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04-23-2017, 07:55 AM
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How to "delete time" in Reaper?
I want to take a time selection and nuke everything in it. Including the current beat/measure/whatever.
Is this possible to do somehow, or is it bound to be a totally manual process?
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04-23-2017, 08:06 AM
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Time selection: Remove contents of time selection (moving later items)
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04-23-2017, 08:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfillion
Time selection: Remove contents of time selection (moving later items)
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Unfortunately, this does not delete time, it only deletes the items in the selection.
I need to adjust the tempo/time signature so that the project time is moved with later items as well.
For instance deleting a beat in a musical project, while maintaining the following downbeat.
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04-23-2017, 08:42 AM
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Quote:
Unfortunately, this does not delete time, it only deletes the items in the selection.
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Try all the ripple options.
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04-23-2017, 09:14 AM
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Personally i just create a region around the area and then move it or delete it, saves me trying to remember to mess with ripple lol
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04-23-2017, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gpunk_w
Personally i just create a region around the area and then move it or delete it, saves me trying to remember to mess with ripple lol
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Region's don't affect time either unless I'm missing something.
Maybe I'm just explaining myself poorly, but I'm not sure how to be more clear.
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04-23-2017, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Randolph
Unfortunately, this does not delete time, it only deletes the items in the selection.
I need to adjust the tempo/time signature so that the project time is moved with later items as well.
For instance deleting a beat in a musical project, while maintaining the following downbeat.
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It does that here (shortens the previous measure by a beat):
If that's not it, can you show an example of what you're trying to accomplish before/after?
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04-23-2017, 09:44 AM
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You can't delete time. Second 2 will always follow second 1. You can't take a few seconds out and make the timeline go Sec1, Sec5, Sec6. Time doesn't work like that.
You can delete notes or lumps of audio and either leave a gap or move the following notes/audio up to close the time gap (ripple edit). But if you delete the first beat from a measure you can't have the second beat stay as a downbeat. It's only a downbeat because there's an upbeat in front of it and now there isn't, you've just deleted it.
No, I've decided I have no idea what you mean either.
Steve
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04-23-2017, 09:51 AM
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Under the assumption that I am explaining myself poorly, let me demonstrate:
I have this custom action which does _almost_ what I want.
The issue is that I have to keep track of the time signature that I want, which can sometimes be very.... weird depending on where the time selection is made.
Here is a very basic demonstrating of the result that I am looking for:
The issue becomes obvious when:
- you are not cutting right on the beat
- if you are already in a complex time and need to take a moment to calculate things
- have existing tempo markers
- need to modify tempo as well (requires 2 actions and experimentation to figure out which will give the results
So currently I have somewhat of a messy manual workflow to cut time like this, which requires a lot of experimentation and messing about. The product I'm coming from makes this a good bit simpler though.
I'm sure I'm just thinking about this wrong, it seems like I'm so close.
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04-23-2017, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfillion
It does that here (shortens the previous measure by a beat):
If that's not it, can you show an example of what you're trying to accomplish before/after?
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That's what I want... but it's not working like that here.
I see you have some tempo markers, which I also setup, but it's not moving for me as well.
What am I missing here?
edit: This is what's occurring for me
No time is deleted, only items/objects.
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04-23-2017, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slipstick
You can't delete time. Second 2 will always follow second 1. You can't take a few seconds out and make the timeline go Sec1, Sec5, Sec6. Time doesn't work like that.
You can delete notes or lumps of audio and either leave a gap or move the following notes/audio up to close the time gap (ripple edit). But if you delete the first beat from a measure you can't have the second beat stay as a downbeat. It's only a downbeat because there's an upbeat in front of it and now there isn't, you've just deleted it.
No, I've decided I have no idea what you mean either.
Steve
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What I'm asking for is basically "Transport: Play (skip time selection)", except I want the time selection and associated beats/measures/ticks/whatever deleted instead of skipped.
Everything before is mapped to the same measures/beats/ticks/whatever and everything after is mapped to the same measures/beats/ticks/whatever.
Does that make more sense?
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04-23-2017, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Randolph
edit: This is what's occurring for me
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Try with the "Start new measure" option enabled in the rightmost tempo marker.
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04-23-2017, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfillion
Try with the "Start new measure" option enabled in the rightmost tempo marker.
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That's it!
Now if only there was an action for "Create measure from time selection (current time signature)...", then I could make this 1 total custom action.
Time to check Reapack and see if there's something I can integrate here. I will update if I figure out something! Should be reascriptable.
Thank you cfillion, this is definitely an improvement!
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04-23-2017, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Randolph
No time is deleted, only items/objects.
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You are drawing your selection on the item where he is drawing his selection in an empty space, which creates a time selection.
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04-23-2017, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffsounds
You are drawing your selection on the item where he is drawing his selection in an empty space, which creates a time selection.
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My settings are as such where the default right-drag action is to create a time selection.
Thank you though.
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04-23-2017, 11:05 AM
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As promised...
This is my first Reaper script attempt, so I'm sure I did something less than stellar, maybe. However, it does exactly what I want. It should work well with existing tempo maps.
Please let me know if there's something wrong with it, or if you find it useful.
Thank you everyone for the assistance!
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09-24-2018, 07:35 PM
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Hey Robert! This script is damn useful, great for film scoring, thanks a lot!
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09-24-2018, 07:37 PM
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I have ripple editing off, and using
Time selection: remove contents of time selection (moving later items) does the trick. It cuts items, too.
Before:
After:
Last edited by Fergler; 09-24-2018 at 07:44 PM.
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09-24-2018, 07:39 PM
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Yeah, but check what it does with the time signature, the script adjusts it.
If you remove 1/4 of a bar, it will change the time signature to 3/4.
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09-25-2018, 04:21 AM
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Hi Robert Randolph,
this is so simple but also pretty amazing. I tried it out and it worked as expected. Its a really cool tool to bring sudden changes into a song with surprising breaks and unexpected measures. Many thanks for this gift and your effort.
Greetings from Germany to Russia
Eli
Edit: Okay! lol After a second sight at your location i rather send greetings to the USA than to Russia! Never mind.
Last edited by Eliseat; 09-27-2018 at 06:31 AM.
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09-26-2018, 09:03 PM
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Nice Script Thanks I was needing that for "deleting" or adjusting the time signature with the content!! Is any way to do the oposite add time adjusting the time selection ? Like being in 4/4 and add a tempo and it becomes 5/4 ? I work a lot with additive time signatures, and some times I want to add a eight note, a sixteen note ( or whatever) in the middle of a composition and is very hard in Reaper to add tempo and change key signatures, some times, ( particularly hard if it goes from X/4 to Y/8 or Z/16 etc...)
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09-27-2018, 04:48 AM
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This is funny, I'm working on exactly that kind of script.
You create a time selection (based on the grid settings, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4...), let's say of 7/8 and it will automatically insert a signature of 7/8. It's that what you mean?
Last edited by _Stevie_; 09-27-2018 at 06:43 PM.
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09-28-2018, 04:13 AM
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@Robert & Stevie Thanks for the useful scripts
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09-28-2018, 07:41 AM
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thanks RR... nice and handy addition to the arsenal
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