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12-17-2007, 06:31 PM
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2.018 crashes on .flac file import (FIXED)
Drop .flac file onto Reaper icon.
Reaper goes half way through build peaks process, and locks up motionless.
I might as well go make casserole instead
FIXED (2.107)
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12-17-2007, 06:52 PM
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It works on the FLAC files I've tried here.. can you post a file it crashes on?
Thanks..
-Justin
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12-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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http://www.radio.uqam.ca/ambisonic/a...ive_stereo.zip
has 3 flac files in it which don't work for me. The newest flac front end for windows decodes them ok though.
[I was trying to work out from Daniel Courville's surround audio site if it is worth buying a zoom H2 or not. He's got some comparison recordings up here, in flac. They're not really my thing, church organs and stuff, but i'm disapointed that they all just stop after a while when dropped onto the reaper icon - it gets stuck building peaks.]
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12-28-2007, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by griz lee
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confirmed. reaper hangs.
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12-28-2007, 07:02 PM
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got it here...
so we're a ways behind in FLAC versions.. so I thought we should upgrade..
turns out, they removed the VERY API WE USE from FLAC, so now it's going to be a big pain in the ass to upgrade. UGH. STUPIDITY.
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12-29-2007, 02:14 AM
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up to which flac version can you go with the current api?
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01-19-2008, 09:36 AM
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i take it the only workaround right now is to re-encode to .wav?
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01-19-2008, 10:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
up to which flac version can you go with the current api?
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The one we're using
Either we can get them to add a wrapper API, or eventually we can spend some time upgrading it..
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01-20-2008, 05:47 AM
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or eventually we can spend some time upgrading it..
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sounds like the better idea to me.
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01-20-2008, 08:01 AM
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wanted to jump in real quick. i noticed if i rename the repeaks that were built with the .wav's to the .flac extension that reaper will still work with the files.
i don't know how wise of a work-around this is, but it saves me quite a bit of drive space.
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03-03-2008, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Either we can get them to add a wrapper API, or eventually we can spend some time upgrading it..
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Porting guide for new versions: http://flac.sourceforge.net/api/group__porting.html
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03-03-2008, 09:01 PM
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Thanks, looking at upgrading...
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03-03-2008, 09:06 PM
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nice
thank you too!
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03-03-2008, 10:38 PM
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03-03-2008, 11:05 PM
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i my files that i have here basically work. will try the other files which caused the hangs later (currently downloading them).
BUT: i can't zoom into samplelevel! or to say it better -> i can, but the waveform disappears when doing so. peaks build properly, but zooming in to detail doesn't work ...
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03-03-2008, 11:11 PM
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also why are there only 16 and 24 (which doesn't work = distorted sound) bit output options for the encoder? the website says it supports 4 to 32 bit bitdepth ...
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03-03-2008, 11:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
will try the other files which caused the hangs later (currently downloading them).
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ok, tried these http://www.radio.uqam.ca/ambisonic/a...ive_stereo.zip files and they work properly now.
so it's just the issues with "zooming into detail not working" and the non-working 24 bit encoder which need to be fixed ...
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03-04-2008, 12:27 AM
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hmm 24 bit is working fine here (at least it sounds fine)
fixed the zoomed-in peaks bug -- redownload that dll.
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03-04-2008, 12:38 AM
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Quote:
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hmm 24 bit is working fine here (at least it sounds fine)
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sorry, it's foobar2000's fault. reaper plays the 24 bps files fine!
but: can you please remove the "(broken, not for recommended now)" comment then? or what's broken there?
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fixed the zoomed-in peaks bug -- redownload that dll.
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thanks! works fine now!
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03-04-2008, 02:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
sorry, it's foobar2000's fault. reaper plays the 24 bps files fine!
but: can you please remove the "(broken, not for recommended now)" comment then? or what's broken there?
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justin, i've posted a 24 bps flac file from reaper to the foobar2000 forum and there a guy wrote that it is corrupted according to FLACTester (comes with the FLAC installer):
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[1/1] C:\Users\Antti\Downloads\24-bps.flac...FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_UNPARSEABLE_STREAM
1 files, 1 errors [1]
here the file http://www.outburst-audio.com/maik/24-bps.flac (1.2 MB)
and here the original thread: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...howtopic=57774
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03-04-2008, 02:30 AM
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Are you sure FLAC supports 32bit fp files? I thought only WavPack supported those. Maybe they finally implemented it? That would be great!
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03-04-2008, 02:31 AM
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v2018 ??
already ?
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03-04-2008, 02:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DuX
Are you sure FLAC supports 32bit fp files? I thought only WavPack supported those. Maybe they finally implemented it? That would be great!
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it claims to support 32 bit integer:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#general__samples
but i don't know if they mean the input or output with that ...
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v2018 ??
already ?
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03-04-2008, 02:50 AM
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A-ha. 32bit integer... thanks Dandruff . Nice to know these things as I work 99% with 32bit fp files.
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03-04-2008, 03:14 AM
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yeah, use wavpack then ...
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03-04-2008, 06:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandruff
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justin, here a 24 bps flac file, which works fine in foobar2000: http://koti.mbnet.fi/tritonus/DotNoir/test.flac
so it really seems reaper doesn't encode correctly at 24 bps ...
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03-04-2008, 10:41 AM
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ok, but i can play this http://koti.mbnet.fi/tritonus/DotNoir/test.flac 24 bps file fine in foobar2000, while the 24 bps files from reaper give extreme distorted sound in foobar2000. any chance to get this working at least? i also don't care about the flac tester ...
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03-04-2008, 11:10 AM
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03-04-2008, 11:14 AM
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captured the output of foobar:
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03-04-2008, 11:19 AM
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Is foobar linked with the 1.2.1 code?
I think the error in flactest is probably unrelated to foobar's error (since flactest fails completely and foobar just distorts).. lemme install foobar.
-Justin
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03-04-2008, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
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Is foobar linked with the 1.2.1 code?
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"linked"? i think it has the latest flac decoder version "onboard". at least on this http://koti.mbnet.fi/tritonus/DotNoir/test.flac 24 bps file (which plays properly) it says "reference libFLAC 1.2.1 20070917" ...
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03-04-2008, 11:25 AM
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OK I think this is an error in foobar (perhaps flac updated 24 bit support for 1.2.x and foobar needs to be brought up to date). For example, try decoding that 24 bit file using the 1.2.1 command line flac decoder, it works fine. flac.exe -d file.flac -o file.wav
-Justin
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03-04-2008, 11:29 AM
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i don't have the flac package installed here.
how do you explain that foobar can play http://koti.mbnet.fi/tritonus/DotNoir/test.flac without problems? isn't that file encoded with 1.2.1 too?
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03-04-2008, 02:00 PM
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who knows ...
does it play in winamp?
and why is the option called "24 bps (broken, not for recommended now)" in reaper? is the old encoder meant with that?
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03-04-2008, 02:05 PM
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Well the old encoder failed on 24 bit stuff (generated valid flac bitstreams but didn't acheive any compression). I'll update it to not show "broken" since it appears to work correctly now.
Haven't tried the winamp flac plug-in...
-Justin
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03-04-2008, 02:15 PM
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alright, thanks!
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04-15-2008, 05:20 AM
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Justin,
here a new reply from the foobar2000 developer:
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Originally Posted by Peter (Foobar2000 developer)
On this file, libFLAC returns 24-bit samples improperly padded to 32-bit, with most significant bits filled with garbage instead of correct sign expansion. I'd like to hear a reply from Josh about this before I implement a workaround which would have negative impact on everyone's decoding speeds, even on correct files.
This problem isn't 24-bit specific at all, the same issue could potentially occur with 16-bit files.
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http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...dpost&p=559045
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