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04-17-2017, 03:47 PM
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Route media item to another track channel?
Is it possible to route a specific media item to a track channel other than 1/2?
If so, how?
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04-17-2017, 04:42 PM
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For example, have multiple items on a single track with some of them set to output on track channels 1/2, another to output on track channel 3, another to output on track channels 5/6, etc?
Pretty sure not.
You can have multiple channel format items on the same track. A stereo item will output on track channels 1/2. A 5.1 surround item will output on track channels 1-6. A 4 channel item with blank channels for 1/2 and audio only in channels 3/4 will only have output on track channels 3/4, etc.
But if you need the same format items (ie. mono/stereo/more) to output on different track channels per item, use multiple tracks routed as needed and put the items in the appropriate tracks.
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04-17-2017, 05:02 PM
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can with:
js utility/sender
as an fx on the item
Last edited by ericzang; 04-17-2017 at 05:11 PM.
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04-17-2017, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Is it possible to route a specific media item to a track channel other than 1/2?
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Yes possible-just pop an fx on the item itself and use the pins.
You may need to create track sends if your wanting to goto other tracks fx as well.
- sig reads= ¦Demoing Reaper for the 11th time (since 2005) starting March 23, 2017¦
Is reaper rea lly so confusing for people to use??
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04-17-2017, 05:46 PM
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Aw crap. Should have looked up item fx before hitting reply.
Seems convoluted...
I would imagine saying "Why isn't this stupid item making any soun... Oh yeah... Channels 3/4." often in such a scenario!
Last edited by serr; 04-17-2017 at 06:09 PM.
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04-18-2017, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ericzang
can with:
js utility/sender
as an fx on the item
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Great! Thank you...
However I do not have that plug-in, nor can I find it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bri1
- sig reads= ¦Demoing Reaper for the 11th time (since 2005) starting March 23, 2017¦
Is reaper rea lly so confusing for people to use??
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Yes. I actually explain this on my blog as well.
I do not think that Reaper makes it easy jump in and begin a non-trivial workflow without a lot of work.
Reaper has also only had unacceptable workarounds for certain features I need or like to have until somewhat recently.
It's not all bad though
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Originally Posted by serr
Seems convoluted...
I would imagine saying "Why isn't this stupid item making any soun... Oh yeah... Channels 3/4." often in such a scenario!
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I see this as an improvement over having Media/Take FX, at least in my workflow.
When you need FX on a specific part of a track, I see there as being 4 ways to accomplish it:
- Automation - messy, pain in the ass to make adjustments on-the-fly, can be lots of clicks to access data OR lots of open envelopes.
- Media/Item FX - good workflow, but requires a lot of clicking around to figure out what's happening on multiple media items.
- Split to another Track - probably the most common workflow in other DAWs. Creates a lot of clutter.
Then the 4th way, which is what I'm trying to accomplish here: Send from Media Item
This allows me to have all my FX on a track with an easy to reach mixer.
So I can setup a separate track that contains all the FX for affected media items. I can rename the FX to show the time and what it's doing. (I should also probably label the channel too).
Having a 'One click mixer' would also let me adjust things without having to zoom/scroll around the project.
To me this seems like an ideal workflow when there's a lot of media/take FX to be used.
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04-18-2017, 06:44 AM
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thought it was a standard one. attached:
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04-18-2017, 06:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ericzang
thought it was a standard one. attached:
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Thank you!
Edit:
Actually... this doesn't seem to do it?
Edit 2:
Restarted Reaper and now it works. ???
Last edited by Robert Randolph; 04-18-2017 at 08:08 AM.
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04-18-2017, 07:02 AM
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It appears that Media Items only have as many output channels as they have channels of data.
So I suppose that this is not possible?
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04-18-2017, 07:06 AM
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Lol- loving how people edit posts upon reaview-see this a lot.
@Robert Randolph -m8,reaper is much like life-simple,until people come along and complicate matters.
Local lost tribespeople have no problems creating beautiful musics,with just sticks and blades of grass.
Complexity can lead to confusions. K.i.s.s.=more outputs. less agro.
HTH!
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04-18-2017, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
It appears that Media Items only have as many output channels as they have channels of data.
So I suppose that this is not possible?
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Possible to have as many channels as you set.
The only impossible,is the ability to embrace the infinite variety of actual possibles,it seems here.
Amen to that^.
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04-18-2017, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bri1
Possible to have as many channels as you set.
The only impossible,is the ability to embrace the infinite variety of actual possibles,it seems here.
Amen to that^.
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Ok, so a media item can have up to 64-channels, but can channel 1/2 of a media item be routed to any other track i/o than 1/2?
I can not seem to make that happen.
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04-18-2017, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Ok, so a media item can have up to 64-channels, but can channel 1/2 of a media item be routed to any other track i/o than 1/2?
I can not seem to make that happen.
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Check +/- at the pins..you can add or subtract channel amounts.
Make sure track channel count increases with them changes.
Depends if your hitting the master io,or not rea lly.
If you sit quietly for a while with a "problem" you will find the sub-conscious already has all the answers..still the mind,and the rest will follow.......
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04-18-2017, 08:08 AM
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So first... I re-opened Reaper and the sender plug-in worked fine. I surely must have screwed something up the first time somewhere.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bri1
Check +/- at the pins..you can add or subtract channel amounts.
Make sure track channel count increases with them changes.
Depends if your hitting the master io,or not rea lly.
If you sit quietly for a while with a "problem" you will find the sub-conscious already has all the answers..still the mind,and the rest will follow.......
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Ah-ha.
So this can be done with any plug-in then, not just the Sender plug-in.
Thank you for the help, and taking the time to work with me on this.
Edit: It appears that doing this with ReaSurround is the easiest way. Excellent.
I will write up a tutorial on this, since I'm pretty sure anyone trying to follow this is scratching their head by now.
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04-18-2017, 08:11 AM
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Quote:
Ah-ha.
So this can be done with any plug-in then, not just the Sender plug-in.
Thank you for the help, and taking the time to work with me on this.
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Eureka momento?? Yes,well most plugs will do.
No problem0.
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04-18-2017, 08:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bri1
Eureka momento?? Yes,well most plugs will do.
No problem0.
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Yeah, seems any plug-in will do it, but ReaSurround lets you control the send amount easily _and_ mute the 1/2 output. (Like Sender does)
I tried with ReaEQ (and various other plug-ins) for instance, and it still outputs to 1/2 even if I have only 3/4 set as an output. So I end up having to put another ReaEQ following it to mute the 1/2 output.
ReaSurround works perfectly though.
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04-04-2021, 10:34 AM
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Acousmodules have a vst called simplepatch that makes this visually simple.
http://acousmodules.free.fr/utilities.htm
Last edited by Niall D; 04-04-2021 at 10:35 AM.
Reason: Updating info
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04-04-2021, 11:16 AM
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Indeed, but the next Reaper update will have it right inside the Item's properties :-)
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