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09-13-2013, 12:21 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Right Hear
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fantastic vst plugin IMO
http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_MB7Mixer/
quite amazing IMO.... that you can insert other vst FX on a particular freq band and then a diff fx on a diff freq band... in fact two diff fx on each... so, for instance ..want some delay but only on the low end? can be done...
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09-13-2013, 12:24 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lincoln, UK
Posts: 7,924
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JS splitter/ combiners..?
REAPER Track channels?
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09-13-2013, 12:33 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 4,846
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I use reafir to make steep filters and split tracks into different frequency bands. The plugin looks convenient but very pricey for what it does.
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09-13-2013, 08:15 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Right Hear
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before you decide it's too pricey, etc. give it a try
I stand on what I have said about it... and I'm not a blue cat rep nor affiliated in any way...
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09-13-2013, 09:55 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 215
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Spendy! 'Specially if you can do it with JS!
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09-13-2013, 10:11 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Belgium
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hopi
before you decide it's too pricey, etc. give it a try
I stand on what I have said about it... and I'm not a blue cat rep nor affiliated in any way...
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You can make same thing with reaper since reaper 3
Read the book "breaking barrier with REAPER" http://www.lulu.com/shop/geoffrey-fr...t-6526524.html
I think you will learn plenty of things.
you can watch this if you want (sorry i speak french in the video)
http://youtu.be/Hv-tu4jg5jU?t=5m5s
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09-13-2013, 10:18 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hopi
before you decide it's too pricey, etc. give it a try
I stand on what I have said about it... and I'm not a blue cat rep nor affiliated in any way...
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Give it up Hopi. Reaper is God so nobody needs that plugin.
Nice plugin actually. It's quite often not about - what - a thing does, but - how - it does it. Sometimes (gasp! perish the thought!) we pay just to make some things a little easier.
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09-13-2013, 10:30 AM
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Mortal
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wickenburg, Arizona
Posts: 14,047
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This plugin saves several steps that I currently do with the JS plugs. For bass guitar I can see this thing as a serious hair saver
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09-13-2013, 10:33 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I have no real personal need for it, but I do see the value in it.
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09-13-2013, 10:35 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Right Hear
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thanks L and P... I'm in agreement with you both...
sometimes, saving time is worth a few bucks, eh?
OK then... I'll just leave it
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09-13-2013, 10:44 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,567
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something in the air today?
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09-13-2013, 10:57 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Miami
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It is cool (I'm a fan of Blue Cat) but in this case I vastly prefer DDMF's Metaplugin which offers similar functionality with (imo) a much better interface.
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09-13-2013, 12:02 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kent, UK
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All i'm saying is the price is a bit steep imo. If it was halved it would be a very attractive buy. I've used a few blue cat plugins and they are definitely very nice.
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09-13-2013, 12:43 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Very cool idea. It seems like an extremely flexible plugin that everybody who uses it will have a completely different use for. I've seen tons of plugins that cost that much that do far less. It's always good to see something like this get released and recognized.
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09-13-2013, 02:23 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reno.thestraws
MusicMan a vendre
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Lovely Bass! They are making them again! Did I see a e5000 price tag? Not sure exactly. I remember first seeing Musicman's on stage, they were very popular late 70's. Does yours have stripey pants guy on headstock?
Wish I played bass and had the money!
sorry OT.
Last edited by FKAB; 09-13-2013 at 02:29 PM.
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09-13-2013, 02:29 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 29,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
Give it up Hopi. Reaper is God so nobody needs that plugin.
Nice plugin actually. It's quite often not about - what - a thing does, but - how - it does it. Sometimes (gasp! perish the thought!) we pay just to make some things a little easier.
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As much as I'm a DYI guy, I'd use that BC plugin for that purpose any day of the week. The its already in Reaper logic in this comparison is right up there with...
"We wrote our 1 billion dollar enterprise web site with notepad because we hate bloated web tools".
Meaning 990 million was spent on labor burned using notepad which is lightweight but 1000 times slower to develop in. I'm might have to pick that puppy up.
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Last edited by karbomusic; 09-13-2013 at 04:27 PM.
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09-13-2013, 04:20 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Europe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pipelineaudio
This plugin saves several steps that I currently do with the JS plugs. For bass guitar I can see this thing as a serious hair saver
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How much you have still left?
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09-13-2013, 04:37 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Right Hear
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DDMF metaplugin is also 'kewl' but it's not the same tool as this... just to be clear...
so hey... some like the idea, some don't... LOL what else is nude?
I'll just mosey along now...
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09-13-2013, 05:59 PM
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Mortal
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wickenburg, Arizona
Posts: 14,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHA
How much you have still left?
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Not enough! Every bit counts
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09-13-2013, 07:01 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berlin
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Mmh. Nice. It looks efficient and compact.
79 Euros is no big thing for the kind of time it might save you. It may not be all that necessary for the hobbyist.
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09-14-2013, 06:28 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Being something of the Gorrilla recordist/engineer (Pipelineaudio too for the record) and very normally the "This is a bit expensive and can be done with plugins/track channels blah in Reaper"
Some of these plugins really do save you hours setting and experimenting with this stuff, and because a lot of it is laid out in a very simple single interface, the experimenting becomes more intuitive.
I currently use the Hornet Xover for these tasks myself but could easily see this being a purchase down the road if i out grow Xover.
lets never underestimate usability vs ability (Reaper has a lot of ability that a lot of people never use and actually replace with other plugins/add ons, because the usability is not there)
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09-14-2013, 06:43 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,567
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lawrence suggested plural eyes to me
it does one task really well, that I need to do often with video.
its 179.
I would spend quite a long time (sometimes hours) syncing up little video clips to multiple source audio (I'm not some kind of video guru)
plural eyes does it in under 2 minutes.
It has paid for itself (at my current rate), and I probably have an extended lifespan.
sure, I could do it on my own but...
that being said, man everyone's so defensive lol
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09-14-2013, 06:53 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 288
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gpunk_w
Being something of the Gorrilla recordist/engineer (Pipelineaudio too for the record) and very normally the "This is a bit expensive and can be done with plugins/track channels blah in Reaper"
Some of these plugins really do save you hours setting and experimenting with this stuff, and because a lot of it is laid out in a very simple single interface, the experimenting becomes more intuitive.
I currently use the Hornet Xover for these tasks myself but could easily see this being a purchase down the road if i out grow Xover.
lets never underestimate usability vs ability (Reaper has a lot of ability that a lot of people never use and actually replace with other plugins/add ons, because the usability is not there)
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Very good point. If (professional) people have a pretty strict timeline such tools can come in handy. Time = money.
As a former Reason Power User (well, I would describe myself as that) I am pretty much satisfied with what I have learned in more than 5 years of Reason routing madness. Was pretty excited that Reaper can do things nearly the same and I like chaining stuff manually.
Regards
Sebastian
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09-14-2013, 07:05 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill
I'm not some kind of video guru
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Actually it is something of a secret weapon with video gurus too haha
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09-14-2013, 08:27 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill
It has paid for itself (at my current rate), and I probably have an extended lifespan.
sure, I could do it on my own but...
that being said, man everyone's so defensive lol
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Lol. Yeah. Here's another analogy...
Reaper has Reaverbate or whatever so you can scour the net and find free impulses and build yourself a library and eventually end up with a nice collection of impulses and presets you have to build one by one that are usable for you.
Or ... you can just go buy SIR 2 and save all that time for something else.
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09-14-2013, 10:10 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
Lol. Yeah. Here's another analogy...
Reaper has Reaverbate or whatever so you can scour the net and find free impulses and build yourself a library and eventually end up with a nice collection of impulses and presets you have to build one by one that are usable for you.
Or ... you can just go buy SIR 2 and save all that time for something else.
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and that approach is great if you don't have much work - me in 2007, for instance. It was great building up things that I benefit from even now.
In a sense, you're creating your own work and paying yourself for it. But getting real money from someone else is probably a better idea
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09-14-2013, 10:54 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Surrey, UK
Posts: 19,677
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airon
Mmh. Nice. It looks efficient and compact.
79 Euros is no big thing for the kind of time it might save you. It may not be all that necessary for the hobbyist.
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I was interested too. But when I got to the Checkout in jumped the additional ~20% VAT. It left a rather sour taste in my mouth and put me off (temporarily?). I fully understand that VAT has to be charged, but, imo, it would be much better if the VAT-inclusive price were quoted up front and then deducted if not relevant.
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09-14-2013, 11:31 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 623
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
I was interested too. But when I got to the Checkout in jumped the additional ~20% VAT. It left a rather sour taste in my mouth and put me off (temporarily?). I fully understand that VAT has to be charged, but, imo, it would be much better if the VAT-inclusive price were quoted up front and then deducted if not relevant.
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Same here with S-Gear last week, e75 to e95, Makes as difference when you go to hit that 'checkout' button. Yes they should be more up-front about it!
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09-15-2013, 11:03 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 22,754
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reno.thestraws
(sorry i speak french in the video)
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Non - tu parles BELGE!
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09-15-2013, 11:26 AM
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#30
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Belgium
Posts: 10,474
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C'est vrai
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09-15-2013, 12:01 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berlin
Posts: 11,817
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill
lawrence suggested plural eyes to me
it does one task really well, that I need to do often with video.
its 179.
I would spend quite a long time (sometimes hours) syncing up little video clips to multiple source audio (I'm not some kind of video guru)
plural eyes does it in under 2 minutes.
It has paid for itself (at my current rate), and I probably have an extended lifespan.
sure, I could do it on my own but...
that being said, man everyone's so defensive lol
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Totally worth it.
For the same reason tools like those from Maggot Software or Syncro Arts are worth their asking price.
I used the Plural Eyes trial for a one-off job of syncing all recorder audio to camera(with a shitty mic) footage in Premiere for this documentary. It would have paid for itself within a few days if I did this stuff often.
As Gpunk already stated, convenience and usability frees up time.
Last edited by airon; 09-15-2013 at 01:24 PM.
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