Old 03-25-2017, 02:45 PM   #1
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+ FX: better support wet/bypass/VST3 parameter IDs for MIDI learn
+ FX: better support wet/bypass/VST3 parameter IDs for TCP knobs
+ FX: fix potential bugs relating to bypass/wet envelopes when loading automation and FX parameter counts changed
+ FX: use VST3 parameter IDs for tracking envelopes/parameter modulation across sessions
+ Mouse modifiers: remove envelope lane click context, add envelope lane double-click context
# Automation items: fix LFO shape sometimes being cleared on reloading project
# Automation items: fix extra points added when gluing after changing tempo
# Automation items: fix marquee selection
# Automation items: prevent adding points to unlooped section of automation item when adjusting parameters in touch/latch/write mode with playback stopped

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Old 03-25-2017, 03:25 PM   #2
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+ Mouse modifiers: remove envelope lane click context, add envelope lane double-click context
Well, damn, I found it a handy context to have. What's the reason for removing it if I may ask?
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Old 03-25-2017, 04:44 PM   #3
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Sry if this is possible but is there an option to have spectrogram view in media explorer?
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While on mouse modifiers:
http//forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=189623

Any ideas that might work for compensating for click event order:
http//forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=1812835&postcount=10
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Old 03-25-2017, 06:21 PM   #5
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Well, damn, I found it a handy context to have. What's the reason for removing it if I may ask?
Agree. Which context is now triggered?
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Well, damn, I found it a handy context to have. What's the reason for removing it if I may ask?
Same here, also very frustrating that they removed the option to insert envelope points with the mouse unless you're directly hovering over the envelope, has slowed down my workflow significantly
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+ FX: better support wet/bypass/VST3 parameter IDs for MIDI learn
+ FX: better support wet/bypass/VST3 parameter IDs for TCP knobs
+ FX: fix potential bugs relating to bypass/wet envelopes when loading automation and FX parameter counts changed
+ FX: use VST3 parameter IDs for tracking envelopes/parameter modulation across sessions
If FX are being tweaked, any chance of fixing the GUI resizing bug with NI plugins run as a separate/dedicated process?

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=188808
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Old 03-26-2017, 04:27 AM   #8
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Move tracks with automation items to subproject.
Broken items, properties window..

https://goo.gl/Ly89Jo

Cut time selection left/right sides incorrect.

https://goo.gl/6YbmqM

Disappearing envelope control panel/envelope lane. Select automation items and first envelope point and delete.

https://goo.gl/NpF0V1

Glue overlapping automation items incorrect.

https://goo.gl/CXnNaE

No preview while drawing overlapping automation items.

https://goo.gl/9E9iMc

Collect points into automation item.

https://goo.gl/S1dhgE

Horizontal line at the bottom.

https://goo.gl/oN8dYi

When I move tempo envelope segment tempo marker jumps to mouse cursor.
Left click in empty area unselect all points doesnt work.

https://goo.gl/WTtTT4

Draw a copy of selected automation item, play rate/baseline/amplitude/loop settings are not preserved.

https://goo.gl/2SFZ4q

Some of 'Nudge/set items' settings dont work with automation items.

Nudge -> Duplicate https://goo.gl/bz9qzt
Set -> Position https://goo.gl/dvLiRh
Set -> End Position https://goo.gl/rAlkHJ
Set -> Duplicate https://goo.gl/ZpmFeq
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Old 03-26-2017, 06:02 AM   #10
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When we move an edge of a not looped automation item, I think it's sad not to have the possibility to add new points in the new section immediately :
Can't you use "Collect new points"? Hold Ctrl and move the edge
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Old 03-26-2017, 06:53 AM   #11
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they removed the option to insert envelope points with the mouse unless you're directly hovering over the envelope
This option wasn't removed. If the envelope lane left drag context inserts a point, this insert will happen on the first click. By default, shift+click on an envelope lane inserts a point whether or not you are over the envelope, but you can map this to happen on an unmodified click if you want.

In fact I don't think any default mouse behaviors changed at all.

The change was made because there were existing logical conflicts between customized envelope lane click and drag contexts, and between envelope lane click and track click contexts, causing various bug reports, that would be impossible to resolve without changing existing default behaviors.

As of 5.50pre1, a click on the envelope lane will insert a point if the associated envelope lane drag mouse modifier inserts a point (which is unchanged existing behavior), otherwise the track click context is used (which I believe is is also unchanged existing behavior for the default mouse modifiers).

Customized envelope lane behaviors (like inserting an automation item) can be triggered using the envelope lane double-click context, if desired.
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The change was made because there were existing logical conflicts between customized envelope lane click and drag contexts, and between envelope lane click and track click contexts, causing various bug reports, that would be impossible to resolve without changing existing default behaviors.
Too bad but isn't there a same type of conflict in the Track modifier?

There it's resolved by

Left drag modifier doesn't trigger until after the cursor is moved by a certain amount after pressing the left button down.

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Left click modifier triggers only after the button has been released and the previous condition hasn't been met.

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Customized envelope lane behaviors (like inserting an automation item) can be triggered using the envelope lane double-click context, if desired.
Except that a double click deselects the points/items you would like to perform an action on.
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Envelope Lane single click causes all of my envelope points to be deselected.

"Envelope Lane" / "Left Drag" default action is no action
"Envelope Lane" / "Double Click" default action is no action.

Not sure how to prevent deselecting.

I went back to 5.40 and changed "Envelope Lane" / "Left Click" to no action for all also. Back in 5.50pre1 it still deselects all env points.
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I can't reproduce this.
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LFO toggle loop: https://goo.gl/AGTTSw
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+ FX: better support wet/bypass/VST3 parameter IDs for MIDI learn
+ FX: better support wet/bypass/VST3 parameter IDs for TCP knobs
+ FX: fix potential bugs relating to bypass/wet envelopes when loading automation and FX parameter counts changed
+ FX: use VST3 parameter IDs for tracking envelopes/parameter modulation across sessions
Full changelog - Latest pre-releases
Does any of this have any affect on the AU latency issues I've reported when using the FX blend knob or is this not related?
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If it's VST3 related, it kinda implies it doesn't relate to anything else.
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If it's VST3 related, it kinda implies it doesn't relate to anything else.
Well, yeah...but in the REAPER prefs there is only VST category an not a dedicated one for AU so I wasn't sure if VST was being used in a generic sense and these tweaks might also affect AU versions.

I'm not that much of a dumbass but thanks for trying to make it appear that way. I'm sorry I'm not the REAPER god that you are. I should just uninstall it right now and crawl in a hole.
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I was not trying to make you look like a dumbass, man. Sorry if you thought that way. Emoticon at the end should've been the sign
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Does any of this have any affect on the AU latency issues I've reported when using the FX blend knob or is this not related?
No effect on any latency issues.

Just for info, the fix is not just for VST3. It has to do with what happens when a plug-in (whether VST2, VST3, or AU) adds, removes, or reorders the set of parameters it exposes to REAPER. Before the fix, anything in the project mapped to FX wet mix, bypass, or any VST3 parameter (hence "wet/bypass/VST3 parameter") might not get updated properly if the plugin does this.
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LFO bug: https://goo.gl/0Ec9jV
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No effect on any latency issues.

Just for info, the fix is not just for VST3. It has to do with what happens when a plug-in (whether VST2, VST3, or AU) adds, removes, or reorders the set of parameters it exposes to REAPER. Before the fix, anything in the project mapped to FX wet mix, bypass, or any VST3 parameter (hence "wet/bypass/VST3 parameter") might not get updated properly if the plugin does this.
Thank you. FWIW, I'll link to a few of the threads related to the issue I'm referencing.

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=184278

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=181399
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Can't you use "Collect new points"? Hold Ctrl and move the edge
Great !
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Will this bug be fixed that no programchanges are transmitted to Vst3-instruments ? I hope so.

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Great !
Schwa has written the same in automation item pre-release thread: http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...&postcount=190
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This option wasn't removed. If the envelope lane left drag context inserts a point, this insert will happen on the first click. By default, shift+click on an envelope lane inserts a point whether or not you are over the envelope, but you can map this to happen on an unmodified click if you want.

In fact I don't think any default mouse behaviors changed at all.
Funny, must be something to do with 5.4, 5.5 does indeed work as you described, pics here of how 5.4 mouse modifier dialogue looks for me in case it's broken somehow: http://imgur.com/a/3nuGg

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Funny, must be something to do with 5.4, 5.5 does indeed work as you described, pics here of how 5.4 options dialogue looks for me in case it's broken somehow: http://imgur.com/a/3nuGg
Is a click in the envelope lane supposed to deselect points with no mouse modifiers assignments? Mine does.
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