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11-29-2015, 06:13 AM
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Plugindiscounts Deals
Hello,
I purchased some plugin from plugindiscounts about 7 hours ago via
PayPal. I need serial number or code or download link to be able
to download plugin, but I have not received yet ?-!
Anyone any experience with plugindiscounts ?
Last edited by Daniovan; 11-29-2015 at 09:04 AM.
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11-29-2015, 06:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniovan
Hello,
I purchased some plugin at plugindiscounts about 7 hours ago via
PayPal. I need serial number or code or download link to be able
to download plugin, but I have not received yet ?-!
Anyone any experience with plugindiscounts ?
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Not trying to be rude, but you should check out the company first.
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11-29-2015, 06:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curtis
Not trying to be rude, but you should check out the company first.
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What does this mean?. I googled it and no bad reviews and I got an
answer before I purchased from a guy called Tony Belmont and he said
they would send an activation code after purchase ?-!
Plugindiscounts is not legit ?
Last edited by Daniovan; 11-29-2015 at 06:34 AM.
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11-29-2015, 07:07 AM
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I never heard of them. And I don't understand the need. Do you think that, as a "middle man" that they can offer lower costs on plugins than obtaining them directly from the developers' sites? How would that work? Or is it simply for the convenience of finding them all in one place (kinda' takes all the fun of 'the hunt' out if the process).
Sounds like it has all the makings of a scam somewhere along the way, as I see neither any advantage nor reason for their existence. Apologies to all involved if totally legit - I just simply fail to see the point.
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11-29-2015, 07:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReaperMadness
Do you think that, as a "middle man" that they can offer lower costs on plugins than obtaining them directly from the developers' sites? How would that work?
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As odd as it sounds, it apparently can work that way. Just today I was pointed to "Everyplugin.com" that sells for example Waves plugins at a cheaper price than Waves themselves sell them. I don't know how all that works business wise though. Maybe these middle man companies are scams. Maybe not. Maybe some plugin developers like Waves just put too high price labels on their stuff and don't have a convenient way to back down later.
I am not aware of plugindiscounts specifically what kind of a company it is.
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11-29-2015, 07:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniovan
Hello,
I purchased some plugin at plugindiscounts about 7 hours ago via
PayPal. I need serial number or code or download link to be able
to download plugin, but I have not received yet ?-!
Anyone any experience with plugindiscounts ?
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They are a legit outfit. It's quite possible you won't get your code until Monday morning. It has happened to me. Absolutely no need to worry.
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11-29-2015, 07:20 AM
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Sometimes they earn nothing by selling a plugin just to attract attention hoping a customer might buy more than just one plugin !-?
Last edited by Daniovan; 11-29-2015 at 07:26 AM.
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11-29-2015, 07:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReaperMadness
I never heard of them. And I don't understand the need. Do you think that, as a "middle man" that they can offer lower costs on plugins than obtaining them directly from the developers' sites? How would that work? Or is it simply for the convenience of finding them all in one place (kinda' takes all the fun of 'the hunt' out if the process).
Sounds like it has all the makings of a scam somewhere along the way, as I see neither any advantage nor reason for their existence. Apologies to all involved if totally legit - I just simply fail to see the point.
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They are legit (as is audio deluxe). And yes, they almost always have lower prices that the developer company. It's a common practice, at least here in the USA.
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11-29-2015, 07:31 AM
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I've ordered several plugins from busy eBay sellers (shops not private) based in the States. The sellers are typically slow to respond with the serial numbers.
Many of these Black Friday "mega deal prices" brands discussed this week are cheap on eBay all year round. Nearly all FX plugins, rarely quality soft synths and reputable sample libraries.
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11-29-2015, 07:31 AM
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They are legit. I've bought many plugins from them over the last few years.
Longest I had to wait for a code was when I ordered over a weekend.
Whether they are a scam or not is a question that pops up many times but asking around a few different forums before placing an order will answer any doubts.
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11-29-2015, 07:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobtom1
They are legit. I've bought many plugins from them over the last few years.
Longest I had to wait for a code was when I ordered over a weekend.
Whether they are a scam or not is a question that pops up many times but asking around a few different forums before placing an order will answer any doubts.
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I would smell a rat if they had brands that are not shafted on a regular basis, but I didn't see any from them. They look like just another discount dealer.
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11-29-2015, 07:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Softsynth
I would smell a rat if they had brands that are not shafted on a regular basis, but I didn't see any from them. They look like just another discount dealer.
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Exactly.
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11-29-2015, 07:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReaperMadness
I never heard of them. And I don't understand the need. Do you think that, as a "middle man" that they can offer lower costs on plugins than obtaining them directly from the developers' sites? How would that work? Or is it simply for the convenience of finding them all in one place (kinda' takes all the fun of 'the hunt' out if the process).
Sounds like it has all the makings of a scam somewhere along the way, as I see neither any advantage nor reason for their existence. Apologies to all involved if totally legit - I just simply fail to see the point.
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Totally legit. In fact I bought FabFilter DS for $116 as opposed to $179 directly from FabFilter. I had to wait about 24 hours for my license.
Tbh resellers are a far better way to buy plugs imo. Way cheaper.
JRR Shop, Plugindiscounts and Audio Deluxe are the resellers I use.
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11-29-2015, 08:28 AM
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Once again, I've hit the nail right on the... well, I hit my thumb. Such a cynical bastard I've become.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
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11-29-2015, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReaperMadness
Once again, I've hit the nail right on the... well, I hit my thumb. Such a cynical bastard I've become.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
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I honestly don't blame you. With all the piracy and crap going on nowadays, we all tend to be a bit skeptical. In this case, the outlets mentioned are totally legit, but there is a lot of shady stuff happening on EBay and other places.
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11-29-2015, 12:17 PM
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many purchases from audio deluxe.
no problems.
all good.
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11-29-2015, 01:08 PM
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PluginDiscounts has been notoriously slow in my dealing...audiodeluxe is usually very quick and comparable in price. PluginDiscounts is definitely legit though so don't worry about that.
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11-29-2015, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irvin
I honestly don't blame you. With all the piracy and crap going on nowadays, we all tend to be a bit skeptical. In this case, the outlets mentioned are totally legit, but there is a lot of shady stuff happening on EBay and other places.
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Actually I feel much safer buying from sellers on eBay than online shops that I have never heard of before, with scant details about who they are, and where they are based.
Lots of reputable dealers and resellers on eBay with sales transaction history that (if know how to read it properly) is a very good indication of a safe seller.
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11-29-2015, 01:21 PM
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just btw, I have bought from audio deluxe multiple times both from their website and from them on Ebay.
never a problem.
very satisfied customer.
(and I have no affiliation with the company.)
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11-29-2015, 02:47 PM
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I was curious and looked for plugins on ebay.
There are private sellers offering Valhalla plugins.
Is it possible to re-sell plugins ?-!
I do not think so, what about the license ?
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11-29-2015, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniovan
I was curious and looked for plugins on ebay.
There are private sellers offering Valhalla plugins.
Is it possible to re-sell plugins ?-!
I do not think so, what about the license ?
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It is possible to transfer a licence so it depends what the eBay seller states in their listing.
Sean Costello from Valhalla recently posted in the Black Friday thread so maybe he'll come back to clarify. In the meantime here's a link to the faq on the Valhalla site
https://valhalladsp.com/faq/
It's the 'purchasing' section you should read.
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11-29-2015, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobtom1
It is possible to transfer a licence so it depends what the eBay seller states in their listing.
Sean Costello from Valhalla recently posted in the Black Friday thread so maybe he'll come back to clarify. In the meantime here's a link to the faq on the Valhalla site
https://valhalladsp.com/faq/
It's the 'purchasing' section you should read.
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I guess every plugin dev and seller treats this matter in a different way !-?
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11-29-2015, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReaperMadness
Once again, I've hit the nail right on the... well, I hit my thumb. Such a cynical bastard I've become.
Thanks for the enlightenment.
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Part of the reason is because they are based in the UK, unlike the usual suspects, who are USA based.
And YES as everyone else has said, thy are indeed a decent reputable company, although the US guys are usually cheaper for the same plugs.
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11-29-2015, 06:08 PM
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Valhalla doesn't use copy protection, so unless the reseller allows you to update from the Valhalla site I'd be suspicous.
PS thanks to posts on the forum recently I've created accounts with and successfully purchased plugins from everyplugin and plugindiscounts. The former even has a live guy to help immediately in a chat box. Very satisfied.
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11-29-2015, 07:17 PM
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I actually asked Dirk of Plugin Alliance how other sites (like Plugin Discounts) can sell his stuff cheaper, and how he feels about it. He said something to the effect that he of course would rather have people buy from him directly, but a sale is a sale...he did not allude to how he sells to these other vendors, but he also did not say anything about it being wrong or illegal. I assume that vendors can buy bulk licenses for a discount, like a large studio might.
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11-29-2015, 11:22 PM
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Hello,
have received all codes from plugindiscounts now.
Everything is okay !
Last edited by Daniovan; 11-30-2015 at 05:02 AM.
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11-30-2015, 03:14 AM
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I generally don't see that as a problematic thing..
Some vendors sells only directly, some vendors combine it with dealer network. It is the same thing like with any other software.
Certainly there has to be some margin and different price for them, no one do that for free. I would say in most cases, they sticks with MSRP, but it doesn't mean they can't do own sales, marketing actions, bundles (for instance with another audio hardware in case of traditional retailers)..
From that point of view, I don't think, there is any difference between some small e-shop just for plugins or big retailers like Thomann or Sweetwaters. It is definitely legit.
Of course all of that makes sense only with more expensive (or I would say traditionally priced) plugins and software.. eg. no 20USD plugins, where I would say, is just so-so to cover basic expenses of main developer/company owner/vendor, unless he sells thousands pieces of it.
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