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01-16-2023, 06:12 PM
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v6.73+dev0116a - January 16 2023
v6.73+dev0116a - January 16 2023
- * Includes feature branch: mouse modifier small ID action binding fix
- * Includes feature branch: fixed lane comping
- * Includes feature branch: shortcut import/export improvements and multiple main keyboard sections
- * Includes feature branch: improve samplerate change behavior when loading projects
- * Includes feature branch: VST3 re-map of parameter IDs due to restartComponent
- * Includes feature branch: AU parameter list change notification support
- * Includes feature branch: MIDI editor screenset improvements
- * Includes feature branch: routing matrix/track wiring input activity indicators
- * Includes feature branch: preview item selection for grouped tracks
- * Includes feature branch: VST3 per-channel silence reporting compatibility option
- * Includes feature branch: better .RfxChain media explorer and clipboard integration
- * Includes feature branch: ReaReaRea timestretch mode
- * Includes feature branch: GR metering as embedded UI for third-party VSTs
- * Includes feature branch: JSFX new features and EEL2 preprocessor
- * Includes feature branch: render dialog statistics display improvements
- * Includes feature branch: media item fixed lanes
- + Accessibility: improve ordering of controls in GetUserInputs() API
- + Media explorer: do not allow shortcuts panel to be resized to exactly zero [t=215631]
- + Media item lanes: add mouse modifier/action to split media items at comp area edges
- + Media item lanes: comp areas respect ripple edit
- + Mouse modifiers: fix crashes when deleting track from media item click/razor edit click
- + Preferences: add setting in Preferences/Seeking to seek playback when clicking on media items
- # Media item lanes: allow setting a comp area to editable when there are only two lanes
- # Media item lanes: duplicate and sync existing comp areas when duplicating a lane
- # Media item lanes: fix action to force sync comp areas skipping unsynced areas
- # Media item lanes: improve interaction between item edits on comping lane and editable comp areas [p=2635762]
- # Media item lanes: improve undo behavior after item edits when comp areas are set to editable
- # Media item lanes: when creating a comp area via right-drag, if no comping lane is set, create a new lane for comping
- # Mouse modifiers: remove flag to seek when selecting items via click
- # Recording: fix looped take recording in non-laned tracks
This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.
Changelog - Pre-Releases
Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode
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01-16-2023, 06:24 PM
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Hi @Devs
Typing error. See Gif
Best regards,
Last edited by Edison; 10-05-2023 at 04:06 PM.
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01-17-2023, 02:09 AM
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01-17-2023, 02:12 AM
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01-17-2023, 02:18 AM
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01-17-2023, 02:32 AM
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01-17-2023, 03:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_t
v6.73+dev0116a - January 16 2023[*]+ Media item lanes: add mouse modifier/action to split media items at comp area edges
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Awesome thanks a lot Schwa!
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt_t
v6.73+dev0116a - January 16 2023[*]# Media item lanes: when creating a comp area via right-drag, if no comping lane is set, create a new lane for comping
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Very useful to start comping right away!
Noticed a small delay on updating the comp lane when I duplicate inside edit area.
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01-17-2023, 03:31 AM
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Not sure if it's the right place to report, if not please delete, but having to do with editing in lanes the mouse modifier to adjust start/end doesn't work when the options loop source for imported and recorded items is off.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=274618
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01-17-2023, 04:24 AM
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Small nitpick
The line indicator next to the number doesn't show up with left click so we have to drag the mouse. But when we click on a number it happens instantly.
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01-17-2023, 04:42 AM
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I guess it should remove RE and trim the item?
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01-17-2023, 05:13 AM
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01-17-2023, 05:24 AM
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Could also be nice to have some form of visual indication that a lane contains comp areas, e.g. square lane header buttons.
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01-17-2023, 05:30 AM
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Please add a mouse modifier for "Fixed lane header button" to delete lane (including items).
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01-17-2023, 06:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FeedTheCat
Could also be nice to have some form of visual indication that a lane contains comp areas, e.g. square lane header buttons.
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Agreed and to auto-name newly created comp lanes by default to C1, C2...
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01-17-2023, 07:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagelis
I guess it should remove RE and trim the item?
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I'd say the existing behavior is correct. If a comp area is set to sync, the contents of the source lane should always override whatever edits happen in the comping lane.
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01-17-2023, 08:10 AM
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I'm pianist and I use fixed lanes option to record me (with one MIDI editor per project and "open all MIDI on the same track" because with this option Reaper does't lag and because I want to edit the items which have not been opened).
I use fixed lanes record mode rather than "creates new takes" because, it's better. I can argue if you want.
But I have got a big issue: if I want to edit one MIDI item I can't only see the clicked item. I see the MIDI notes of all the items which are below or above!
It would be great to add an option to fix that!
I can't edit that!
Last edited by ovnis; 01-17-2023 at 08:17 AM.
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01-17-2023, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovnis
]if I want to edit one MIDI item I can't only see the clicked item. I see the MIDI notes of all the items which are below or above!
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In the MIDI editor, if you enable contents / track list, you can choose which media items to view or edit.
It may make sense for REAPER to display MIDI items in non-playing lane the same way muted items are displayed, not sure...
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01-17-2023, 08:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
I'd say the existing behavior is correct. If a comp area is set to sync, the contents of the source lane should always override whatever edits happen in the comping lane.
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Indeed
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01-17-2023, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
In the MIDI editor, if you enable contents / track list, you can choose which media items to view or edit.
It may make sense for REAPER to display MIDI items in non-playing lane the same way muted items are displayed, not sure...
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The issue is:
each time I want to edit a midi item whose midi notes are mixed with another item, I'm going to have to do some more clicks, which can be painful if I make lots of edit.
THe issue with muted note is: we can't know if the muted note is inside the clicked MIDI item or an another item. And if we want to add a new note or edit a note on the muted note it can be hard...
If a note is on a muted note It can be hard, too...
And the track list panel takes some place, too. The MIDI notes area is reduced.
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01-17-2023, 08:59 AM
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If I have chosen "open all MIDI on the same track" and not "open all MIDI on the project" it's to avoid the muted notes issues.
So, why I would like to see this issue again with fixed lanes?!
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01-17-2023, 09:03 AM
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What should happen if you double click on a MIDI item on a non-playing lane? The items need to be editable, so it seems to me like the only behavior that makes sense is to treat them similarly to muted media items.
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01-17-2023, 09:18 AM
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01-17-2023, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
It may make sense for REAPER to display MIDI items in non-playing lane the same way muted items are displayed, not sure...
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The only thing I would like to avoid with "open all MIDI on the same track" is to display MIDI notes of items which are below or above the selected item (inside a track with fixed lanes).
If we want to edit theses items, we selected them with double click or with another way.
After that, if we want to edit a muted track, it can be great to know what notes are muted inside the MIDI item. If all notes are displayed like muted we can't know. Plus, we can't use the note color to know the note pitch if they are muted.
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01-17-2023, 09:21 AM
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01-17-2023, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovnis
The only thing I would like to avoid with "open all MIDI on the same track" is to display MIDI notes of items which are below or above the selected item (inside a track with fixed lanes).
If we want to edit theses items, we selected them with double click or with another way.
After that, if we want to edit a muted track, it can be great to know what notes are muted inside the MIDI item. If all notes are displayed like muted we can't know. Plus, we can't use the note color to know the note pitch if they are muted.
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I'm going to have to agree here -- you'd go nuts if you saw all of your MIDI takes stacked on top of one another, too.
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01-17-2023, 10:12 AM
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01-17-2023, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sockmonkey72
I'm going to have to agree here -- you'd go nuts if you saw all of your MIDI takes stacked on top of one another, too.
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Yeah not sure what this would be useful for?
It'd be like the comp lane displaying every single take from every lane, all overlapping each other.
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01-17-2023, 10:42 AM
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01-17-2023, 10:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
It'd be like the comp lane displaying every single take from every lane, all overlapping each other.
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Yeah. Not sure how treating it as muted helps here.
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01-17-2023, 11:35 AM
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auto-creation of comp lanes not working with multiple grouped tracks
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01-17-2023, 02:09 PM
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An other good reason to be able to paste in to a specific lane:
When i record music which is not clic based, lanes are very helpfull to stack a couple of take, but all the specific comping functions are not ideal because although the takes might roughly line up, if you comp with the current tools, you then have to do a lot of work to readjsut things in the comp lane, wasting quite a bit of time.
If you could copy razor areas or full items in your source lanes, and then paste them in to a specific lane to assemble it would be a lot easier.
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01-17-2023, 04:26 PM
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01-17-2023, 04:28 PM
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01-17-2023, 05:06 PM
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It would be great to have double left click for Fixed lane header button (mouse modifiers)!
Like that:
one click on the button: "play only this lane"
double clicks: "Comp into lane"
And it would be great to have a mouse modifier for fixed lane !
Like that:
one click on the fixed track: "play only this lane"
double clicks: "Comp into lane"
Last edited by ovnis; 01-17-2023 at 05:44 PM.
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01-17-2023, 09:05 PM
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i know that most of the attention has been on the fixed lanes, but has anyone found how to enable the embedded GR metering for third party compressors?
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01-17-2023, 09:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mykrobinson
i know that most of the attention has been on the fixed lanes, but has anyone found how to enable the embedded GR metering for third party compressors?
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Right click it and Enable Embedded in TCP/MCP. (or whatever the wording is)
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01-17-2023, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
Right click it and Enable Embedded in TCP/MCP. (or whatever the wording is)
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for some reason, it isn't showing up for me. Wonder if it showing is dependent on something from the plugin in question.
Also noticing my plugins are showing as bridged, for some reason. Perhaps i will just update to the next dev release, wondering if i accidentally grabbed the 32 bit version.
I'll install another portable version, making sure that i grab the right architecture, next time.
You happen to have a screenshot of how it looks? Wondering if it just shows an inverted meter lane beside the primary meters, like in other unnamed DAWs
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01-17-2023, 09:26 PM
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i did accidentally have the 32 bit version installed, but with x64 and no longer bridging, i still don't have the option for a lot of the plugins i like. The screenshot here is trying to show the meter for IK Multimedia Bus Compressor, for example
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01-18-2023, 03:02 AM
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The particular plugin has to support the VST3 extension to report gain reduction to the host.
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