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06-24-2008, 12:21 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Firefox 3 - now!
getfirefox.com
for everybody who enjoys firefox 1 or 2: version 3 is fresh out of the oven and delicious! loads of cool stuff like the new "awesome bar" and one-click bookmarking without menu cluttering.
possibly humanized, the guys who made enso, which i can only recommend btw, had something to do with those new features.
for everybody who does not yet use firefox: so that's YOU! i've always been wondering: 'who the hell are those people?'. now go get FF3!
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06-24-2008, 12:25 PM
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Tried it, it killed my absolutely-must-have TabMixPlus add on. I wouldn't even use Firefox without it, I'd go back to Avant, and I had an horrible time trying to find and download FF 2.0.0.14 to go back to it.
So, just beware that your beloved add on might not work.
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06-24-2008, 12:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Till
version 3 is fresh out of the oven
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i'm already using it since a week or so!?
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06-24-2008, 12:30 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, Till! Regards,
- Jonas
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06-24-2008, 12:31 PM
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Ya, me too. Still waiting on a couple of add-ons to be updated, but no big worries. Anything that's in active development should be coming along shortly.
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06-24-2008, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullshark
Tried it, it killed my absolutely-must-have TabMixPlus add on. I wouldn't even use Firefox without it, I'd go back to Avant, and I had an horrible time trying to find and download FF 2.0.0.14 to go back to it.
So, just beware that your beloved add on might not work.
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ah, some (lame) add-ons might not work, right.
Firefox 3 betas have been around for some time though, so all my addons already worked and one was updated automatically to a FF3 version.
and if you look closely on the page of tabmix plus, you can see, that there is in fact a version for FF3.
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06-24-2008, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
i'm already using it since a week or so!?
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pff, nerd...
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06-24-2008, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullshark
Tried it, it killed my absolutely-must-have TabMixPlus add on. I wouldn't even use Firefox without it, I'd go back to Avant, and I had an horrible time trying to find and download FF 2.0.0.14 to go back to it.
So, just beware that your beloved add on might not work.
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i was pretty disappointed when i found that out too. i'm sure TMP will get updated eventually.
but i only used it to resize and visually customize tabs, which i have since learned can all be done through userchrome and about :config.
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06-24-2008, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
i'm already using it since a week or so!?
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I was running it since april on my office workstation, as it got in with the Kubuntu update to 8.04 but I'm still running Firefox 2.x on my business laptop because of several plugin issues. Installed v3 on my DAW last week though, while hooking it back onto the net
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06-24-2008, 01:39 PM
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FF3 for a week or so here... FF2 long before that. Love my FF. IE SUX!**
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** Understatement of the year?
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06-24-2008, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullshark
Tried it, it killed my absolutely-must-have TabMixPlus add on.
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TabMixPlus has a beta on the developer's site that works really well. This one was the main reason I didn't go with the beta or RCs. A week in and most of my extensions now work.
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06-24-2008, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Till
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SWEET! Thanks for that, Till! I've been using FF3 for (nearly) a week now, and have been loving it, but I DID miss TabMix. Now that I've got TabMix working, I'm happy as a clam.
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06-24-2008, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Till
ah, some (lame) add-ons might not work, right.
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You mean like minimize-to-tray, safe history, safe cache?
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06-24-2008, 02:34 PM
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Ah, yes.
Good ol' Tab Mix Plus.
'Undo Close Tab' and 'Duplicate Tab' ... *sigh*
... shall I compare thee to a Summer's day? ...
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06-24-2008, 02:52 PM
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Thanks Till, I'm off to grab mine right now!
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06-24-2008, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Till
possibly humanized, the guys who made enso, which i can only recommend btw
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Thanks a lot for the Enso link!
I feel like I'm creating a more personal bond with my computer already
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06-24-2008, 06:15 PM
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Love FF3. Awesome
BUT, watch out for the surf history in you address bar. You ask it to clear in the clear private data option, but it's still there when you type in a URL in the address bar. This disables the feature until they fix the bug.
Disable the Location Bar Dropdown:
1. Type about :config in the Firefox address bar. Hit Enter.
2. Go to "browser.urlbar.maxRichResults" in the list.
3. Right click, select "Modify", change to desired setting number.
4. Change setting to 0 to disable, default is 12.
You don't want your wife questioning what redtube.com is do you?
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06-24-2008, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbenci
Love FF3. Awesome
BUT, watch out for the surf history in you address bar. You ask it to clear in the clear private data option, but it's still there when you type in a URL in the address bar. This disables the feature until they fix the bug.
Disable the Location Bar Dropdown:
1. Type about:config in the Firefox address bar. Hit Enter.
2. Go to "browser.urlbar.maxRichResults" in the list.
3. Right click, select "Modify", change to desired setting number.
4. Change setting to 0 to disable, default is 12.
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But where does that info come from? I went to eday only to find some of the things I was looking up there UP TO THREE YEARS AGO!!! And this is a new computer here, so ... ?
Shogger
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06-24-2008, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shogger
But where does that info come from? I went to eday only to find some of the things I was looking up there UP TO THREE YEARS AGO!!! And this is a new computer here, so ... ?
Shogger
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Google maybe??? Now that you have asked, I think I might find out.
It amazes me how much online privacy is an illusion. I found the same thing - sites I had searched for ages ago were now in my address bar. Where was this being stored? By whom? Aluminum hat time me thinks!
Last edited by cbenci; 06-24-2008 at 08:22 PM.
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06-24-2008, 08:40 PM
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If you use Sandboxie for suspect sites, then it's ALL deleted at the session end (if you want)...like a condom for your browser!
Btw CCleaner should get rid of any junk too.
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06-25-2008, 12:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbenci
BUT, watch out for the surf history in you address bar. You ask it to clear in the clear private data option, but it's still there when you type in a URL in the address bar. This disables the feature until they fix the bug.
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I at least seem to get rid of this data as I can't reproduce this info staying in the address bar.
I do this for FF2:
1) Display history
2) Right-click on the folder for the site, Delete
3) Tools, Cookies, Delete the folder for the site
Gone (if I'm not missing something)
In FF3 you can also delete the cookies, by clicking on the icon at the start of the address bar, then "More information", show cookies...
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06-25-2008, 12:38 AM
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Good find... that was one of the extensions I missed.
For anyone that likes *dark* themes, I installed "NASA Night Launch" from that guys post in the forum link in Till's post. It be way dark, pretty cool.
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06-25-2008, 12:46 AM
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FF3 is using up 191 MB here with all plugins disabled.
Have no clue why.
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06-25-2008, 12:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carbon
I at least seem to get rid of this data as I can't reproduce this info staying in the address bar.
I do this for FF2:
1) Display history
2) Right-click on the folder for the site, Delete
3) Tools, Cookies, Delete the folder for the site
Gone (if I'm not missing something)
In FF3 you can also delete the cookies, by clicking on the icon at the start of the address bar, then "More information", show cookies...
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That's what I thought should happen, but it doesn't on my PC and many people I know. It could be a 'feature' if you have Google toolbar installed - I am about to test this.
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06-25-2008, 12:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bevosss
If you use Sandboxie for suspect sites, then it's ALL deleted at the session end (if you want)...like a condom for your browser!
Btw CCleaner should get rid of any junk too.
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CCleaner won't even clear the history for me.
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06-25-2008, 12:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keyman_sam
FF3 is using up 191 MB here with all plugins disabled.
Have no clue why.
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I'm not sure why either, FF3 is only using 135 MB on my PC with nothing disabled.
Do you have alot of tabs open?
Just for kicks I opened IE7 and it used 210 MB with nothing added.
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06-25-2008, 12:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbenci
CCleaner won't even clear the history for me.
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That's strange, I use CCleaner all the time, no problem deleting 'history' here. Are you using the most recent version? (ver 2.08.588) If not, try updating.
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06-25-2008, 01:15 AM
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Think i'll continue towards installing Opera.
FF chews a lot of resource. 135MB here too,
Alex.
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06-25-2008, 01:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Stone
Think i'll continue towards installing Opera.
FF chews a lot of resource. 135MB here too,
Alex.
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Take a look at this:
http://dotnetperls.com/Content/Browser-Memory.aspx
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06-25-2008, 01:41 AM
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a little OT:
if you don't want google, yahoo etc. to profile you using your searches, this one helps: http://mrl.nyu.edu/~dhowe/TrackMeNot/index.html
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06-25-2008, 02:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themensch
You mean like minimize-to-tray, safe history, safe cache?
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yeah, those are the ones that get beaten up at school.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbenci
BUT, watch out for the surf history in you address bar. You ask it to clear in the clear private data option, but it's still there when you type in a URL in the address bar. This disables the feature until they fix the bug.
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works perfectly in my firefox. maybe it's displaying your bookmarks?
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06-25-2008, 03:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Till
yeah, those are the ones that get beaten up at school.
works perfectly in my firefox. maybe it's displaying your bookmarks?
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I feel like such a dickhead! Yes, it was my bookmarks.
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06-25-2008, 04:00 AM
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O.O i actually felt like a dickhead for posting that question because it's really obvious , but i also had that "whoooa, hold on, application knows too much!"-moment.
that's 2 issues solved.
btw, firefox doesn't gobble up 150 MB of RAM on startup. on my machine it starts up @ 26 MB usage (which is still a lot). it's pretty sloppy when it comes to freeing RAM tho. on the other hand i never even get 1 (of 2) Gig used up overall when not mixing, so why care?
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06-25-2008, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Stone
Think i'll continue towards installing Opera.
FF chews a lot of resource. 135MB here too,
Alex.
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I regularly have FF eating 300-500MB (right now 362MB) and it does not let it go very well.
I hope FF3 addressed this issue.
David
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06-25-2008, 02:05 PM
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Yes, FF3 rocks, if you can live with it chewing up a little memory. Hasn't been a problem here...it's actually only using about 88MB at the moment.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dungbeetle
Ah, yes.
Good ol' Tab Mix Plus.
'Undo Close Tab' and 'Duplicate Tab' ... *sigh*
... shall I compare thee to a Summer's day? ...
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Just to mention it, even without TabMix, I get the Undo Close Tab option by right-clicking to the side of the last tab I have open, and the History menu has a list of recently closed tabs you can pick from. You can duplicate tabs by control-click-dragging a tab.
The must-have add-ons for me are Foxmarks (for the three computers I regularly use) and Mouse Gestures. Once you start browsing with mouse gestures, you can never go back...
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06-25-2008, 02:10 PM
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I still havent found the "super special toolbar" thing, but...
The icons and UI have been tightened up a bit I guess.
The biggest thing for me is that the process of downloading something is ALOT faster now...
That was a real drag in the 2.X versions... waiting forever for that damn downloads window to get its shit together. Now it just pops right up and starts the darn download like its supposed to. Awesome. Wonder if "Down them all" is faster now too somehow?
Anyway, thanks for the alert Till... I didnt know it was out.
Why didnt Firefox 2.X know that there was a new version?
It always checked for new versions before...
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06-25-2008, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spoon
I regularly have FF eating 300-500MB (right now 362MB) and it does not let it go very well.
I hope FF3 addressed this issue.
David
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Doesn't look like it.
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06-25-2008, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blechi
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Thanks for that. I remember seeing this a while ago but it wasn't compatible with FF3.
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06-25-2008, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jakerock
...Why didnt Firefox 2.X know that there was a new version?
It always checked for new versions before...
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new versions come via autoupdate a little later than the official release, to give the addon developers a chance to catch up and to complete some 'real life beta test' for the new version.
I read something like that on the Mozilla website.
Last edited by Blechi; 06-25-2008 at 04:22 PM.
Reason: quote inserted
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06-25-2008, 05:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jakerock
I still havent found the "super special toolbar" thing, but...
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It's in the 'address' window. Clear the address and start typing the name of a bookmark (or REAPER, for instance) and watch what happens... pretty cool.
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