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03-17-2017, 06:56 PM
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Use Reaper as VST host on other computer
Hello everyone,
I have read some things about this on the forum, but nothing really recent. So, I want to know if I can use Reaper as a VST host on another computer that I network to my main one still using Reaper to record and use those VST's?
Would that require special software to share over Ethernet cables?
Thank you in advance,
Dee
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03-17-2017, 09:26 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Hi
You can do it with ReaMote.
run reaper in Reamote Slave mode on slave computer.
windows > start > reaper > Reamote Slave
on master computer goto
Preferences > Reamote > Enable reamote processing/ Auto Search
It's a little complicating to explain here.
Read manual and wiki
24 - Using REAPER with Other Applications and Devices
24.9 ReaMote
http://wiki.cockos.com/wiki/index.ph..._configuration
for quick briefing watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXvzlcB6u6g
Last edited by Outboarder; 03-18-2017 at 03:40 AM.
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03-18-2017, 12:23 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
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See this thread:
-> http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=187214
and express your support there to make it "pop up" again, if you feel like.
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 03-18-2017 at 12:36 AM.
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03-18-2017, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Outboarder
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Really a shortcut
Of course with using a "remote subproject" it's not so exceptionally fast to set up, but it avoids the shortcomings such as inability to use sample libraries (at least I did not get it running with ReaMote, same with other forum members I discussed with) and the need to install the plugin on both sites, which of course is a severe licensing problem.
-Michael
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03-18-2017, 04:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Of course with using a "remote subproject" it's not so exceptionally fast to set up, but it avoids the shortcomings such as inability to use sample libraries (at least I did not get it running with ReaMote, same with other forum members I discussed with) and the need to install the plugin on both sites, which of course is a severe licensing problem.
-Michael
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Yea, I did it once, UAD and Ilok, PITA.
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03-18-2017, 05:47 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Adelaide, South Australia (originally from Geelong)
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Hi Dee,
If you are looking for an option to host vst instruments on another computer while using your main computer to record using REAPER, you might want to check out a program I recently discovered called Cantabile. It is designed from the ground up specifically to turn a PC into a vst host you can treat like a hardware synth.
REAPER can of course be used for this purpose on another PC too but I've found Cantabile to be more efficient for this purpose.
There's a free version and two paid versions. I purchased the first paid version which also allows me to record my performances as both MIDI and audio and then import into REAPER later.
Have a look here... https://www.cantabilesoftware.com/about
Brad, the developer of Cantabile is extremely responsive with support too. Reminds me a lot of the Cockos team.
On another note (pun half intended), I have been listening to some of your music and I really like this one....
https://allihoopa.com/s/YkzMCwkv
I got into Bobby Mcferrin while I was studying jazz many years ago and I can certainly hear the inspiration there.
What did you use for the solo? Was that vocals layered with a synth patch (or perhaps woodwind) or did you process a vocal through a synth perhaps? I love the texture you achieved with that sound. Very organic and interesting.
Nice work.
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03-18-2017, 05:52 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2016
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Thank you to Boa Sorte and Outboarder
Thank you guys for your response.
My hungrier VST's already have two licenses allowed, but considering I have to install them on both computers and the fact that I'd have to invest some money to bring the possible slave up to the VST's standards (not enough Ram and outdated Windows Vista) I think I will only use my main computer until I get the money to buy a better one and then consider another slave/master setup.
I am literally bootstrapping from scratch with discarded computers and was contemplating making the best of those resources... Although you never know, I might find another treasure in the recycle bin...
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03-18-2017, 06:08 AM
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Humbling compliments
On another note (pun half intended), I have been listening to some of your music and I really like this one....
https://allihoopa.com/s/YkzMCwkv
I got into Bobby Mcferrin while I was studying jazz many years ago and I can certainly hear the inspiration there.
What did you use for the solo? Was that vocals layered with a synth patch (or perhaps woodwind) or did you process a vocal through a synth perhaps? I love the texture you achieved with that sound. Very organic and interesting.
Nice work.[/QUOTE]
Hello ReaDave,
Thank you very much for your kind words. In regards to 'Cantabile', I think my answer to Boa Sorte and Outboarder will help you understand why I will not try at the moment, but I will take note (there's another pun, haha).
To tell you the truth, my vocals on the song you are referring to were simply processed through my lips... sophisticated synth if there is one! I do use some inside effects included in the 'Take" app but this one was applied to the whole vocal track, so it is not specific to the "mouth sax or trumpet".
I remember the first time I heard Bobby McFerrin, I didn't really like it ( I am a trumpet player and I thought it sounded fake ). But later on, I tried to copy and realized it wasn't that easy and that the guy had skills!
I was expecting a polarized reaction to the track on Alihoopa, but I think it is my most liked one!!!
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03-18-2017, 06:15 AM
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Would love to...
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Originally Posted by mschnell
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Hello,
I would love to express my support, but I must admit this is way above my head as I am still a beginner.
I get a sense of what you ask, but I'd have no idea how to support other than saying:
Yeah... I want this thingy too!
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03-18-2017, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Deelanee
Hello ReaDave,
Thank you very much for your kind words. In regards to 'Cantabile', I think my answer to Boa Sorte and Outboarder will help you understand why I will not try at the moment, but I will take note (there's another pun, haha).
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I'm actually in a similar boat to you in that regard, although my two PC systems are quite similar processing power wise and are both running Windows 10.
I recently started work on one of my biggest personal projects to date (a double album) and was looking at building a new PC (I still am considering that option).
I have been doing all my recording, mixing and mastering work on a 2012 model Sony Vaio laptop with an i5 CPU but I really need more power and flexibility for the new album. That lead me to digging out my older DAW desktop PC which runs a Q9450 quad core CPU. I ran some tests and discovered that the older (by around four years) quad core was slightly more powerful than the i5 so I've been switching the primary DAW tasks back to that system.
Cutting a long story short, I've pretty much decided to run the i5 primarily as a VST host for my software synths and have set up Cantabile for that task, thus spreading the CPU load across the two systems. In doing so, I can set higher buffers and higher latency on the main DAW PC for more CPU power during recording and mixing whilst still maintaining very low latency on the VST synth host system for recording new parts in the middle of complex mixes.
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Originally Posted by Deelanee
To tell you the truth, my vocals on the song you are referring to were simply processed through my lips... sophisticated synth if there is one! I do use some inside effects included in the 'Take" app but this one was applied to the whole vocal track, so it is not specific to the "mouth sax or trumpet".
I remember the first time I heard Bobby McFerrin, I didn't really like it ( I am a trumpet player and I thought it sounded fake ). But later on, I tried to copy and realized it wasn't that easy and that the guy had skills!
I was expecting a polarized reaction to the track on Alihoopa, but I think it is my most liked one!!!
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That's very cool Dee. I love what you've achieved with your "mouth synth"! I'd love to hear you do more of that kind of experimentation. It seems you have a bit of a niche in that area that others also seem to like.
My first instrument (the first one I learned anyway) is also trumpet. These days though, I don't play it much and keyboards (piano and synth mostly) have become my primary instrument. I've been into synthesizers now for around three decades, collecting hardware and experimenting with software so I enjoyed your "synth galore" YouTube video too.
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03-18-2017, 02:10 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Krefeld, Germany
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReaDave
REAPER can of course be used for this purpose on another PC too but I've found Cantabile to be more efficient for this purpose.
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I do in fact use Reaper mainly for this issue (live Playing). I did consider Cantabile before switching to Reaper. While Cantabile is easier to use, Reaper is a lot more versatile.
But regarding the OP's question it does not help that much.
- you need to connect the two PCs via Network. Here you need additional software to pass Midi and Audio to and fro.
- you need to compensate the latency introduced by the remote installation and by the network
- you would be limited to render in realtime hence you can't ever use the full calculation power, but need to leave a great performance headroom to avoid crackling
- you need two Reaper licenses (not that much of a porblem) (see the Feature Request Thread I mentioned above)
-Michael
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03-18-2017, 02:14 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deelanee
Yeah... I want this thingy too!
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Do so. It will bring the thread back to visibility. This might help to get the devs interested.
-Michael
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