5.0pre4 - January 8 2015

[todd_r]

5.0pre4 - January 8 2015
+ API: added CountEnvelopePoints, GetEnvelopePoint, GetEnvelopePointByTime, SetEnvelopePoint, InsertEnvelopePoint, Envelope_SortPoints, Envelope_Evaluate
+ API: added FindTempoTimeSigMarker, EditTempoTimeSigMarker, DeleteTempoTimeSigMarker
+ API: added SetMediaItemTake_Source
+ FX: added sidechain dropdown in pin connector window
+ FX: enable parameter learn menu for rec-input, monitoring, and per-take FX
+ Item fades: fixed potential for invalid output in certain but rare fades
+ MIDI editor: project tempo markers can be viewed and edited in a special lane
+ MIDI: note-off velocity support
+ Media Explorer: fixed MIDI/OSC action binding
+ Notation editor. Early days, feedback welcome!
+ Render queue: fixed invalid render directories/filenames in certain instances [issueid=5459]
# FX: refresh track controls when editing FX parameters
# ReaScript: fixed docked IDE keyboard support on win32
# VST3: show parameter context menu when right-clicking on parameter knob, if plugin supports it
# Video: updated builtin ffmpeg version to include mov container, QTRLE support, ffmpeg 1.2.11
# Volume envelopes: changed project save/load format for fader-scaled envelopes, for compatibility when running older versions of REAPER (note: projects previously saved with fader-scaled envelopes will not load correctly)
# Volume envelopes: fixed manual edit of envelope point value

[Win Conway]

With all these enevelope API add ons, is it theoretically possible for somebody to create a new item type, that say worked for automation, so automation items ?

[Otto Tune]

# Volume envelopes: fixed manual edit of envelope point value

Initial check says this is a big fix, for me. Off for more testing..

[swiiscompos]

I still can't see the transport bar with the default theme! I tried with both 32 and 64 bits versions. OSX 10.9.9

Notation Editor: The characters are waaaaay too big, any idea how to fix that?

EDIT:
I tested the notation editor as much as possible with the above problem and I often got this error when I was drawing a note from the right to the left:

...ications/REAPER64.app/Contents/Plugins/Scripts/score.lua:1213: attempt to index a nil value (field 'hit')

[Xenakios]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

With all these enevelope API add ons, is it theoretically possible for somebody to create a new item type, that say worked for automation, so automation items ?

Sorry to tell you this late, but that would have been possible for a long time already in C++ extension plugins. Of course "possible" needs to be interpreted quite broadly here...(Practically, implementing it would be so messy in a 3rd party plugin that it doesn't quite seem worth it.)

These new API functions for the envelopes are very welcome, though!

[Fergler]

+ FX: enable parameter learn menu for rec-input, monitoring, and per-take FX

Boom, just slide that one in there...

I'll take this post to remind you guys btw that in the Mac version, text highlighting works fine, but in Windows there is no highlight at all and it feels very strange:


EDIT: The following appears to be caused by Default 1.8 Theme, not Reaper's fault! My bad.
// This is highlighted, but nothing shows it as such:

http://puu.sh/efO1p/e3929afbc4.png

// Same is true for FX window search box, but not the comment box, for example. Also textboxes in ReaEQ and ReaComp etc are all ok.

EDIT: Still relevant though:
While you're at it though I'd also appreciate it if Ctrl + A selected all text, and also if Ctrl + Backspace properly deleted full words (instead of entering an invalid symbol ( http://puu.sh/efOuR/e42037003d.png ). Thanks!

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by Xenakios

Sorry to tell you this late, but that would have been possible for a long time already in C++ extension plugins. Of course "possible" needs to be interpreted quite broadly here...(Practically, implementing it would be so messy in a 3rd party plugin that it doesn't quite seem worth it.)

These new API functions for the envelopes are very welcome, though!

Aaaaaaaah, so it is wait for v6 for automation item disappointment again then hahaha

[Xenakios]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

Aaaaaaaah, so it is wait for v6 for automation item disappointment again hahaha

I might take a look at a C++ extension plugin solution at some point, even though I suspect it might not work out great...(The main problem is that the plugin would need to reimplement the whole envelope drawing and mouse handling stuff...It's doable but there are other problems too which would contribute to the "not work out great".)

[Xenakios]

RemoveEnvelopePoint function is needed too...

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by Xenakios

I might take a look at a C++ extension plugin solution at some point, even though I suspect it might not work out great...(The main problem is that the plugin would need to reimplement the whole envelope drawing and mouse handling stuff...)

Not really, all it has to do is some jiggery pockery trickery magicry, to take the volume enevelope output from any item, and route it to automation of any destination, as it where

Surely that would be the clever way to do it if possible ?
that way the drawing/mouse handling is all done and dusted.
Like i said, i am stupid, so after you finished laughing you can tell my why this is ridiculous haha

[SmajjL]

# FX: refresh track controls when editing FX parameters

Thank you! now i can also go R5, yehaaa!

[Xenakios]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

Not really, all it has to do is some jiggery pockery trickery magicry, to take the volume enevelope output from any item, and route it to automation of any destination, as it where

True, that could be a hacky way to achieve it. (There are certain problems with that too and I am not sure if I like dealing with those more than just implementing a completely new item type in C++...)

[schwa]

Originally Posted by swiiscompos

I still can't see the transport bar with the default theme! I tried with both 32 and 64 bits versions. OSX 10.9.9

Notation Editor: The characters are waaaaay too big, any idea how to fix that?

EDIT:
I tested the notation editor as much as possible with the above problem and I often got this error when I was drawing a note from the right to the left:

I am guessing you are on a Mac? The notation font is definitely messed up on Mac, we will get this sorted for the next build.

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by Xenakios

True, that could be a hacky way to achieve it. (There are certain problems with that too and I am not sure if I like dealing with those more than just implementing a completely new item type in C++...)

OK it's on, you gonna set up the kickstarter or shall i ?

[timothys_monster]

Congrats to the Notation Editor! Nice, nice, nice.

How friggin cool is that?


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Bug/FR:
If the focus is on Notation Editor, keystrokes for transport (e.g. Space) don't work.

[IXix]

Big things creeping in! Notation?! Wow!

While the API is getting a lot of attention. Please, please, pretty please could we have API access to the monitor FX chain? Please?

All the the new JS/ReaScript stuff looks really exciting but I've not had time to test it yet. Stupid life!

Go 5!

[timothys_monster]

+ MIDI editor: project tempo markers can be viewed and edited in a special lane
+ MIDI: note-off velocity support

You people happy now?

[Fergler]

Originally Posted by timothys_monster

+ MIDI editor: project tempo markers can be viewed and edited in a special lane
+ MIDI: note-off velocity support

You people happy now?

How did I miss that. Does this note-off velocity thing (which I admit I don't understand at all, need to google that) fix the held-on notes when bypassing synths and in some other circumstances (sometimes just random while using a synth)?

[SmajjL]

WT have made TCP and MCP identical so the colors are the same now.
And if you switch to a R4 theme, you get your tint controls back, just an observation as we speak, not sure if it was like that before.

[schwa]

Originally Posted by schwa

I am guessing you are on a Mac? The notation font is definitely messed up on Mac, we will get this sorted for the next build.

... OK, we've got this sorted. It should be fixed in the next build, but in the meantime, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can replace the score editor with this fixed version. You'll need to find REAPER.app, open the package in Finder, go to Plugins/Scripts, and replace score.lua with the attached version.

Note, this only applies to Mac, not windows; the script attached here will not work properly on Windows. The next build will work properly on both platforms.

[BenK-msx]

notation font issue here on win7 64

downloaded suggested from site that pops up but which version goes where?

i tried otf in my fonts dir to no avail but maybe i'm a dumpkopf

[Banned]

Originally Posted by timothys_monster

+ MIDI: note-off velocity support

You people happy now?

Yes, finally!!

Thanks, devs!

[musicbynumbers]

+ FX: enable parameter learn menu for rec-input, monitoring, and per-take FX

Is it, it can't be.. really?

item envelopes for fx on an item?

If so this has made my year for sound design!

[heda]

Would it make sense that selected tracks are automatically displayed in the notation editor?. Not selecting them with the triangles. If multiple tracks are selected, just display the last one selected in the set.

I hope we can add some manual text for title, author etc. And be able to print.

Be aware... A lot of bugs are coming in the notation editor. Just playing with it a bit and some weird things happening

[schwa]

Originally Posted by BenK-msx

notation font issue here on win7 64

downloaded suggested from site that pops up but which version goes where?

On W7, right-click the Bravura.otf file and select "install".

On OSX, copy the Bravura.otf file to /Library/Fonts.

We can add some explanatory text about this to the notation editor.

[musicbynumbers]

Quick question Devs.

Is it a bad idea to import my whole reaper config from 4 to a portable install of reaper 5?

Is there anything I shouldn't import?

[mim]

Originally Posted by todd_r

5.0pre4 - January 8 2015
+ API: added CountEnvelopePoints, GetEnvelopePoint, GetEnvelopePointByTime, SetEnvelopePoint, InsertEnvelopePoint, Envelope_SortPoints, Envelope_Evaluate

Since you are at API & Envelopes;
Please, Please! Add a way tu return an envelope pointer from a plugin parameter ID.
So we can add and edit envelopes that doesn't already exist easily.

This would save me litteraly DAYS of work.
To make a sound edit session ready to mix , I have to create and activate envelopes for most parameter of all plugins. I always make errors and it take me a long time.

Having script to configure sessions would make my life twice longer.

Please cockos !

[typewriter]

Originally Posted by gpunk_w

With all these enevelope API add ons, is it theoretically possible for somebody to create a new item type, that say worked for automation, so automation items ?

+1 Reason's sequencer has this and this is very cool to have a automation items prepared that can be reused in other project via drag and drop. Like FX presets just "preset items" for automation stuff.

Think of modwheel moves for changing the volume/loundness of samples and much more.

[swiiscompos]

Originally Posted by schwa

... OK, we've got this sorted. It should be fixed in the next build, but in the meantime, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can replace the score editor with this fixed version. You'll need to find REAPER.app, open the package in Finder, go to Plugins/Scripts, and replace score.lua with the attached version.

Note, this only applies to Mac, not windows; the script attached here will not work properly on Windows. The next build will work properly on both platforms.

Thanks, it fixed the problem!

[BenK-msx]

Originally Posted by schwa

On W7, right-click the Bravura.otf file and select "install".

We can add some explanatory text about this to the notation editor.

i see..

i read that in my head in a 'weary tech support guy on the phone to an old lady' type voice.

[musicbynumbers]

OK tested this and it's cool that we can now assign controllers to item effects.

I'm guess this is the first step towards putting those parameters on the items just like we have for volume, pitch, pan and mute right?

This would also be needed to get the most out of the video stuff too (probably) so I'm really hoping that's where this is going as for sound designers (and most glitch/fast edits music users) will kiss your feet for this feature!

[dukati]

When I enter notes in Notation editor, the sounds dont play while entering (but do during playback). Am I doing something wrong É

[Banned]

Originally Posted by BenK-msx

i see..

i read that in my head in a 'weary tech support guy on the phone to an old lady' type voice.

*Almost* checks out. Reverse engineering ancient notation methods certainly wears out those poor tech support guys, and many old ladies are in fact still using those ancient notation methods well into the 21st century. The thing is, none of them have figured out how to use a telephone just yet.

<ducks>

On a more serious note, I imagine this must feel like a pretty big thing for all those users who have some use for notation, which makes me very happy for all of you. Cheers!

[musicbynumbers]

Testing out "raw" reaper 5.

First thing I stumble on is default theme only has knobs for volume on TCP.

I don't mind that as I know white tie will probably do a fader one too but it reminded me again that at some point we really need support for wacom pens (or any pen) and touch inputs as right now they are erratic still.

No rush

[innuendo]

Originally Posted by timothys_monster

Congrats to the Notation Editor! Nice, nice, nice.

How friggin cool is that?

nice!

[Win Conway]

Originally Posted by Banned

On a more serious note, I imagine this must feel like a pretty big thing for all those users who have some use for notation, which makes me very happy for all of you. Cheers!

I think it is a big thing if it is done well, even though i have no use for it, however, do it wrong and it will be a never ending wantfest in FRs yet again, and seen as more Reaper unfinished hackiness, then again it has gotten this popular having that moniker

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by schwa

I am guessing you are on a Mac? The notation font is definitely messed up on Mac, we will get this sorted for the next build.

Installed as a portable 64bit install on PC and I was told I was missing the "Bravura" font upon opening the score editor.

[SmajjL]

MusicB, The fader pops up when you have dragged the TCP twice the length of the def toolbar.

[ovnis]

Please ! Automation item !

[ELP]

Does this note-off velocity thing (which I admit I don't understand at all, need to google that) fix the held-on notes when bypassing synths and in some other circumstances (sometimes just random while using a synth)?

No. It´s very easy some Software Synth´s and some Hardware,
like for example my Nord Stage 2 or Nord C2D,
transmitted and recognized the Note off velocity value.
Where Note off with Vel 127 means the shortest release and 0 the longest release time for Note off.

So for me and I know, also for many, many other user,
it´s really very important, that in near future reaper support this.

+ MIDI: note-off velocity support

Many thanks.... in a few month, when V5 will come, I will very happy...
And it is not quite forget the MIDI FR's as long as the user reminded of it. ^^
Really thanks a lot.

+ MIDI editor: project tempo markers can be viewed and edited in a special lane

MIDI: note-off velocity support
Possible to change the default value 0 in 64?
And show, like Note on Vel, in cc lane?