Info on the latest Video Editing features?

[Justin]

Hmm I suppose I could add a per-item flag to have it treat animated transparency differently. Can someone send me that test image?

[Tod]

Humm, could it be my alpha image is not done right?

Here is a picture of the alpha image.



This shows the alpha image along side a non alpha image as items in Reaper. The non alpha image is on the right.



Also if you want to DL the alpha image to check it out might help. Just right click on the link and do a "Save target as..".

http://stash-new.reaper.fm/28060/Loa...%20alpha-1.png

I've never had any reason to think there could be something different or strange about my computer and it's settings?

Thanks all of you.

[typhonj]

Here is one Justin.

[typhonj]

Using same method that I used earlier, here is how it looks like with your image;

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Using same method that I used earlier, here is how it looks like with your image;

thanks for doing this typhonj, that's what I'm trying to do.

So it must have something to do with my computer?

Or could it have something to do with my main video track, they are all mp4 vids without audio?

[typhonj]

Tod;
You might have tweaked something somewhere and maybe you don't remember (might have been while ago) so, as a starter in trying to troubleshoot, let's start by comparing my 'Image Overlay' script that hasn't been touched at all with yours, then we'll try something else.

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Tod;
You might have tweaked something somewhere and maybe you don't remember (might have been while ago) so, as a starter in trying to troubleshoot, let's start by comparing my 'Image Overlay' script that hasn't been touched at all with yours, then we'll try something else.

Yes, looking it over, they match perfectly.

I've also tried what James suggested (below) but that didn't work either.

Change this,
dw = (project_w*z)|0;
dh = (sh*project_w/sw*z)|0;

with this.
dw = (sw*z)|0;
dh = (sh*z)|0;

If you look at the line just above those, input_info(img2,sw,sh);, it kind of makes sense, but neither one of them work.

Do you have VLC installed? (Appropriate version for your Reaper and Windows version, 32-bit or 64-bit.)

Okay, I was sure I did but now I'm not so sure. Where would I get the current VLC? I've done a little searching, but not very successful.

[typhonj]

Here it is

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

And here is how my video preferences setting looked like with vlc installed;



I'm confident that we will get there, can smell it

[typhonj]

Sorry and just in case;
The 64bits version is little though to find so, here is the link;

http://get.videolan.org/vlc/2.2.4/wi....2.4-win64.exe

By the way, this maybe is the problem we're having, you know, things about 32bits vs 64bits!

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Here it is

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

And here is how my video preferences setting looked like with vlc installed;

I'm confident that we will get there, can smell it

Okay, I actually already installed that a few months back when I made a couple of vids with Reaper. However, there was a newer version so I updated it.

In preferences for "Video decoder proiority:" I have this, which is different than yours, but the one arion suggested.

libav vlc qt:mov,qt,m4v,mp4 dshow:!mov qt

I went ahead and reset the default, it looks like what you've got.

vlc ffmpeg qt:mov,qt,m4v,mp4 dshow:!mov,!mp4,!m4v,!qt

So far no change.

Is there anything I have to do to make sure the VLC is being used properly?

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Sorry and just in case;
The 64bits version is little though to find so, here is the link;

http://get.videolan.org/vlc/2.2.4/wi....2.4-win64.exe

By the way, this maybe is the problem we're having, you know, things about 32bits vs 64bits!

Yeah, I noticed that was 32bit but I didn't update from that, I let the VLC program update itself.

There's no indication in the "About" as to whether it's 64bit or not. However, it's in the "C:/Program Files" so I assume it's 64bits.

[Tod]

This is the Decoder Info.

[typhonj]

Well, you are right about 32bits vlc.
32bits softs are installed into 'Program Files (x86)' so, if you let it installed itself without specifying another folder, and it is there, it is because it's the 64bits version.
Sad that the files properties doesn't say a word on 64bits though!

Anyway, if the video track is playing, it means that vlc and/or other video codecs runs fine!

You were mentioning something about projects video tracks order. . . Have you try setting it back to it's default then put the video in first track and image on the second track?

Just to make it clear, images doesn't have to be transparent nor as necessary be of GIFS or PNGS as you can see in one of my earlier exemples.
Just ran a test with a JPEG and runs perfectly fine.

If the image is on the second track and if you put your edit cursor in front of it, when manually moving image overlay buttons, what happen?

I'm now as lost as you. . .

[typhonj]

Opps, look at mine!



What is this thing about 'Reaper 5 (64) #3' ?
Do you have more than one Reaper installed??

My own main install of Reaper is only in 'REAPER (x64)'

Also, look at where he is getting my codecs at compared to yours. . .

[typhonj]

Here is the remaining at the very bottom of the codecs screens

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Well, you are right about 32bits vlc.
32bits softs are installed into 'Program Files (x86)' so, if you let it installed itself without specifying another folder, and it is there, it is because it's the 64bits version.
Sad that the files properties doesn't say a word on 64bits though!

Anyway, if the video track is playing, it means that vlc and/or other video codecs runs fine!

You were mentioning something about projects video tracks order. . . Have you try setting it back to it's default then put the video in first track and image on the second track?

Thanks typhonj, and yeah, I've got the main video on track-1 and the images on track-2.

Just to make it clear, images doesn't have to be transparent nor as necessary be of GIFS or PNGS as you can see in one of my earlier exemples.
Just ran a test with a JPEG and runs perfectly fine.

Okay, that's good to know. In this case I do want them to be transparent, but there would be times it wouldn't be necessary.

If the image is on the second track and if you put your edit cursor in front of it, when manually moving image overlay buttons, what happen?

You mean if I put it just inside of the image, right? But yeah, I can't get any kind of response at all. And, I do make sure there are no FX envelopes on the track.

I'm now as lost as you. . .

Yeah, my computer is an i7 4790k CPU with 16 gig of ram. It's just over one year old, but of course, that don't matter.

I don't have any problems with any other video things. I've done several videos with "Movie Studio Platinum-12" and I do like it, but editing is easier and I can be more concise with Reaper.

I don't have a special video card, I use the one that came with the CPU, but I haven't had any problems with it.

I'm kind of at a loss too.

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

What is this thing about 'Reaper 5 (64) #3' ?
Do you have more than one Reaper installed??

My own main install of Reaper is only in 'REAPER (x64)'

Also, look at where he is getting my codecs at compared to yours. . .

Yeah I've actually got 5 installs, but they are all portable. I use them all for one thing or another.

The one I'm using mostly now is "Reaper 5 (64) #3". I don't think that would be a problem, unless there is a problem with portable installs for this?

Yeah, the bottom of the Video Decoder Information is similar, only the paths are of course different, they reflect my portable install.

[typhonj]

I'm going to ask a dumb question but just in case; the Image Overlay fx is on the image track, not on the video track, isn't it?

You dont have a main install. . . like a real one?

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

I'm going to ask a dumb question but just in case; the Image Overlay fx is on the image track, not on the video track, isn't it?

You dont have a main install. . . like a real one?

Yes, James asked me the same thing, but I figured out right away each track had to have it's own FX.

No I don't have a regular install, I did for Reaper 4 but I never used it so I haven't installed one with Reaper 5.

I wonder if Justin could shed some light on this?

I also wonder if James has a regular install?

Thanks typhonj, and you too James, for sticking with me like you have.

[typhonj]

What do you mean by 'each track had to have it's own FX'. . .
There isn't supposed to be any fx on the video track(?)

[Justin]

Tod, maybe you can post a minimal test project and then we can a) see if it works, and b) make edits to correct it if not?

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

What do you mean by 'each track had to have it's own FX'. . .
There isn't supposed to be any fx on the video track(?)

Humm, I've got FX on the main track because there are times I want to fade it out and in with another track.

So are you saying that shouldn't be done?

[typhonj]

No, it should work but since we are trying to troubleshoot the Image Overlay in track 2, why not to take any chances and just delete de first one for now.

Then, let's try to do what Justin is asking.

[Tod]

Originally Posted by Justin

Tod, maybe you can post a minimal test project and then we can a) see if it works, and b) make edits to correct it if not?

Absolutely and thank you Justin.

I won't be able to get to it until tomorrow, I've got my whole family from out of state ready for a barbecue at 6:00, so will be pretty busy.

But if we can get this resolved I will be a happy camper.

I'll be back in the morning and thanks again.

[JamesPeters]

Normal install for me. I sometimes use portable but it's rare nowadays since I have a laptop to take with me (instead of temporarily using someone else's computer).

[beyond]

Any plans for getting audio into the JS video processor? It would be very useful for quickly generating spectrum analysis/visualization videos of a song export for youtube as opposed to the sluggish After Effects renders.

Also integrating HLSL shaders would open an insane world of graphic prowess into Reaper.

https://www.shadertoy.com

I have a feeling Justin is already thinking about all of this. :-)

[typhonj]

Just put up togheter another test wich shows that Image Overlay works with video files also;



Three tracks were used for this one where Image ovelay and Chromakey are used with automations

[JamesPeters]

Latest Reaper version 5.22: animated GIF with transparency works properly. Under video item properties (for the GIF), there's a new option called "preserve GIF transparency". Check that, and all is good. (Frames are "disposed of" properly as GIF animates.) Thanks Justin!

[JamesPeters]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Just put up togheter another test wich shows that Image Overlay works with video files also;

Three tracks were used for this one where Image ovelay and Chromakey are used with automations

Nice!

Yeah I think I'll be using Reaper for video for the foreseeable future.

[typhonj]

Hummm. . . Close to perfect, look at the little trailing I'm getting;

[JamesPeters]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Hummm. . . Close to perfect, look at the little trailing I'm getting;

I see it when I try something similar too. The image I had been using didn't have any trailing because the opaque part didn't move across a large area of transparency like your GIF does.

[Tod]

Morning guys, I just got a message from Justin and I'm a little embarrassed. I totally misunderstood the "Video item visibility" option.

I change that setting around and "Presto", it works now. I thought if I set it for higher tracks, the main video track would disappear.

So problem solved.

[typhonj]

Alright, glad to hear that Tod!


cheers

[Tod]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Just put up togheter another test wich shows that Image Overlay works with video files also;

Three tracks were used for this one where Image ovelay and Chromakey are used with automations

I hate to ask, but where do you get "Chromakey" from?

Originally Posted by JamesPeters

Latest Reaper version 5.22: animated GIF with transparency works properly. Under video item properties (for the GIF), there's a new option called "preserve GIF transparency". Check that, and all is good. (Frames are "disposed of" properly as GIF animates.) Thanks Justin!

James, are you talking about LICEcap?

Incidentally I want to thank all of you for your help and sticking with me.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by typhonj

Hummm. . . Close to perfect, look at the little trailing I'm getting;

Fixing, thanks!

[typhonj]

Hi Tod.
First of all, thank you my friend.
I've read the Reapers forum for the last five years (since I've started to use it) but actively participating for two years now and when I think of all the post I've seen you participating and trying to help all the others, it was nothing at all for me to try to help you sorting this out!!! (By the way, your daughter's song is very, very, very good)

So, Chromakey is a preset in Video processor plug in, the exact name is 'Simple source chroma-key'

Don't mean to short cut James but the option for preserving transparency is when you insert a gif on a track, right click on it and under 'source properties' is where you'll find the thick box at the bottom

[Justin]

Originally Posted by beyond

Any plans for getting audio into the JS video processor? It would be very useful for quickly generating spectrum analysis/visualization videos of a song export for youtube as opposed to the sluggish After Effects renders.

Also integrating HLSL shaders would open an insane world of graphic prowess into Reaper.

https://www.shadertoy.com

I have a feeling Justin is already thinking about all of this. :-)

Video runs completely asynchronous from audio, so not really possible without a big redesign (or big hacks, I suppose).

[typhonj]

Thank you so much Justin, unbelievable the amount of work you guys are doing!!!
5.22 is so good now and really like the cursor's blinking fix!!

[JamesPeters]

Originally Posted by Tod

Morning guys, I just got a message from Justin and I'm a little embarrassed. I totally misunderstood the "Video item visibility" option.

I change that setting around and "Presto", it works now. I thought if I set it for higher tracks, the main video track would disappear.

So problem solved.

UUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!



Glad you got it working anyway.

No I don't mean Licecap. I've never used that. I was talking about using an animated GIF with transparency and to do that you need to use 1) the overlay preset in the video processor and 2) change the "video item properties" (of the GIF "item" in the arrange view") such that it "preserves GIF transparency". You'll see.

Originally Posted by typhonj

Don't mean to short cut James

Please do! I don't mind at all. Help is help, and I'm no expert about this!

[typhonj]

Thanks James!

Hey guys, after all this, maybe we can start to call the three of us the 'Vidtrio'