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07-23-2014, 08:29 AM
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A bonus tip when using ReaVerb:
I always recommend activating (checking) both the "ZL" and "LL" boxes in ReaVerb.
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07-23-2014, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SMM
A bonus tip when using ReaVerb:
I always recommend activating (checking) both the "ZL" and "LL" boxes in ReaVerb.
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Explain please? What are they and what does checking accomplish?
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07-24-2014, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffsounds
Explain please? What are they and what does checking accomplish?
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These are latency/processing options in ReaVerb.
" ZL " = Use this option to enable zero latency: useful when tracking to monitor reverb levels.
" LL " = Use this option to use an extra thread to improve low latency performance.
I find that keeping these both checked (at all times) helps to
prevent audio/reverb processing problems for some computers.
Here is an example of a conversation that took place regarding this:
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Originally Posted by bigwoody
These are very nice but I have a ReaVerb vs SIR question/issue. When I use these inpulses in ReaVerb (all default settings) I get all kinds of crackles and distortion. When I use the same ones in SIR - quiet as can be. System is WinXP with 3G ram. Not that I have an issue with using SIR but I always try to use Reaper FX when possible to make it easier to collaborate with others. Any suggestions.
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Originally Posted by Tod
Try checking the box down in the lower right corner for LL. It stands for lower latencers or something like that, don't know for sure. I don't usually have problems but I had the same problem the other day and when I checked that they went away.
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Originally Posted by SMM
Put a check mark (click on) BOTH the "ZL" and "LL" boxes in ReaVerb
to see if that makes a difference for your computer.
(These are latency/processing options in ReaVerb).
" ZL " = Use this option to enable zero latency: useful when tracking to monitor reverb levels.
" LL " = Use this option to use an extra thread to improve low latency performance.
I hope this information helps.
Be sure to let us know if you were able to solve the ReaVerb issue in your computer.
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Originally Posted by bigwoody
Awesome guys, thanks for all the suggestions. Tod's "LL" check did the trick. I haven't had a ton of time to test, but my quick comparison of various impulses with the "LL" box on vs off solves the issue so far. If I run into further issues I'll try some of the other stuff.
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Note: I recommend keeping both "ZL" and "LL" checked as standard practice.
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Bonus information here
about the MAX FFT setting in ReaVerb:
The default MAX FFT setting in ReaVerb is: "16384".
FFT (Fast Fourier Transform) filters are a complex mathematical topic.
Changing the FFT size changes CPU usage.
A lower FFT setting means a higher CPU usage, but spread more evenly.
Higher FFT sizes will consume less CPU but result in more latency.
FFT size will therefore affect performance and possible dropouts, but it
should not affect the sound itself.
If you don't understand it, you're probably best advised to accept the default setting.
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07-24-2014, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMM
These are latency/processing options in ReaVerb.
" ZL " = Use this option to enable zero latency: useful when tracking to monitor reverb levels.
" LL " = Use this option to use an extra thread to improve low latency performance.
I find that keeping these both checked (at all times) helps to
prevent audio/reverb processing problems for some computers.
Here is an example of a conversation that took place regarding this:
Note: I recommend keeping both "ZL" and "LL" checked as standard practice.
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Bonus information here
about the MAX FFT setting in ReaVerb:
The default MAX FFT setting in ReaVerb is: "16384".
FFT (Fast Fourier Transform) filters are a complex mathematical topic.
Changing the FFT size changes CPU usage.
A lower FFT setting means a higher CPU usage, but spread more evenly.
Higher FFT sizes will consume less CPU but result in more latency.
FFT size will therefore affect performance and possible dropouts, but it
should not affect the sound itself.
If you don't understand it, you're probably best advised to accept the default setting.
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Very thorough! Thanks so much for a great explanation!
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10-07-2014, 01:45 PM
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Thanks for spending the time to do this. The IR's sound really good; they give my PCM90 IR's a good run for sound quality.
Also appreciate the pointer on how to get Rea Verb to "see" the IR's. I had forgotten that technique.
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10-08-2014, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffsounds
Very thorough! Thanks so much for a great explanation!
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Originally Posted by Muddy Tbone
Thanks for spending the time to do this. The IR's sound really good; they give my PCM90 IR's a good run for sound quality.
Also appreciate the pointer on how to get Rea Verb to "see" the IR's. I had forgotten that technique.
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You are welcome.
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10-08-2014, 11:02 AM
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I forget, is Reaverb TRUE Stereo? Do you need TRUE Stereo impulses to make that work?
Any samples online that let you hear the difference between the two?Thanks!!
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10-08-2014, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenitynow
I forget, is Reaverb TRUE Stereo? Do you need TRUE Stereo impulses to make that work?
Any samples online that let you hear the difference between the two?Thanks!!
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No, Reaper can be setup for True Stereo Reverb but it takes a little doing.
True Stereo Reverb works best with stereo instruments such as orchestral type instruments. For regular use, Mono to Stereo (M to S) work just fine and that's the kind of files or impulses that work with Reaverb out of the box. That doesn't mean True Stereo Reverb won't work for Rock or Metal but it would take some experimenting.
In my endeavor to to understand True Stereo Reverb I started this post that might help.
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=107409
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10-08-2014, 01:40 PM
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When
I clicked the link it was to a page that I had already bookmarked...I would have looked first but I have 1000s of bookmarks! Thanks for the info!
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10-08-2014, 01:45 PM
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Thank you Tod.
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10-11-2014, 07:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halma
HPF = High Pass Filter
LPF = Low Pass Filter
Actually there are some kind of concepts in setting up a virtual stage but in the end it is your experience that counts. The more you try the more you "save" in your head.
One concept would be setting up one reverb as a send with three different receive channels with at least two of them delayed. Think about it like a manual pre-delay setup. Predelay is the time the signal needs to travel through space and to bounce back from the walls for the very first time and travels back to the listener. So the longer the pre-delay time the bigger the distance and the bigger the room. Now with three different pre-delay time values you can create a virtual stage where instruments are either more near a reflecting surface or not.
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Wow... great concept. First time i ear about it. Will have to give it a try.
I usually do the Hall, room, plate thing. Hall provides the sound at the end of the virtual stage, the room is the width and the plate is the tail. With those 3 i can adress almost every track and put them in the same "room" depending on what they need.
Thanks for the impulses by the way. Will try them on my next mix.
Would you say they are more lofi/grainy/retro then the Bricasti ones ?
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10-23-2014, 08:16 AM
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Does Reaverb process True Stereo? And does one need TS IRs or would regular IRs work to make tS? thanks!!
If reaverb doesn't do TS are there any free ones that do?
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10-23-2014, 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenitynow
Does Reaverb process True Stereo? And does one need TS IRs or would regular IRs work to make tS? thanks!!
If reaverb doesn't do TS are there any free ones that do?
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I don't think it does, but there is a track template floating around that uses 2 instances of ReaVerb and stereo IR's that are split into left and right. I'll look for it and post it here. But there is still elements missing with any true stereo convolution since the ir's are still static, there is not movement that should be there in a real space. I finally moved away from convolution and use good algo plugins now (just my preferences).
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10-23-2014, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMM
These are latency/processing options in ReaVerb.
" ZL " = Use this option to enable zero latency: useful when tracking to monitor reverb levels.
" LL " = Use this option to use an extra thread to improve low latency performance.
I find that keeping these both checked (at all times) helps to
prevent audio/reverb processing problems for some computers.
Here is an example of a conversation that took place regarding this:
Note: I recommend keeping both "ZL" and "LL" checked as standard practice.
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Bonus information here
about the MAX FFT setting in ReaVerb:
The default MAX FFT setting in ReaVerb is: "16384".
FFT (Fast Fourier Transform) filters are a complex mathematical topic.
Changing the FFT size changes CPU usage.
A lower FFT setting means a higher CPU usage, but spread more evenly.
Higher FFT sizes will consume less CPU but result in more latency.
FFT size will therefore affect performance and possible dropouts, but it
should not affect the sound itself.
If you don't understand it, you're probably best advised to accept the default setting.
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Thats good to know about reaverb.
That said, reverberate LE is free, zero latency by default, has built in EQ, modulation and the ability to manipulate the IR file. IMO It is the best free convolution verb.
http://www.liquidsonics.com/software_reverberate_le.htm
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10-23-2014, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Magicbuss
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If you can find the Computer Magazine version of Reverberate, it is also free and has a few more features than the LE version. But either is awesome for free, indeed!
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10-23-2014, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Falcon
One trick I've picked up is to place an EQ right after the reverb plugin insert. As I recall some of the most famous reverbs use a HPF around 500 Hz and an LPF around 8kHz.
Might want to vary the EQ based on the progam material.
I've also heard about people putting a compressor as an insert after the reverb but not tried it myself.
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There are a million ways to process reverbs or any aux send effect.
I put readelay in front of most of my verbs set for some multiple of the project tempo. The pre-delay is usually a 64th or 32nd beat. Its easier and faster (especially if its setup as a template) then determining the delay time in ms from the bpm.
If the verb doesnt have built in EQ I add reaEQ with a lp/hp filter engaged. It can come before or after the verb. Experiment with both. There is no verb made that doesnt sound better filtered to sit in the mix. You definitely dont want anything below 200hz (and usually higher) in your verb and typically anything over 10k (usually alot lower) is going to wash out the high end.
On vocal reverbs I might put a de-eser in front. On drum reverbs I might put a compressor after.
I sometimes add modulation or distortion post reverb. Lots of ways to mangle this stuff and it all works with delay sends as well.
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11-29-2014, 09:47 AM
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Is Reaverb as full featured as other FREE IR players? Is there any reason to use any other besides Reaverb?
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11-29-2014, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenitynow
Is Reaverb as full featured as other FREE IR players? Is there any reason to use any other besides Reaverb?
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I cannot speak for other convolution reverb plugins.
I have tried demos for many of them.
I can tell you that I use ReaVerb exclusively.
You can do many things with ReaVerb.... I always get professional results.
ReaVerb is an excellent plugin (in my opinion). I'm very happy with it.
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12-15-2014, 05:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicbuss
There are a million ways to process reverbs or any aux send effect.
I put readelay in front of most of my verbs ......
I sometimes add modulation or distortion post reverb. Lots of ways to mangle this stuff and it all works with delay sends as well.
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My brain is reverberating from trying to process all that before opening up a project to try it. I have used similar adjustments with filters but the rest is doooing dooing boing boing boing my hea....ad ed ed in in in in in in in shudder udder er r.
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12-15-2014, 11:53 AM
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Thanks for posting these!
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Much appreciated indeed, thank you
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02-26-2015, 04:05 PM
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#142
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Thank you for the IR's.V3. They are very good.
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08-05-2015, 11:03 AM
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Saw & spaced long ago. Now very helpful!
Thank-you for the timely Update.
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11-21-2015, 07:33 AM
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Wow!! Thank you very very much! They are amazing!
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11-21-2015, 10:10 AM
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Must add my thanks again as just now getting time to work with these fine IR files. Read thru many posts but need to ask: How many of the VS8F files can be loaded and retained in ReaVerb?
Where is the preferred long-term Location for the four (4) Folders ?
When I select VS8F-1 and the first wav file, I get a dropdown menu showing all wav files in that Folder. Added other three (3) Folders, and ALL 3 appear in dropdowns when selected. Is this an 'intended' method of previewing?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sostenuto
Must add my thanks again as just now getting time to work with these fine IR files. Read thru many posts but need to ask: How many of the VS8F files can be loaded and retained in ReaVerb?
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I know that you can add many files at once into one instance of ReaVerb.
I do not know if there is a limit, but, I personally only use one IR file per instance.
If I want to use more than one IR file, then, I will use additional instances of ReaVerb.
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Where is the preferred long-term Location for the four (4) Folders ?
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You can select, use, and arrange any folder in your computer for
the IR file location as you desire. It is just a matter of personal preference.
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Originally Posted by sostenuto
When I select VS8F-1 and the first wav file, I get a dropdown menu showing all wav files in that Folder. Added other three (3) Folders, and ALL 3 appear in dropdowns when selected. Is this an 'intended' method of previewing?
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There is no "intended" method of previewing. I do recommend that
you put all of the IR files into one folder and title it "VS8F IR files".
This way, you can access all of the IR files in one place (one folder location) for easy access.
The VS8F-1 files are numbered 100-118.
The VS8F-2 files are numbered 200-218 and 220-238.
The VS8F-3 files are numbered 301-318.
In other words:
VS8F-1 = 100s
VS8F-2 = 200s
VS8F-3 = 300s
If you put all of the IR files into one folder,
the numbers (in their name) should keep them organized.
Or, you can use three or four folders if you desire.
It is all a matter of personal preference in relation to your desired workflow.
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Got it bro.. thanks so much
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Originally Posted by Ahmonster
Got it.. Thanks so much
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You are welcome.
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03-20-2017, 04:54 AM
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Hey, I've used these for a few years now, the "RoomAmb" ones are my go-to IRs for close room effects, love the rest of them too. Thanks!
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03-21-2017, 05:22 AM
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thanks!
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03-23-2017, 07:59 AM
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Yamaha SPX90ii impulses
In case it's of interest I've just created an impulse pack for the Yamaha SPX90ii with over 1100 impulses across all verbs and ERs
More info at impulse.surefyre.com
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by Surefyre
In case it's of interest I've just created an impulse pack for the Yamaha SPX90ii with over 1100 impulses across all verbs and ERs
More info at impulse.surefyre.com
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WHERE, WHERE?
I would definitely be interested!!
oops just saw ur webpage....
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04-01-2017, 03:36 PM
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Thx. This is nice ingredients !Nice.
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08-11-2017, 07:41 AM
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Thanks for these amazing samples!
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Thx. This is nice ingredients !Nice.
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Originally Posted by Rangler
Thanks for these amazing samples!
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You are welcome.
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Could this be added to reapack?
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08-26-2017, 08:03 PM
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Could this be added to reapack?
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I cannot answer that question.
Side note:
Create one folder in the computer and
title that folder "VS8F Reverb IR files".
Add the entire collection of VS8F Reverb IR files into
that one folder for easy access.
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09-26-2017, 03:15 PM
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Thanks a mill
This is great as for some reason I've always loved the Reverb1 on the VSF8-2 on my VS-2480 and really struggled to find anything similar when I moved over to mixing in Reaper years back. I've started using the VS2480 for recording again so it's great to be able to mix in the reverb during the mix. I use SIR (the free version) and find it a lot easier than Reaverb, which I've never gotten my head around. Thanks again.
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09-26-2017, 03:33 PM
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These are great imo, I use them by far the most esp VS8F-1 Kick, Snare, Vocal Room and Medium Room IR's.
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09-26-2017, 03:50 PM
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Quote:
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These are great imo, I use them by far the most esp VS8F-1 Kick, Snare, Vocal Room and Medium Room IR's.
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Yeah, SMM did good with these, one of my favorites is "212-R1_SoftAmb" on snare, it often adds a real nice touch to the snare.
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