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Old 12-01-2010, 11:30 AM   #1
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Default >> v4: Prerelease/Beta overview

REAPER 4.0 is now in the alpha/beta stage. Anyone who is interested can download the latest prerelease version of REAPER 4.0 from here: http://www.landoleet.org/ Please respect the rules listed at the top of the download page.

Added for emphasis: Prerelease software should be expected to have bugs. The purpose of a public alpha/beta/RC process is to help identify bugs in a real-world context. The software is not an advance copy of REAPER 4! Prerelease builds will contain experiments, tests, and lots of new code. If you come across a bug, please report it along with a recipe to reproduce.

On Windows, the prerelease installer includes a checkbox for “portable install.” If you check the box, and install the prerelease version into its own directory, then all user preferences and settings will be kept separate from your existing REAPER 3.x settings. On Mac, you can create a portable install by dragging REAPER.app from the installer DMG to its own folder, and creating a new, empty file in that folder named “reaper.ini”.

Features will be added and changed often throughout the prerelease stage, and prerelease builds may have buggy or unexpected behavior. The purpose of the prerelease stage is to get as much user feedback as possible, in order to guide the development of new features, and identify bugs. The prerelease stage is the middle of the development process, not the end of it.

To try to organize user feedback, we have started a number of topics in this forum for some of the specific new features, with topic titles like “v4: Take lane alignment.” If you have any feedback, bug reports, or suggestions about specific 4.0 features, please use the relevant topic, or the “v4: Everything else” topic.

v4 topics:
Flexible interface engine (WALTER)
Take lane alignment
Comping takes
Project Media/FX Bay
Media Explorer time selection
Media Item Properties dialog
Mouse Modifiers
Area selection and editing changes
Multichannel improvements
Track stereo width, improved panning modes
ReaSurround
Input FX chains

Everything else includes the full whatsnew changelog.

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Old 12-01-2010, 11:31 AM   #2
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Sweet!

edit: installed now - total sickness!

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Old 12-01-2010, 11:39 AM   #3
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Congrats guys...
Cannot way to try it !!!!
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:45 AM   #4
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Default xmas has come early...yaho

thanks..thanks and thanks dave
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:49 AM   #5
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OMG!!! Thank you so much!!! X-Mas came early this year. : )

So when you install V4 a box comes up that automatically uninstalls Pro Tools, Cubase, Logic etc. and then another box opens after that up that says "You're Welcome!!!". Nice feature! : )

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Old 12-01-2010, 11:54 AM   #6
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I believe that I may have inadvertently soiled myself. But that squishy feeling in my undergarments will have to endure until at least I have installed Reaper 4 and played with if for about 10 hours.

My cat is looking at me in an odd way, testing the air. Patience, little one...
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:55 AM   #7
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Looking good! I've always been critical of Reaper, even as a user. But this looks like it will be a great update. Going to download now! Thanks for the work so far.

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Old 12-01-2010, 11:55 AM   #8
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Damn, I really wish I didn't have to go to work right now, but it's probably better it came out this morning otherwise, I wouldn't have slept!

Thanks guys!
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Old 12-01-2010, 11:57 AM   #9
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Thanks guys...

and nearly on time !

EDIT: OMG it´s 5 MB and it´s greeeeen

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Old 12-01-2010, 11:59 AM   #10
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Sweet GUI!
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:04 PM   #11
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Yay Big congratulations from chilly UK!! Now it really does feel like xmas is coming early this year!

R4 changelog looks great - I can hardly wait to start playing. I'm now torn between meeting an obligation and blowing it out to play with R4

As a first observation, it would be nice if some of the other really small FR's (where it's trivial programming) could make it into R4 as well. There are plenty of these, but for instance one of mine is zoom-dependent Ctrl+right/left behaviour for forward/backward that's appropriate at whatever zoom level. I'm not looking so much to plug my pet FR, but it strikes me that there are plenty of FR's / nitpicks that constitute minor programming that could really give R4 the polish it deserves during this major development phase.

Exciting times - keep up the good work!!!

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Old 12-01-2010, 12:08 PM   #12
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:17 PM   #13
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here's the whole thing in an unofficial word doc if you are at school or work like I am and want to print the whole thing:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3305204/v4.rtf
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:17 PM   #14
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Installing now and thanks for being who you are!

(I was meant to be doing work as well, but what a great excuse not to!)
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:23 PM   #15
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:25 PM   #16
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Looks awesome! I'll be home in about an hour and installing, thanks cockos!
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:37 PM   #17
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Thank you! I'll be able to really dive in tonight





(Does anyone else feel all giddy inside? Is it wrong that REAPER gives me so many butterflies? hehe..)
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:42 PM   #18
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Thanks! Looking forward to the new panning stuff, etc., and also to see how the new theme features can be exploited.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:46 PM   #19
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This is very nice! Love it.

Installed in a new sub directory - saved my reamenus and then went with the new default 4.0 menus. I really like how cleaned up the menus are! Great job! The overall look of the GUI is clean and easy to figure out.

I need to sort through the issue of keeping the reamenus to still appear for 3.7+.

Do we install the latest SWS extensions or wait? For now, I'm waiting.


Again, this is a great looking and powerful DAW you guys have.

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Old 12-01-2010, 12:53 PM   #20
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Can't install to "C:\Program Files (x86)", must be a permissions/UAC thing.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:02 PM   #21
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Yee-hah!
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:18 PM   #22
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Lots of goodies to look into. Thanks very much to the wonderful Cockos guys!
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:21 PM   #23
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EEEK..

Many thanks to cockos for including us bums in shaping things for V4!

need to delve deeper before i give feedback, but direction seems good..

2 things that have passed my little brain in the short time:

Automation? << any love ?

elastic audio/warp type features? << ?

FX browser polishing also comes to mind.

anyways i appreciate its alpha 1 but just asking if there is consideration .


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Old 12-01-2010, 01:22 PM   #24
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OH MY GOD.

Mixer layouts.

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Old 12-01-2010, 01:30 PM   #25
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here's the whole thing in an unofficial word doc if you are at school or work like I am and want to print the whole thing:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3305204/v4.rtf
Awesome thanks Jason

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Old 12-01-2010, 01:31 PM   #26
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Don't like the new look, changed back to version 3.00 theme.
Hope a better theme come out soon. The track colours look drab in the TCP.
Don't think I'll get used to it.
Don't get me wrong. There's a lot of great stuff here, but I'll stick with White Tie 3.0.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:32 PM   #27
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oh thank you just for that little tack [IMG]http://img694.**************/img694/329/tack.jpg[/IMG]

and I am sure that there are more important updates than this as well, this is just the first thing i checked I just hope the sticky MIDI note behaviour was fixed, oh please please please

Default GUI looks very good

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Old 12-01-2010, 01:38 PM   #28
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had a 30 sec race through the new version, looks and feels very very good.
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Old 12-01-2010, 01:45 PM   #29
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Well,

Many happy guys

and

many not as happy ones (where is Matrix/notation and all those fancy FR)

Meybe it is still to soon in the PR timeline.


Anyway some nice improvements (for now lol) I wish I had a 5.1 (or+) system to make some mixing.

ANyway I will test it.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:06 PM   #30
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Wow. The possibilities have really just hit home for me. This is completely DIY DAW territory...
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:11 PM   #31
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Friend of mine called me with this news. I'm in the middle of a mix(by myself).

Going to be an interesting weekend. Lots to discover.

Someone pull out the Obama skit. It's appropriate.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:13 PM   #32
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This is very nice! Love it.


Do we install the latest SWS extensions or wait? For now, I'm waiting.

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I just wanted to throw this question out in a more clear way.





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Old 12-01-2010, 02:27 PM   #33
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Thank you guys!

Clearly a lot of work has been put into it. I like a lot of the new UI stuff. And many interesting improvements, some gems hidden in the "medium-small" stuff.

I was hoping for some major MIDI/arranging improvements but they're sadly still not with us. And some other lesser stuff like multi-channel meters, left/right dockers, track inspector etc... I was expecting to see early on.

What I do hope, is for the major new stuff that IS implemented, to work great and break new ground. And not require too much bug-fixing so that more time is spent on even more new stuff

The next couple of months are about to get very interesting, thanks again Cockos!
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Bazinga! Lots of stuff to dig into here.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:33 PM   #35
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Heaaaaaaaaaaaven.... I'm in Heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaven just like the SONG!!!!

Speeechless guys, speeechless, feel like a kid with a brand new toy!!!!!

Thumbs up to Cockos & All

Good testing!!!!
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:09 PM   #37
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Sounds like a very nice update.
However, after Justin mentioned he has Reaper running on Linux, I really expected a Linux version to be (one of) the big news for Reaper 4. Thus, I am a bit disappointed. It would have been a reasonable step also.

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Old 12-01-2010, 03:21 PM   #38
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observation: track monitor button is a little confusing. i know red means stop/off/etc., but maybe the monitor on state should be green , or the monitor button should be x'ed some how.
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observation: track monitor button is a little confusing. i know red means stop/off/etc., but maybe the monitor on state should be green , or the monitor button should be x'ed some how.
YES.

i was trying to use the virt midi keyboard and didn't know if i was monitoring or not, red = not monitoring and 'nothing' = monitoring. topsy turvy!!

some other colour such as green would help.
the monitor button is also now quite a distance from the ARM button. they are kind of brothers/sisters/cousins so should be close i think as they have been in the past... no cousin gags please
think of new users trying to play a synth who haven't 'inserted virtual instrument' .... nightmare!!!
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:35 PM   #40
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Won't install at all.

"Error opening file for writing

C:\Program Files (x86)\REAPER4\reaper.exe

Click Abort to stop the installation,
retry to try again, or
Ignore to skip this file"

On Windows 7 Home Edition

I am the administrator of the machine, and it's the only log-in I have. I have no problem installing other software, so it can only be a problem with REAPER. I see someone else has had the same problem.

I'm using the reaper04alpha2-install.exe
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