v4.0alpha44 is up

[plush2]

v4.0alpha44 - February 21 2011
+ File converter: fixed file list flickerness during conversions (WinXP+)
+ MIDI editor: arpeggiate movement is based on number of selected notes, rather than note values
+ MIDI editor: user-definable submenus in the snap-to-scale dropdown list
+ MIDI editor: filter window checks to make sure it is onscreen
+ Splash screen: improved behavior relating to notification windows and other fixes
+ Video: fixed some RGB related bugs relating to flipped/rotated video
+ Video: fixed video follows edit of non-video items, improved accuracy in scrub
+ Video: fixes for rendering
+ Video: LCF seeking accuracy fix
+ Video: FFmpeg option in preferences is now to use FFmpeg after OS-decoding

[musicbynumbers]

beat me to it!

[AdamWathan]

Alt+click to delete an item fade is still broken (since alpha18) and toolbar buttons for window visibility still do not display state properly on OSX SWS windows report their state to the toolbars correctly but not native windows.

[musicbynumbers]

also, In the last alpha I didn't need the video window pinned but now if I touch the arrange page for things like moving an item the video window goes behind reaper itself (reaper is not set to always on top either or full screen mode)

This is on win7 64bit with reaper32 bit alpha 44

[bennisixx]

Wanted to say great job on the MIDI editor. It's shaping up nicely.

Anyway to dock the filter dialog box?-say to the right of the editor, mirroring the keys? It's always in the way.

again, a million thank yous.

[gwok]

Originally Posted by plush2

v4.0alpha44 - February 21 2011

+ Splash screen: improved behavior relating to notification windows and other fixes

nice.....

still hoping to see preview source in media explorer and two way mirroring work properly

[musicbynumbers]

I haven't updated ffmpeg for a few months though could be that..

Length: 2:18.159
Video: 1920x1080@25.00fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=YV12


Using FFmpeg DLL decoder v52.61.0 (--enable-shared --disable-static --enable-memalign-hack --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --cc=ccache-i686-mingw32-gcc --arch=i686 --target-os=mingw32 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-bzlib --enable-libgsm --enable-libfaad --enable-pthreads --enable-libvorbis --enable-libtheora --enable-libspeex --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libxvid --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libx264 --enable-libopencore_amrwb --enable-libopencore_amrnb)
Video: cinepak, yuv420p, 1920x1080

[mikeroephonics]

+ MIDI editor: filter window checks to make sure it is onscreen

Thanks for this, Schwa...or whomever

[musicbynumbers]

as title says

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by bennisixx

Anyway to dock the filter dialog box?-say to the right of the editor, mirroring the keys? It's always in the way.

Yes! Definitely needed!

[musicbynumbers]

I have multiple monitors below my main one and when opening lots of midi items I get one long continuous list with no scroll bar (if one is meant to be there?)

Looks cool though! just not practical

[airon]

Will test video functions in the morning.

Thanks for fixing the video-follows-edits stuff. Highly appreciated.

[musicbynumbers]

Reposting this as I think it would be very useful

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet (not read through it all) but surely a mega useful feature would be to have an additional tick bock next to scale for "auto detect key" and all this would do is auto change/define the key simply by detecting what note the first note you draw is on.

This would be so powerful (unless I'm not thinking it through)?) and would allow to change key very easily.

so..

step 1, tick "auto" box

step 2, use pencil modifier to draw first note (and keep it held)

step 3, drag your notes (they will now be in the key of the first drawn note)

step 4, let go of mouse button and go to another note, repeat step 1 for "good times by all"-Explain the folder section and how to create dedicated folder

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by airon

Will test video functions in the morning.

Thanks for fixing the video-follows-edits stuff. Highly appreciated.

Indeed here too, have a 5.1 one film to start mixing this week and going to dive in on the alpha (as no one will be behind me watching if it crashes!)

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by plush2

+ Video: FFmpeg option in preferences is now to use FFmpeg after OS-decoding

This is really smart, thank you very mucho. I just tried a couple of short previews I've been working with and it seems to play fine since I have the K-Lite codecs pack installed (64-bits complements). I'll report again if I find issues during the week.

Thanks again!

[musicbynumbers]

Still can't open up effects directly from the bay (win 7 64bit with reaper 32bit)

(oh and.. did I ever mention the solo button is missing?)

[musicbynumbers]

Below is info BUT If you watch the whole vid there is one more BUG that I didn't mention,

1-every time I try to move an item into or out of a fader "retain" comes on automatically.

2-deleted folder comes back on moving an item into other folder

..and..

3-no way to pull items from folder if all items are foldered

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by Mercado_Negro

This is really smart, thank you very mucho. I just tried a couple of short previews I've been working with and it seems to play fine since I have the K-Lite codecs pack installed (64-bits complements). I'll report again if I find issues during the week.

Thanks again!

Let me get this straight

we can use other codecs now other than ffmpeg or the basic ones?

[schwa]

Originally Posted by AdamWathan

Alt+click to delete an item fade is still broken (since alpha18)

Is it? The default behavior for alt-drag on fades was changed at some point for symmetry with the other behaviors, if I change the behavior to "delete fade/crossfade" it seems to work as expected.

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

Let me get this straight

we can use other codecs now other than ffmpeg or the basic ones?

You can use your OS codecs now, yep. K-lite is a good option for a wide palette of codecs. It seems to play fine now

[mikeroephonics]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

I have multiple monitors below my main one and when opening lots of midi items I get one long continuous list with no scroll bar (if one is meant to be there?)

Looks cool though! just not practical

There is no scrollbar in the Filer Events box. It would be great if the Filter Events box had:

1.) Scrollbars (both vertical and horizontal)
i. Long Track/Media Item names get cut off currently (horizontal scroll would fix this.)
ii. If you have lots of MIDI events in the Filter Events box, the bottom portion of the list gets cut off (a vertical scrollbar would fix this.)

2.) Resizable Filter box window size via bottom-right corner (like any standard Windows.) For a floating Filter box, this would solve the horizontal issues mentioned above

3.) Dockable (to the right, opposite the piano keys by default) with a vertical divider to adjust how much of the Filter is viewable. The bar would work just like the TCP/Arrange area vertical bar. I can't see this being too useful docked on the top or bottom of the MIDI Editor, since a top-to-bottom list seems most efficient. To the right feels best to me.

4.) Filter 'Rec-Arm', 'Mute' & 'Solo' buttons linked to the corresponding *Track* controls.
i. Rec-Arm button: Arms the corresponding Track Rec-Arm on the TCP/MCPs. I think it should work both ways. Arm one of the following: TCP, MCP Rec-Arm button on Filter box, and all others mirror the state of the one you click.
i.e. - Arm Filter box Rec-Arm button...TCP & MCP follow.
ii. I think the best way to handle Filter Events box mute & solo (if it ever does get implemented...crosses fingers!) is to make them link directly to the *Track*, not the Media Item, as described above for Rec-Arming.

5.) An additional "locked/unlocked" box immediately to the right of the show/hide button. Click it to lock all MIDI events on that Media Item from edits. Think of it as preventative health for you MIDI tracks.

6.) Multiple MIDI Media Item selection
i. Done via Ctrl+Leftclick on multiple colored boxes. <= Just like on Track selection.
ii. Shift+Leftclick would select a range. <= Just like on Track selection.
iii. You'd end up with a white "X" over any box you clicked while holding Ctrl/Shift.
iv. This should: Resize, move left/right. transpose, stretch, delete, copy, cut, paste any events selected in the Filter, denoted by multiple 'X's".

Did I miss anything, ED? lol

[bennisixx]

Originally Posted by mikeroephonics

There is no scrollbar in the Filer Events box. It would be great if the Filter Events box had:

1.) Scrollbars (both vertical and horizontal)
i. Long Track/Media Item names get cut off currently (horizontal scroll would fix this.)
ii. If you have lots of MIDI events in the Filter Events box, the bottom portion of the list gets cut off (a vertical scrollbar would fix this.)

2.) Resizable Filter box window size via bottom-right corner (like any standard Windows.) For a floating Filter box, this would solve the horizontal issues mentioned above

3.) Dockable (to the right, opposite the piano keys by default) with a vertical divider to adjust how much of the Filter is viewable. The bar would work just like the TCP/Arrange area vertical bar. I can't see this being too useful docked on the top or bottom of the MIDI Editor, since a top-to-bottom list seems most efficient. To the right feels best to me.

4.) Filter 'Rec-Arm', 'Mute' & 'Solo' buttons linked to the corresponding *Track* controls.
i. Rec-Arm button: Arms the corresponding Track Rec-Arm on the TCP/MCPs. I think it should work both ways. Arm one of the following: TCP, MCP Rec-Arm button on Filter box, and all others mirror the state of the one you click.
i.e. - Arm Filter box Rec-Arm button...TCP & MCP follow.
ii. I think the best way to handle Filter Events box mute & solo (if it ever does get implemented...crosses fingers!) is to make them link directly to the *Track*, not the Media Item, as described above for Rec-Arming.

5.) An additional "locked/unlocked" box immediately to the right of the show/hide button. Click it to lock all MIDI events on that Media Item from edits. Think of it as preventative health for you MIDI tracks.

6.) Multiple MIDI Media Item selection
i. Done via Ctrl+Leftclick on multiple colored boxes. <= Just like on Track selection.
ii. Shift+Leftclick would select a range. <= Just like on Track selection.
iii. You'd end up with a white "X" over any box you clicked while holding Ctrl/Shift.

grin ...

[jpettit]

Made selection to use OS decoder first (however my previous tests on a43 all said they were using Direct Show anyway)

The good news MOV's now play well on a44.

The bad news:
WMV files that use to load but not play on a43 now hang on load in a44.
Started to see hangs while closing and loading old and new projects. Nasty hangs could not kill threads easily (> 5 mins) ultimately had to resort to reboots. Really slows testing down and burns you out.
Tried with and without new decoder setting with same results.

Format: Bit rate: Frame rate: Size: Audio: Comments:
H.264 3.0 Mbps 29.97 1920 X 1080P 48 KHz 2:45 Mp4 Plays and interacts well.
AVI 3.0 Mbps 60 1680 X 1080P 48 KHz :25 AVI Various results from OK to Jerky playback
MOV Video: 1080x720@29.89fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=YUY2 Using DirectShow decoder works great
WMV 4.5 Mbps 29 720x 480 48 KHz 2:00 WMV file that use to load but not play a43 now hang on during building of peaks in a44. All WMV files of any format died upon loading
AVCHD 3.0 Mbps 29.97 1920 X 1080P 48 KHz 2:45 Mts ERROR will not import ( even though they play find on OS DirectShow Windows Media or other players on my system)

[jpettit]

Originally Posted by mikeroephonics

There is no scrollbar in the Filer Events box. It would be great if the Filter Events box had:

1.) Scrollbars (both vertical and horizontal)
i. Long Track/Media Item names get cut off currently (horizontal scroll would fix this.)
ii. If you have lots of MIDI events in the Filter Events box, the bottom portion of the list gets cut off (a vertical scrollbar would fix this.)

2.) Resizable Filter box window size via bottom-right corner (like any standard Windows.) For a floating Filter box, this would solve the horizontal issues mentioned above

3.) Dockable (to the right, opposite the piano keys by default) with a vertical divider to adjust how much of the Filter is viewable. The bar would work just like the TCP/Arrange area vertical bar. I can't see this being too useful docked on the top or bottom of the MIDI Editor, since a top-to-bottom list seems most efficient. To the right feels best to me.

4.) Filter 'Rec-Arm', 'Mute' & 'Solo' buttons linked to the corresponding *Track* controls.
i. Rec-Arm button: Arms the corresponding Track Rec-Arm on the TCP/MCPs. I think it should work both ways. Arm one of the following: TCP, MCP Rec-Arm button on Filter box, and all others mirror the state of the one you click.
i.e. - Arm Filter box Rec-Arm button...TCP & MCP follow.
ii. I think the best way to handle Filter Events box mute & solo (if it ever does get implemented...crosses fingers!) is to make them link directly to the *Track*, not the Media Item, as described above for Rec-Arming.

5.) An additional "locked/unlocked" box immediately to the right of the show/hide button. Click it to lock all MIDI events on that Media Item from edits. Think of it as preventative health for you MIDI tracks.

6.) Multiple MIDI Media Item selection
i. Done via Ctrl+Leftclick on multiple colored boxes. <= Just like on Track selection.
ii. Shift+Leftclick would select a range. <= Just like on Track selection.
iii. You'd end up with a white "X" over any box you clicked while holding Ctrl/Shift.
iv. This should: Resize, move left/right. transpose, stretch, delete, copy, cut, paste any events selected in the Filter, denoted by multiple 'X's".

Did I miss anything, ED? lol

Yes! or put another way maybe the original intent for the filter window has change so much now why not build it into the MIDI editor window add S/M per track an oh yes allow us to scrub all un muted MIDI tracks. FR http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=3261

[PitchSlap]

Originally Posted by plush2

+ Video:

FLV files don't show up in the Media Explorer and can't be imported through drag and drop, but if renamed to .AVI they can.

Since this is probably the most common video format in the world (YouTube etc.), it would be nice if they could be supported...

[mikeroephonics]

Originally Posted by jpettit

Yes! or put another way maybe the original intent for the filter window has change so much now why not build it into the MIDI editor window add S/M per track an oh yes allow us to scrub all un muted MIDI tracks. FR http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=3261

Good thinking!

In my opinion:
MIDI Scrub should play ALL *visible* MIDI events that are solo'ed.
I think an additional option to scrub all MIDI events, regardless of visibility in the MIDI Editor would be helpful. Maybe keep it in Preferences? A checkbox within the MIDI Editor for this would also be good, for fast scrub preference switching.

MIDI Scrub should *not* play muted MIDI events (both muted on the Track as well as muted notes.)

[bradleyfilms]

Cool tip PitchSlap, cheers
Steve

[jpettit]

Originally Posted by mikeroephonics

Good thinking!

In my opinion:
MIDI Scrub should play ALL *visible* MIDI events that are solo'ed.
I think an additional option to scrub all MIDI events, regardless of visibility in the MIDI Editor would be helpful. Maybe keep it in Preferences? A checkbox within the MIDI Editor for this would also be good, for fast scrub preference switching.

MIDI Scrub should *not* play muted MIDI events (both muted on the Track as well as muted notes.)

Agree

[mikeroephonics]

This epitomizes my thoughts on the Filter Events box:

Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring - performed by Jay Bacal w/ VSL - Part 1 of 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB3njyDW8SY

Very MIDI-intensive project using Vienna Symphonic Library.
Note the filter box on the right. Want to transpose the entire piece up a semitone in REAPER? See you in a few hours...hehe

[Dstruct]

Originally Posted by plush2

+ Video: fixes for rendering

Still crashing here.

http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=3246

[Eyes]

Originally Posted by mikeroephonics

There is no scrollbar in the Filer Events box. It would be great if the Filter Events box had:

1.) Scrollbars (both vertical and horizontal)
i. Long Track/Media Item names get cut off currently (horizontal scroll would fix this.)
ii. If you have lots of MIDI events in the Filter Events box, the bottom portion of the list gets cut off (a vertical scrollbar would fix this.)

2.) Resizable Filter box window size via bottom-right corner (like any standard Windows.) For a floating Filter box, this would solve the horizontal issues mentioned above

3.) Dockable (to the right, opposite the piano keys by default) with a vertical divider to adjust how much of the Filter is viewable. The bar would work just like the TCP/Arrange area vertical bar. I can't see this being too useful docked on the top or bottom of the MIDI Editor, since a top-to-bottom list seems most efficient. To the right feels best to me.

4.) Filter 'Rec-Arm', 'Mute' & 'Solo' buttons linked to the corresponding *Track* controls.
i. Rec-Arm button: Arms the corresponding Track Rec-Arm on the TCP/MCPs. I think it should work both ways. Arm one of the following: TCP, MCP Rec-Arm button on Filter box, and all others mirror the state of the one you click.
i.e. - Arm Filter box Rec-Arm button...TCP & MCP follow.
ii. I think the best way to handle Filter Events box mute & solo (if it ever does get implemented...crosses fingers!) is to make them link directly to the *Track*, not the Media Item, as described above for Rec-Arming.

5.) An additional "locked/unlocked" box immediately to the right of the show/hide button. Click it to lock all MIDI events on that Media Item from edits. Think of it as preventative health for you MIDI tracks.

6.) Multiple MIDI Media Item selection
i. Done via Ctrl+Leftclick on multiple colored boxes. <= Just like on Track selection.
ii. Shift+Leftclick would select a range. <= Just like on Track selection.
iii. You'd end up with a white "X" over any box you clicked while holding Ctrl/Shift.
iv. This should: Resize, move left/right. transpose, stretch, delete, copy, cut, paste any events selected in the Filter, denoted by multiple 'X's".

Did I miss anything, ED? lol

Sounds good to me.

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by mikeroephonics

There is no scrollbar in the Filer Events box. It would be great if the Filter Events box had:

1.) Scrollbars (both vertical and horizontal)
i. Long Track/Media Item names get cut off currently (horizontal scroll would fix this.)
ii. If you have lots of MIDI events in the Filter Events box, the bottom portion of the list gets cut off (a vertical scrollbar would fix this.)

2.) Resizable Filter box window size via bottom-right corner (like any standard Windows.) For a floating Filter box, this would solve the horizontal issues mentioned above

3.) Dockable (to the right, opposite the piano keys by default) with a vertical divider to adjust how much of the Filter is viewable. The bar would work just like the TCP/Arrange area vertical bar. I can't see this being too useful docked on the top or bottom of the MIDI Editor, since a top-to-bottom list seems most efficient. To the right feels best to me.

4.) Filter 'Rec-Arm', 'Mute' & 'Solo' buttons linked to the corresponding *Track* controls.
i. Rec-Arm button: Arms the corresponding Track Rec-Arm on the TCP/MCPs. I think it should work both ways. Arm one of the following: TCP, MCP Rec-Arm button on Filter box, and all others mirror the state of the one you click.
i.e. - Arm Filter box Rec-Arm button...TCP & MCP follow.
ii. I think the best way to handle Filter Events box mute & solo (if it ever does get implemented...crosses fingers!) is to make them link directly to the *Track*, not the Media Item, as described above for Rec-Arming.

5.) An additional "locked/unlocked" box immediately to the right of the show/hide button. Click it to lock all MIDI events on that Media Item from edits. Think of it as preventative health for you MIDI tracks.

6.) Multiple MIDI Media Item selection
i. Done via Ctrl+Leftclick on multiple colored boxes. <= Just like on Track selection.
ii. Shift+Leftclick would select a range. <= Just like on Track selection.
iii. You'd end up with a white "X" over any box you clicked while holding Ctrl/Shift.
iv. This should: Resize, move left/right. transpose, stretch, delete, copy, cut, paste any events selected in the Filter, denoted by multiple 'X's".

Did I miss anything, ED? lol

No, you did not miss anything. These would be welcome additions.


Perhaps just Alt+clicking the colored box would allow us to change the item color...

[gofer]

You didn't ask me, but I miss a thing which I find important :

Separate "hide from Piano Roll" from "collapse item boxes". Right now collapsing in the filter list is hiding all the track's items from the Piano Roll.

I'd prefer to have just the track boxes in the filter list (don't see any individual items in that list) and still have them shown in the Piano Roll. Hiding complete tracks should be done by right click the track's box (like it's done with individual items).

[Subz]

Originally Posted by mikeroephonics

It would be great if the Filter Events box had:

1.) Scrollbars (both vertical and horizontal)
i. Long Track/Media Item names get cut off currently (horizontal scroll would fix this.)
ii. If you have lots of MIDI events in the Filter Events box, the bottom portion of the list gets cut off (a vertical scrollbar would fix this.)

2.) Resizable Filter box window size via bottom-right corner (like any standard Windows.) For a floating Filter box, this would solve the horizontal issues mentioned above

3.) Dockable (to the right, opposite the piano keys by default) with a vertical divider to adjust how much of the Filter is viewable. The bar would work just like the TCP/Arrange area vertical bar. I can't see this being too useful docked on the top or bottom of the MIDI Editor, since a top-to-bottom list seems most efficient. To the right feels best to me.

4.) Filter 'Rec-Arm', 'Mute' & 'Solo' buttons linked to the corresponding *Track* controls.
i. Rec-Arm button: Arms the corresponding Track Rec-Arm on the TCP/MCPs. I think it should work both ways. Arm one of the following: TCP, MCP Rec-Arm button on Filter box, and all others mirror the state of the one you click.
i.e. - Arm Filter box Rec-Arm button...TCP & MCP follow.
ii. I think the best way to handle Filter Events box mute & solo (if it ever does get implemented...crosses fingers!) is to make them link directly to the *Track*, not the Media Item, as described above for Rec-Arming.

5.) An additional "locked/unlocked" box immediately to the right of the show/hide button. Click it to lock all MIDI events on that Media Item from edits. Think of it as preventative health for you MIDI tracks.

6.) Multiple MIDI Media Item selection
i. Done via Ctrl+Leftclick on multiple colored boxes. <= Just like on Track selection.
ii. Shift+Leftclick would select a range. <= Just like on Track selection.
iii. You'd end up with a white "X" over any box you clicked while holding Ctrl/Shift.
iv. This should: Resize, move left/right. transpose, stretch, delete, copy, cut, paste any events selected in the Filter, denoted by multiple 'X's".

The Dream

[Xasman]

+ MIDI editor: user-definable submenus in the snap-to-scale dropdown list

Many thanks for this!

[bob]

Originally Posted by mikeroephonics

This epitomizes my thoughts on the Filter Events box:

Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring - performed by Jay Bacal w/ VSL - Part 1 of 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB3njyDW8SY

Very MIDI-intensive project using Vienna Symphonic Library.
Note the filter box on the right. Want to transpose the entire piece up a semitone in REAPER? See you in a few hours...hehe

that was amazing

[Astro]

This does not contain everything that a docked Midi filter could, but here is a rough version of what it could be like.
Personally if the filter was like this..it would make a huge difference I feel.
https://stash.reaper.fm/7993/Filter1-Sc.jpg

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by gofer

Separate "hide from Piano Roll" from "collapse item boxes". Right now collapsing in the filter list is hiding all the track's items from the Piano Roll.

I'd prefer to have just the track boxes in the filter list (don't see any individual items in that list) and still have them shown in the Piano Roll. Hiding complete tracks should be done by right click the track's box (like it's done with individual items).

Good points, I agree!

[Evgeny Bardyuzha]

ahh...still no reaparts (or smthng like this)(((

[Janne83]

Grid/Notes boxes are still disappearing when opening different Midi items in the same midi editor.

OS X 32bit REaper

J