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10-19-2008, 03:58 AM
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talkback plugin
just read about this in sound on sound
http://www.smassey.com/plugin.html
these plugs are just RTAS but I really like the idea of the talkback plugin.
it mutes the signal when in play or record or when audio is above a user definable threshold. is this a simple thing for you JS gurus to make?
thanks in advance to those that want to give it a go
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10-19-2008, 12:55 PM
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Isn't a talkback comp just a side-chain comp ?
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10-19-2008, 02:38 PM
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would be very easy to build, i'll knock it up tonight if no one else has done so by then
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10-19-2008, 04:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sinkmusic
Isn't a talkback comp just a side-chain comp ?
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not after a talkback comp. one part is more a ducker that shuts off the signal completely (mute) when the volume gets too loud, but also the cool thing about this is that it mutes when the transport is playing or recording
this is not for the talkback mic in the control room, (although it could be used for it), this is for a mic in the recording space so performers can talk to you in between takes but it shuts off automatically when you go into play or record or they get too noisy.
Last edited by Sonic Vampire; 10-19-2008 at 04:11 PM.
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10-19-2008, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dub3000
would be very easy to build, i'll knock it up tonight if no one else has done so by then
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awesome, thanks for giving it a go
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10-21-2008, 03:38 PM
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got caught up with some other stuff, oops. will try for it tonight.
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10-22-2008, 01:49 PM
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I'm on a train and got little to do, so I just wrote a talkback plug. However, because I'm on that train I cannot post it until tomorrow (I'm writing this from my cell). Hopefully dub3000 will beat me to it : ) Regards, Jonas.
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10-22-2008, 08:43 PM
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ha! i'm too slow, by the looks of things. you post yours!
i was just going to build mine as: simple ducker -> simple compressor -> mute if play_state == 1 or 5
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10-22-2008, 10:28 PM
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Her's my take on it (I've just gotten off the train so I haven't had the time to try it in the studio, but it worked well on the train : )
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/73960/Jonas-talkback
Installation: put the file in ...REAPER\Effects\Jonas (or just somewhere in ...REAPER\Effects).
Hope you like it, let me know if you want me to change it someway (or if it doesn't work as expected).
Regards,
- Jonas
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10-23-2008, 09:20 AM
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Great! That's extremely useful.
Any chance we can have this as part of the general distro? I can see it at work on many many sessions.
Many thanks.
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10-24-2008, 12:57 AM
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cool, thanks for doing this, haven't had a chance to have a look at it yet though, life is keeping me out of my studio, will check it out asap.
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10-24-2008, 01:22 AM
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Thanks all! I'll just tidy up the code and wait until Sonic Vampire has had time to check that it works like expected, then I'll talk to Justin about getting it in the main distro.
Regards,
- Jonas
not on a train anymore : )
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10-24-2008, 01:51 AM
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hi Jonas
had a quick look and a play with a test tone. looks like it does the important stuff. not sure what the RMS function is doing, cant tell with a simple tone and an old internet computer running badly. the only other thing that could be added would be a rudimentary compressor, although it is no big deal to add a JS comp after this plugin, but an all in one solution is a nice way to go. as it is, it would definitely do the job. really like the unmute release time too.
thanks heaps
sonic
ps, while writing next post I thought about the possibility of using a mic already in use for recording. perhaps a gain before a compressor would allow a mic that is capturing a loud source to be used as the talkback mic
Last edited by Sonic Vampire; 10-24-2008 at 02:09 AM.
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10-24-2008, 01:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by griz lee
Great! That's extremely useful.
Any chance we can have this as part of the general distro? I can see it at work on many many sessions.
Many thanks.
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agreed, once people have used this they will wonder how the got by without it.
I am always forgetting to mute and unmute my talkback channel(s), any thing that decreases button pushes and speeds up communication has got to be good for the session.
Last edited by Sonic Vampire; 10-24-2008 at 02:05 AM.
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10-24-2008, 02:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas_Eriksson_Swe
Her's my take on it (I've just gotten off the train so I haven't had the time to try it in the studio, but it worked well on the train : )
https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/73960/Jonas-talkback
Installation: put the file in ...REAPER\Effects\Jonas (or just somewhere in ...REAPER\Effects).
Hope you like it, let me know if you want me to change it someway (or if it doesn't work as expected).
Regards,
- Jonas
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Mint! Does what its ment for. :-)
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02-27-2009, 03:42 AM
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Thanks!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
The lack of this feature, was the thing that kept me from converting from Cubase...
I am very happy of the controlroom mixer in Cubase, becouse of the talkback button that automatickly mutes when recording.
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04-06-2009, 05:17 AM
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Chalk up another vote to include this in the standard distribution.
Excellent.
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04-07-2009, 12:21 AM
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Another +1 here to have this talk back plug-in packaged with REAPER.
Shane
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05-09-2010, 01:30 PM
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I dont know how to get this to load in reaper?
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05-21-2010, 06:16 AM
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Please no more we'll find the plug-Jonas Talkback. where can I download
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05-21-2010, 06:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabio Ramon
Please no more we'll find the plug-Jonas Talkback. where can I download
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r-click>save as... https://stash.reaper.fm/oldsb/73960/Jonas-talkback
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04-22-2011, 01:36 PM
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also can't seem to install it.
Put it in the Effects folder but can't seem to find it in Reaper FX.
Anyone?
Thanks,
Steve
Found it... i has to be in /USER/Library/Application Support/Reaper/Effects...silly
Last edited by stevep314; 04-22-2011 at 01:54 PM.
Reason: Found Solution...
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09-16-2013, 06:12 AM
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This is enormously helpful.
I'm so happy having found this.
It's so typical Reaper, so many hidden gems.
Bump for including this in the standard Reaper JS plugins. People deserve this feature
And thank you Jonas!
(btw I couldn't find the bespoken folder but managed to create a new JS plugin by right clicking on the left part of the FX-browser. Then copy-pasting the content of "Jonas-talkback" and saving.)
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04-16-2014, 09:42 AM
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Give the attached a try.
Drag the knobs up/down; Alt+drag for faster changes.
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04-16-2014, 11:15 AM
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Nice one! Looks good for a JS effect.
Can font smoothing be done in a JS? Doesn't really matter but those green letters look really jagged.
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04-16-2014, 11:29 AM
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I don't think so.
Try changing the font or removing the italics option in the gfx_setfont() statement.
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04-16-2014, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
I don't think so.
Try changing the font or removing the italics option in the gfx_setfont() statement.
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Appreciate yours and Jonas' efforts.
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08-07-2015, 11:44 AM
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Talkback button?
Once again thanks for this plugin!
Could you please add a big button called "talkback" that unmutes the plugin? I'm using it a lot in cubase, when i want to speak to the performers during a recording. If i push it during a recording, it should reset it's state when i stop.
Could you also please and two switches, to select if the plugin mutes during rec and/or play?
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08-22-2015, 01:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
Give the attached a try.
Drag the knobs up/down; Alt+drag for faster changes.
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Deeply appreciated Jonas, this is precisely what I needed, totally solves my workflow. Off to test. Cheers.
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11-11-2020, 11:25 AM
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Question re js talkback control
Hey all -- old thread, but hoping someone can help. I've been using this plugin in for a while to manage a couple of live room talkback mics I've got hanging from the ceiling. It has been great in most respects, especially in covid time sessions.
I have it running as an FX plug on a track that has the room mics as inputs in the default project template so that whenever I create a new project, its up and running. Not sure if there's a better way to use it ?
Anyway, the issue I have is that if I have a project open with the talkback control running and I then open another new or existing project, all audio coming through the mics / plugin is muted while the 2nd project opens. So the talkback mics are cut off for anywhere from 2 to 15 seconds depending on the project being opened. Very disruptive during a session.
Other audio appears unaffected, eg I can be playing back an existing track[s] in one project tab and then open a 2nd project without affecting the playback of audio in the first. But audio coming through the talkback plugin is muted.
any ideas on how I might get it to not mute the audio when loading a new project ?
thanks mucho
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