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Oh I see, again........someone has a difference of opinion of your and they are childish.
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I used the word "petulant". If you are going to cite me for something, for God's sake, please have the decency to properly quote me! I have no problems with differences of opinion. All I ask is that the difference of opinion be focused on the meat of the thread.
I happen to think these discussions have potential benefit to the Reaper devs. That's why I posted it here. Sometimes, in the interest of researching the impact of your own product, it's useful to see it honestly and critically contrasted with another in day to day use. I already see there are a few thread participants who share that worldview with me. Then there are others, squirreled away in this two dimensional world, seemingly bereft of any meaningful human contact, that have nothing better to do with their time than launch meaningless complaints and criticisms of people they have never met. What I would like to do right now is get back to the Canucks vs the Kings. It's the 1st intermission, with Vancouver up 1-0. Can the cool folks stay tuned, and the jackasses just leave the room, please?
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04-22-2012, 06:03 PM
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Some people on this forum...........
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04-22-2012, 06:06 PM
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Some people on this forum...........
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Thats right. Not me.
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04-22-2012, 06:07 PM
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Some people on this forum...........
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04-23-2012, 03:26 AM
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I don't think I'm anything. I just thought the topic could be interesting and informative. I'm rethinking this whole thing because of some of this utterly petulant input.
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Aw come on!
I was trying to clarify what you REALLY meant - your use of the word was misleading and I suspect you intended to use something other than "demagogue".
But yes there are a few really silly reactions here to what to me has seemed like a sensible commentary from the word go.
Maybe WT is right - the fanboi vs troll content here is getting excessive?
Very sad if it is, this has always been a sensible place for the most part.
So what DID you mean, anyway? (grin)
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04-23-2012, 11:18 AM
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Think about what you are saying.
Now, a guy who started a thread that should have been in the lounge in the first place is somehow linked to white tie (who to the best of my knowledge hasn't said anything here) who somehow now thinks the forum is fanbois and trolls?
Troll definition 99.90% of the time = "I don't like/agree with you"
Fanboi definition 99.90% of the time = "I don't like/agree with you"
This thread is no different.
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Uh...I have no relationship with White Tie. Look, I seem to have caused a lot of unintended grief. Do I have the power to shelve this thing? Even if a mod doesn't come and do it, I'll consider topic closed, and I apologize for any hard feelings generated.
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04-23-2012, 12:09 PM
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Uh...I have no relationship with White Tie. Look, I seem to have caused a lot of unintended grief. Do I have the power to shelve this thing? Even if a mod doesn't come and do it, I'll consider topic closed, and I apologize for any hard feelings generated.
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Too bad I'm interested in your findings. Workflow is so important for me and if a tool gets it done faster, I'll use it.
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04-23-2012, 12:11 PM
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Too bad I'm interested in your findings. Workflow is so important for me and if a tool gets it done faster, I'll use it.
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Just PM me, and I'll keep you posted on my work moving forward. Some others have expressed interest in my doing this off forum.
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04-23-2012, 12:35 PM
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Just PM me, and I'll keep you posted on my work moving forward. Some others have expressed interest in my doing this off forum.
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Done.
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04-23-2012, 12:45 PM
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This is crazy. You called us children, and now you want to leave?
Look, again, I hope it works out for you. And again, if S1 worked here I'd probably use it myself allot. It's not about using S1, it's about the idea that if you needed to come to the main stage to announce it, then it comes across as brash.
Also (and maybe this is a self-fulfilling prophecy) I saw this. I've seen it time and time again.
Anyway, I tried to state my mind, then that got misunderstood, and the whole thing went downhill from there. Blame me, most do anyways.
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04-23-2012, 12:50 PM
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I wonder why Reaper always face with S1 on this forum? Why not with Logic or Cubase?
imo S1 is not even close to what you can do in Reaper (if you discover all the depths of it)
I have about 70 complex custom actions for my every needs, with it i can do everything i need with just 1 click. Its never been so fast and easy...who can give me the same abilities?
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04-23-2012, 01:01 PM
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I still don't think that is what the crux is here. Nobody cares if you use studio one or reaper. But this IS a reaper forum and to announce using another host front and center (general discussion) seems like nener nener despite the claims of reaper still being important.
It's like going on the democrat forum (just an example) and announcing you are voting for romney. The lounge would have saved some of the grief tbh.
Anyways, there are many things that S1 does better (cough, midi, cough) but that is an entirely different discussion.
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I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't discuss MIDI in Reaper anymore, I won't...
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hahahaah!
Well, I am. I'm plenty pissed about it broheem
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ivansc
Think about what you are saying.
Now, a guy who started a thread that should have been in the lounge in the first place is somehow linked to white tie (who to the best of my knowledge hasn't said anything here) who somehow now thinks the forum is fanbois and trolls?
Troll definition 99.90% of the time = "I don't like/agree with you"
Fanboi definition 99.90% of the time = "I don't like/agree with you"
This thread is no different.
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In fairness, I WAS making allowances for him being - ahem! - a Canadian....
(snigger)
P.S. Just in case anyone takes this seriously, one of the guitar players in my band is Canadian and the singer & keyboardist in another band is also a Vancouverite.
(and they are actually quite reasonable, rational people)
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Uh...I have no relationship with White Tie. Look, I seem to have caused a lot of unintended grief. Do I have the power to shelve this thing? Even if a mod doesn't come and do it, I'll consider topic closed, and I apologize for any hard feelings generated.
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O.K. I hate to sound obsessive, but PLEASE tell me what you meant about being a bit of a demagogue? Is there some alternative meaning for this in Canadian English? I am not winding you up, I promise, Just curious, as I am endlessly fascinated by the regional variations in usage of supposedly common English words.
Dont know about any other references to WT, but mine was referring to his comments in the themes area of the forum to the effect that the reaper forum seems to be getting somewhat polarised of late and not in a good way.
SMILE, you miserable bastards, especially when posting.
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In fairness, I WAS making allowances for him being - ahem! - a Canadian....
(snigger)
P.S. Just in case anyone takes this seriously, one of the guitar players in my band is Canadian and the singer & keyboardist in another band is also a Vancouverite.
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'they' are. LOL. all 35 mil. we just got electricity the other day. its grrrrreat!
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I wonder why Reaper always face with S1 on this forum? Why not with Logic or Cubase?
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Because they are both (more or less) current-generation design and code.
That can not be said about most of the alternatives out there, and definitely none of the other common 'name' alternatives, which is what many (most?) users of both Reaper and S1 are looking to switch from.
As for newbies, if they're coming to this as blank slates, I'd advise them to steer clear of all of the old time code heaps, with the possible exception of PT, because it is, as they say a professional standard (for whatever that's worth; not much IMO) and even then ONLY if their goal was to become a professional PT 'operator' (many of whom are looking to Reaper for salvation.)
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It's like going on the democrat forum (just an example) and announcing you are voting for romney.
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It's not like that! We should all welcome it when someone shows up with something along the lines of ...
"dax x does y better than reaper imo, and here's my rationale btw"
Great! Let's try and improve this piece of software that we like by explaining it to JCS! It needs improving, just like every other piece of software lol
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04-23-2012, 02:31 PM
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posts like this, when approached with tact, certainly have a ton of good thoughts....
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04-23-2012, 02:41 PM
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It needs improving, just like every other piece of software lol
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It will never happen. Too many factors. There are a lot of people with different goals, situations and POV. What for one will be improvement for another will be impairment and the moaning will start again. I think everybody should relax already, stick with the developers and concentrate more on the music. dot
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It will never happen. Too many factors. There are a lot of people with different goals, situations and POV. What for one will be improvement for another will be impairment and the moaning will start again. I think everybody should relax already, stick with the developers and concentrate more on the music. dot
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right. use what works for you. Ask for improvements, don't be so stuck on it if they don't turn out, and prepare to adapt.
adapt or die. or in this case, adapt, or constantly bitch and waste your time. kinda like death.
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This is crazy. You called us children, and now you want to leave?
Look, again, I hope it works out for you. And again, if S1 worked here I'd probably use it myself allot. It's not about using S1, it's about the idea that if you needed to come to the main stage to announce it, then it comes across as brash.
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Ugh. Dude, will you stop already. YOU are boring.
I am a huge Reaper fan, and don't know anything about S1. And am trying desperately to rid myself of Cubase forever. But for as much of a Reaper Fanboi that I am, I never once saw the OP as being brash. It didn't even read to me like "I'm using S1 and so should you." or anything of the sort.
It read to me more like "I'm gonna do my next project in S1 so I can experience the workflow in a real-world context. Then I'm going to share my experience on here so that you other users (AND THE DEV's) can see where Reaper can be improved. Perhaps the smart programmer types can can create some extensions to bring some of the missing functionality into Reaper."
The dev's have shown lately that "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". This is a tone that they have created. And so the OP was doing a little squeaking, in a very polite and organized way imho.
I wish the OP would continue this thread, because I think it would be helpful.
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I wish the OP would continue this thread, because I think it would be helpful.
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You and me both. Sad this went so far off the rails, I wouldn't blame
tonehenge if he abandoned this thread altogether.
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Exactly....I'm still demoing S1.....but so far it's an "ehhh"
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I wonder why Reaper always face with S1 on this forum? Why not with Logic or Cubase?Ed
imo S1 is not even close to what you can do in Reaper (if you discover all the depths of it)
I have about 70 complex custom actions for my every needs, with it i can do everything i need with just 1 click. Its never been so fast and easy...who can give me the same abilities?
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About the only thing I'm interested in is the quantized function ...and the ARA with Melodyne.
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About the only thing I'm interested in is the quantized function ...and the ARA with Melodyne.
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..and while there is talk of ARA becoming an open standard I dont think it will ever work with Reaper because the implementation of it in Studio One v2 uses the VST3 version of the plugin
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Count me in on this also.....
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In defense of the OP, I thought the topic was worthy of discussion and did not have the usual troll elements in it, such as DAW X sounds better or DAW X is more Pro than Reaper.
Looking for a new fountain of inspiration for creativity is common and changing the usual routine may do it, but I don't honestly think there is that much of a change between S1 and Reaper to have any worthwhile impact. In the end, both record what we either play or program. It doesn't create any music, it just captures it. Changing to a new Soft Synth or messing around with say a new guitar amplifier and/or new effects may be a better choice.
Lastly, the search for creativity is often blocked when we try to be a one man band. I can't even approach by myself what I can accomplish with a small set of talented musicians to work with. So, my advice for those looking for new inspiration and avenues of creativity is to hook up with good musicians to lay down ideas and craft them into a composition. Think about how Dream Theater ends up making great music. I am sure it is not all Jordan Rudess. Jordan Rudess sounds and plays great because he has the rest of the band to inspire him. Same for Petrucci and the others.
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In fairness, I WAS making allowances for him being - ahem! - a Canadian....
(snigger)
P.S. Just in case anyone takes this seriously, one of the guitar players in my band is Canadian and the singer & keyboardist in another band is also a Vancouverite.
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Yeah, cause in a global perspective, it´s the canadians who are viewed as unreasonable and irrational
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Ugh. Dude, will you stop already. YOU are boring.
I am a huge Reaper fan, and don't know anything about S1. And am trying desperately to rid myself of Cubase forever. But for as much of a Reaper Fanboi that I am, I never once saw the OP as being brash. It didn't even read to me like "I'm using S1 and so should you." or anything of the sort.
It read to me more like "I'm gonna do my next project in S1 so I can experience the workflow in a real-world context. Then I'm going to share my experience on here so that you other users (AND THE DEV's) can see where Reaper can be improved. Perhaps the smart programmer types can can create some extensions to bring some of the missing functionality into Reaper."
The dev's have shown lately that "the squeaky wheel gets the grease". This is a tone that they have created. And so the OP was doing a little squeaking, in a very polite and organized way imho.
I wish the OP would continue this thread, because I think it would be helpful.
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Probably the most succinct synopsis of my intentions.
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I wish the OP would continue this thread, because I think it would be helpful.
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Count me in as well.
I'm especially interested in how S1 handles time signatures and tempo changes, because if anything currently makes me want to give up on Reaper (or advise others to stay away, which I recently did, AAMOF), that would be it.
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Count me in as well.
I'm especially interested in how S1 handles time signatures and tempo changes, because if anything currently makes me want to give up on Reaper (or advise others to stay away, which I recently did, AAMOF), that would be it.
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Find attached a screen shot of the S1 manual as it relates to mapping in tempo changes. This is something I missed from Cubase. I'm glad they've included it here. I think this feature would be a great fit for Reaper's "a track is a track is a track" modus operandi...
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Thanks for jumping back in OP. I'm interested to see how you make out with your S1 project.
I just bought a new sound card and it came with S1 Artist v1. I've been playing around with S1 and I would have to admit that the work flow is very well thought out. The biggest initial hurdle for me was working with the tools. I'm the kind of guy that builds spreadsheets and never touches the mouse. I guess that's why Reaper feels so good to me.
If I had to make an analogy I would call S1 "skinny Jonah Hill." Just as funny as fat Jonah Hill, but he's more nimble and looks better in a suit.
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Thanks for jumping back in OP. I'm interested to see how you make out with your S1 project.
I just bought a new sound card and it came with S1 Artist v1. I've been playing around with S1 and I would have to admit that the work flow is very well thought out. The biggest initial hurdle for me was working with the tools. I'm the kind of guy that builds spreadsheets and never touches the mouse. I guess that's why Reaper feels so good to me.
If I had to make an analogy I would call S1 "skinny Jonah Hill." Just as funny as fat Jonah Hill, but he's more nimble and looks better in a suit.
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If I ever invert this, and do something about Reaper on the S1 forum, one of the things that I would focus on is how Reaper works in terms of context sensitive menus that are right click accessible. I'm shocked that the big boys haven't cottoned onto this. One of the most compelling components of the design of Reaper in my opinion...
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Find attached a screen shot of the S1 manual as it relates to mapping in tempo changes. This is something I missed from Cubase. I'm glad they've included it here. I think this feature would be a great fit for Reaper's "a track is a track is a track" modus operandi...
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Interesting. From that description it looks similar to how Sonar does/did it. But then it doesn't look too different from how Reaper does it via the tempo map envelope. The biggest difference seems to be that neither Sonar nor S1 ties tempo changes and time signature changes together through a shared marker, which at least seems to be one of the factors in Reaper's problems with both tempo and time sig.
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If I ever invert this, and do something about Reaper on the S1 forum, one of the things that I would focus on is how Reaper works in terms of context sensitive menus that are right click accessible. I'm shocked that the big boys haven't cottoned onto this. One of the most compelling components of the design of Reaper in my opinion...
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And menu and key customization. That's what I would miss most were I to use something else. That's what sold me on Reaper in the first place, and why I jumped from Sonar.
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And menu and key customization. That's what I would miss most were I to use something else. That's what sold me on Reaper in the first place, and why I jumped from Sonar.
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Ah yes...Reaper's customizations. I've found that being able to overly customize becomes a problem when moving projects from computer to computer, except that you can move your settings from computer to computer... Then the issue becomes about how much time you want to spend under the hood. There is something to be said for learning a program, then moving on. I am not a PT fan, but I appreciate the power of a standardized approach in many situations.
In any event, this is simply about one other app contrasted in a day to day working situation with Reaper. I'm already finding things in S1 that I find frustrating. I want to right click an event all the time..and nothing happens!
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Mozart created some of the worlds greatest music without a DAW. Today, with all the processing power and toys available, the best we can do is the latest Britney Spears project. I think society is too focused on using technology to mask the real need for pure creative talent.
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Ah yes...Reaper's customizations. I've found that being able to overly customize becomes a problem when moving projects from computer to computer, except that you can move your settings from computer to computer... Then the issue becomes about how much time you want to spend under the hood. There is something to be said for learning a program, then moving on. I am not a PT fan, but I appreciate the power of a standardized approach in many situations.
In any event, this is simply about one other app contrasted in a day to day working situation with Reaper. I'm already finding things in S1 that I find frustrating. I want to right click an event all the time..and nothing happens!
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This has been an interesting thread.
I jumped to S1 when version 2 was released six months ago, and I'd say customization is one of the biggest reasons I left. At a very high level, the argument has been well documented in this forum - some users spend way too much time programming and customizing Reaper. I didn't make much music for the 5 months I spent with it.
Contrast that with S1. Loads of new ideas, mixing and most importantly, completed songs. S1 doesn't have everything that I need, but it gets out of my way when I want to create.
I haven't given up on Reaper completely. It's stable and I couldn't break it when pilling on the plugins. There are those among us that love the customization - the power users that want a key command and macro for everything. Then there are those that want to launch the program, play some chords and not have to scour through a sea of menus and macros just to finish the project.
I've barely looked at the S1 manual. It's overly intuitive. With Reaper I printed the manual twice, own every groove3 video, and was constantly making youtube queries for info.
The list of actions for Reaper is stunning - and I don't mean that in a good way. When I look at the pre-release forum, I see suggestions like, "can you make a macro that will place the cursor on measure 43 while sliding 8 clips to the left by 4 clicks, but not before quantizing the notes to a 32nd swing while chopping all of my guitar parts in half". I mean really? Who the f*** needs that? I'm exaggerating a bit, but not by much.
The preference page is the same. Contrast this to S1's preference page. Minimal choices.
For me it's all needlessly and endlessly complex. Too much so. I simply make music in S1. With Reaper I always feel like I'm wrestling with it, and sometimes it's just plain old hard to use, and I'm no newbie - 13 years of Logic under my belt.
All that said, I'd like to see Reaper succeed. I believe in the devs and their business practices. However, I can't always use the program.
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Last edited by grayter1; 04-24-2012 at 04:35 PM.
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04-24-2012, 04:49 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 2,638
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Originally Posted by DigiDis
Mozart created some of the worlds greatest music without a DAW. Today, with all the processing power and toys available, the best we can do is the latest Britney Spears project. I think society is too focused on using technology to mask the real need for pure creative talent.
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its true. thats the ONLY music out there and defiantly the BEST WE CAN DO.
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