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09-17-2014, 12:34 PM
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v4.73 is up!
Version 4.73 Changelog
Now with Elastique v3!
Timestretch:
- added the fantastique elastique v3 pitch shift/timestretch engine
- fixes to extreme stretch logic
Actions:
- fixed 'FX: Set MIDI learn for last touched FX parameter' when triggered from MIDI controllers .
- improved undo for duplicate item actions .
Items:
- fixed 'Duplicate items' misbehaviour with ripple editing .
- fixed item edge locking .
Recording:
- optimized disk writing buffers
- changed OSX default write mode to unbuffered, reduced buffer size
AU: fixed PDC failures when track channel counts change
Menu bar: fixed mangling of UTF-8 characters when truncating action strings .
ReaControlMIDI: support all 14 bit resolution CC pairs
ReaScript: load several scripts in one go
ReaVerb: improved handling of certain low-level mono signals .
Render Region Matrix: fixed unselected region rendering .
Stretch markers: auto-seek when editing stretch markers and auto-seek-on-edit is set in prefs
Track FX envelopes: fixed inserted points despite automation lane not armed .
Undo: fixed edit cursor being sometimes moved despite preferences
VST: support for effCanBeAutomated to allow plug-ins to not show hidden parameters
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09-17-2014, 12:46 PM
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from the Zplane site:
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What’s new in V3
• Highly improved transient preservation engine working even at high stretch ra-
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• Completely redesigned Pro algorithm
• infiniStretch technology to allow arbitrary high stretch ratios up to infinity
• Hold function to do infinity stretching
• better memory footprint
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"highly improved..", "completely redesigned.."
I just came
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09-17-2014, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by realitybytez
I just came
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that behaviour of yours is sooooo inappropriate ...
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09-17-2014, 02:00 PM
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Changes to User Guide 4.73
The REAPER 4.73 update mainly deals with performance improvements and bug fixes. As far as features is concerned, the main changes to the User Guide revolve around Elastique 3.
Grab a copy here: http://www.cockos.com/reaper/userguide.php
Last edited by nicholas; 09-17-2014 at 02:21 PM.
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09-17-2014, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholas
The REAPER 4.73 update mainly deals with performance improvements and bug fixes. As far as features is concerned, the main change to the User Guide revolve around Elastique 3.
Grab a copy here: http://www.cockos.com/reaper/userguide.php
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Thanks Nicholas! Great work, as always!!
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09-17-2014, 02:16 PM
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Curious what's behind changing the default write mode to unbuffered.
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09-17-2014, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by serr
Curious what's behind changing the default write mode to unbuffered.
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When recording at high sample rates with high track counts, the OSX disk buffering layer becomes a bottleneck that prevents everything from getting to disk in time.
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09-17-2014, 05:28 PM
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Quote:
We have put much effort into this release making even better what has been performing very well already.
Version 3 has a highly improved transient processing even at high stretch ratios. In addition to this the memory usage has been optimized resulting in a smaller memory footprint. The limitation in stretch ratios has been eliminated - choose the ratios you like, up to infinity! The new HOLD function makes use of the infinity stretch ratio opening up new creative ways to use time-stretching.
élastique v3 (Pro and efficient) can be licensed as a Software Development Kit (SDK). For further information please contact us via email.
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This sounds pretty amazing, I might be misunderstanding, but what it seems to be saying, is that once upon a time there a limit for how many slices per, I guess bits, or time or whatever, it was possible to chop sound up, in order to stretch it, which produced artifacts if you stretched too much, and now you could elect to have it choose infinite slices, which enables you essentially stretch out one portion of sound indefinitely? That's pretty damn intense.
I'm wondering though, does the user have the choice to select how many slices it takes? Or, is it set on infinity always, or toned down a bit, due to how it affects resources or something like that? It sounds like they are saying it is something that is configurable, which seems to me something the devs would configure, rather than us.
What does,
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Stretch markers: auto-seek when editing stretch markers and auto-seek-on-edit is set in prefs
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mean exactly? Does it mean added actions to bind "next/previous stretch marker"? Or something different? (we may have had that already, not sure about that one)
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09-17-2014, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sound asleep
What does,
mean exactly? Does it mean added actions to bind "next/previous stretch marker"? Or something different? (we may have had that already, not sure about that one)
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That means that if you set the preferences option to auto-seek when editing item edges/etc, that if you edit a stretch marker with the mouse, playback will seek so you can hear the edit you just made.
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09-17-2014, 09:40 PM
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The Windows 32-bit is not downloading for me!
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09-17-2014, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
That means that if you set the preferences option to auto-seek when editing item edges/etc, that if you edit a stretch marker with the mouse, playback will seek so you can hear the edit you just made.
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well that sounds pretty awesome. I'm gonna try that out for sure.
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09-18-2014, 02:51 AM
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VST: support for effCanBeAutomated to allow plug-ins to not show hidden parameters
is this a step back. i use many parameters in vst's. now i can't (some) use this feature if i unlucky ??
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09-18-2014, 03:09 AM
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It's not a step back. It depends on the plugin if it uses that functionality.
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09-18-2014, 03:25 AM
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for me it is a step back because i use many parameters in vst's.i don't if i use hidden parameters or not. so, if i update it could be that i can't use many vst parameter animation any more !?
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09-18-2014, 03:34 AM
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I don't think you understand what the function does.
http://www.asseca.org/vst-24-specs/e...Automated.html
You're not losing any of the automatable parameters at all - they are all still listed in the Envelope window.
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09-18-2014, 03:54 AM
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yes. i don't lose "automatable parameters" but i automate paramters wich could "Now" be hidden if the author of the vst declared it to be hidden
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09-18-2014, 04:08 AM
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Find me plugins which actually do that! I think you don't have to concern about anything.
I would think there's a good reason for hiding SOME parameters that are not supposed to be tweaked by the user (they'd be used only for development purposes or testing). No harm done here.
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09-18-2014, 04:21 AM
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some of the uhe's !
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09-18-2014, 04:28 AM
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AFAIK they're not hiding anything really. Besides there's plenty of parameters to be automated in their plugins, so I don't know why you worry that much. Anything that's usable in any way can be automated in all u-he plugins.
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09-18-2014, 05:17 AM
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maybe you are right but why implementing this in reaper now ?
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09-18-2014, 05:59 AM
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Why not ask Justin that question?
www.askjf.com
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09-18-2014, 06:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
When recording at high sample rates with high track counts, the OSX disk buffering layer becomes a bottleneck that prevents everything from getting to disk in time.
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Alright. Thanks for all the hard work!
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09-18-2014, 07:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
That means that if you set the preferences option to auto-seek when editing item edges/etc, that if you edit a stretch marker with the mouse, playback will seek so you can hear the edit you just made.
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Where is this in Prefs please?
Mouse modifiers? Just been chasing my tail looking for this...
Anybody, rather than interrupt The Man from more important stuff
Many thanks...
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09-18-2014, 07:32 AM
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I think it just works using the preef in "seeking". Forgot it's name but it's something like "seeking on item edit".
I think what it does now is if you edit a warp marker it will jump the play cursor back on release of the warp marker to the time you have put in the seek options. This then allows you to keep previewing the edits you have made without having to rewind or press stop/start again. It just rewinds on every edit I use it a lot and it's super useful.
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Originally Posted by planetnine
Where is this in Prefs please?
Mouse modifiers? Just been chasing my tail looking for this...
Anybody, rather than interrupt The Man from more important stuff
Many thanks...
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09-18-2014, 07:52 AM
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I've never had a crash in Reaper (not beta versions) until now.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: reaper.exe
Application Version: 4.7.3.0
Application Timestamp: 5419a2ec
Fault Module Name: StackHash_9008
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.18247
Fault Module Timestamp: 521eaf24
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 00000000000c4102
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
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09-18-2014, 08:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asjf.com
Note: please do not ask questions about REAPER features, bugs or scheduling, use the forums instead.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahs
maybe you are right but why implementing this in reaper now ?
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It was implemented to improve plug-in compatibility, to e.g. avoid unexpected behavior when querying the plug-in for automatable parameters. Every other host uses this method, too.
No parameters that were intended to be automated will be lost and it's quite unlikely that anyone automated an actually working parameter that's now "hidden" - whatever you saw there before was very likely only an empty placeholder for future versions of the plug-in.
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09-18-2014, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heda
I've never had a crash in Reaper (not beta versions) until now.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: reaper.exe
Application Version: 4.7.3.0
Application Timestamp: 5419a2ec
Fault Module Name: StackHash_9008
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.18247
Fault Module Timestamp: 521eaf24
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: 00000000000c4102
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
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It would be best if you create your own troubleshooting thread for that and find out what plug-in might be causing this (by exclusion), mention under which circumstances you get the crash etc...
Here are some threads that could give you an idea of what info might be needed to sort that out:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=0024585...ash&gsc.page=1
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09-18-2014, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musicbynumbers
I think it just works using the preef in "seeking". Forgot it's name but it's something like "seeking on item edit".
I think what it does now is if you edit a warp marker it will jump the play cursor back on release of the warp marker to the time you have put in the seek options. This then allows you to keep previewing the edits you have made without having to rewind or press stop/start again. It just rewinds on every edit I use it a lot and it's super useful.
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"Seek playback on item move/size/fade adjustment, preroll: " in "Audio/Seeking", I should have guessed.
Thanks for that MBN, I was using the wrong terms in the filter, we need that thesaurus
Yes, agreed, it is very useful when fixing up while playing through, and I think the stretch marker addition will be too -it's little things like this that improve workflow sometimes. Thanks again...
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09-18-2014, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Items:
- fixed item edge locking
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Thanks
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09-18-2014, 12:14 PM
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Dear God, we're up to 43.3 MB in size now?!?!
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09-18-2014, 04:38 PM
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Changing presets in Reaverb is crashing reaper for me...
Edit:I think the problem was because I had ZL and LL both enabled while changing presets...idk if your supposed to have both enabled at once but I remember enabling both because Reaverb had a popping issue that seemed to be alleviated with both enabled. The popping issue does seem to be fixed now without it...
Last edited by Doc Shay; 09-18-2014 at 04:53 PM.
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09-19-2014, 12:04 AM
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Win 7/8 Multi-Touch Support Please
ARA too! waiting for years for these two...
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09-20-2014, 12:26 AM
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For 4.74, could you please fix this bug introduced in 4.71/4.72 (and still present in 4.73)? 4.7 does not suffer from this.
Thank you!
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10-18-2014, 05:45 AM
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Stretch makers .... so gooooooood
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10-19-2014, 07:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amagalma
For 4.74, could you please fix this bug introduced in 4.71/4.72 (and still present in 4.73)? 4.7 does not suffer from this.
Thank you!
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Fixed in 4.731, right?
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10-21-2014, 11:30 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Yamaha O1v2 mixer used with Reaper
Greetings to all! I am new to Reaper and this forum and would appreciate any information about using my Yamaha O1v2 mixer to run faders pan ect. I have been recording for many years but have always been able grab a knob, I am 60 and probably set in my ways but I own the mixer and would like to use the mic preamps for tracking as well. I did not see a setting for this mixer but found one for the O1x. Any advice would be appreciated very much as I have searched youtube and this site with no luck. So far I love Reaper and will use a mouse if I have to, it is a great bargain.
Thanks, Bob
By the way how do I put a picture on my posts.
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