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Old 03-15-2012, 07:44 PM   #1
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Default Soundtoys Little Radiator - Free Plug-in

Hey guys, I just saw this:



It's free! Get it here:

https://www.soundtoys.com/sxsw2012/&rc=363-4692-796
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:00 PM   #2
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I was interested until I saw the iLock requirement.

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Old 03-15-2012, 08:02 PM   #3
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Free plug-in but requires iLok.

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Old 03-15-2012, 08:17 PM   #4
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yup, iLok can iSuk an iCok
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:24 PM   #5
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All Soundtoys plug-ins are iLok, I guess that's the reason why this is also protected.

Anyways, it sounds good and it's free, for iLok holders.
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Anyways, it sounds good and it's free, for iLok holders.
No doubt it is. I'm an iLok holder...but that's all I like to do. Just hold in my hand every once in a while and be thankful I almost never have to plug it in. I imagine if one already uses an iLok day to day then it's a great free plugin (a nice thank you no doubt to users of their existing paid plugins). For myself, I don't think there's a free plugin in the world that would alone convince me to start down that road again.
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Old 03-15-2012, 10:13 PM   #7
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Mr Negro has the best on intentions.

I do however have to say that a free product that requires an ilok is amusing.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:07 PM   #8
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Yeah, if I didn't have an iLok this would suck but since I have one... something new to play with
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:15 PM   #9
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Yeah, if I didn't have an iLok this would suck but since I have one... something new to play with
lolz! I have an ilok, but I'm still going to pass*

*this does NOT mean I'm..........wait for it...........LOCKED into that thought
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:28 PM   #10
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The free Soundtoys plugin they released last year (yes, iLok required) is one of my all-time favorite mix tools.

You don't like nice things? fine. Please keep the whining to yourselves.

I know I'm going to be using this one a lot in my rock mixes. You can never have too many options for saturators.
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I know I'm going to be using this one a lot in my rock mixes. You can never have too many options for saturators.
I've tested it on vocals so far and it sounds nice with "HEAT" at 0 (left-most position), and "MIX" between 8 and 9 o'clock... adds weight and density. What about you? I guess it sounds cool on guitars and basses, have you tried it on those?
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I've tested it on vocals so far and it sounds nice with "HEAT" at 0 (left-most position), and "MIX" between 8 and 9 o'clock... adds weight and density. What about you? I guess it sounds cool on guitars and basses, have you tried it on those?
I did a quick test, it's not very subtle! but that's to be expected from SoundToys.

I briefly tried it on random tracks.
My first impression of it reminded me of Massey TapeHead on bright mode when pushed a bit too hard. Different type of saturation but the aggressive upper mids of Little Radiator made me think of that.

For vocals I could go either really gentle, like Heat at 0-1 and mix at 5, or more extreme - pad on heat at 9, mix at 2. It might end up being something I do in parallel, pushing it hard and blending in along with stereo widening maybe.
Same goes for guitars. For distorted guitars it might be too much, I'd likely use it with MS compression or something blended in just to get them to bite more.

I don't think I'll use it on bass, I'm used RC-Tube at 10 drive on my last mix and really liked what it did.

I don't have the full VCC or Nebula.
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You don't like nice things? fine. Please keep the whining to yourselves.
Not buying that!

Oh wait, it's free (headslap)
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:56 AM   #14
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I got my iLok for £10 off a pal & hve all either free or $15 plugs on it - no great loss if it coughs, but I do find the waves email suggsting I buy their update plan a little amusing....
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Grabbed it. Love it.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Yeah this is a great sounding, very obvious saturator

Liking it ...
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:44 AM   #17
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Downloading as I type. Gonna check this out. Seems like a large file @ 77.4 MB but it may be worth it.
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iLok bitching, again..still...yawn..!
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Old 03-16-2012, 11:10 AM   #19
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Hey guys, I just saw this:



It's free! Get it here:

https://www.soundtoys.com/sxsw2012/&rc=363-4692-796
Mercado you might have found a gold mine!;-)
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:06 AM   #20
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Mercado you might have found a gold mine!;-)
Yeah, it sounds very nice with subtle settings
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feel like adding some iLok bitching since it's a yucky, depressing day here. So bah, bah, bah... and your mother wears army boots too.
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what the heck is this bizness?

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Old 03-17-2012, 08:21 AM   #23
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Great share #mercado brother!

I can affirm that this LRadiator is A great must have little plugin. And yes i hear those who don't have iLok but thats how the company always have been releasing their plugins security & until they decide one day to take another route for their protection system, will always be iLok for now.

Enjoy it cuz its a great little plugin to Add in your mixing arsenal
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what the heck is this bizness?

Hey Pixel!!

I'm not using a Mac but all I can confirm to you is that I've tried to Duplicate your situation under Win7 and everything is working Perfectly. I did resized the Fx Window in every way possible and there is NO Pixel problem etc.. etc..

Can you maybe double check and see if you're using in your Screen Res 24 bit or 32 bit?

But however your issue ain't happening here I can confirm.

Maybe other folks under Mac could double check and if proven that others have the same issue as you, I can report it to Soundtoys ASAP.

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@pixeltarian:

I can't confirm this either in Windows 7 64bit. What if you disable "up" and "down" options in Preferences/Plug-ins? does it help?
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I can't confirm this either in Windows 7 64bit. What if you disable "up" and "down" options in Preferences/Plug-ins? does it help?
they were disabled at the time of this licecap. this has happened as far back as I can remember. since I first had a soundtoys plugin.

*edit*
Enabling them both makes sure it's at least the correct size upon loading it - but I still don't want it to resize when I resize the FX window. I just want it to be it's own static size.
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they were disabled at the time of this licecap. this has happened as far back as I can remember. since I first had a soundtoys plugin.

*edit*
Enabling them both makes sure it's at least the correct size upon loading it - but I still don't want it to resize when I resize the FX window. I just want it to be it's own static size.
Other soundtoys plugins do this for me too.
I use both up and down, it seems to just work better with all plugins but it's annoying because you have to chase the FX window around when you change plugins.

Maybe we should contact ST support?
Hopefully they won't tell us not to use a free DAW
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Other soundtoys plugins do this for me too.
I use both up and down, it seems to just work better with all plugins but it's annoying because you have to chase the FX window around when you change plugins.

Maybe we should contact ST support?
Hopefully they won't tell us not to use a free DAW
Indeed I think this must be reported to Soundtoys Team and I don't see why they would "they won't tell us not to use a free DAW"????

Can you clarify a bit.

As I mentioned above, this specific Issue does NOT happen under Reaper running in Windows 7 at least and never had any problem such using Soundotys plugins neither under Win Xp.

If you guys want I can report this to the Team & i'm sure they will fix it because either a plugin is Free or Not, they Treat each the same to reach no bug at their highest standard.

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I tested it on drums* a few moments ago... very, very nice! Hear:

Unprocessed:

http://www.mediafire.com/?su9n4832pc1yfp8

Processed:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zgci9a8agr0e1r1

There is one instance in each track and then another one in the drumbuss.

*No further processing, raw drums, zero EQ, comp etc.
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I got it as well - liked it on acoustic guitar, not so much on drums. It's definitely a character plugin, not like VCC!
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Old 03-17-2012, 04:12 PM   #31
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Default FREE SOUNDTOYS Little Radiator Plugin

Soundtoys are giving away a free tube pre amp plugin for a limited time. Get yours free by using the following link.

LITTLE RADIATOR

Go and share this link!!!

I know it requires ILOK but for a free plugin the sound is really good. Gives a full rich sound to tracks its inserted on

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^I guess you get something from people downloading from your link? I noticed the two seem to have different identification numbers at the end.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:00 PM   #33
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^I guess you get something from people downloading from your link? I noticed the two seem to have different identification numbers at the end.
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actually you win all SoundToys plugins for life.
Last I checked I was in 15th place with 42 referrals.
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actually you win all SoundToys plugins for life.
Last I checked I was in 15th place with 42 referrals.
referrals or downloads? downloads is what really counts as far as I know.
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Not Free. That is, of course, if you have to own or purchase an iLok to use it, then it is not free. I've seen this sort of nonsense before. I don't allow dongles, locks, iLoks, handcuffs, secret handshakes or any sort of ridiculous crud to come anywhere near my computer or my projects. I've thoroughly had it with that whole approach. In fact, if any product takes more than 10 or 15 minutes to register on a company's website, it's very unlikely I would buy it. There's plenty of other software and gear available out there that isn't full of this idiocy.

Recently, Steinberg offered what they called a "free trial" of Cubase 6. At the very bottom, in the finer print, they then informed us that you still had to buy a $29.95 dongle and go through the stupid BS of licensing the thing -- all for the "free" 30-day trial. Free is either free -- or it isn't. Pull that crap in a bar or pub and they'll take you out back with a baseball bat. Just because it's some self-glorified business on the net doesn't somehow make it okay. Of course it wasn't the only reason (lousy customer support and relations, etc., too), but Steinberg lost any future business from me and a handful of others when they went dongle. And their eLicenser before that sucked, too. Funny, but for all their anal security efforts there is no shortage of cracked versions all over the net. Think about it -- the company assumes that all users are dishonest and will give away copies to all their friends. So, really, an iLok only hurts or harasses honest customers.

Too bad for Soundtoys. A free little plugin? I might have tried it. I might have like it. THEN, I might have actually bought something else they have. But iLok is an immediate turn-off. So I'm off to the 7 thousand other companies that don't hassle prospective customers. I wonder if some used car salemen have gone into the audio software business, 'cause there seems to be too much of the bait and switch, deception, and inflated pricing going on. How do you get away with, for example, selling your DAW for $500+ yet it doesn't do anything that a regular version of REAPER can do (and sometimes even better)?

We're going to see a huge shakedown and reality check fairly soon with all this audio software. I believe it's already happening, as customers wise up and big-name brands lose their market share.
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Can't figure out how to download this thing. I registered and all, but it is nowhere. Same thing when they launched the littel devil, I remember giving up ...,
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Can't figure out how to download this thing. I registered and all, but it is nowhere. Same thing when they launched the littel devil, I remember giving up ...,
Did you check your soundtoys account? It should be there.

Did you receive a confirmation e-mail saying the license was deposited in your iLok account?
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Frigging hate iLok. Bought a cheap wavepack a while ago, so i have it, but it´s annoying as hell. Have to use a usb port on my laptop every time, and i get the joy of having longer loadtimes than if i had a cracked version. DRM FTW! But it´s nice that waves are removing the iLok now. Hope soundtoys follow suit, been wanting to buy the native bundle, but the iLok really rubs me the wrong way :P
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Not Free. That is, of course, if you have to own or purchase an iLok to use it, then it is not free. I've seen this sort of nonsense before. I don't allow dongles, locks, iLoks, handcuffs, secret handshakes or any sort of ridiculous crud to come anywhere near my computer or my projects. I've thoroughly had it with that whole approach. In fact, if any product takes more than 10 or 15 minutes to register on a company's website, it's very unlikely I would buy it. There's plenty of other software and gear available out there that isn't full of this idiocy.

Recently, Steinberg offered what they called a "free trial" of Cubase 6. At the very bottom, in the finer print, they then informed us that you still had to buy a $29.95 dongle and go through the stupid BS of licensing the thing -- all for the "free" 30-day trial. Free is either free -- or it isn't. Pull that crap in a bar or pub and they'll take you out back with a baseball bat. Just because it's some self-glorified business on the net doesn't somehow make it okay. Of course it wasn't the only reason (lousy customer support and relations, etc., too), but Steinberg lost any future business from me and a handful of others when they went dongle. And their eLicenser before that sucked, too. Funny, but for all their anal security efforts there is no shortage of cracked versions all over the net. Think about it -- the company assumes that all users are dishonest and will give away copies to all their friends. So, really, an iLok only hurts or harasses honest customers.

Too bad for Soundtoys. A free little plugin? I might have tried it. I might have like it. THEN, I might have actually bought something else they have. But iLok is an immediate turn-off. So I'm off to the 7 thousand other companies that don't hassle prospective customers. I wonder if some used car salemen have gone into the audio software business, 'cause there seems to be too much of the bait and switch, deception, and inflated pricing going on. How do you get away with, for example, selling your DAW for $500+ yet it doesn't do anything that a regular version of REAPER can do (and sometimes even better)?

We're going to see a huge shakedown and reality check fairly soon with all this audio software. I believe it's already happening, as customers wise up and big-name brands lose their market share.
I wouldn't like to turn this thread into an endless debate over copy protection and their side effects on customers and their productivity but I do want to state there are two realities here: one reality where people already own an iLok and to whom this plug-in is free and those who do not own those dongles and, of course, must purchase one in order to use it, which doesn't make it free, if this is the only plug-in they're planning to use. It is aimed to the first group and people from the second group who are planning to purchase an iLok before March 29th. If you're not part of these groups, then this plug-in isn't for you. It was free for me, even more, I got my iLok for free when I purchased Slate Digital VCC so in essence I'm enjoying a free plug-in thanks to a company which gave me an iLok for free... life's good, isn't it?
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