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03-30-2017, 03:33 AM
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JS Mid/Side alternative of Voxengo MSED
http://www.voxengo.com/product/msed/
Searching for the JS alternative of Voxengo MSED.
Actually I need MID gain and SIDE gain knobs.
thanx!
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03-30-2017, 07:54 AM
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thank you!
Jreng! is nice but buggy (sounds not good when mid and side both engaged).
report sent.
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03-30-2017, 07:59 AM
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kawa recently put Simple_Mid_Side_JSFX in the stash, seems to work well (though I haven't used it much yet). His other jsfx are top notch so I feel it deserves a serious look, though perhaps it's too simple for some applications. Editing it to need should be pretty easy, it's like 20 lines of code
Last edited by run_esc; 03-30-2017 at 08:05 AM.
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03-30-2017, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonmerry
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ms-processing on a reversed snare mic???
what's it for?
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03-30-2017, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicAxiom
ms-processing on a reversed snare mic???
what's it for?
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LOL no! My ears are not THAT gold REV here is for REVerb. Messy track names...
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03-31-2017, 02:53 AM
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What am I missing? MSED has Mid Gain and Side Gain knobs.
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03-31-2017, 04:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonmerry
LOL no! My ears are not THAT gold REV here is for REVerb. Messy track names...
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ok ... but please tell me: why ms-processing the snare's reverb return? The image only shows the decoding part so I assume that the ms encoder is probably sitting in front of the rev plug. Can't you get enough stereo width from the reverb alone??
I'd suggest not doing this. Generally, stereo widening is done at the mastering stage (or at least in the master track) to get a nice width into the whole mix. Processing individual signals prior to this step has the risk of ending up with some signals being too wide after mastering causing phase issues for these tracks. You should always have a goniometer /stereo scope at the end of your master track to check for phase issues in the final mix. If there are in fact stereo source signals that are too narrow (less than 100%), you may widen them individually but only to the extent that you can still add the "global" widening in the master track without overdoing the effect regarding the tracks that already have been widened because the effect adds up.
Last edited by SonicAxiom; 03-31-2017 at 05:39 AM.
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03-31-2017, 07:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicAxiom
ok ... but please tell me: why ms-processing the snare's reverb return? The image only shows the decoding part so I assume that the ms encoder is probably sitting in front of the rev plug. Can't you get enough stereo width from the reverb alone??
I'd suggest not doing this. Generally, stereo widening is done at the mastering stage (or at least in the master track) to get a nice width into the whole mix. Processing individual signals prior to this step has the risk of ending up with some signals being too wide after mastering causing phase issues for these tracks. You should always have a goniometer /stereo scope at the end of your master track to check for phase issues in the final mix. If there are in fact stereo source signals that are too narrow (less than 100%), you may widen them individually but only to the extent that you can still add the "global" widening in the master track without overdoing the effect regarding the tracks that already have been widened because the effect adds up.
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Thanks for the useful tips, and for the advanced analysis yes i agree with you about careful widening on the mixing stage. Other than using meters, sometimes mono check can also reveal if there's strange stereo corellation going on.
But in this case i guess i'm just cutting some unwanted frequencies using 2 instances of ReaEQ in MS environment
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03-31-2017, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonmerry
... i'm just cutting some unwanted frequencies using 2 instances of ReaEQ in MS environment
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smart ms processing, crimsonmerry!
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03-31-2017, 10:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
What am I missing? MSED has Mid Gain and Side Gain knobs.
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I think he just want to use js plugin instead, perhaps for better performance.
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03-31-2017, 02:25 PM
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I noticed version 3 of Voxengo's MSED took a bit more CPU here on my system, i'm guessing it was caused by the pretty goniometer. I wish it could be turned off when working on a heavy project. Luckily i still have the V2.
And to the OP, *EDIT: i just remembered something. Actually there's nothing wrong with Jreng's MSED. It's just doesn't have an Inline mode, only Encoder and Decoder. I guess for your needs Witti's plugs will be more proper.
Last edited by crimsonmerry; 03-31-2017 at 03:28 PM.
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04-01-2017, 03:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonmerry
I wish it could be turned off when working on a heavy project.
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just click on the "UI" button for the generic GUI, which cuts CPU usage significantly. it actually uses less CPU than my homemade JS MSED "clone"...
Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonmerry
Actually there's nothing wrong with Jreng's MSED.
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actually, there is something wrong with it...
he divides the channel sum by the square root of 2.
it should be divided by 2 (or multiplied by *0.5)
Last edited by bezusheist; 04-01-2017 at 03:37 AM.
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04-01-2017, 04:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bezusheist
just click on the "UI" button for the generic GUI, which cuts CPU usage significantly.
actually, there is something wrong with it...
he divides the channel sum by the square root of 2.
it should be divided by 2 (or multiplied by *0.5)
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Actually... Thanks for the correction i know nothing about scripting, i'll just drop him a message with your comment.
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