Old 04-08-2011, 10:19 AM   #1
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Hello Reaper users!! Quick question for you . . . I'm upgrading my computer to an i7-950 quad 64 bit machine, and I was wondering if I should spend the extra $$ to upgrade from Windows 7 Home to Windows 7 Professional. What is the difference between the two if all I'm going to use the machine for is Reaper and plug-ins? Any advice you have would be appreciated!!
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:22 AM   #2
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I don't know how it would matter in reaper itself, but personally find the 7 pro gives you more control of the OS itself...

the same sort of things were true for XP... the pro version let you customize things that the lesser 'home user' version did not.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:32 AM   #4
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Just reading the threads on the forum, it seems 64 bit is a total headache. Do I spend the grand to upgrade my PC?? I'm totally confused. I downloaded the new Melodyne, and my current PC hates it. It's stuttering and slow and I can't get anything done with it. I went on their forum and apparently it's a RAM issue. Sometimes it totally amazes me how crappy Windows is. Microsoft f'ing sucks.
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I went on their forum and apparently it's a RAM issue. Sometimes it totally amazes me how crappy Windows is. Microsoft f'ing sucks.
Well, I'm no Microsoft fan either, but to be fair, if what they're saying is you've not got enough RAM to run the latest software, you can't blame Windows! It means your current PC isn't up to the specifications required by Molodyne!

Either get more RAM, or do as you're doing - get a new PC!
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:09 PM   #6
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Would suggest Win 7 Pro although doesn't mean Reaper won't work well with home 7. But for more into deep tweaking, control etc... etc... Win 7 Pro would be suggested. Same here just bought new system i7 etc... and went Pro 64 bit all the way

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you can't blame Windows! It means your current PC isn't up to the specifications required by Molodyne!

Either get more RAM, or do as you're doing - get a new PC!
Oh yes I can blame Windows. Windows 32bit can only access < 4 gigs of RAM. That's a software issue!! I'm also tired of these software developers dragging their feet with coding for 64 bit. It's here, it's now, get to it!! They do a great job of taking my money (and I pay for EVERY piece of software I use), but not great at keeping up.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_GB_barrier
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I have tried for years to be Micro$oft free (many linux multimedia OS's), but since I love Reaper and audio, I have found Window$ 7 Pro 64bit to be the best OS for my needs. Any other computing needs are done on various linux distros, but my quad core 7 machine can handle very large projects with very CPU hungry plugins. Basically, do you want to do audio or adhere to some kind of "conscious and enlightened" computer and software ideal? I say do both and go 64bit. You can always run Reaper 32bit or 64bit, depending upon what your needs are and what works better in each.
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The final piece of the 3 GB barrier puzzle is a limit deliberately coded by Microsoft into the "non-server," or "client," x86 editions of Microsoft Windows: Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7.
Okay, I take it back. You CAN blame Microsoft!
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I have understood that Win7 Pro only offered key benefits to network users versus Hm Prm and was advised no benefit for my home use (even on my 'Hm Grp' network). Had that supported with several sources, but certainly not an official answer. My expectation is for W7 Hm Prm to run Reaper and a set of Spectrasonics goodies very effectively in addition to current Synthogy Ivory II.

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Hello Reaper users!! Quick question for you . . . I'm upgrading my computer to an i7-950 quad 64 bit machine, and I was wondering if I should spend the extra $$ to upgrade from Windows 7 Home to Windows 7 Professional. What is the difference between the two if all I'm going to use the machine for is Reaper and plug-ins? Any advice you have would be appreciated!!
My 2 cents:

When in doubt, go with the "pro" option. And with an i7 950 machine, only opt for 64-bit if you really need access to greater than 3 GB memory. At 32-bit that CPU will smoke 99.99% of whatever you throw at it.

Been running Reaper on an i7 920 with W7 Pro 32-bit for the last 18 months without a single issue. Best, rock solid system I've ever had.

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My 2 cents:

When in doubt, go with the "pro" option. And with an i7 950 machine, only opt for 64-bit if you really need access to greater than 3 GB memory. At 32-bit that CPU will smoke 99.99% of whatever you throw at it.

Been running Reaper on an i7 920 with W7 Pro 32-bit for the last 18 months without a single issue. Best, rock solid system I've ever had.

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The difference in price isn't worth it.
Also go 64 bit because that is the future.
Rumours are the next version of Windows may not include the 32 bit option.

However, make certain your audio card, mouse, video card, control surface, MIDI interface, printer and any other hardware you might have has 64 bit versions available!!!

Do this BEFORE you plunk down you money!

I'm running Reaper 64 on Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and it works great.
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Old 04-09-2011, 12:58 AM   #14
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running 32 bit reaper AND sonar AND Studio One Artist (what can I say? Still dithering) under XP Pro 64 on one machine and & Pro 64 on the other. Zero issues with reaper on either, which is more than can be said of Sonar.

And I am too new to Studio One to tell.

But 64 bit OS running 32bit apps is probably the best compromise until you HAVE to go all 64 bit.
Still a few issues with certain softs under all 64bit.
Mostly plugs.
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Old 04-09-2011, 01:45 AM   #15
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the only really important difference between a (64 bit) home win7 and the ultimate / pro versions imo is that the home versions is limited to 16Gb of ram maximum, the ultimate/pro version can handle more (192GB)
the other differences are not really important when you are just planning to use audio software...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions
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The difference in price isn't worth it.
Also go 64 bit because that is the future.
Rumours are the next version of Windows may not include the 32 bit option.
The server variant of win 7 (i.e. windows server 2008 r2) is already only available in 64 bit.
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Old 04-09-2011, 07:27 AM   #17
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Win 7 home 64 bit + lots of ram + reaper 32 bit is a killer setup.

You get the 32 bit stability, can still run 64 bit plugs via the plugin wrapper, and the os uses extra ram for disk caching which is just pure win.
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Old 04-09-2011, 07:34 AM   #18
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

win64 if you ever plan on having more than 4 gigs ram.

win32 if you never plan on having more than 4 gigs ram.

if win64, then:

use reaper 32 and 32 bit plugins.

why?

Let's use my scenario. 8 gigs ram, win7 x64.

4 gigs for reaper, 4 gigs for other processes running in the background, kind of a safety net there.

let's say you need to use more ram for some intensive plugins.

bridge it in reaper 32, even the 32 bit version. That leaves you 4 gigs for reaper and all of its non-bridged plugins, 4 gigs for the plugin.

its quite simple. No need to even touch 64 bit programs and plugins, unless that individual plugin instance will use more than 4 gig. In THAT case, you could bridge a 64 bit plugin to a 32 bit reaper. Whilst also using 32 bit plugins otherwise.


So, my recommendation right now, as I have stated several times is:

get 8 gigs of ram or more in your system

get win7 x64

run reaper x86

bridge whatever plugins you need which are memory intensive, for plugins using less than 4 gig, bridge a 32 bit plugin. For plugins using more than 4 gig, bridge a 64 bit plugin.

you have the ram access of 64 bit, and the stability of 32 bit.

done.
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Old 04-09-2011, 07:34 AM   #19
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I have a similar question - I have a new i5 laptop coming soon with Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium. Can I simply run all my 32 bit versions of Reaper, Kontakt, etc. without any hassle? In other words, if I don't care about accessing more than 3 Gb of RAM (which at the moment I don't), is there any reason to use the 64 bit versions of my audio programs?
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Can I simply run all my 32 bit versions of Reaper, Kontakt, etc. without any hassle?
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In other words, if I don't care about accessing more than 3 Gb of RAM (which at the moment I don't), is there any reason to use the 64 bit versions of my audio programs?
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I run Reaper on my Toshiba laptop with 4 gigs of RAM and 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium and it is a fast, stable workhorse.
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Another vote here for 64 bit Windows 7 and 32 bit Reaper.
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:14 AM   #23
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I run Reaper 64bit on a Laptop with 8GB RAM and a i7 Sandy Bridge Processor.
I use Win7 64 bit Home Premium (it was already installed on the laptop).
I bridge those plugins that are not available as 64 bit yet (not that many actually, as most plugins I use already come as 64bit).
Runs smoothly and without problems.

Reaper also runs smoothly on my Netbook with Win7 Starter (32bit) and on my old studio PC with WinXP (32bit).
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