Old 06-23-2015, 03:01 PM   #241
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How do you know that the devs don't use Reaper? Until I see some kind of proof of that, I'm gonna say that's a ridiculous, presumptuous statement.

And if you've looked at the Cockos business model at all, you'll see quite convincingly that they are definitely NOT all about the money. I suggest you do your homework.
Not about the money? i think you're confused
what about their divided licenses?
pretty obvious that i state with facts

I suggest you to review your statements

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Old 06-23-2015, 05:06 PM   #242
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Not about the money? i think you're confused
what about their divided licenses?
pretty obvious that i state with facts

I suggest you to review your statements
So you think the pricing is unfair? They should give the software away to guys like you? You join the forum a month ago and already you have better ideas about how things should be?

I'm still wanting to know where you get the idea that the devs don't use Reaper. Do you think you're talking about some big huge corporation here?

If it was all about the money, do you honestly think there would be a 'demo' that isn't really a demo at all, but a fully-functioning version of the program? One that never really expires or stops functioning? A company that puts their product out there knowing that a large number of users will remain non-paying users? If it was all about the money there would certainly be restrictions and limitations like every other demo version of software.

Sorry, but you have it wrong this time.
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:47 PM   #243
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Hasan: If you genuinely believe the devs dont use reaper you need to go visit Justins blog.
And as edKilp says, dont make assumptions without checking the facts first!
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:16 PM   #244
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Agreed, Problem is we users can't have the final decision some of the devs don't even use reaper they just are programmers why would they decide for us when they even don't use reaper. we users use it why do they not let us decide?

You know why because they follow someone who is ignorant and don't really know about software and does not care at all just for the money...
You obviously have Reaper confused with Avid...
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:38 PM   #245
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Not about the money? i think you're confused
what about their divided licenses?
pretty obvious that i state with facts
Obviously they are about the money, which is saving you from having to spend any more of it than you should if you are just a hobbyist.

Why on earth would you have a problem with that?
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:02 AM   #246
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So you think the pricing is unfair? They should give the software away to guys like you? You join the forum a month ago and already you have better ideas about how things should be?

I'm still wanting to know where you get the idea that the devs don't use Reaper. Do you think you're talking about some big huge corporation here?

If it was all about the money, do you honestly think there would be a 'demo' that isn't really a demo at all, but a fully-functioning version of the program? One that never really expires or stops functioning? A company that puts their product out there knowing that a large number of users will remain non-paying users? If it was all about the money there would certainly be restrictions and limitations like every other demo version of software.

Sorry, but you have it wrong this time.
they do it for marketing here is a quote found on reddit

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Its their strategy of selling reaper

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Hasan: If you genuinely believe the devs dont use reaper you need to go visit Justins blog.
And as edKilp says, dont make assumptions without checking the facts first!
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Obviously they are about the money, which is saving you from having to spend any more of it than you should if you are just a hobbyist.

Why on earth would you have a problem with that?
I don't have a problem with that i have a problem with those awkward R5 theme
Reaper 4 and 3 theme are all okay but R5 theme is so amateur i could even made a better theme

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Old 06-24-2015, 05:18 AM   #247
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The obvious response to that is: OK go ahead.



You may not realise it, but your whole tone is pretty aggressive and self-congratulatory.
I am not wanting to start a fight, just letting you know the impression you are giving, which I am sure is unintentional.
As my wife often says to me when I get too caught up in a subject:
"Wind your neck in"

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Old 06-24-2015, 05:44 AM   #248
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The obvious response to that is: OK go ahead.



You may not realise it, but your whole tone is pretty aggressive and self-congratulatory.
I am not wanting to start a fight, just letting you know the impression you are giving, which I am sure is unintentional.
As my wife often says to me when I get too caught up in a subject:
"Wind your neck in"

You are so sympathetic
With those understatements like Hasan`s, i use to say: "hier rein, da raus"!

Can you translate "Wind your neck in" in german?

To the topic:
I unfortunately find reaper after i spend a lot of money for other "hipper" daw`s. If i had known about reapers functions and of course business-model before, this would be the only daw i ever use.
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The obvious response to that is: OK go ahead.



You may not realise it, but your whole tone is pretty aggressive and self-congratulatory.
I am not wanting to start a fight, just letting you know the impression you are giving, which I am sure is unintentional.
As my wife often says to me when I get too caught up in a subject:
"Wind your neck in"

You're the the one who is here agressive tbh
and what was aggressive about what i said?

I am trying to prove a point that the guy is wrong

he called me Arrogant which i am definetely not
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:58 AM   #250
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You are so sympathetic
With those understatements like Hasan`s, i use to say: "hier rein, da raus"!

Can you translate "Wind your neck in" in german?

To the topic:
I unfortunately find reaper after i spend a lot of money for other "hipper" daw`s. If i had known about reapers functions and of course business-model before, this would be the only daw i ever use.
I assume that hier rein, da raus is to offend me it is not working i wil not get offended by low minded people..

Translate german is you're rude..

and same goes to you ivansc

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Old 06-24-2015, 06:27 AM   #251
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I assume that hier rein, da raus is to offend me it is not working i wil not get offended by low minded people..

Translate german is you're rude..

and same goes to you ivansc
It´s not to offend you. Its to ignore worthless contributions. And it doesn`t matter from who they are! YOU ARE NOT SO IMPORTANT! "Flieg nicht so hoch, mein kleiner Freund"
It`s up to you, high minded man
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It´s not to offend you. Its to ignore worthless contributions. And it doesn`t matter from who they are! YOU ARE NOT SO IMPORTANT! "Flieg nicht so hoch, mein kleiner Freund"
It`s up to you, high minded man

Wow, High minded man? so my big friend you're playing this game?
Alright then i decide to go for it..

Worthless contributions oh i see

I assume that you didn't like my idea or you are just a troll or worse

we don't want that boring theme introduced to new reaper users

First impressions are always important.

You have also Apollo4 theme installed probably

Let me explain why this guy also began to insult

simple because he feels that he is special
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Old 06-24-2015, 07:35 AM   #253
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Reaper 4 and 3 theme are all okay but R5 theme is so amateur i could even made a better theme
Please, do it.
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Please, do it.
I am getting really annoyed by comments like this I do not hate anyone but these comment you just made are from the mindset of 5 year olds

and to prove that your name Aux13 worthless contributor
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All I ask you was to make a better theme and now I have mindset of 5 year old and I'm worthless contributor. Great.....

Which DAW or GUI do you like?
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All I ask you was to make a better theme and now I have mindset of 5 year old and I'm worthless contributor. Great.....

I saw you also don't like Logic pro GUI....
Which DAW or GUI do you like?
Well you should say it the right way then.. it gives me a wrong impression

Anyways I like Apollo4 theme

also i am considering to switch to a different DAW
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Well you should say it the right way then.. it gives me a wrong impression
Sorry, English is not my native language...
and it's not nice to insult people just because you have a wrong impression...

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Sorry, English is not my native language...
Hey no problem english is also not my native language

i meant it gave me a wrong impression but you're right

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Old 06-24-2015, 08:45 AM   #259
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I don't have a problem with that i have a problem with those awkward R5 theme
Reaper 4 and 3 theme are all okay but R5 theme is so amateur i could even made a better theme
Reaper 5 is not even released, you should respect the forum rules and confine your comments about it to the pre-release section.

Reaper 4 theme is fine IMO. I didn't particularly love it but it only took me about 5 minutes to learn how to change it. Hardly worth spending the time and energy to publicly complain about it when there are so many options and the ability to customize your own.

I find the Reaper marketing approach to be very refreshing and of much higher integrity than any I can think of. It costs less than most pay for a single plugin. Of all the DAW companies they would be the least subject to criticism in this regard.
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of all daws reaper should be least? don't think so

FL Studio lifetime free upgrades is better pricing.

Anyway agreed we should stick to the topic but it doesn't matter anymore..
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:10 AM   #261
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I hate to interrupt a good tape measure contest, but as far as a better standard theme for Reaper goes ... I would love to have a usable one.

I use Apollo ... but where did it go?

If Reaper looked and felt like Sonar X3 or Platinum I would love it.
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So, does anyone still have the files and can offer them for download?
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This theme is great, thanks to the creator for their hard work.
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So, does anyone still have the files and can offer them for download?
Yes, I have a theme called 'Apollo B' I've had for a while, but I don't recall if it's different than Apollo 4. If so I'd really be interested to check out Apollo 4 if anyone has it.
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So, does anyone still have the files and can offer them for download?
Apollo4_b1 is still posted in the Stash

http://stash.reaper.fm/theme/920/Apollo%204

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Old 07-19-2015, 02:09 AM   #266
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The theme from this thread here is quite different from appollo b1.

I actually found a version from January this year on my machine now. But I think there was a newer one even.

Also, does anyone know what the legal status for making small changes and redistributing is?
If this is allowed then we could keep this great theme alive!
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Good question, i would like to know this myself.
My first though is that if it is missing any form of 'disclaimer' then yeah, legally it is ok i guess.
Then we have the gentlemen thing that taps on the shoulder and add worry.
If you ask me, if no disclaimer, then it should be fine if you credit the creators, even if it is obvious who is.
Should be done by default anyway, artists is so sensitive i tell you.
So yeah, i would like to hear from someone who knows for sure what is what.

There is an older ApolloDark that is based on Wittis code though still online for what it worth.
I also hope lampshade get his new one finished before christmas.
Hope Witty comes back for what it's worth.
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Apollo4_b1 is still posted in the Stash

http://stash.reaper.fm/theme/920/Apollo%204

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Thank you very much! This is definitely much different than the one I have, and much better.
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Thank you very much! This is definitely much different than the one I have, and much better.
I kind of like aspects of both. I do like the overall appearance of the original (b1) more (e.g. the vu meter colours; alternating row colours in the arrange view; the MCP levels and pan readout changing to an input indicator when in record mode), but some things, like the vertical meters in the TCP (even when minimised!) are really cool in the mod of Witti. Witti's version also seems less "busy" or so.

For me, I adapted Witti's version to at least include the alternate row colours and I might also change the vu meters and the input indicator. The question still remains, if I would be allowed to redistribute this then...
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Good news people!

http://stash.reaper.fm/theme/1589/Apollo4forall.zip

Thanks man!
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If anyone likes to dock the transport on top and another toolbar docked on it's side, you should change >
row 2058: set trans.size.minmax [419 105 419 105] into > [419 40 419 105] or it will waste space like a *blip!*
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Great! Thanks from me, too!
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