Old 01-25-2016, 11:51 AM   #1
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Okay, I've got my mix finished for the radio play I've been working on. I've included a sample here.

I ran it by the director who says the level is a bit low. Now I rendered this as an MP3 through TB Barricade with the input at +9db and brickwall at -3db. I'm still uncertain how brickwall limiters increase perceived loudness without my pushing up the master fader.

How can I increase the perceived loudness without messing with the mix?

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The file is peaking at -12dB, not -3!
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The file is peaking at -12dB, not -3!
I don't understand, sorry. This is where it gets complicated for me.

I don't think I get how TB Barricade free works.

Do I simply increase the master fader to -3db? I thought the limiter did that?
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Set ceiling to -0,5 to -1db,
then adjust input gain to taste.
Or if you just want clean gain, set input gain just so there's not gain-reduction on the meter.
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Set ceiling to -0,5 to -1db,
then adjust input gain to taste.
Or if you just want clean gain, set input gain just so there's not gain-reduction on the meter.
Is this in the plugin?

So the ceiling is the fader on the right of the UI?

The input is on the left?

I assumed as much. What about the release setting?
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I don't work in broadcast so take this with a grain of salt, but you probably need to know what loudness level the director wants to see because there are industry standards.

Your track has:
-23.5 LUFS, Range: 6.0 LU, True peak: -11.7 dBTP

This means that your LUFS (average loudness) is pretty much in line with broadcast standards which I believe is -23 LUFS. The dynamic range is 6dB and true peak is -11.7.

This means that you could normalize your master which would bring True Peak to 0dB and LUFS to 11.8 without compromising the signal in any way (no compression or limiting and DR is still 6dB), but it's unlikely that you'd want to make it that loud due to industry standards.

So, if you can't get a good answer from your director other than to make it a bit louder, maybe just increase the gain in Barricade to +16 which will give you a 7dB boost and a true peak of 4.7 (still under the 3dB threshold you set in Barricade so Barricade won't actually be doing anything at all other than adding gain to the signal... no limiting, no loss in dynamic range).
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So the ceiling is the fader on the right of the UI?
"Out ceiling" knob


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The input is on the left?
Yes.


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What about the release setting?
Leave at default or adjust to taste.
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I don't understand, sorry. This is where it gets complicated for me.

I don't think I get how TB Barricade free works.

Do I simply increase the master fader to -3db? I thought the limiter did that?
Master fader = 0dB, Limiter ceiling/brickwall say -0.3dB (with ISP enabled).
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