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12-16-2011, 09:35 AM
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Steven Slate Drums - upgrading to 4.0 etc
Well. The man himself is dropping constant hints on Twitter at a new version coming out any one of the these days now.
I was looking to buy SSD 3.5 but now I saw Audio Deluxe selling the licenses at half price on eBay ($44 for EX and $125 for Platinum). It's only available for 2 days, which has lead me to believe SSd4 might come out in two days.
Now do you suppose it's cheaper to buy Platinum at $125 and then buy an upgrade in a few days or just to wait for the new version? How much do you think SSD4 Platinum will go for? Any guesses on the upgrade?
What do you think about this whole thing?
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12-16-2011, 11:35 AM
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Slate are as usually very quiet...no one has details we only know it's coming soon.
The only thing we have is that Slate himself posted on his blog that 4.0 will give one hell of a run for their money "other" drum software, even those with "superior" in their name. His pun, not mine
Upgrade pricing will most likely be the same same in the end as if purchasing new or at least very close. Personally, I'd wait...Slate is going to be flooded in the first few days and you won't be getting you 4.0 license the same day you order the upgrade for sure.
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12-16-2011, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vassago
Upgrade pricing will most likely be the same same in the end as if purchasing new or at least very close.
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I figure that'd be the case if I bought it new in the ~$300 range, but those deals on eBay are pretty sweet. I mean, $125 for Platinum?! If the update is $150 that's still under $300 and I don't think 4.0 will go for less than $350.
This is a massive dilemma for me I mean, I'd love to have SSD without Kontakt but I'm fine with the 3.5 library for now, so I could have that rather cheaply now. Or I could wait and take my chances, but I just don't think they're gonna put their new stuff out very cheap...seeing how it's christmas and all
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12-17-2011, 06:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
Well. The man himself is dropping constant hints on Twitter at a new version coming out any one of the these days now.
I was looking to buy SSD 3.5 but now I saw Audio Deluxe selling the licenses at half price on eBay ($44 for EX and $125 for Platinum). It's only available for 2 days, which has lead me to believe SSd4 might come out in two days.
Now do you suppose it's cheaper to buy Platinum at $125 and then buy an upgrade in a few days or just to wait for the new version? How much do you think SSD4 Platinum will go for? Any guesses on the upgrade?
What do you think about this whole thing?
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Are you planning to use SSD 3.5 at all or just trying to save money on v4? I have 3.5 EX and two expansions I got for $99 in like 2009 or something. It does sound pretty dated now but the cymbals are still cool. At any rate Slate is very cool about upgrade pricing even for "lesser" users like us EX'ers.
Since I really only used the Bonham kits I found the analoguedrums.com Plastique set to be more useful.
-robo
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12-17-2011, 07:52 AM
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I got Trigger EX when it was on sale and I'm not crazy about the sounds that came with it. Waaaaay to much processing for my tastes.
I use BFD because the sounds are beautifully recorded raw sounds that I can then make my own.
Hopefully Slate will come with less processed sounds.
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12-17-2011, 11:50 PM
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SSD4 is gonna be awesome...
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12-18-2011, 02:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robo
Since I really only used the Bonham kits I found the analoguedrums.com Plastique set to be more useful.
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Ooooh yeah, now you're talking... I'm amazed by the Analogue Drums stuff.
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12-19-2011, 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Tie
Ooooh yeah, now you're talking... I'm amazed by the Analogue Drums stuff.
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Full Kontakt only
- Mario
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12-19-2011, 09:35 AM
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Kontakt is a big pain, wish I hadn't jumped on EX so quick - Addictive Drums just works, 4.0 better have a stand alone interface that is that straightforward....
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12-20-2011, 07:00 AM
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Turns out the sale is still on at audiodeluxe.com. They have crazy prices for Toontrack stuff too. Can't wait to see SSD 4. Slate just tweeted a screenshot of the new gui, good thing they dumped Kontakt.
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12-21-2011, 03:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Tie
Ooooh yeah, now you're talking... I'm amazed by the Analogue Drums stuff.
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Thanks!
I recorded that stuff for my friends (one of which i've been friends with for 16 years now!) at York St.
They're editing up another couple of kits we recorded a few months ago.
I think it would be great if they had their own player but there's really only 2 of them involved and neither of them are plugin developers. I did give them a kick in the pants about kontakt though after i showed them SSD in kontakt so at least that's now improved. Baby steps.
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12-22-2011, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainHook
Thanks!
I recorded that stuff for my friends (one of which i've been friends with for 16 years now!) at York St.
They're editing up another couple of kits we recorded a few months ago.
I think it would be great if they had their own player but there's really only 2 of them involved and neither of them are plugin developers. I did give them a kick in the pants about kontakt though after i showed them SSD in kontakt so at least that's now improved. Baby steps.
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You are awesome! York's room is so lovely. Make some IRs for analoguedrums to distribute so I can blend in other instruments with the drums.
I personally love Kontakt, because once you dig in and learn it nothing can stop you. NI is lame and charges huge amounts to license for the free player so small companies like analoguedrums end up releasing for the /pro version.
If only Cockos bought NI
-robo
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12-22-2011, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robo
Make some IRs for analoguedrums to distribute so I can blend in other instruments with the drums.
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Do you mean make some IRs of the York St live room or .. ?
I've never actually looked into the process of making IRs. Is it difficult? Any good resource(s)?
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12-18-2011, 05:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robo
Are you planning to use SSD 3.5 at all or just trying to save money on v4? I have 3.5 EX and two expansions I got for $99 in like 2009 or something. It does sound pretty dated now but the cymbals are still cool. At any rate Slate is very cool about upgrade pricing even for "lesser" users like us EX'ers.
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Well, I would only buy Platinum 3.5 so I can get 4.0 more cheaply by upgrading I'd love to get rid of Kontakt which I find a bit clumsy.
If the upgrade is somehow ridiculously expensive I'd just stick with 3.5 until there's a sale. The sale is still on, 125$ for the d/l version. I'm really itchin' to buy but Slate obviously is not giving any pricing for an upgrade so I haven't yet done so.
I like the pre-processed drums, saves me some time and I can't get the same results with raw wavs that Slate offers anyway. They sound good as they are and there's enough variety for my purposes. I have Battery 3 that has a bunch of raw kits and can load free sample kits into it too, if I need that kinda thing. Btw, thanks for telling me about Analogue...I downloaded their Big Mono kit for Battery 3, we'll see how it sounds
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12-18-2011, 08:36 AM
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I have EX from that audiomidi no brainer while back and I understand I will likely be looking at about $99 to upgrade to 4.0 which seems like a bargain to me always assuming it is as super duper as Steven is claiming...
I don'y know anyone wh beta tests for them, so who knows?
I will prolly' no make that certainly' upgrade, as that is less than half of one months US Social Security pension for me!
And before any Americans freak out, my pension was reduced because I live in the Uk and also get a small pension from them.
(AXE GRINDING ALERT) Cheap s.o.b's - I have paid in enough to be fully vested in both systems but apparently it is a "windfall" as far as me being able to actually claim full benefit from both. I said "well since you took all my money and are only paying me part of what I paid in for, can I have my money back, please?"
Still waiting on that one....
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12-19-2011, 07:57 AM
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Well, the sale is gone now..damn :P Back to $249 and $79.
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12-22-2011, 06:18 PM
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Just bought 3 EX for $50, haven't really used it because I find getting around in Kontakt obfuscated - and mapping my Addictive Drums midi to SSD EX "not a lot of fun". I could have saved the $50 and would only be in for another $100 to get 4.0 Platinum - AND I would have solved the pain of having to use Kontakt and it also looks like mapping to AD midi would also be more straight forward.
Great. On the other hand, it looks a lot friendlier than Kontakt, and including loading user samples/stacking samples is "as it should be". Frak.
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