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gain only plugin
i need a gain only plug with minimal possible cpu use.
free g: works without much load, but its got a fancy gui and causes funny problem for me sometimes....
js gain, etc: uses cpu enough to notice putting 32 of them on a reaper mixer as trim control! (reaper still has no trim built in!)
i thought the steinberg Again would do it, the demo vst from their sdk, but i am not a programmer. mabe i could donate to someone to compile it for me:
it needs to go from 0 at 12 o clock, to -inf one way and about 40db the other way.
any ideas? should be, by definition, simple. no gui needed, just ability to add to reaper and set track control on channel strip.
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yes ive gotten that suggestion
it only goes to +/- 12db. as useless as can be, its like its an old analog piece with limitations...
it needs to go from 0db at 12 o clock, to -inf one way and about 40db the other way.
any ideas? should be, by definition, simple. no gui needed, just ability to add to reaper and set track control on channel strip.
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its to function as a trim knob in reaper.
reaper has no trim knob built in
trim on a live board, on an analog board generally has 40-60db of gain, to adjust for low level inputs such as dynamic mics.
i operate reaper as a live mixer just the same way.
i do adjust my actual analog preamps to the source manually, but i keep them below any peak that i think will ever occur, and then use extra gain in reaper. this is so i can load several bands sound checks and recall ALL settings right to the preamp level.
for live use, even 30db of gain will not introduce ANY hiss at all
in the studio, 20db of gain on 24 channels digitally summed is just below the threshold of hiss hearing.
hey thanks, ill try that gain plug now!!!
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that gain dll works with less cpu than the one i use now, excellent!
however, default (double click point reset, and 12 0'clock position) is -96db
it needs to be 0db at 12 o clock and that also as default.
lets make it super simple:
40db max and -40 min, lets say, instead of -inf as min.
that makes it easy, -40 to 0 to +40
perfect.
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that gain dll works with less cpu than the one i use now, excellent!
however, default (double click point reset, and 12 0'clock position) is -96db
it needs to be 0db at 12 o clock and that also as default.
lets make it super simple:
40db max and -40 min, lets say, instead of -inf as min.
that makes it easy, -40 to 0 to +40
perfect.
Yeah that's not actually the default position. REAPER makes the default position to be whatever is "in the middle" as the default, even if the plugin tells it something different. I'm getting ready for work now, but I'll get you a new build by the end of the day
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tried blucat gain, uses alot of cpu for just a gain, has fancy gui, dimmable skinnable GUI, etc...
and, its a GAIN plugin, so anyone already making plugins likely has the code just by stripping down just about any project they already have.
IE the work involved mabe only a few minutes... dont wanna discourage helpfulness... (:
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yeah, but i already run it with the interface closed! i just learn/insert a reaper knob on the strip.
unless you thought reaper is thereby unloading the gui and whatever other process accociated.
besides now we have the worlds first vst volume only control properly implemented with no nonsense and reasonable gain values.
it likely processes.... something.... *other than
in = out * gain.
in our day, people have forgotten about efficiency! (oh lets add some code to the simplest things, bloat it up, make it call 4 processes to do one calculation ....
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volume plugin 32 bit works great (:
even tho its a simple ui, also mabe hitting the ui button turns it off, but since im not sure, id still like an utterly stripped version.
then ill paypal you $10
hey, ive been wanting a variable gate, where the gating has not just attack n release but ratio.
like blucat compressor. i have a skin thats super compact for blucat, http://forum.cockos.com/attachment.p...1&d=1340421208
but problem again, its got too many features, and crashes reaper in a weird unreproduceable way
HOWEVER, look at the skin. in this case, i need to get these controls, all of them, in a compact UI, why waste space like so many plugins. reason is (because i can...), ill have 12 compressor/gates open on a live set, and i need to see them all at once to see if anythings over compressing or gating.
ie reapers compressor, but with a gate build in, and with gate ratio
...and with this compact UI, the red triangle is compressor point, blue is gate point, left meter is input, right is output with output control.
yet another 10 min mod to reacomp... but then the ui... i have it in xml and css format here: http://forum.cockos.com/attachment.p...1&d=1340421815
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Nope! You're not doing anything wrong. Something probably went wrong with the build. I was away from home when I made that one and didn't get to test it on my main computer.
Nope! You're not doing anything wrong. Something probably went wrong with the build. I was away from home when I made that one and didn't get to test it on my main computer.
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doh!
i use these for fx sends too, so really i realize i need 0db at centre, 40db at top, but -inf or at least very large like -100 at the off point/full counter clockwise...
i wonder, if it could be set up to enter parameters for max, min, and centre point (or at least a max/min with centre always zero), without effecting performance in any way...
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What about using the JS: Utility/volume plugin that is included in Reaper?
I can add the parameter to the track controls but I find it difficult to fine tune it rotating the knob. since it goes from -150db to +150db
so one can easily edit the JS effect for less range.
it works on stereo.. not in surround though... I would like a multichannel version of it.
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Originally Posted by Coachz
true, with a vst you can add the knob parameter to the tracks though
I'm putting ideas together on how to best tackle this plugin. I'm not sure how to set -inf at the left and +40 at the right with 0 in the middle. I'm sure I'll work something out, though.
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js volume uses lots of processing power (for just a gain plug) ive tested it.
also doesent respond right to bcf2000 or bcr2000 automation control... lags and makes cpu go up!
multichannel would be useful, but if it takes processing when the extra channels are unticked, itd have to be a separate plugin for multichannel?
hey, how easy is it to make reaeq multi channel? id love to be able to eq a whole range of inputs at once i have to use gliseq by voxengo to do it now...
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Originally Posted by Sound asleep
What is the purpose of something like this?
reaper has no trim control as a visible knob above the fader knob, like any analog mixer has. digital trim is quiet for live use up to even 40db added, with todays preamps. so i have to put a volume only plugin in, and add a plugin knob to the area right below plugin list on the mixer...
NO ONE on earth yet writes a volume only plugin with full gain control (at least 40 or 60 db). its too simple for anyone to think.... hahaha...
and the ones i have found, use some CPU! even the js one uses cpu wierdly...
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