Old 04-20-2017, 09:50 PM   #1
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Default Sidechaining (Not using Reacomp) All tracks

Say I wanted a kick to sidechain with all other tracks I have. Whats a practical way of doing this? I just put every other track into a folder and routed the kick to the parent folder track. Any others?
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:58 AM   #2
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Kicks usually smear the compressor. Try something with less low frequency content. Like a hat.

In terms of the process yeah that sounds like the easiest and most practical way to go about it.
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Old 04-21-2017, 01:09 AM   #3
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Kicks usually smear the compressor. Try something with less low frequency content. Like a hat.
This makes no sense.
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This makes no sense.
The length and frequency content of your trigger has a pretty dramatic effect on the outcome of your sidechain buss.

Take both a kick and a sharp hat and compare. IMHO hats make a much more controllable compressor.

It really all depends on your desired effect though.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:30 AM   #5
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The length and frequency content of your trigger has a pretty dramatic effect on the outcome of your sidechain buss.
yes, that's why i posted my comment. it makes no sense to use a "substitution" that is completely opposite. i would just use side chain filters, but whatever works i guess.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:17 AM   #6
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Its Like i said, to have more control. Its so your kicks wave form isn't determining the outcome of the compressor (unless thats what you want of course). But Then you can use the compressors attack and release controls to shape further in more detail. And Using reacomps sidechain filters does not effect the length of the wave form so much. I simply cant get i want by using the kick routed to the master as a trigger. The music im working on is sidechain heavy. Having 12db of gr is not rare in my case. If side chaining is going to be a prominent and obvious feature in my tracks, i need it to shine with perfectness
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:41 AM   #7
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Its Like i said, to have more control. Its so your kicks wave form isn't determining the outcome of the compressor (unless thats what you want of course). But Then you can use the compressors attack and release controls to shape further in more detail. And Using reacomps sidechain filters does not effect the length of the wave form so much. I simply cant get i want by using the kick routed to the master as a trigger. The music im working on is sidechain heavy. Having 12db of gr is not rare in my case. If side chaining is going to be a prominent and obvious feature in my tracks, i need it to shine with perfectness
But as far as I know, sidechaining with a kick drum track is used in order to tame concurrent kick and bass guitar transients, so the hi-hat track can't be a substitute for this. I don't really know about sidechaining the entire mix, though. Maybe he's looking for a different effect.
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But as far as I know, sidechaining with a kick drum track is used in order to tame concurrent kick and bass guitar transients, so the hi-hat track can't be a substitute for this. I don't really know about sidechaining the entire mix, though. Maybe he's looking for a different effect.
Maybe it's a specially created track for triggering the sidechain rather than the hat in the mix.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:53 AM   #9
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A lot can be done by pre-filtering the 3/4 channel on the target track, and by using the filters, RMS, and pre-comp of ReaComp to change the kick drum response.
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I agree with OPI. Sidechain trigger doesn't need to be a sound that is heard or something already used in the mix.

For details see my Ghost Sidechain video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmq_qGVI4WA

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Maybe it's a specially created track for triggering the sidechain rather than the hat in the mix.
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I agree with OPI. Sidechain trigger doesn't need to be a sound that is heard or something already used in the mix.

For details see my Ghost Sidechain video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmq_qGVI4WA

Haha muxh better than my explanation. Also messing with the pre setting on the compressor can help a bit. I like mine around 10..
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