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03-17-2017, 01:07 PM
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Human being with feelings
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What should be the next big Reaper think ?
after notation and AI enveloppe features, what could be the next big think in Repear ?
I vote for midi CC line (instead of bars) and a midi transform tool.
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03-17-2017, 01:09 PM
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Obviously it'll be articulation management.
Continuous lines for CCs are probably never gonna happen.
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03-17-2017, 01:52 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Articulation.
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03-17-2017, 03:13 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Articulation is obviously rather close to being released. (Killing CuBase for Midi workers)
I suppose one of the next not-yet-started features might be ARA, as the request and obvious benefit is striking. (Killing Cubase for sound engineers with the help of Melodyne)
(Even though my personal wish would be realtime and then remote Subprojects, which would make a great difference, even if not that obviously. (Killing any other DAW) )
-Michael
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03-17-2017, 04:17 PM
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Human being with feelings
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refining TAKES so they look purdy !!
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03-17-2017, 04:19 PM
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Rendering the entire user interface in 3D so the track view looks like you're flying through a digital city, like what Hollywood thinks computer hackers do.
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03-17-2017, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
Continuous lines for CCs are probably never gonna happen.
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Why ?
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03-17-2017, 06:15 PM
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Human being with feelings
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Continuous CC would be really nice, as would better articulation management.
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03-17-2017, 06:16 PM
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#9
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Human being with feelings
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Official Linux version.
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03-17-2017, 11:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Raym
Official Linux version.
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Of course including the ability to run e.g. Kontakt and all it's commercially licensed Sample libraries...
Would be indeed a Killer-Feature, but unfortunately by far too hard to do to be "the next big thing".
Of course Cockos will not stop with Desktop Linux but go on to develop "Reaper Linux for Android/ARM" and "Reaper for iOS" (an ARM processor and a Unix based OS, too), as well
Great future to come ! Reaper Rocks !!
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 03-18-2017 at 12:03 AM.
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03-17-2017, 11:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lorbakounet
Why ?
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Because there aren't continuous in real world.
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03-18-2017, 12:09 AM
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I don't know if this is a "big thing", as it seems to be rather simple to do:
Include ReaPack as "native" feature (always showing "get extensions" as the first entry in the "extensions" menu, similar to the "Tools"->"add-ons" menu in Firefox).
This would be helpful for users (obviously), Reaper devs and the helpful supporting crowd in the forums (not needing to bother with answering feature requests that can be handled that way and pointing to not easily findable add-ons), and for extension/script creators (providing a decent way of deploying their great work).
On top of this, a context help feature (e.g. for JSFXes) and/or appropriate entries in the Help menu could show the ReaScript provided documentation text.
-Michael
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03-18-2017, 12:20 AM
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Custom Actions in Walter.
Its gonna happen.
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03-18-2017, 12:42 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Adding guitar tablature to the notation window.
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03-18-2017, 04:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mpl
Because there aren't continuous in real world.
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Neither is an audio cd, but it gets converted to an analog signal to make music. Continuous curves are more intuitive for some of us.
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03-18-2017, 05:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergler
Continuous CC would be really nice, as would better articulation management.
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Continuous CC would be very nice, of course, but I think Evildragon is right, it won't probably happen.
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03-18-2017, 05:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagalume
Continuous CC would be very nice, of course, but I think Evildragon is right, it won't probably happen.
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Why,
Reaper is the only DAW whith no continuous CC, it makes it so easier to manage CC datas !
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03-18-2017, 05:56 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Include ReaPack as "native" feature (always showing "get extensions" as the first entry in the "extensions" menu, similar to the "Tools"->"add-ons" menu in Firefox).
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Reaper can't contain 3rd developers' extensions, even they're free.
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03-18-2017, 06:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokasenna
Rendering the entire user interface in 3D so the track view looks like you're flying through a digital city, like what Hollywood thinks computer hackers do.
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Already kinda exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-RCzeJQazA
(Abandonware sadly, as it seems).
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03-18-2017, 06:37 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dupont
Why,
Reaper is the only DAW whith no continuous CC, it makes it so easier to manage CC datas !
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Because I haven't seen any interest on this matter ... if you want I can gladly give a ++++1 ... but I don't think "they" will invest time on this. I am just being honest.
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03-18-2017, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
Reaper can't contain 3rd developers' extensions, even they're free.
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Sorry I don't know what you mean by "contain" and "3rd party".
Of course cockos would need to work out the conditions with cfillion.
For a start ReaPack could just be in the distribution and be automatically installed (similar to the Video extension). Maybe the installer could allow for omitting it if the user does not want it.
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 03-18-2017 at 06:57 AM.
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03-18-2017, 07:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
Reaper can't contain 3rd developers' extensions, even they're free.
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Of course it can, if that is arranged with the 3rd party developer and so on...
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03-18-2017, 07:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Sorry I don't know what you mean by "contain" and "3rd party".
Of course cocos would need to work out the conditions with cfillion.
-Michael
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The best option is just to put a link to it on the official site.
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03-18-2017, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nofish
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Yeah-this^ would be a kool addition-bringing proper synthesis and modulation to reaper natively.
Having at least 1 rea lly decent contained synth generator/fx unit might be a selling point.
Might go hand-in-hand with the lbx stripper?
The dev may be happy to be part of a bright team.
Having midi envelopes like audio items has right now-seems perfectly logical <here>.
There's also offline web audio api's that could be taken advantage of,along with other small devs like this opengl modder> Vovoid Media Technologies > http://www.vsxu.com/development/compiling-from-source
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03-21-2017, 12:44 AM
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- Real (and natively integrated) non-midi item one-click groove quantization management like link below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NDm8cT45Uw
- better take comping (a la Logic pro but even better can be done)
- native track versioning management (thus avoiding hidden tracks, etc)
- (not-a-big-thing) visual indication of track that have been partially or entirely frozen
g
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03-21-2017, 03:42 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gianfini
- Real (and natively integrated) non-midi item one-click groove quantization management like link below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NDm8cT45Uw
- better take comping (a la Logic pro but even better can be done)
- native track versioning management (thus avoiding hidden tracks, etc)
- (not-a-big-thing) visual indication of track that have been partially or entirely frozen
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Yes I agree.
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03-21-2017, 05:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
Articulation is obviously rather close to being released. (Killing CuBase for Midi workers)
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Articulation management will be great, but for most working with midi in Cubase, the final nail in the coffin will have to be better CC management. Cubase is way ahead in this area but with a little CC love, Reaper could be too.
Two relatively simple additions could fix this:
1. Render CCs not as bars but as connected points
2. A graphic overlay that encloses selected CCs and has drag handles in the top, corners and sides. These handles could have default functions (compress, expand, tilt, scale), but for true Reaper awesomeness, they should be assignable by mouse modifier to custom scripts so you can make them do anything.
What a glorious day that would be
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03-21-2017, 07:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzar
1. Render CCs not as bars but as connected points
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IMHO a silly idea.
Of course a target device will not "jump" its internal parameter setting when a CC arrives, but do some kind of smoothing. But the way this smoothing is done is completely up to that device. A curve of connected points is nothing but a dangerous fake.
Last edited by mschnell; 03-21-2017 at 02:58 PM.
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03-21-2017, 09:52 AM
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Petit manitou
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A ReaSamplomatic5K more POWERFUL !
- Hold pedal
- Mute group
- Toggle option for loops with a pad controler (start/stop-start/stop to the next time/mesure)
- Options for layers velocity (the layers values)
- Aftertouch for stop the sample (eDrum cymbals) personnaly special request
- Ability to directly record the sample, on the fly, into reasamplomatic. A record mode in short. With control for play in loop after end of the record, it could be a sort of looper.
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03-21-2017, 10:43 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Improve Groove like ableton and the ability to drag any thing to media explorer
like ableton does
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03-21-2017, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sjebrane
the ability to drag any thing to media explorer
like ableton does
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It exists already. Drag the item you need, then hold Ctrl+alt(on Windows) and drag in Media explorer.
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03-21-2017, 02:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker
It exists already. Drag the item you need, then hold Ctrl+alt(on Windows) and drag in Media explorer.
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i know this feature i already use it but i doesnt work u have to switch to winows media explorer and than drag the item i dont know if it is a bug or what but thats what happen with me and i wich i could drag a track i mean the whole track or group into media explorer
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03-21-2017, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzar
1. Render CCs not as bars but as connected points
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this can be (partially) achieved by having a curve drawing tool overlaid on the CC bars. For those who prefer thinking in terms of curves, they can manipulate the curve, and the (still visible) bars change accordingly. A solution like this gets rid of the objection that the data is not continuous but allows for thinking and manipulating in terms of curves. And of course if you did not want curves at all then you turn that overlay off
Last edited by woggle; 03-21-2017 at 03:55 PM.
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03-22-2017, 01:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
IMHO a silly idea.
Of course a target device will not "jump" its internal parameter setting when a CC arrives, but do some kind of smoothing. But the way this smoothing is done is completely up to that device. A curve of connected points is nothing but a dangerous fake.
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That is exactly what other DAWs are doing. But perhaps I chose the wrong words. I meant points that are connected graphically but stepwise - not linear. I agree that a graphical representation that gives the impression of interpolation / smoothing would be a mistake.
In the end the main thing is that Reaper's wonky CC bars are ill suited for finer CC curve work.
Quote:
Originally Posted by woggle
this can be (partially) achieved by having a curve drawing tool overlaid on the CC bars. For those who prefer thinking in terms of curves, they can manipulate the curve, and the (still visible) bars change accordingly. A solution like this gets rid of the objection that the data is not continuous but allows for thinking and manipulating in terms of curves. And of course if you did not want curves at all then you turn that overlay off
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Nice idea, but I still think the bars themselves will have to go. They are ok (still a bit wide) for velocity, but for CCs they should at the very least be narrower.
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03-22-2017, 01:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzar
That is exactly what other DAWs are doing. But perhaps I chose the wrong words. I meant points that are connected graphically but stepwise - not linear. I agree that a graphical representation that gives the impression of interpolation / smoothing would be a mistake.
In the end the main thing is that Reaper's wonky CC bars are ill suited for finer CC curve work.
Nice idea, but I still think the bars themselves will have to go. They are ok (still a bit wide) for velocity, but for CCs they should at the very least be narrower.
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I would prefer lines over bars - it is not as if we are plotting histograms in excel
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03-22-2017, 11:37 AM
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I hope the the next Big Thing is to fix each and every bug in the previous Big Things!
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03-22-2017, 11:51 AM
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Midi logical editor tool.
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03-22-2017, 11:58 AM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teniente powell
Midi logical editor tool.
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Everything sounds like "logical editor" is possible/implemented with ReaScript.
Quote:
Originally Posted by juliansader
I hope the the next Big Thing is to fix each and every bug in the previous Big Things!
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Yep, I read the forums and very sad to see people find new bugs every day. Although my experience with REAPER is way less buggy (I don`t know why, my projects are pretty complex).
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03-22-2017, 12:14 PM
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#39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzar
points that are connected graphically but stepwise
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I don't disagree to this variant.
-Michael
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03-22-2017, 01:02 PM
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#40
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What JUlian said.
Boring, not much fun, but essential IMO.
And after that A DECENT arrange window with individual bars on individual tracks shown as blocks that can be copied/pasted/cut etc to form a full arrangement in SECONDS!!!!!!!
I was doing this in Bars n Pipes Pro in the early 1990s why cant we do it NOW?
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