Old 12-01-2008, 09:10 AM   #1
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Default Toneport GX not shipped with Gearbox?

I'm about to buy a Line 6 TonePort GX.
I've gathered some informations and found this
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The lack of an included VST version of Gearbox is probably the one biggest flaw that the Toneport GX has. The standalone has some nice features, but the Cabinet simulations don't quite make the cut. Using an impulse modeler in a DAW is a must for cabinet realistic sounds. To be fair though, there is no other USB audio interface in the price range that offers features as good as the Toneport does for the price.
here: http://www.zzounds.com/item--LINTONEPORTGX

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Yes, looks the same, but the colour.
And Pod Farm is included instead of Gearbox.
So...is Gearbox included or not?
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:01 AM   #2
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MichaJo,

That looks like the 'older' version, red and black, and it shows Gearbox in the picture. The price also makes me think it's the version with Gearbox (I believe the new one is more expensive). You could call zZounds customer service to check.

Gearbox and Pod Farm offer the same models. Pod Farm has an updated user interface and comes with the VST plugin where Gearbox is 'stand alone' only (VST plug is an optional purchase).

Check the Line 6 website, I think the upgrade to Pod Farm was free for GX 'users'.

I've got a Toneport UX2 and I love it. The GX for $50 is a *steal* no matter which software version comes with it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:53 AM   #3
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Thanks, bluzkat. That's what i didn't know
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...and it shows Gearbox in the picture.
So, when i buy a Line6 Toneport GX it comes with Gearbox software. Good
At their website they don't offer it anymore but the GX POD Studio version instead with PodFarm software and at a higher price.
So i'll try to get an older GX (55,- Euro here in Germany, about 69,- Dollars)


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Old 12-01-2008, 10:57 AM   #4
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Since the upgrade to PodFarm, some of my presets sound different. Not by much, but little stuff like the noise gate and little EQ things. I'm sure this can be attributed to some difference in programming between the two programs, but I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed anything similar? Any of your presets sound TOTALLY different?
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:18 AM   #5
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Additional question, don't want to open an extra thread for it:
Can i use the Toneport by just connecting it's out to analog in of an EMU 0404?
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:44 AM   #6
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Additional question, don't want to open an extra thread for it:
Can i use the Toneport by just connecting it's out to analog in of an EMU 0404?
You can record the analog out that way but you still need to plug the USB in to power it and to use the gearbox or podfarm processing.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:43 PM   #7
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Just so youre aware... when you register your gearbox software you can get a free (at least it was for me and I own the toneport gx as mentioned above) upgrade to pod farm. You can still keep gearbox too. (as in, I have/use both gearbox and pod farm)
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:34 PM   #8
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...and don't forget Podfarm doesn't work correctly in Reaper yet (no audio), so you'll have to run it inside Acon FX Chainer or something similar until it's updated.

Or use Gearbox instead.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:24 PM   #9
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Don't get confused.
There are two versions of Gearbox and two versions of Podfarm.

If you buy the normal GX or Podfarm GX you don't get the VST versions of the above included but you do get the standalone versions which I use all the time.

Gearbox and Podfarm standalone are so good IMHO that I do not even want the VST versions.

You can get bogged down having too many options and there's are so many permutations within the standalone GB/PF and they record so easily I don't need any more hassle from the VST versions

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Old 12-01-2008, 05:46 PM   #10
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those of us with a healthy dose of OCD can appreciate having limits on options

I record two tracks any more through my UX2 - which I LOVE:

1 stereo track - records send 1 and 2, or 'wet' signal through gearbox
2 stereo track - records sends 3 and 4, or 'dry' signal straight from guitar

add revalver as an effect to track 2, mix with Line6 tone from track 1.

Monster, hairy, razor fanged guitars

If you got the VST version of Gearbox or Pod Farm I suppose you could do the same thing - even record 4 dry mono tracks and add amp models to taste. You could spend 4 days on one guitar track if you wanted. OCDgasm!

I'm becoming a big fan of recording stuff dry.
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those of us with a healthy dose of OCD can appreciate having limits on options

I record two tracks any more through my UX2 - which I LOVE:

1 stereo track - records send 1 and 2, or 'wet' signal through gearbox
2 stereo track - records sends 3 and 4, or 'dry' signal straight from guitar

add revalver as an effect to track 2, mix with Line6 tone from track 1.

Monster, hairy, razor fanged guitars

If you got the VST version of Gearbox or Pod Farm I suppose you could do the same thing - even record 4 dry mono tracks and add amp models to taste. You could spend 4 days on one guitar track if you wanted. OCDgasm!

I'm becoming a big fan of recording stuff dry.
Next you will be telling me you are an,"AudioPhile" and I think they should be locked up for playing with under-age frequencies<BFG>.Heh Heh
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I think you should make sure you get the plugin. Just for the ability to adjust the guitar tone later in Reaper. I bought the KB37 then ended up buying the plugin gold pack in a sale for $49.95. It is really cool to have a guitarist play through the Line6 effects with low latency, but record their guitar dry. Then you can totally change the tone later, but keep the feel.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:17 PM   #13
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I think you should make sure you get the plugin. Just for the ability to adjust the guitar tone later in Reaper. I bought the KB37 then ended up buying the plugin gold pack in a sale for $49.95. It is really cool to have a guitarist play through the Line6 effects with low latency, but record their guitar dry. Then you can totally change the tone later, but keep the feel.
I've followed your links and listened to some of you material.Excellent production but can't hear any guitar usage?Do you have any links where you have used the VST versions of Gearbox/Podfarm please?
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There are some more indi rock sounds in a demo I just did on my Sonicbids site. It's track 3 'Trilby Demo'. Theres big fuzz at 8:30.

http://www.sonicbids.com/epk/epk.aspx?epk_id=168343

The other two tracks have guitar also but it's more a Barry White porn wah kind of thing. I love that stereo filter effect (sweeper I think for getting that wet sound. Also the tube delay gets nice and thin and crunchy, great when used subtly.

For me the Gearbox is the best fuzz bass sound. I have also have got some great LoFi emo style vocals sounds (at 6:45 on the above demo). I'm more of a producer, programmer and synth guy so most of my Line6 stuff is done on things apart from guitar.
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Don't get confused.
Easier sad than done.
I am!
If i don't get the version with the VST (it's cheaper) then i can't record e.g. one of the gearbox' amp sound within Reaper, let's say via it's lineout into my soundcard?
Is that right?
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Yes. That's how I use it.
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Old 12-02-2008, 01:06 AM   #17
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Yeah, I'd get the vst version as well. It's the same sound as the standalone, except you CAN change your mind later about the tone, plus layer different amps, and even reamp through a miced amp later. If you run it in Reaper it's almost as fast to start up anyway, just have a template saved with Gearbox already set up and armed (or auto-armed).
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I think you should make sure you get the plugin. Just for the ability to adjust the guitar tone later in Reaper. I bought the KB37 then ended up buying the plugin gold pack in a sale for $49.95. It is really cool to have a guitarist play through the Line6 effects with low latency, but record their guitar dry. Then you can totally change the tone later, but keep the feel.
That's right. I bought a GX and have to buy a Silver Bundle(which comes with the TonePort DI. Now, I can record dry & wet and at the same time output to my Alesis IO26 and all this with almost 0 latency, YES!!!

The GX will be a Christmas present for my daughter, who is becoming a very good rocker...

BTW I just check, and musician's friend has SO the bundles. Amazon still have the Silver Bundle but at $99...
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:38 AM   #19
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After all i think the TonePort GX (including the Gearbox standalone) will be entirely sufficient.
My local dealer tries to get it anywhere. It's no longer available by his wholesaler, just the TonePort Pod Studio GX.
(I could get it in exchange for my Marshall MG10CD).
So thanks for all your replies.
Really very helpful.
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