Old 04-18-2014, 03:30 PM   #1
metallicaguy1
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 411
Default Scuffham for metal?

Is this a good amp sim for metal? I see a lot of people say its good for other things. I downloaded it a while back for fifteen free days, but never even got the chance to use the darn thing at the time!
metallicaguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 03:34 PM   #2
lachrimae
Human being with feelings
 
lachrimae's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 791
Default

No.

TSE X50 is the best I've found so far.
lachrimae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 03:41 PM   #3
bluzkat
Human being with feelings
 
bluzkat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 6,919
Default

I'm pretty sure you could get another 'demo' if you asked S-Gear support nicely, but...

S-Gear is not good for hi-gain anything, but excels from clean to mid-gain (think 'classic' rock).

Have you checked out the plugins from Ignite amps (The Anvil):

http://www.igniteamps.com/en/audio-plug-ins

Or check out TSE for more hi-gain stuff:

http://www.tseaudio.com/home.


__________________
Peace...
bluzkat
bluzkat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:08 PM   #4
metallicaguy1
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 411
Default

Tse x50 is free, isn't it?
metallicaguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:45 PM   #5
xpander
Human being with feelings
 
xpander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Terra incognita
Posts: 7,670
Default

The older v1 version was only supported by donations. New v2 is not free.
xpander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:47 PM   #6
Gerry P
Human being with feelings
 
Gerry P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,459
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by metallicaguy1 View Post
Is this a good amp sim for metal?
I am sure you could get another 15 days...

but it has a great Clean, you could use pedals into it (real or vst)...

Even if you didn't use it exclusively for Metal, you wouldn't be sorry for buying it...it would see some use for sure...
__________________
The future ain't what it used to be. Yogi Berra
Gerry P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:49 PM   #7
alex1073
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 628
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by metallicaguy1 View Post
Tse x50 is free, isn't it?
v1.0.2 is, but it is not available to download any more.
alex1073 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:53 PM   #8
alex1073
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 628
Default

They left it behind

http://www.theserinaexperiment.net/software.html
alex1073 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:53 PM   #9
henge1
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 479
Default

Are there big differences between v1 and v2 of the tse?
__________________
Anton Evans
Website: www.villageworkscanada.com
henge1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:54 PM   #10
metallicaguy1
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 411
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by alex1073 View Post
v1.0.2 is, but it is not available to download any more.
It's not available at all anymore? Or just free?
metallicaguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 04:59 PM   #11
alex1073
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 628
Default

I found it. The link is in my last post.
alex1073 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 05:00 PM   #12
kindafishy
Human being with feelings
 
kindafishy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,025
Default

https://soundcloud.com/scuffham-amps...er-demo-tracks
kindafishy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 05:19 PM   #13
Gerry P
Human being with feelings
 
Gerry P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,459
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kindafishy View Post

...and there is THE reply to "S-Gear for Metal" posts!
__________________
The future ain't what it used to be. Yogi Berra
Gerry P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 07:38 PM   #14
metallicaguy1
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 411
Default

Stupid. I already HAVE the tse x30, duh me. I got it when it was free... however, according to the tse site, I don't have some of the addons of the paid version. I don't have the cab either
metallicaguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 08:09 PM   #15
richie43
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 9,090
Default

Scuffman is awesome for hi-gain stuff, just put a simple "tube-screamer" type vst in front of it (like people do with many real metal signal chains. Many good metal hi-gain tones do not come from just the amp. Don't let anyone convince you that S-Gear can't do metal, that's silly.
__________________
The Sounds of the Hear and Now.
richie43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2014, 09:57 PM   #16
Badmotor
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 221
Default

I recommend the Ignite Amps TSB-1 "Tyrant Screamer" pedal in front of S-Gear:
http://www.igniteamps.com/en/audio-plug-ins

Use it all the time, it sounds good and has a bit more range that most normal tube-screamer type pedals.
Badmotor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2014, 04:04 AM   #17
alex1073
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 628
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by richie43 View Post
Scuffman is awesome for hi-gain stuff, just put a simple "tube-screamer" type vst in front of it (like people do with many real metal signal chains. Many good metal hi-gain tones do not come from just the amp. Don't let anyone convince you that S-Gear can't do metal, that's silly.
+1

I like Ignite amps very much, but still like TSE 808 (and other stomp boxes better) as well as Distorque Audio stuff (very light on CPU too, if it matters).
alex1073 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2014, 05:09 AM   #18
EvilDragon
Human being with feelings
 
EvilDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Croatia
Posts: 24,790
Default

The new Wayfarer amp in S-Gear can do metal quite good. Don't forget a Tube Screamer plugin in front of it!
EvilDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2014, 01:58 PM   #19
metallicaguy1
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 411
Default

Is there a difference between the tse x 50 2.0 and the 2.0.1?
metallicaguy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2014, 09:58 PM   #20
EvilDragon
Human being with feelings
 
EvilDragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Croatia
Posts: 24,790
Default

Yes, 2.0.1 is an update with some bugfixes.
EvilDragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2014, 07:13 AM   #21
Magicbuss
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,957
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bluzkat View Post
I'm pretty sure you could get another 'demo' if you asked S-Gear support nicely, but...

S-Gear is not good for hi-gain anything, but excels from clean to mid-gain (think 'classic' rock).

Have you checked out the plugins from Ignite amps (The Anvil):

http://www.igniteamps.com/en/audio-plug-ins

Or check out TSE for more hi-gain stuff:

http://www.tseaudio.com/home.



The wayfarer does a VERY good emulation of the mesa boogie MKIII which is what Metallica used for all of their metal tones in the 80's. Its definitely NOT just for classic rock.

The key is using a good metal cab which unfortunately is not included with S-gear. You'll have to get a 3rd party cab for the best metal tone. Luckily there are TONS of great free metal cabs.
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2010...lse-responses/
Magicbuss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2014, 08:37 AM   #22
richie43
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 9,090
Default

And some amazing very inexpensive cab sims HERE.....OwnHammer rules.
__________________
The Sounds of the Hear and Now.
richie43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2014, 08:47 AM   #23
henge1
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 479
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicbuss View Post
The wayfarer does a VERY good emulation of the mesa boogie MKIII which is what Metallica used for all of their metal tones in the 80's. Its definitely NOT just for classic rock.

The key is using a good metal cab which unfortunately is not included with S-gear. You'll have to get a 3rd party cab for the best metal tone. Luckily there are TONS of great free metal cabs.
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2010...lse-responses/
Tbh I find that the impulses that come with SGear to be the best. tried some stuff from Redwirez and they didn't sound as good as the ones in S-Gear.
Which free ones from the list you supplied do you like?
__________________
Anton Evans
Website: www.villageworkscanada.com
henge1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2014, 07:37 PM   #24
Magicbuss
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,957
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by henge1 View Post
Tbh I find that the impulses that come with SGear to be the best. tried some stuff from Redwirez and they didn't sound as good as the ones in S-Gear.
Which free ones from the list you supplied do you like?
LOL. The cabs the come with S-gear ARE redwirez.

The problem with the included cabs is that they are all classic rock based cabs: basically marshall, fender and vox. You want bogner, orange, mesa, Engl, diezl, etc.

Of the commercial cabs i think the ownhammer cabs sound the best but Redwire and recabinet are both very good.

For free the Gods cab is a great Mesa 4x12 with multiple mics to choose from. Also the Catharsis cab pack is also good. Guitar hack isn't bad either.

The 7 deadly sins cab pack has almost every free cab in one download

http://getwapi.com/down/view/zip/JVB...ds_Cab_14.html
http://metalhomerecording.com/best-free-guitar-cab-ir/
http://www.guitarampmodeling.com/vie...hp?f=32&t=2631
http://www.guitarampmodeling.com/vie...p?f=63&t=20368
Magicbuss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2014, 11:40 PM   #25
Rogie
Human being with feelings
 
Rogie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 138
Default

I'm running my guitar signal into a Boss SD-1 (SimulAnalog)- VST,into a Marshall Guv'nor (AXP) - VST,...into Guitar Rig 5 ...where I use just a Marshall Plexi and nothing else.....this then goes into NadIR.....and I have a full complement of IRs that I use....

this is my basic rig,and this is also the base FX setup that I put into my "main" guitar track.......this track gets sent to an FX bus,.....and I also have it sent to 4 other tracks,each of these 4 tracks is running NadIR with various IRs...and I have them paired and panned left and right.
I haven't been using the 4 extra tracks much though,...as I am getting great tones by just mixing the main guitar track and the FX bus track.

These tracks are grouped,and I have a track that I use as a Master fader.
Rogie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2014, 03:37 AM   #26
Devotio
Human being with feelings
 
Devotio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Victoria, Australia
Posts: 107
Default

Revalver has some great things and amplitube metal is really nice to. I use guitar rig 5 myself
__________________
https://soundcloud.com/devotio My soundcloud with heaps of music!
http://rhysdevotio.wix.com/devotio# Official website for my music
https://www.facebook.com/devotiomusic My official facebook group
Devotio is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.