to be on top of recarm button, and so clicking in the overlapping area activates the folder button rather than the recarm button. But in my theme, the label field is on top. Can I change this?
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Have you tried putting the "set tcp.*" text for the folder button before the label text in rtconfig?
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Have you tried putting the "set tcp.*" text for the folder button before the label text in rtconfig?
Yeah, I've it both ways, no bones.
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Is there a place we can find the Default v4 pngs? I'd love to swipe that tiny little folder button.
Unzip Default_4.0.ReaperThemeZip
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Unzip Default_4.0.ReaperThemeZip
There aren't any pngs in there, just a text config file.
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There aren't any pngs in there, just a text config file.
Strange, I have the pngs here after unzipping that file.
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Strange, I have the pngs here after unzipping that file.
Ok, I've got them now, Peazip had betrayed me, thanks.
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I'm looking forward to the LVG bit. I hope it's what I think it is. Need to have a look at the WALTER api.
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Sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong thread, but how I do to change the color of the numbers of the tracks?

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Make a line in Walter like this:

set mcp.trackidx.color [r g b] (replace rgb values.......I think it's rgb anyway )
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Make a line in Walter like this:

set mcp.trackidx.color [r g b] (replace rgb values.......I think it's rgb anyway )
Thanks a lot man!
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:51 AM   #59
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A big Thank You White Tie for the excellent WALTER Themers Guide!

Things are starting to click from the read and using the examples - really awesome stuff!

I'm definitely one that's getting hooked and excited on how many doors WALTER has opened. It truly seems endless to possibilities.

Still a bit overwhelmed, but the learning, experimenting and reachable results are/will be well worth it!

Starting to notice a lot of theming goodies. Loving the Default 4.O and Layouts concept!

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Does WALTER allow adding a STEREO/MONO button like the master has to a normal track? I know there might be a keyboard action to do this (change the output from stereo to mono on a stereo track) but having a button like the master track has would be a great option in my opinion. Curious...
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No you can't do that currently. Use the width control.
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Thanks Tim... I guess just using the button on the master to do some quick mono compatibility mixing would probably be the best approach anyway. I just remember using another DAW years ago that had this ability on every track, not just on the master. Thanks!
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can WALTER force the mini VU meter display style even if it's fatter than 12 pixels?
(the style that doesn't put numbers and borders on the VU meters)


also what does "rect" mean?

eg: "rect vollabel_row1 w>650 [23 7 36 13 1 0 1 0] [0]"

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i've concluded WALTER needs to be easier to use. I've restarted 4 times and have worked on configuring my TCP from 7pm to 12pm with nothing to show for it because of things like this:

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rect vol_row1 w>330 w>500 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .75 0] [85 3 7 20 0.25 0 1 0] [0]
rect vol_row1 w>650 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .65 0] vol_row1
set tcp.volume h<49 vol_row1 w<230 [22 24 233 20 0 0 1 0] [22 24 109 20 0 0 0.75 0]
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I think its a bit premature to say walter needs to change; I'm learning all this from a position of total code ignorance, I may be a few weeks ahead of you with walter but, on the other hand, I didn't get a guide document. Stick with it, the mist does clear. Promise.

I don't use rect, but think of it as being the same as set. He's making a variable called 'vol_row1' and then calling it to be used when h<49.

I am now going to suggest altering some code that was written by Justin Frankel. Justin F***ing Frankel. I've either just grown a massive pair of balls, or I'm quite staggeringly foolish Next week : off to the Louvre to fix up that crap bit on the Mona Lisa. ...anyway, here we go...

Code:
rect vol_row1 w>330 w>500 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .75 0] [85 3 7 20 0.25 0 1 0] [0]
rect vol_row1 w>650 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .65 0] vol_row1
I (graphic designer and code novice) would have written as this:
Code:
set vol_row1 w>330 w>500 w>650 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .65 0] [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .75 0] [85 3 7 20 0.25 0 1 0] [0]
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You are probably right. I'm just venting after a long night of little progress.

Any idea on forcing the thin vertical meter style even if it's fatter than 12px?
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Can you reword the question? Because at the moment I'm not following your point; You want a thin meter, in a thin meter style, but ...er... fatter. Um?
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Can you reword the question? Because at the moment I'm not following your point; You want a thin meter, in a thin meter style, but ...er... fatter. Um?
I do better than that. screenshot time!

This is nearly the way I want it to look:
set tcp.meter [290 4 12 64 1 0 1 1]


I just want it a little fatter. but when we go from 12px wide to 14px wide it does this:
set tcp.meter [290 4 14 64 1 0 1 1]


I don't want that extra business on there when I make them a little wider. no numbers or thicker borders. I want it to look just like the first screenshot, but a little wider. I want to fill up the entire darker green faux-container that it's in.

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I'd like that too actually.

I'm annoyed at seeing all the dB numbers, which I can turn OFF with a preferences switch (show dB numbers or something).

What I cannot turn off are the peak indicators. With meters this small, they're actually obstructing the meters themselves at lower TCP heights.

Since this is rather special to the vertical meters on the TCP, perhaps this should be a special kind of vertical meter.

It is a small nitpick though, literally.
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We don't have control over these things at the moment. Along with all the other things we don't have control over, I would like it if we did Slowly slowly catchy monkey...
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I'd just like to say another thanks mr tie for the Guide, it certainly a good aid to anyone picking this up and very easy to skip through to the relevant part with good clear examples

I think one of the hardest things with walter is it gives you so much freedom ,it takes a fairly long time to tweak items around and then you find with all that freedom things don't quite turn out how you hoped . So its back to shifting digits around ..... note should learn to draw first..........
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You can turn the dB scales off globally in Preferences->Appearance->VU Meters/Faders. Would be better if it could be WALTERed though.
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You can turn the dB scales off globally in Preferences->Appearance->VU Meters/Faders. Would be better if it could be WALTERed though.
...if Walter could toggle the '-inf' on the VUbar.. And the SOLO and MUTE text on the VUbars... ?
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...if Walter could toggle the '-inf' on the VUbar.. And the SOLO and MUTE text on the VUbars... ?
We just need WALTER to control everything really. I expect it will grow and grow during the prerelease phase though.
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I am now going to suggest altering some code that was written by Justin Frankel. Justin F***ing Frankel. I've either just grown a massive pair of balls, or I'm quite staggeringly foolish Next week : off to the Louvre to fix up that crap bit on the Mona Lisa. ...anyway, here we go...

Code:
rect vol_row1 w>330 w>500 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .75 0] [85 3 7 20 0.25 0 1 0] [0]
rect vol_row1 w>650 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .65 0] vol_row1
I (graphic designer and code novice) would have written as this:
Code:
set vol_row1 w>330 w>500 w>650 [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .65 0] [85 3 5 20 0.25 0 .75 0] [85 3 7 20 0.25 0 1 0] [0]
This stumped me for ages , I think the default lists are a lot harder to understand than they need to due to the use of "react" , I still can't read the first line of code hear ware as the second makes perfect sense. We have to remember most themes don't want to get bogged down in learning more code than is absolutely necessary.

Also it would be nice if the manual included the bit on "?recarm as this pops up a lot
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hi i'm trying to make a Grey version of the default theme & i'm stuck trying
to find the blue element at the bottom of the bpm on the transport bar?

[IMG]http://img225.**************/img225/4840/greend.png[/IMG]

zoomed with color settings

[IMG]http://img443.**************/img443/869/green20.png[/IMG]

this is the theme so far

http://img695.**************/img695/4328/grayscreen.png


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quick question from a n00b:

Is WALTER a method for laying out ALL bits of Reaper (tcp mcp bigclock transport etc) or can it only deal with specific parts of Reaper? I would LOVE to be able to control the layout and content of the transport and the big clock.
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Subz, the mod you are designing is very good. I have one suggestion though.

On the Piano roll you could make the rows for the "black-white" keys just slightly different in color. Now they stick out too much INHO.
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Subz, the mod you are designing is very good. I have one suggestion though.

On the Piano roll you could make the rows for the "black-white" keys just slightly different in color. Now they stick out too much INHO.

Thanks & yea no problem. That's the easy stuff

When/if finished it will also come in a v3 version with the pink line fixed on the vu meters

There are lots of pngs for me to edit still but I'm stuck on finding that sneaky bpm element

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