Old 04-28-2012, 10:13 AM   #1
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looking for a terrible, discordant, thrash lead guitar for the break in this song:

Sanctified Fonk
http://www.box.com/s/901f9bdf1e4e44d8f691
(this is the original non-lead version)

any takers welcome!

everything so far is either me, midi, or programmed.

I wasn't really expecting anything, but Strat stepped in to save the day!

Here's Stratman's additions.
http://www.box.com/s/b990b8e7ef63913d30d7

he sent me two different versions, but i really like them both and couldn't see leaving either out, so i sorta combined them. appreciate you Strat!

now that they're present, i'd like to know how well i mixed the guitars in. do they feel like they "belong" (in the mix), or like someone just threw some guitars over a completely different backing?
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:37 AM   #2
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I think it fits very well imho
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Old 04-29-2012, 11:09 AM   #3
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Well it's a great song, which I would expect from you.

I think you've made the guitar sit as well as I would have wanted.

Having been involved in creating it, I can't be completely objective about whether it benefits from a discordant guitar break (or my take on discordant guitar break). It was certainly fun doing it. I tried to make it get increasingly intense, including 'intentionally' starting to play ahead of the beat towards the end to increase the tension. It's almost a relief when it stops . Maybe I went a bit OTT.

It would be good to get some views on it. I was going for a sort of Adrian Belew meets Vernon Reid approach. This was a bit of an experiment for me. Be as critical of the guitar as you like.

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... I tried to make it get increasingly intense, including 'intentionally' starting to play ahead of the beat towards the end to increase the tension. It's almost a relief when it stops .

Pete
that's precisely the effect i wanted. you delivered perfectly. that's why i couldn't see throwing either part out completely.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:38 PM   #5
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Default Wow...I was really happy about my new song till I heard this

Very nice, very original....I likes it a lot.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:34 AM   #6
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Pro stuff as usual, Sam. That ghostly almost out of key synth thing caught my attention. Gives a certain spice to the song.

I'm an old fan of Belew, back from his work with Talking Heads. Stratman, you have great chops, and the solo fitted perfectly, imo.

Maybe the drums could step up a bit more during the solo. Bang about a little, along with the guitar.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:32 PM   #7
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Sammy, you already know how much I dig this track, but I want to chime in to say Pete, you completely nailed this and brought such a cool contrasting vibe to the song. It looks like it was just what Sammy was hoping for, and I gotta tell you that you executed it perfectly.

Very, very cool, all around.
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Sorry, I'm very late to this

Wow! Love it. Fantastic mix. Guitar is demented and wonderful.

I love with your chord structures, Sammy, how you set up an expectation of a particular chord progression and then subtly undermine that by doing something different. It's brilliant because it's both hooky but at the same time really original.

And the guitar just explodes! I am such a fan of Pete's playing.

Great work both.
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Tasty.
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Pro stuff as usual, Sam. That ghostly almost out of key synth thing caught my attention. Gives a certain spice to the song.

I'm an old fan of Belew, back from his work with Talking Heads. Stratman, you have great chops, and the solo fitted perfectly, imo.

Maybe the drums could step up a bit more during the solo. Bang about a little, along with the guitar.
dat's dat love for experimentation even within the conventional.
thanks man.
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Sammy, you already know how much I dig this track, but I want to chime in to say Pete, you completely nailed this and brought such a cool contrasting vibe to the song. It looks like it was just what Sammy was hoping for, and I gotta tell you that you executed it perfectly.

Very, very cool, all around.
Pete just opened the song up completely.

Strat, if you're reading this, i've now had a taste and i'm hooked. you guitar dealers are really sly with your drugs.
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Sorry, I'm very late to this

Wow! Love it. Fantastic mix. Guitar is demented and wonderful.

I love with your chord structures, Sammy, how you set up an expectation of a particular chord progression and then subtly undermine that by doing something different. It's brilliant because it's both hooky but at the same time really original.

And the guitar just explodes! I am such a fan of Pete's playing.

Great work both.
...but you made it and i was glad to see you. would love to do some backup harmonies on one of yours one of these days.
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Tasty.
sometimes i over-season a lot, but i tried to spice this one just right for the palette. thx!
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Sammy

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Really loved this -- like the beats, the dissonance, harmonies and big congrats to Pete for some serious shreddies.

Great job guys --- nice recording and production too.
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...but you made it and i was glad to see you. would love to do some backup harmonies on one of yours one of these days.
. . . be still my beating heart! Definitely man but I'll have to up my game some.
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Sammy

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Really loved this -- like the beats, the dissonance, harmonies and big congrats to Pete for some serious shreddies.

Great job guys --- nice recording and production too.
thanks SR. i love Pete's tension build up in this also.
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Fuck. You guys are awesome!

Great song, great sound. Congrats on the lead.
And there's something about that cracking snare. I'm sure it's easy but buggered if I can do it.
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Fuck. You guys are awesome!

Great song, great sound. Congrats on the lead.
And there's something about that cracking snare. I'm sure it's easy but buggered if I can do it.
hey man. it's Addictive Drums with a little inboard effects tuning on the snare. didn't have to do much of anything in Reaper except to fit it into the mix as a whole.
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hey man. it's Addictive Drums with a little inboard effects tuning on the snare. didn't have to do much of anything in Reaper except to fit it into the mix as a whole.
Like I said, I know it's easy...can't seem to figure out why I'm not happy with what I get.
I use AD too
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Dig it!

Nice job Pete!
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