Old 03-02-2011, 10:40 AM   #1
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Here is a little something a friend of mine gave me as a birthday present (seriously!) that I would like to share with everyone who's interested.

http://yellowbites.com/downloads/ReScore-1.0.0.zip

It's a score view plug-in for reaper using a special version of musescore to display the notes. But just check the readme for more information. And yes it's only a viewer, not an editor, but it works great, especially on a dual monitor setup using one for the midi editor and the other one for the plugin.

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I already use an external editor for notation and am very very happy with it.
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Happy birthday Matthias, and thanks for sharing your present.
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I already use an external editor for notation and am very very happy with it.
Could tell us which one ?
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I already use an external editor for notation and am very very happy with it.
In a way it's much more than an external editor since you can actually view multiple tracks at once. For me it's seeing how different voices interact that I need a traditional score view for the most.
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Here is a little something a friend of mine gave me as a birthday present (seriously!) that I would like to share with everyone who's interested.

http://yellowbites.com/downloads/ReScore-1.0.0.zip

It's a score view plug-in for reaper using a special version of musescore to display the notes. But just check the readme for more information. And yes it's only a viewer, not an editor, but it works great, especially on a dual monitor setup using one for the midi editor and the other one for the plugin.

Have fun with it.
Holy macaroni... cool. Thanks for sharing.
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In a way it's much more than an external editor since you can actually view multiple tracks at once. For me it's seeing how different voices interact that I need a traditional score view for the most.
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Sorry, I don't speak French very well. If you post your problems in the English forum I might be able to help.
Matthias thank you for your attention to non-English speaking forums !

I have installed ReScore in both Reaper 3.75 and 4.47.
I can see Score View in View menu, but it only opens an empty MuseScore page, since I have several MIDI tracks in my Reaper project.
Thanks for your help !
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Very cool!

Would be great if there was an option to create two staves per track, with optional split point, though. If possible.

And how do you get it to recognize different voices? This is not what I'd call a good display of voice leading:

[IMG]http://img849.**************/img849/8167/prv.png[/IMG]

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Old 03-03-2011, 05:00 AM   #9
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I have multiple MIDI tracks and it shows nothing.
I did exactly what the ReadMe said.
What I am wondering is: Why is only the reaper_rescore.dll and rescore file being put in Reaper when there is much more to the plugin?

P.S. Could someone make a toolbar button for this with some kind of musical note or clef symbol on it?
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I initially had the problem of empty score. If you right-click a MIDI item and choose to show the score, it should work. You need to have the MIDI item selected, I think.

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Why is only the reaper_rescore.dll and rescore file being put in Reaper when there is much more to the plugin?
You put the "reaper_score.dll" plus the whole "rescore" folder in Reapers Plugins folder (not your own VST folder). What else are you referring to? The rest of the stuff in the zip-file is the source code and some license text; not useful for most of us...
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I can only get it to show one track/item even though I have multiple selected.
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I can see Score View in View menu, but it only opens an empty MuseScore page, since I have several MIDI tracks in my Reaper project.
Select either the tracks (to view all items on these tracks) or the items you want to display. Then open the context menu on those (selected track or items) and choose either "Show tracks in score view" or "Toggle tracks in score view". At this point it doesn't matter which one since "Show" adds the items/tracks to those already displayed (none at start), while "Toggle" only displays those newly selected.
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Would be great if there was an option to create two staves per track, with optional split point, though. If possible.
If you change the MIDI channel for those notes that you want to be displayed on the second staff it will work.

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And how do you get it to recognize different voices?
Musescore doesn't automatically recognize different voices on import, so I'm afraid it's currently not possible.
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Select either the tracks (to view all items on these tracks) or the items you want to display. Then open the context menu on those (selected track or items) and choose either "Show tracks in score view" or "Toggle tracks in score view". At this point it doesn't matter which one since "Show" adds the items/tracks to those already displayed (none at start), while "Toggle" only displays those newly selected.
OK, I realized why I was wrong : I was taking the general View menu, not the context menu for the tracks...
Thanks Matthias !
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If you change the MIDI channel for those notes that you want to be displayed on the second staff it will work.
Interesting. I would've expected two staves (treble and bass) for ONE channel...

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Musescore doesn't automatically recognize different voices on import, so I'm afraid it's currently not possible.
Thanks for the info!
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dang! off to try it out!
thank you and Happy birthday!
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This is another step forward.

Thank you, and happy birthday.
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mathias ..... this is simply awesome .... HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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From the readme:
The plug-in prepares the MIDI data from REAPER's items as an in-memory MIDI file and sends it over to MuseScore. MuseScore's MIDI import feature is used to convert the data into an internal representation that is displayed. Since there doesn't seem to be a simple way for a REAPER plug-in to find out what part of REAPER's data has changed (or even just when that has happened) the plug-in periodically (once a second) prepares the MIDI data and compares them to the data previously sent to MuseScore. If something changed in the meantime, the whole data are sent.
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Hello!

I've done the install but don't see any evidence of new options in any of the context menus or the action list? This is on Alpha 4, the most recent 50a version.

I tried it in both my regular full installation with a custom theme and some custom menus, and in a default, unmodified portable installation. The only thing I can think of is that I'm running the 64 bit version, and maybe this plugin only works on the 32 bit version?

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Check to see if the file and folder are there.
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Yes, I moved both to the reaper plugins folder.
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I'm running the 64 bit version, and maybe this plugin only works on the 32 bit version?
Hi Hartley,

It works with the latest alpha, but the plugin is currently 32 bit only. As I understand, it is relatively straight forward but tedious to compile a x64 version. I'll ask my friend if he could help me do that. In the meantime maybe you could try the 32 bit version, I'm too using an x86 Reaper under an x64 Windows.
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Yes, I did a portable install of the 32 bit V4 alpha 50, and it shows up in the menus, and I opened a midi file to display the score with no problem.

I would be very interested to help in the further development of this. Now that Muse Score is more stable, it's hopefully outgrown the concerns we had earlier when we tried it with Reaper. Have you thought about setting it up as a formal open source project? Since you're already distributing the source, it seems like this would be a good option. Maybe it could be set up on Sourceforge or Google or a fork of the Muse Score project or the Reaper wiki, whatever.

This assumes that nothing is going to be announced for V4 from Cockos itself, which we've been waiting to be sure about. I guess at this point in the cycle, it's increasingly unlikely. But I still haven't seen any formal communication about it one way or the other.

Thanks very much for the great work on this,
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Thank you very much!!
All I need is a Score view.... this is great!
Thanks for sharing...

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This assumes that nothing is going to be announced for V4 from Cockos itself, which we've been waiting to be sure about. I guess at this point in the cycle, it's increasingly unlikely. But I still haven't seen any formal communication about it one way or the other.
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Wow! Many thanks for this plugin!
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well it's a sort of start, huh?

we 'know' cockos can do this... don't we.
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well it's a sort of start, huh?

we 'know' cockos can do this... don't we.
Is there anything in their background(s) that would indicate that they can read music? Wouldn't that be a prerequisite?

Something other than "Hey guys. Let's jam! Ours goes to eleven."
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Is there anything in their background(s) that would indicate that they can read music? Wouldn't that be a prerequisite?
Oh, ignorance. You are so cute!
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It was in the form of a question.
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Something other than "Hey guys. Let's jam! Ours goes to eleven."
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we 'know' cockos can do this... don't we.
Could the person who wrote this create a Score View?

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I already use an external editor for notation and am very very happy with it.
So why are you even posting in this thread?
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Could the person who wrote this create a Score View?
why not?

what are you trying to say here? Just come on out and say it, don't hide

also, cockos is not a "person" it is a company. There are at least 3 developers involved in the creation of reaper.

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This assumes that nothing is going to be announced for V4 from Cockos itself, which we've been waiting to be sure about. I guess at this point in the cycle, it's increasingly unlikely. But I still haven't seen any formal communication about it one way or the other.
He said it best.
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He said it best.
evading still?

actually, one seems to be alluding to a matter of "wont" and the other "cant"

but sure, feel free to continue eluding
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Hi Hartley,

It works with the latest alpha, but the plugin is currently 32 bit only. As I understand, it is relatively straight forward but tedious to compile a x64 version. I'll ask my friend if he could help me do that. In the meantime maybe you could try the 32 bit version, I'm too using an x86 Reaper under an x64 Windows.
A x64 version would be awesome, but already a big thank you for making this available.
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evading still?

actually, one seems to be alluding to a matter of "wont" and the other "cant"

but sure, feel free to continue eluding
You seem to be alluding to "they know how to write a Score View but don't want to yet".

I was of the opinion that "they would like to write a Score View, but don't have the knowledge of musical notation".

You alluded, with "Oh, ignorance. You are so cute!" that you have direct knowledge that the developers can read music.

But we are both looking at Reaper Version 4.0 and still no Score View.

"This assumes that nothing is going to be announced for V4 from Cockos itself, which we've been waiting to be sure about. I guess at this point in the cycle, it's increasingly unlikely. But I still haven't seen any formal communication about it one way or the other."

Maybe you have inside information. Just come on out and say it, don't hide.
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I wasn't hiding at all. I was pointing out ignorance, which goes way beyond just not knowing if a person on the reaper staff can read music...

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I was of the opinion that "they would like to write a Score View, but don't have the knowledge of musical notation".
you seem to assume that if a person likes to jam, or if a person charts out music in terms of "verse/chorus/verse" (you know, like the beatles) or whatever that picture is showing (wonder where you got that?), that somehow they don't know how to read music. That just because reaper doesn't have a score editor means that the reaper staff doesn't know how to read music.

It's really a very naive argument, honestly. Yes, reaper does not have a score editor yet. And those who want it, keep beating on the drum, and maybe something will happen, like anything else. However, assumptions about the skill level of people involved and people in general really don't come across as friendly or honest. Just some kind of bullish attempts at manipulation, or at the very least, an extremely flawed argument.

Want to criticize reaper for not having a score editor? I have no qualms with that, I think people should find the exact right tools for the jobs at hand, and if this tool is close, maybe a few FR's that are well thought out will get us there. Attempts at getting personal about it look pathetic, however.
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