5 :)

[todd_r]

I know talk of 5 gets on peoples nerves, but I cant help it lol.

From ask JF

Question: Without being specific, any big surprises or significant new features lined up in Reaper 5? [permalink]
Asked by Mick (27.127.192.x) on October 30 2014, 3:18am
Reply on October 30 2014, 11:12pm:
Everything's still up in the air, various things are being worked on (and if you snoop around you will find things mentioning them), but what we end up doing is anybody's guess.

So I've attempted snooping around and can't really find anything, any ideas anyone?

[bob]

We still have 4.8 and 4.9 to go before 5?

[plamuk]

So I've attempted snooping around and can't really find anything, any ideas anyone?

i saw some cool video filter stuff being done on one of J's websites. video is certainly not high on my FR radar but TBH i look more to 3rd party devs for my requests these days.

[Xenakios]

Originally Posted by bob

We still have 4.8 and 4.9 to go before 5?

Why would that be so?

[plamuk]

...not again...

[todd_r]

Originally Posted by nym

i saw some cool video filter stuff being done on one of J's websites. video is certainly not high on my FR radar but TBH i look more to 3rd party devs for my requests these days.

Yeah, I did see that. And yeah, me too with Playtime at least.

Originally Posted by bob

We still have 4.8 and 4.9 to go before 5?

Not usually.

Originally Posted by Xenakios

Why would that be so?

Originally Posted by nym

...not again...

Lol

[nofish]

This is the only hint about R5 I've seen dropped by the devs so far.

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...46&postcount=5

[TimU]

Originally Posted by nofish

This is the only hint about R5 I've seen dropped by the devs so far.

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...46&postcount=5

YES been wondering if this was ever going to happen, it'll be great to be able to change buffer size and have the same automation values

[Coachz]

I heard audio is being dropped for 100% midi :-)

[PitchSlap]

With an additional developer added and the recent pace of updates slowing to a crawl (i.e similar to most other companies) it's obvious things are in the works. The only question is whether we'll see R5 alpha by Christmas...

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by nym

i saw some cool video filter stuff being done on one of J's websites. video is certainly not high on my FR radar but TBH i look more to 3rd party devs for my requests these days.

after having to use premiere last few days and put up with archaic clunky crap in all video programs I would welcome even just adding crossfades and open ended video effects into reaper.

if I could edit video on reaper as fast and powerfully as I can audio, I'd be a happy man for sure!

[Mercado_Negro]

It's been almost four years since that glorious December 1st...

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by Mercado_Negro

It's been almost four years since that glorious December 1st...

wow..when you put it like that

didn't seem that long ago

[nonobvious]

Originally Posted by nofish

This is the only hint about R5 I've seen dropped by the devs so far.

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...46&postcount=5

oooh :-)

[nofish]

Originally Posted by Coachz

I heard audio is being dropped for 100% midi :-)

It's been long overdue.

(seriously though, let's not turn this into a audio vs. MIDI fight )

[heda]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

after having to use premiere last few days and put up with archaic clunky crap in all video programs I would welcome even just adding crossfades and open ended video effects into reaper.

if I could edit video on reaper as fast and powerfully as I can audio, I'd be a happy man for sure!

I know your pain, you go to any video editor and search for the actions window... arggggghhhhh! That's the worst part about Reaper. when you have to use other software and you can't customize it the way Reaper does.

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by heda

I know your pain, you go to any video editor and search for the actions window... arggggghhhhh! That's the worst part about Reaper. when you have to use other software and you can't customize it the way Reaper does.

indeed Check out justin's youtube channel though for some super promising reaper goodies if he decides to keep them in, which I really hope he does!

[Evan]

Originally Posted by nofish

(seriously though, let's not turn this into a audio vs. MIDI fight )

Let's not... the fight has been done before and MIDI has clearly won.... so...

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

Check out justin's youtube channel though for some super promising reaper goodies if he decides to keep them in, which I really hope he does!

Hmmm, links? What kind of goodies?

[Sexan]

My body is ready!

[nofish]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Hmmm, links? What kind of goodies?

This ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qwCDkvLj0g

[gofer]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Hmmm, links? What kind of goodies?

I guess they mean the stuff recently posted on Justins blog. http://www.blorp.com/.

OH!! I didn't see he's posted some more vids on the u-tube, too thanks, nofish

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Hmmm, links? What kind of goodies?

You have to get to it through Justin's twitter links if I remember as it's an unlisted youtube vid. have a search Justin Frankel twitter and that should do it.

It seems to show things like video crossfades, colour correction and video effects.

All done on h264 1080p footage too. Awesome!

[EvilDragon]

Meh, I could care less about video in Reaper... :/


Automation clips, better volume envelope scaling, where art thou?

[gembez]

Video editing would sure be nice to have, but not instead of ARA, Ataak, VST3, improved automation, better envelopes, PIP, etc. Not a top priority for me, at least.

[BenK-msx]

filters and stuff are nice but please allow
* live video capture into reaper direct *

many benefits of immediate, sync'd (to audio) video on the timeline and pretty easy, seeing as a tiny 3rd party util can capture and reaper can encode re-encode decode all kind of things..

dragging files from an sd card etc and aligning kills the flow.

[gembez]

Originally Posted by nofish

This ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qwCDkvLj0g

See, another reason to implement Ataak! What's the point of having video if the timing is all over the place?! ;-P

[gofer]

I just enjoy to see Justin having fun, experimenting free style. If that also involves coding some stuff he wants to use into his Reaper branch, then the better. Let it flow

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Meh, I could care less about video in Reaper... :/


Automation clips, better volume envelope scaling, where art thou?

I'm sure some of that is coming too but even basic editing in reaper would massively help the ones here who work with media a lot and that number is growing all the time and it might be stuff everyone here will be thankful for at some point

I'm not suggesting Justin makes reaper into a fully fledged video editor but..

..if he did it wouldn't take much to crap all over every other editor out there in terms of how fast reaper is for editing.

I would pay a lot of money if reaper could be used for prototyping game mechanics demo vids instead of the usual 3 suspects. It would be far less painful!

I'd pay serious money just to put my middle finger up to those 3 horribly anciently designed programs (in terms of editing)

[Fergler]

I hope video editing features are not added until existing bugs + greatly desired audio features are dealt with first. REAPER stands for Rapid Environment for Audio Production, Engineering, and Recording. Video is not mentioned. Sure it would be great to have basic video items w/ crossfades etc, but there are way more important things relevant to REAPER's main purpose first.

[Argitoth]

Originally Posted by Fergler

I hope video editing features are not added until existing bugs + greatly desired audio features are dealt with first. REAPER stands for Rapid Environment for Audio Production, Engineering, and Recording. Video is not mentioned. Sure it would be great to have basic video items w/ crossfades etc, but there are way more important things relevant to REAPER's main purpose first.

if more advanced video is coming to REAPER, it looks like it will be via JSFX, so by definition what you are saying will remain true even if REAPER becomes to best video manipulation software ever made (if it remains through JSFX). So don't worry! (Only worry if Justin decides to never update anything except JSFX).

[Subz]

who remembers the native groove support that sneaked in to a few R4 Alphas?

i'm sure R5 is getting alot of focus right about now!

i wont be upgrading!

unless it opens my old Reaper 4 projects! then i will buy it! :lol:

[Argitoth]

Originally Posted by Subz

i wont be upgrading!

unless it opens my old Reaper 4 projects! then i will buy it! :lol:

REAPER has always been backwards compatible.

[todd_r]

I thought since Jeffos was hired by cockos, some of the SWS stuff might be integrated/further developed.

Looks like he's keen on getting non linear functionality into Reaper though, which is good, maybe just through Playtime though

http://www.askjf.com/index.php?q=2981s

[musicbynumbers]

Originally Posted by todd_r

I thought since Jeffos was hired by cockos, some of the SWS stuff might be integrated/further developed.

Looks like he's keen on getting non linear functionality into Reaper though, which is good, maybe just through Playtime though

http://www.askjf.com/index.php?q=2981s

Good to hear. I'm sure I can find uses for it and I know a lot of ableton users who would love to see it too!

[axel_ef]

the forum needs a 'auto delete all threads about Reaper 5' function

or

the type of "Reaper 5" on the keyboard should start the command 'format c:'

[timothys_monster]

Originally Posted by Fergler

I hope video editing features are not added until existing bugs + greatly desired audio features are dealt with first. REAPER stands for Rapid Environment for Audio Production, Engineering, and Recording. Video is not mentioned. Sure it would be great to have basic video items w/ crossfades etc, but there are way more important things relevant to REAPER's main purpose first.

At least I want my videos to be played synchronously with additional audio tracks. Didn't get it to work, not even with the tips from Airon's signature.

Post production for video was horrible for me when I tried it with Reaper. I always had to import only the audio track from the video file

[airon]

Yep, that's the best thing to do.

Keep audio and video separate. For OSX users this may, perhaps, at some point change as the grapevine suggests there's the possiblity of the OSX version being able to use AV Foundation.

No idea when or if it indeed is going to happen right now or in ten pick-your-unit.

If you need some more or have questions, pm me, or ask them in the video thread AND pm me. I might miss it for some time if you don't.


EDIT: @Cockos, the request still stands.

Its main purpose was to facilitate huge timesavings by having Reaper build a loudness curve across a mix and to highlight potential problem areas where one goes outside a clients specification, such as going above a short-term loudness value relative to the integrated loudness of the whole mix.

[DuX]

If you want your video to work properly, the best way is to transcode video into DV format with WAV audio before importing it into Reaper, or any other [possibly light on CPU] video format that supports *all* keyframes [not just every 25/24/30 frames or x seconds]. Keyframes are the key to perfect sync. Frames in between keyframes [usually labelled with "I"] just confuse even video apps, not just Reaper as only rare apps support cutting video on frames other then keyframes. So transcoding it is also beneficial for video editing.

Then later on, export your audio and "mux" [interlace? mix? If you're not acquainted with video terms ] it with the original video in an app of your choice.

I've been working with video files and Reaper this way since v3. Sometimes there's no need to transcode it, usually if video is MPEG-2 or 4, but audio can also be problematic, so it's best that the audio is in WAV format.

I use free VirtualDub app to extract audio to WAV and to transcode it into DV or MPEG-2 and to mux the audio with video afterward. Beautiful, simple to work with app and rather powerful. No installation needed and portable, too. www.virtualdub.org

Cheers!

[timothys_monster]

Thanks airon and DuX!

I'm gonna try that one for future projects:

Originally Posted by DuX

If you want your video to work properly, the best way is to transcode video into DV format with WAV audio before importing it into Reaper, or any other [possibly light on CPU] video format that supports *all* keyframes [not just every 25/24/30 frames or x seconds].

Now my question: What exactly are keyframes in a video format? I just know them in case of automating video effects... How can I be sure that the certain codec will support all keyframes?