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Yeah, mines in too.
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sent mine in so long ago I probably wouldn't recognize it.
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But Tod you only sent me the flac file
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Ok we're now 12 people I wonder if we'll ever get to 20 someday :O
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But Tod you only sent me the flac file
Oops, sorry, I thought that's all you needed at this point, but okay, try get that off to you soon.
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Oops, sorry, I thought that's all you needed at this point, but okay, try get that off to you soon.
well yeah, but it's been 6 months and you've always done it correctly
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Sent mine (I think???) Can you check please Dave. Not too computer savvy - compressed it in 7zip but it was sent to Google Drive.

Ah, one of these days I'll understand this new technology...
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Sent mine (I think???) Can you check please Dave. Not too computer savvy - compressed it in 7zip but it was sent to Google Drive.

Ah, one of these days I'll understand this new technology...
got it now
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got it now
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wait but... if I open your sessions there's nothing in there
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Hopefully mine came through ok.
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Hopefully mine came through ok.
yep, I just had to use a limiter because your mix was peaking at 0 dB
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Really? ouch. Sorry. It's a learning process. I did apply a limiter as suggested I thought, and then used the loudness extension to adjust per instructions. But I don't doubt I made a mistake somewhere along the way.

Which brings me to a good newby question: After the contest, is there any open discussion with the winner and how they got the results they achieved? Mixing before the contest was fun, but truth be told I look forward to picking the winners brain and revisiting the tracks and mixing again.
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wait but... if I open your sessions there's nothing in there
Sent it again - sorry, dunno what's happening. If I go to sent mail, it's there and the zip file with my Reaper project, the FLAC and my user notes are there
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Frustrating to say the least! I've no idea what's going on - can somebody tell me how to zip and send the files - I have 7 zip.

'Else, I'll just have to withdraw from the contest- my entry is on soundcloud - see my signature
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Really? ouch. Sorry. It's a learning process. I did apply a limiter as suggested I thought, and then used the loudness extension to adjust per instructions. But I don't doubt I made a mistake somewhere along the way.
The instructions in the OP are exactly backwards. I mentioned it waaay back toward the beginning of the thread. If your crest factor is greater than 13.8db, and you limit to -0.2 and then normalize to -14 LUFS, you push your peaks over. It can, will, and must happen.
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Frustrating to say the least! I've no idea what's going on - can somebody tell me how to zip and send the files - I have 7 zip.

'Else, I'll just have to withdraw from the contest- my entry is on soundcloud - see my signature
don't worry man.

Create a new folder and put inside your mix, your reaper project and any reverb impulses (if any).

Open 7-zip, look for that folder, select it and press "add" in the top menu. Choose the compression type (zip or 7-zip) and where you want to save it.

There's no need to withdraw
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I'm uploading the submissions AND I haven't touched ANYTHING this time. So, don't you dare guys to tell I messed up everything
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I'm uploading the submissions AND I haven't touched ANYTHING this time. So, don't you dare guys to tell I messed up everything
OK. Easy now. Deep breath. Ahhhhh...there you go. By the way, you totally messed everything up.



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oops my English is sooo poor sometimes when I'm tired.

More have a good night than have a good day
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Thanks Dave - hope I got it right this time...
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@trevlyns downloading right now

We're now 14 people! Both the submissions and the survey are now up and running.

The voting stage starts... NOW!
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Trevlyns, there is an error in your zip folder. Just simply send me your reaper project via email (reaper.contest@gmail.com)
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Done!
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Dave, the link to the submissions opens google drive telling it's the February submissions.

No big thing, just wanted to tell, the files are the actual ones.
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Dave, the link to the submissions opens google drive telling it's the February submissions.

No big thing, just wanted to tell, the files are the actual ones.
shit xD no the files are not the actual ones
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ok fixed
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Dave, you've got my mix right?

So all I have to send you is my project file right? That's small enough to just attach to the email, will that be okay.
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Dave, you've got my mix right?

So all I have to send you is my project file right? That's small enough to just attach to the email, will that be okay.
exactly, you just need to send me your project
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exactly, you just need to send me your project
Okay you should be getting.
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yep, thank you.

We're now 16 people!
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Thanks again for your hard work Dave! Listened to the mixes and cast my vote. First time in a while I could not pick my mix out from the submissions as there were one or two others that were awfully close to mine. Guess we'll see. Good luck all!
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I think there is a sweet spot that I like, which may different from one genre to another, but is not necessarily with transients that peak up near 0. If you don't peak up near 0, that definitely means your track is more compressed and more consistent in volume throughout the song, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

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You lose dynamics when you have more compression, but that's not necessarily bad, just like putting a compressor on a vocal loses dynamics, and makes it appear louder, but that's not making the vocals worse.
Thank you for long and detailed answer, REAmix. I think I understand you better now. I'm pretty much agree with you, since really, the level of overall compression, macro- and microdynamics should be solely an artistic choice and all these things are very subjective and depend on the style of the music a lot.

What I noticed, is that some people tend to trust the measurements too much and act blindly upon a limited set of values which are sometimes too broad to address all the details of the mix. I mean, it's possible to look at the integral loudness meter and just slap a compressor at master to achieve the aim LUFS level, whatever it is. But there's so many factors at work here: the difference in volume/compression between parts of the song, attack/release curves of multiple dynamics processors at different stages of the mix, the resulting amount of transients passed and their character (sharpness and punch), etc.

Even though I may hold a different opinion on what sounds good to me, It pleases me to know when a person makes his decisions knowingly and controls all aforementioned parameters to achieve their idea of the best sound.

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Unfortunately, I had no time to participate this month, even though I liked the song a lot. I'll try to listen to all the submission and vote! Good luck everyone!
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Lol. I tried to email a while back but it would seem it never sent.

That's fine. There's 16 entries and lots to look through! I'll post my mix for shits when the contest is over along with my notes on the mixes, which I just finished writing.
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Lol. I tried to email a while back but it would seem it never sent.

That's fine. There's 16 entries and lots to look through! I'll post my mix for shits when the contest is over along with my notes on the mixes, which I just finished writing.
Ohhh that's a shame, but plz do let us in your project flow and mix .

I did check out Theatre Crisp for the first time, just now, and I really like it! Kind of reminds me of 311; at least from what I remember in the late 90's.

I really enjoyed the video for Get It (LIVE OFF THE FLOOR). Did I see the Reaper DAW on the big screen? lol

You guys in Ontario? I'm from Montreal, Quebec (un francophone de souche).

Keep up the good music. You got a new fan.
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Lol. I tried to email a while back but it would seem it never sent.

That's fine. There's 16 entries and lots to look through! I'll post my mix for shits when the contest is over along with my notes on the mixes, which I just finished writing.
did you send me your mix??? oh shit
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No I started the email, uploaded a .zip, then thought to change something, did so, I think I got to uploading it again, got distracted, I dunno something happened. It's not in my sent or draft folders. :P

Whatever, I learned from the mix and will learn from the other submissions, that's all that matters.
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You could have continued your dictatorship
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Any ideas about who might be winning at the moment? keep voting!

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Just a kind of small thing, but would it be possible next time to just zip the Submissions.rpp, and the "Source" folder with the submissions in it, directly to a zip file, rather than within a "submissions" folder inside the zip file?

That way I can unzip straight into my project directory and it will work right away.

Or, if anybody knows a way to only unzip some specific files within folders in a zip, directly to a specific directory, without the entire hierarchy being written there, that would be really useful for other times as well, but to my knowledge that's unfortunately not possible.
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