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10-13-2008, 06:59 AM
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Wish You Were Here
Leave a man with a guitar alone in a studio ;-)
http://animaband.pl/Wish.mp3
This is one of my favorite songs. I hope I wasn't destroy it ;-)
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10-13-2008, 09:54 AM
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Nah!Sounds good dude.
Love the GTR tone ya got there.
How did you mike it?
One of my fav's too.
Bardo
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10-13-2008, 10:43 AM
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Very nice, Jurek.
Gonna go play the album now ...
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10-15-2008, 01:21 AM
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Thank you very much
The mic for the guitar was one Rode NT-5 - pointed about 12 - 14-th fret.
I'm during making an album (EP as a matter of fact, 5 tracks so far ). This cover is only just for a training The vocal in last verse isn't quite right...
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10-18-2008, 05:44 PM
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Damn!....that is one full bodied guitar sound right there, I guess the the Rode is doing it's thing, what guitar are you playing?, it's well balanced, sounds great..
Good song, well done..
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10-19-2008, 02:50 PM
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i never thought i'd have any interest in ever hearing that song again, but i really dig your version.
great playing, singing and recording.
i too would like to know what kind of guitar you're playing.
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10-20-2008, 04:06 AM
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Wow! Many thanks for you Good People!
I think Rode is quite cheap mic. I heard that i.e. Neumann KM84 does these things very well
The guitar is Taylor 210. It's 'low' model, but very nice specimen I found recently in second-hand music shop.
My friend recently showed me a better way to catch an acoustic guitar. So this song been recorded yesterday in a bit different way:
http://animaband.pl/Piosenka_dla_dzieci-final.mp3
It is a simple song I've written for my newborn Baby
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10-20-2008, 05:12 AM
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Hi Jurek
These recordings sound great. Do you have any more hints about mic'ing the guitar? Obviously you have done it right.
I like the room FX you have, too. It sounds naural and pleasant. I presume it's a plugin?
cheers
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10-20-2008, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurek
Wow! Many thanks for you Good People!
I think Rode is quite cheap mic. I heard that i.e. Neumann KM84 does these things very well
The guitar is Taylor 210. It's 'low' model, but very nice specimen I found recently in second-hand music shop.
My friend recently showed me a better way to catch an acoustic guitar. So this song been recorded yesterday in a bit different way:
http://animaband.pl/Piosenka_dla_dzieci-final.mp3
It is a simple song I've written for my newborn Baby
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Jurek,
I haven't got a clue to what you're singing , but I really enjoyed the song. It has a *good* feel and the recording was very nice.
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10-22-2008, 02:46 AM
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Thank you Anomaly & Bluzkat!
In second recording I used a pair of NT-5. One mic was - as before - pointed about 15-th fret (13, 14 maybe ), the second one - about 10 cm higher and pointed at a hole. The reverb is CSR Room.
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10-22-2008, 07:45 AM
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I decided to do some experiment with mixing ac. guitar. The link to a song remains the same
http://animaband.pl/Piosenka_dla_dzieci-final.mp3
It seemes sound better without a compressor on guitar track. Anyway, I think for ac. guitar there should be very good compressor. I don't know VST that could manage that. I also reduced comp. ratio on vocal track.
If someone would be interested, here is lyrics for the song (excuse me for my poor English ):
Song For Children
I cannot find the words to describe that moment
You start a life defenceless as a flower
Your light smile on a small face
Remains lasting mark in a heart
Chorus:
You are so small but you mean so much for me
It seems to me that God reflects in you
I already know that I forgive you everything
How you are my child - so I am yours
I was sitting in a front of a blank page
So hard to say something to your eyes
And the words are sometimes incomprehensible
So I'll whisper 'I love you' - only in my eyes
Chorus...
How long the worlds conduct their wars
How long the tears soak into this Earth
Hey Greats of this planet - look sometimes
Into child's eyes - they want to ask you something
Chorus...
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10-22-2008, 02:25 PM
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Yeah, you have to watch the attack time or it kills the transients on the acoustic. It sounds good raw, use automation to tame it.
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10-23-2008, 07:54 AM
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Wywh...
Good guitar. But vocal is out of mix (maybe bad reverb on vocal). I think vocal need improvement and guitat playing must be more clear, accurate and sharp...
Last edited by Fragile; 10-23-2008 at 08:00 AM.
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10-24-2008, 01:28 AM
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Which song do you mean, Fragile?
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10-24-2008, 01:12 PM
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Wish you were here...
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10-24-2008, 03:10 PM
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Jurek,
Good recording.
"Wish You Were Here" is a song I'm very familiar with.
If you would like me to add the acoustic lead part in the beginning, let me know. You would have to add a few measures to your intro though.
I could do the harmony vocal on the last verse too if you're interested.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
SW
Last edited by ScalerWave; 10-27-2008 at 10:53 AM.
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10-24-2008, 08:31 PM
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Love that song....fantastic rendition! Trying to determine your country of origin...Germany? (No intent to offend).... I use a RØDE mic as well (NT1000), been impressed with them from first connection!
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10-25-2008, 04:16 PM
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Jurek, it's true that acoustic guitar brings many compressor into knees. I'd like to recommend you to try a compressor called endorphin ( http://www.digitalfishphones.com/mai...em=2&subItem=3), unless you have already tried. I think it sounds just superb on ac. No pumping, no attack suction. Thanks for the recording tips.
I'll check your new mix soon.
cheers
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10-27-2008, 05:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragile
Wish you were here...
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You are right, especially last verse. But this was not so serious, just to warm up before something else ;-)
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10-27-2008, 05:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScalerWave
Jerek,
If you would like me to add the acoustic lead part in the beginning, let me know. You would have to add a few measures to your intro though.
I could do the harmony vocal on the last verse too if you're interested.
SW
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I think it's good idea Though, I'm afraid it's to poor version. I should do it again, with click etc. Maybe I try at weekend - I will let you know, ok?
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10-27-2008, 05:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Syd Masters
Love that song....fantastic rendition! Trying to determine your country of origin...Germany? (No intent to offend).... I use a RØDE mic as well (NT1000), been impressed with them from first connection!
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Thank you I'm Polish
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10-27-2008, 05:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anomaly
I'd like to recommend you to try a compressor called endorphin
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Many thanks - I will try it!
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10-27-2008, 09:57 AM
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Jurek,
Using click would make things a bit easier for me and tighen things up a bit, good idea. Since you are using Reaper, you could just tell me the BPM you used when tracking and I could just turn on my metronome on Reaper here. It should be in sync.
I could add the 12 string part also for a bit more authenticity. I would just add the notes and not strum the 12 string since that is how it sounds in the original.
Yeah, let me know how the new version turns out.
When I play this tune, I like to add the F# note on the 6th string when playing the D chord. Adding the low G note on the 6th string for the C chord gives the C chord a nice full sound also.
I'll do a little demo of the lead part and post a link so you can check it out. I just play it note for note instead of doing a variation.
SW
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurek
I think it's good idea Though, I'm afraid it's to poor version. I should do it again, with click etc. Maybe I try at weekend - I will let you know, ok?
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Last edited by ScalerWave; 10-27-2008 at 10:53 AM.
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10-27-2008, 10:53 AM
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Jurek,
Here is a link to the demo.
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/275402/...20demo%201.wav
I should have rendered it in .mp3 format but I don't have the mp3 encoder for Reaper. It's not that big though....only about 6MB.
I used Loser's "fake stereo" plug to make the lead part a bit more pronounced.
SW
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10-28-2008, 11:22 AM
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I love the song, and you've done a very nice job of it.
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11-06-2008, 07:30 AM
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Thank you, Martygras
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Originally Posted by ScalerWave
Jurek,
Here is a link to the demo.
I should have rendered it in .mp3 format but I don't have the mp3 encoder for Reaper. It's not that big though....only about 6MB.
SW
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Very nice job. What guitar have you used? Very good sound!
You can get lame_enc.dll from somewhere in the web (it's free) and put it to Reaper dir and you are ready to render to mp3
I'm not sure if click will be the same. I'm afraid that it depends on the interface's clock. To be sure I think we need a click track rendered to a 16-bit wav and sent over.
But now I'm just finishing my record and I have to do some recording and mixing in next few days (and nights). A lot of work, in fact! After this and after few days-rest I would think about our song
See you later!
Jurek
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11-06-2008, 11:47 AM
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Jurek,
Take your time...no hurry. It was just a thought. I didn't know that you were working on a record.
The guitar that I played in the clip was a Larrivee.
Thanks for the compliments and the heads-up on the mp3 encoder.
I'll check into that one.
SW
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