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04-17-2017, 10:25 AM
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v5.50pre4 - April 17 2017
v5.50pre4 - April 17 2017
+ Actions: add action to reduce number of envelope points by half
+ MIDI editor: restore keyboard focus to piano roll after changing CC lane via dropdown
+ VST3: improve call of bundleExit on macOS
+ mixer: improve drag and drop behavior on macOS [t=190761]
# Automation items: fix gluing overlapping items... again
# Automation items: fix reduce-points dialog
# Automation items: fix undo after moving automation item to a different envelope
# Automation items: support automation items for video processor envelopes
# EDL: Samplitude import supports muted items
# Spectral peaks: prevent unnecessary processing with pre-fx pan/width envelopes
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04-17-2017, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mustgroove
v5.50pre4 - April 17 2017
+ mixer: improve drag and drop behavior on macOS [t=190761]
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All my love to the developers.
Works much better. [t=190761] updated as fixed.
Last edited by Robert Randolph; 04-17-2017 at 10:38 AM.
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04-17-2017, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mustgroove
+ MIDI editor: restore keyboard focus to piano roll after changing CC lane via dropdown
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This was SO annoying! Thanks for the fix
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04-17-2017, 11:48 AM
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Also, this bug just in...
It probably happened way before, but it's kinda nasty so here goes.
The action to explode MIDI note rows to separate items is broken if NON-CC data (pitch bend, aftertouch, program change, etc.) events are contained in it. It creates way more items than necessary in this case, up to more than a hundred if the stream of these events is dense! I didn't notice it until this thread: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=190669. The project is attached in post #25, but this can be recreated even with an empty project and some added MIDI data.
Also, I think it's not a cool behaviour that CCs don't get copied to the exploded items. Say if we have some MIDI CC data in the original item, only the first exploded item gets them, the others get nothing. This is pretty important if pitch bend events are part of the game here.
This action is pretty broken right now, so it needs an urgent fix.
1. It should only create as many items as there are notes in the original item.
2. Each exploded item should get the EXACT copy of all pitch/aftertouch/CC data over.
3. Meta-events (text, sysex, notation) should get their own item. Perhaps it would be better to have a variant of this action that explodes meta-events as well (the current action could ignore them altogether).
Last edited by EvilDragon; 04-17-2017 at 11:58 AM.
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04-17-2017, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
Also, this bug just in...
It probably happened way before, but it's kinda nasty so here goes.
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So it happens in 5.40 then too? wrong forum?
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04-17-2017, 12:10 PM
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# Automation items: support automation items for video processor envelopes
Thanks for the video love!
I noticed on the pre3 that trying to copy and paste a track envelope the old way from one track to another (not using AIs) doesn't seem to work.
Is that just me doing it wrong or is that a known thing?
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04-17-2017, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
So it happens in 5.40 then too? wrong forum?
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http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=1833475
There we go, then. Hope it gets fixed anyways.
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04-17-2017, 02:43 PM
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Is it a bug or a expected behaviour ?
Why the right point doesn't move (default action with the mouse modifier : move segment)?
or why there is no new points created like this ?
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04-17-2017, 02:47 PM
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How do you have automation item settings set up in Preferences->Editing Behavior->Automation->Automation items?
I cannot duplicate the first GIF you're showing.
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04-17-2017, 03:05 PM
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Yeah, same here, I cannot make that happen.
You probably want to work with the last setting, though (connect to both sides).
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04-18-2017, 10:36 AM
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Automation items: copy/paste bug
I just noticed this bug when copying and pasting (pooled or not) automation items within a time selection:
In Preferences/Editing Behavior/Automation I have "Automation items do not connect to the underlying envelope" ticked as default.
This was working as I would expect in pre3 (the underlying envelope was pasted correctly).
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04-18-2017, 09:02 PM
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Inconsistent behavior when points have the same x value.
https://goo.gl/WSmZUp
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04-19-2017, 05:24 AM
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Thanks a million for the Actions: add action to reduce number of envelope points by half
Could we please also have one that only applies to the time selection? The current action does work great for the entire track though, but when drawing on a track with existing data it would affect that data too. Thanks !!!!
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04-19-2017, 05:34 AM
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Wow, just one bug report from Embass!
That's a good sign, I guess.
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04-19-2017, 12:34 PM
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Disable snaping, stretch automation item.. sometimes first point becomes visible at the end.. move this point to the right.
https://goo.gl/5Oq5Fn
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04-19-2017, 12:36 PM
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Hoho LoL awww awww funny detected.
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04-19-2017, 01:13 PM
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Automation items weird behaviour when you have tempo changes..
https://goo.gl/ng48YZ
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04-19-2017, 01:13 PM
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I spoke too soon.
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04-19-2017, 02:04 PM
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Item edit: Move contents of items left splits automation item.
Item edit: Move contents of items right splits automation item.
https://goo.gl/Vpq3Ce
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04-19-2017, 02:15 PM
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Item edit: Move duplicate of item to edit cursor
Item edit: Move duplicate of item under mouse to edit cursor
https://goo.gl/dPSNkZ
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04-19-2017, 03:31 PM
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With the AI on the right, all is OK, but with the AI on the left I think there is maybe a bug.
PS : "Options: attach underlying envelope to automation edges" on "off" has not resolve my issue.
Last edited by ovnis; 04-20-2017 at 03:00 AM.
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04-21-2017, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovnis
with the AI on the left I think there is maybe a bug.
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That's definitely incorrect behavior. How are you creating the item on the left? Are you able to consistently reproduce this from scratch?
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04-21-2017, 06:51 AM
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Both have been created with CTLR+drag.
This bug seems to hapen randomly and more often on the right side of AI.
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04-21-2017, 07:49 AM
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in this update something goes really wrong with this custom action (worked in 5.40)
Custom: JT: +3dB selected envelope section
SWS/BR: Select envelope at mouse cursor
Envelope: Insert 4 envelope points at time selection
Envelopes: Move selected points up a little bit
Envelopes: Move selected points up a little bit
Envelopes: Move selected points up a little bit
The first time it is run it puts the envelope segment at -inf.
The second time it is run it raises the envelope by .75dB instead of 3dB.
same problem for equivelent action for lowering envelope segment.
pretty sure the tooltip doesn't update either.
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04-21-2017, 09:18 AM
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Reaper consistently crashes when i do this..
https://goo.gl/H8lbj4
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04-21-2017, 09:23 AM
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Embass is a bug-finding beast.
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04-21-2017, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Embass
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At first I thought it was because of your dog wallpaper but it does it for me too.
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04-22-2017, 01:21 AM
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I cannot understand why but when I change the edit cursor, then I can create automation item correctly, but then I try to do it again from the start of the item and it is wrong again.
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04-22-2017, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergler
Embass is a bug-finding beast.
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He is not human... he is a Venus Fly Trap on steroids
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04-22-2017, 07:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heda
I cannot understand why but when I change the edit cursor, then I can create automation item correctly, but then I try to do it again from the start of the item and it is wrong again.
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I can confirm this behaviour.
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04-24-2017, 04:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heda
I cannot understand why but when I change the edit cursor, then I can create automation item correctly, but then I try to do it again from the start of the item and it is wrong again.
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I can't reproduce this. Does it happen in a fresh project, with no other automation items in the project?
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04-24-2017, 04:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovnis
Both have been created with CTLR+drag.
This bug seems to hapen randomly and more often on the right side of AI.
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Have the automation items been stretched at all?
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04-24-2017, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovnis
Is it a bug or a expected behaviour ?
Why the right point doesn't move (default action with the mouse modifier : move segment)?
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I can reproduce this. It seems that 'move envelope segment' behaves differently for right side.
https://goo.gl/BChPHM
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04-24-2017, 09:07 AM
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Move envelope segment when automation item is looped.
https://goo.gl/vX7ORt
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04-24-2017, 09:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
I can't reproduce this. Does it happen in a fresh project, with no other automation items in the project?
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Yes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Have the automation items been stretched at all?
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The AI hase been created with CTRL+mouse drag.
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04-24-2017, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
I can't reproduce this. Does it happen in a fresh project, with no other automation items in the project?
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Today I opened the same project and I cannot reproduce it. In a new project works well too. I didn't touch anything. I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks!
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04-29-2017, 05:08 PM
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Has this bug been addressed already?
https://i.imgur.com/FI9zx9b.gif
track is in trim mode, I touch the knob and all automation goes to zero.
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04-30-2017, 04:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicSounds
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I don't see that at all in 5.50pre5.
I put a track in trim mode, did some automation, and touched the knob like you did.
Everything is fine, nothing went to zero.
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