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Old 03-31-2011, 12:20 PM   #81
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Oh my... I definitely write lots of notes for every section, I'd love to see that mockup implemented.

Currently I used empty items to store note with lots of text but they are not great to work with -- scrolls off screen, lots of wasted space and awkward to create.
you might like this idea then Casey!

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Old 03-31-2011, 12:38 PM   #82
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Oh my... I definitely write lots of notes for every section, I'd love to see that mockup implemented.

Currently I used empty items to store note with lots of text but they are not great to work with -- scrolls off screen, lots of wasted space and awkward to create.
forgive me casey, but I sort of put that mock up here as a tongue in cheek joke about how endless the thinking about how much text should be possible in a region...

I guess I better be more careful about making JOKES!
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:00 PM   #83
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Default Region sizing Bug within MIDI editor

Region Sizing Bug within the MIDI editor:



Reproducibility on PC X64 Reaper:

1. I create a region in the main ruler;
2. I open the built-in MIDI editor;
3. I try to resize the region from the left;
4. Bug.

It seems it doesn't do it all the time. When there are long MIDI item, I encountered no such bug.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:16 PM   #84
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Shouldn't the region colors be copied along with the region?

When I Ctl-Drag a region, the copied region switches back to the theme default (no color) setting.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:24 PM   #85
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I get a similar problem in v3.75 - it takes two keypresses to get my F8 or F9 screenset if on the "other" one.
This is weird. I never had this in V3.75 or earlier versions. Will check again.


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No, this was quite funny!

In fact, I'd like to see the options to have the text right-aligned and centered as well. Also to have it bold, italic, underlined and dropshadowed (depending on the background color, of course) would be nice. Even a font-choice should be considered, so I could use Cloister Black.

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Why not just add an option for users to make additional Marker and Region lanes?

You could add or remove them just like you can with anything else.

Modular and simple.
+1... and as we're at it: I still think there should be two independent lanes (and marker types) for time-signature and tempo as well.




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Old 03-31-2011, 01:31 PM   #86
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Shouldn't the region colors be copied along with the region?

When I Ctl-Drag a region, the copied region switches back to the theme default (no color) setting.
CONFIRMED!

and I totally agree that the color should be copied with the region... como no?
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:35 PM   #87
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Region Sizing Bug within the MIDI editor:



Reproducibility on PC X64 Reaper:

1. I create a region in the main ruler;
2. I open the built-in MIDI editor;
3. I try to resize the region from the left;
4. Bug.

It seems it doesn't do it all the time. When there are long MIDI item, I encountered no such bug.
Have a nice day all.

What about "Snap to Grid"? Possibity?
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:53 PM   #88
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What about "Snap to Grid"? Possibity?
resize of regions in the midi ed. seems to work OK for me on XP SP2, V4 60 32 bit...

I cannot move the regions in the midi ed. but can resize them OK
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:54 PM   #89
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Region Sizing Bug within the MIDI editor:



Reproducibility on PC X64 Reaper:

1. I create a region in the main ruler;
2. I open the built-in MIDI editor;
3. I try to resize the region from the left;
4. Bug.

It seems it doesn't do it all the time. When there are long MIDI item, I encountered no such bug.
Have a nice day all.
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What about "Snap to Grid"? Possibity?
Confirmed.

Yes, this happens only if snap is turned on. You can lengthen or shorten the region from its end, but when trying this from its start, it immediately snaps to a length of 0.



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Old 03-31-2011, 05:50 PM   #90
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why can't we adjust tracks' height at will anymore ? it was one Reaper's best features in my opinion. It's not even available on the v3 layout now.

oh and do you have any plans on making sliders available on v4 layout ?
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:46 AM   #91
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Seconded, track height adjustment is really important for me as well. I'd very much like the default "minimal" TCP track layout to lose the meters and just have a large name field with nothing else. I usually work with hundreds of tracks and have track height at minimum. I have the mixer docked at the bottom so there's no use in having meters or buttons in two places on the same window...
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:16 AM   #92
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why can't we adjust tracks' height at will anymore ? it was one Reaper's best features in my opinion.
Humm, that don't sound good.

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I have the mixer docked at the bottom so there's no use in having meters or buttons in two places on the same window...
Oh, but not everyone has thier tracks in both places. The track layout in the TCP is just as important.
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:41 AM   #93
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you might like this idea then Casey!

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=77559
Yes thats fancy.

I figured it was a joke, but boy would this be useful. For film scoring the area of a region is often an entire song. The directors notes alone, often fill up the space in the mockup.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:11 AM   #94
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why can't we adjust tracks' height at will anymore ? it was one Reaper's best features in my opinion. It's not even available on the v3 layout now.

oh and do you have any plans on making sliders available on v4 layout ?
What exactly do you mean? I think I can do everything with track heights that was possible in v3.x, but I might miss something.
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Old 04-01-2011, 01:36 PM   #95
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why can't we adjust tracks' height at will anymore ? it was one Reaper's best features in my opinion. It's not even available on the v3 layout now.
What do you mean? No functionality has been taken away as far as I can tell:

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ah nevermind, it's all right . sorry
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Old 04-01-2011, 02:22 PM   #97
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Hi Schwa, Looks like this problem happens only when the track is armed (i.e. When armed, the track height won't collapse beyond a certain point). See attached licecap.
Uncheck "Always show full track control panel on armed tracks" under Preferences/Audio/Recording. That's not new to v4, btw
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Uncheck "Always show full track control panel on armed tracks" under Preferences/Audio/Recording. That's not new to v4, btw
Quite right, I just noticed that and consequently deleted my previous post (highly embarrassing)...
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Old 04-01-2011, 02:27 PM   #99
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Quite right, I just noticed that and consequently deleted my previous post (highly embarrassing)...
embarrassing? Heh if you only knew how many times I've missed stuff like that man
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What do you mean? No functionality has been taken away as far as I can tell:

your right, but it reminds me to ask, why is all the "junk" stay centered vertically when expanded? shouldn't it be at the top, It looks weird.
or is this a theme thing?
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It's the themers choice
You can attach items to top/bottom or sides or not at all
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It's the themers choice
You can attach items to top/bottom or sides or not at all
thanks for clarifying.
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What do you mean? No functionality has been taken away as far as I can tell:

Hey Schwa, when you move resize one track like this it shows the track being resized as you move it (similar to your licecap).

However if you have multiple selected and attempt to resize multiple only one shows as changing in realtime. Upon mouse release they all change though.

Is this expected behaviour? Just makes it a little disorentiting when trying to resize to fit screen sizes etc.
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Hey Schwa, when you move resize one track like this it shows the track being resized as you move it (similar to your licecap).

However if you have multiple selected and attempt to resize multiple only one shows as changing in realtime. Upon mouse release they all change though.

Is this expected behaviour? Just makes it a little disorentiting when trying to resize to fit screen sizes etc.
That behavior has been there since 1935 when Justin's grand-grandfather used to....

... to be continued....
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yes that multi trak behaviour has been there a long time... but that surely don't mean it could not be improved!

IMHO it would be MUCH better if when you have multi trak panels selected and you drag one of them, they all resized in real time before you eyes...

Admittedly I don't know how Justin's Grandpa did it, ..but whatever it was he did don't mean it's the best way. Grandpa's can be like that.
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embarrassing? Heh if you only knew how many times I've missed stuff like that man
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:04 AM   #107
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REX2 BR
When you import a REX2 file as single loopable item (Media explorer)
The item does not follow the projects default timebase
So you have to open the item properties and change to beats/bar/length to be able to change tempo and it stay in sync
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Hey Schwa, when you move resize one track like this it shows the track being resized as you move it (similar to your licecap).

However if you have multiple selected and attempt to resize multiple only one shows as changing in realtime. Upon mouse release they all change though.

Is this expected behaviour? Just makes it a little disorentiting when trying to resize to fit screen sizes etc.
Ah yes, the "click up" functions in REAPER. Quite the debated topic amongst us for many years now(since 1935 in the grand-grandfather era). It's definitely an odd one to get use to in the above example.

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Ah, thanks guys. For some reason I thought Reaper behaved more like a modern gentlemen. Obviously not.
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Humm, the more I look at this it don't look right, it's stretching rather funny. Things are getting pulled to the center instead of staying at the top. I'm assumeing that's not how R4 will actually work?

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However if you have multiple selected and attempt to resize multiple only one shows as changing in realtime. Upon mouse release they all change though.
Oops, I never realized this till now.

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Quite the debated topic amongst us for many years now(since 1935 in the grand-grandfather era). It's definitely an odd one to get use to in the above example.
Heh heh, well I'm a great grandpa Shane but it wasn't 1935.

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Humm, the more I look at this it don't look right, it's stretching rather funny. Things are getting pulled to the center instead of staying at the top. I'm assumeing that's not how R4 will actually work?
this is optional in the theme (Walter code)

so more something for White tie's theme thread then Reaper 4 alpha,

i do agree that top is better then central though

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+1, also prefer for everything to stay at the top instead of staying centered. Feel bad saying it though because I know that is a bitch load of WALTER going on to make that happen that won't exactly be easy to remove :/
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+1, also prefer for everything to stay at the top instead of staying centered. Feel bad saying it though because I know that is a bitch load of WALTER going on to make that happen that won't exactly be easy to remove :/
two TCP states?

"tcp main top" & "tcp main centre"

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+1, also prefer for everything to stay at the top instead of staying centered. Feel bad saying it though because I know that is a bitch load of WALTER going on to make that happen that won't exactly be easy to remove :/
It is so much less work to have it just stick to the top, I centered it on my theme originally and decided it was crap , changed it to top sticky and was shocked how much smaller my code was (Massively) now nothing goes in the WALTER code for me unless it is purely needed, Fancy stretching and moving about is all but gone entirely now in my theme, and i am much happier with it (Obviously that is very much personal preference)
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+1, also prefer for everything to stay at the top instead of staying centered. Feel bad saying it though because I know that is a bitch load of WALTER going on to make that happen that won't exactly be easy to remove :/
+1. I thought I'd like it centered but I've done a 180 on the concept. The 3.0 theme just feels right since it's up top like that by default. On that topic, I noticed the 3.0 theme has some good track layouts now. A bit of an update for those who want to keep using it when R4 rolls out the door.

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one problem with centred view is that what happens when you have track parameter fx knobs below the main controls too and also if we get fx inserts on the tcp too then it makes sense to have it at the top.
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I have to admit to disliking the centered view as well. So, this can be changed in the walter code?
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one problem with centred view is that what happens when you have track parameter fx knobs below the main controls too and also if we get fx inserts on the tcp too then it makes sense to have it at the top.
well, I am glad to see that I am not the only one.
--probably should go on a theme team thread though. or this will die as soon as 61 gets here


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set master.mcp.extmixer.mode
set master.mcp.extmixer.position

These are in the default theme RTconfig but don't actually work
You can set show or hide , but the positioning doesn't work
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