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08-25-2010, 01:45 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Commit?
What does "Commit" mean in the quantize dialog? Don't get it. All I see is that it is making the "Bypass" becoming checked!? On a second press it does nothing at all?
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08-25-2010, 02:18 AM
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As I understand it, it writes the quantization destructively, so "unquantize events" would revert to this events-placement, instead of the original recorded/imported/inserted placement (that would be why bypass becomes checked, as this is the new "unquantized").
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08-25-2010, 05:26 AM
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Administrator
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Gofer's description is right. It's the same thing that happens when you run the action "freeze quantization", but that description is not clear either, because you can still quantize more.
Suggestions for better names for the button and the action would be appreciated!
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08-25-2010, 05:53 AM
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#4
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What's wrong with "Apply"?
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08-25-2010, 07:04 AM
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"Immortalize"
"Set In Stone"
"No Going Back"
"Are You Really, Really Sure?"
"Undoable Do"
or just:
"Permanent"
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08-25-2010, 07:08 AM
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#6
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Also shouldn't this button become grayed out in certain situations?
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08-25-2010, 07:08 AM
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I like "undoable do".
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08-25-2010, 07:15 AM
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I wanted to be serious and professorial but I can't...help...myself.
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08-25-2010, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
I like "undoable do".
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"Undoable Apply"?
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08-25-2010, 07:33 AM
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But one could read that as
Un-doable or Undo-able
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08-25-2010, 07:36 AM
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+1 for "Immortalize"
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08-25-2010, 07:54 AM
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"Permanent" is not humorous but it does state the facts.
"Undoable do" is my next choice because it adds a smile to the process.
"Immortalize" works too - but it may confuse some people.
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08-25-2010, 08:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dstruct
But one could read that as
Un-doable or Undo-able
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Undoable is a proper English word - without the hyphen, although I would expect the hyphen too.
NOTE:
Undoable does also suggest that you can "undo" the action as well, so it may not be a proper use for it. Although it is entertaining, I can also see it being read as
"Can I undo this - is it undoable?".
So it's a problem. "Permanent" isn't.
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09-01-2010, 07:17 AM
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Hey guys,how about "print"
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09-01-2010, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by polysoniq
Hey guys,how about "print"
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Nah. No printers are going to be used!
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09-01-2010, 08:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
What's wrong with "Apply"?
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Apply seems fine.
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09-01-2010, 09:06 AM
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Commit seems like the best choice to me still :/ You can "apply" quantization without freezing it like that, whereas "committing" to the quantization seems to very clearly indicate that it is going to, well, commit the quantization...
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09-01-2010, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kundalinguist
"Immortalize"
"Set In Stone"
"No Going Back"
"Are You Really, Really Sure?"
"Undoable Do"
or just:
"Permanent"
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I think it should 4 page agreement attached that specifically states the action that you are taking is irreversible along with the option to make yahoo your home page and adding the ask.com toolbar. We should also consider an ILOK for that action as well. That should simplify it!
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09-01-2010, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicroom
I think it should 4 page agreement attached that specifically states the action that you are taking is irreversible along with the option to make yahoo your home page and adding the ask.com toolbar.
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...followed by a popup ""This button is not available in your country".
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09-01-2010, 09:53 AM
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I concur that the legal agreement is a valid if not necessary option. It saves harmless those parties from litigation which may result of a user's falsely committing to said MIDI quantize actions which heretofore are irreversible. Man.
Quote:
Originally Posted by musicroom
I think it should 4 page agreement attached...
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09-01-2010, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie
...followed by a popup ""This button is not available in your country".
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I love that one.
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09-01-2010, 10:21 AM
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"I do"
After a popup that asks you if you'll take this quantization in sickness and in health etc etc...
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09-01-2010, 10:34 AM
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haha...That's funny....
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09-01-2010, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
I like "undoable do".
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loud, prolonged applause... which, of course, is better than a lame lol.
Presumably it is sponsored by Betty Boops?
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09-01-2010, 02:14 PM
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undoable do?
To dream the impossible dream
To do the undoable do
To reflect Reflections monthly cryout post
To reap where only llamas dare go......
Sorry, had a stiff drink just before
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09-01-2010, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kundalinguist
I love that one.
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That was great!
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09-06-2010, 11:30 AM
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I found this initially confusing as well.
Suggestions:
1) When a user selects commit, bring up a msgbox saying something like "This action cannot be undone, are you sure?" with a checkbox to not show the dialog again.
I have a feeling many new users are going to confuse commit with 'apply' and permanently quantize when they don't want to and this would help.
2) New action: 'Commit quantize to item as new take'. That way its easy to have the best of both world's.
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09-06-2010, 12:12 PM
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I've got it! How about...
"Afghanistan"?
(permanently committed)
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09-06-2010, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kundalinguist
I've got it! How about...
"Afghanistan"?
(permanently committed)
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That is horribly good!
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09-06-2010, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicroom
I think it should 4 page agreement attached that specifically states the action that you are taking is irreversible along with the option to make yahoo your home page and adding the ask.com toolbar. We should also consider an ILOK for that action as well. That should simplify it!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ollie
...followed by a popup ""This button is not available in your country".
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It should be combined with a reboot function that writes onto the boot sectors, to make the toolbar real permanent.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PitchSlap
2) New action: 'Commit quantize to item as new take'. That way its easy to have the best of both world's.
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This is what I'd prefer.
-Data
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09-06-2010, 03:34 PM
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+1 commit to new take
That's how I work anyway. Might as well hard code it as an action.
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12-09-2011, 04:20 AM
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Great thread. thank you guys. was wondering what commit was about and knew I'd find it here.
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12-09-2011, 07:19 AM
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How about "Too bad"
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12-09-2011, 09:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vocalid
To dream the impossible dream
To do the undoable do
To reflect Reflections monthly cryout post
To reap where only llamas dare go......
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and to continue....
This is my Theme
My Impossible Theme...
sry.. carry on Commit is fine by me
guido
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12-09-2011, 09:52 AM
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... "Make It So"
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12-09-2011, 10:11 AM
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Commit detracts from expected windows dialog behavior. It's just another thing that will be questioned by a new user. The button should be labelled Apply. The windows users will of course know how that button is supposed to work in regard to it being enabled or disabled so I'll not ramble on about that as well.
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12-09-2011, 12:01 PM
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"Invert the tachyon field polarity"?
Or more seriously
"Destructive Apply"?
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12-09-2011, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnWC
... "Make It So"
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Obviously this one.
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12-09-2011, 04:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamWathan
Commit seems like the best choice to me still :/ You can "apply" quantization without freezing it like that, whereas "committing" to the quantization seems to very clearly indicate that it is going to, well, commit the quantization...
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+1.
It is also a pretty generally accepted abbreviation for "Are you sure? Like really, really sure?" in the greater world of software, etc.
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12-09-2011, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivansc
+1.
It is also a pretty generally accepted abbreviation for "Are you sure? Like really, really sure?" in the greater world of software, etc.
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But not on a button it's not. Not in windows anyway. I can't speak for the greater world of software.
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