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Old 04-06-2015, 07:53 PM   #1
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Default I tested Reaper a lot after Fl Studio, Ableton and here are conclusions

Hi. I used my brain to analyse what is missing in REAPER to improve workflow and reapair workflow after experience with daws like fl studio, ableton live etc. I have years of experience in daws so my points should be very important and probably most helpfull for everyone. I have some innovative ideas too. Most of things probably easy to do and can improve workflow and make things faster as they should be.






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Chain functions for vst - setting piano roll area for each vst missing / Chain functions - setting multiple selected vsts in chain parameters missing/ multiple selected vst - automation missing /reasamplomatic processed audio support from playlist missing /vst list configuration missing:

I sniffed ripper around. Most frustrating ? 1. No setting area of piano roll for specific vst *instruments on chain. There should be something which divide the piano roll area for each plugin on chain - like C0-C9 area selector for each. It's easy to do near vst output setting .Just some option on each vst like JS MIDI FILTER have but for each plugin on chain. This is always most irrating to cant set areas of piano roll for each vst on chain. 2. Chain fx again. No setting options for multiple selected plugins in chain at once. Cant set for example automations for each selected vst in chain even when plugins are selected always it's a matter of one plugin not all selected. No multiple selected plugins automation bypass - or even whole track plugins bypass. Same with output for plugins on chain - when they selected always setting is output for only one plugin not for selected. 3 Drums. Reasamplomatic - It should support edited audio material from arrange window but now it always importing original - this should be done without mess on hard drive with tons of audio files on hard drive after reaper is not using. Edited files shold be recreated when reaper is loading project or other magic. Another what is missing is to import each selected item (audio) for new created instance of reasamplomatic with automatically seted +1 halftone place on piano roll. Reasamplomatic again - problem nr2 solwing this problem with rea - setting multiple instance of reasamplomatic parameters. 4 VST select customization - there should be subfolders and options for rearrange folders on vst select area - by letter and option for replace order of folders on vst select by dragging mouse or pressing buttons on keyboard. 5. No automation grouping and something for smart MULTIPLE usnused plugins disabling - easier. 6 I cant delete notes with right click of mouse in piano roll XD . 6 is joke. Other is very serious problems mostly 1,2,4






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Hint bar for last tweaked parameter of vst (cause creating sounds with many synths like synth1 in reaper is almost impossible - knobs values should be displayed in one hint bar while editing them - somewhere in some extra option window - dockable maybe hint bar - thing like in fl studio)


There should be something which quickly display values of synths(as option) for example synth 1 lfo speed - like fl studio hint bar which display last used knob value in synths like synth1 frequency/speed etc.. Without it is almost impossible to create new sounds perfectly with plugins like synth 1 in reaper cause these dont have display of their values. Using synth1 with reaper ui (where parameters is displayed) is hell. Without last tweaked value hint bar creating sounds with many synths almost impossible or unhandy. For example values like (lfo speed 1+2/4/8/16/ etc, frequency band - 45hz/76hz/195hz etc)






III

No editing of plugins knobs values in piano roll:

frustration king nr 3 or 4 - no editing of vst knobs parameters in piano roll midi editor. (midi event area unusable for plugins parameters) but this i shortcuted with ANOTHER PLUGIN WHICH change midi to knob param signal but not too handy anyway works. Problem with this is that no option to rename this midi value at first place.




IV

No rearranging folders in media explorer ?
No SF2 files to preview in browser ? (sfz nice too) They just free replacments for NI Kontakt files.

Frustration king nr 4 or 5 + 6 - Nor rearranging shortcuts to folders of samples in media explorer so it always need to be rebuilded from nothing after adding new sections in sample base. Just moving folders up/down and end begin could make things easies at least like in plugins custom folders. Little one frustration ? - no preview of sound font files (sf2) in media explorer.







V

No loading dragged audio on fx bowser - automatically into reasamplomatic.
No loading dragged sound automatically on piano roll keys into reasamplomatic.
No creating slices automatically and creating series of instances of reasamplomatic for next keys for each slice for piano roll.
No smart way to add another instance of reasamplomatic quickly for next key - auto detect what is key range for previous reasamplomatic in chain while duplicating ?
No DRAGGIN vst on piano roll key - for automatically set area of notes for this vst (my idea for plugins areas on chain comes back again) name of this vst preset on key automatically - nice too.



Last probably big issue in reaper. In all daws draging audio files creates coresponding sample place on piano roll. FL studio/ Ableton - fast and easy.There should be something like this- copying sound on piano roll note should create coresponding reasamplomatic instance with this sound and this key should rename automatically as reasamplomatic instance new sound. Creating reasamplomatic instances and draggin them and setting each piano roll area for each sound on it is slow and not much creative especially in matter of using samples as creative layering form easy....Same with sounds. Sounds copied on fx area should be automatically loaded in reasamplomatic or sliced in rea samplomatic instances




VI

Little issues:

No fast renaming track as vst preset name is. In fl studio is little arrow on each vst instrument/effect - when i trigger this arrow whole channnel is renamed as plugin preset name is. That could be good for tracks in Reaper. Little thing which triggered rename track as plugin preset name is. Very nice for saving time.


No deleting notes in piano roll with right mouse of button - option XD

No option to input automatically sound into reasamplomatic on selected track (on browser - media explorer) and slice this sound on selected channel in reasamplomatic instances ( on browser - media explorer) So missing two options on media explorer for sound files.




Thats all.



ALL OTHER THINGS IN REAPER is ALLRIGHTy- just matter of taste but things which i written up - are things that missing or just should be repaired - quickly i guess.

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Old 04-06-2015, 08:25 PM   #2
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This should be easier for people to read. My comments below:

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I. Chain functions for vst - setting piano roll area for each vst missing
Chain functions - setting multiple selected vsts in chain parameters missing
multiple selected vst
automation missing
reasamplomatic processed audio support from playlist missing
vst list configuration missing:

I sniffed REAPER around. Most frustrating ?

1. No setting area of piano roll for specific vst *instruments on chain. There should be something which divide the piano roll area for each plugin on chain - like C0-C9 area selector for each. It's easy to do near vst output setting. Just some option on each vst like JS MIDI FILTER have but for each plugin on chain.

This is always most irrating to cant set areas of piano roll for each vst on chain.

2. Chain fx again. No setting options for multiple selected plugins in chain at once. Cant set for example automations for each selected vst in chain even when plugins are selected always it's a matter of one plugin not all selected.

No multiple selected plugins automation bypass - or even whole track plugins bypass.

Same with output for plugins on chain - when they selected always setting is output for only one plugin not for selected.

3 Drums. Reasamplomatic - It should support edited audio material from arrange window but now it always importing original - this should be done without mess on hard drive with tons of audio files on hard drive after reaper is not using.

Edited files shold be recreated when reaper is loading project or other magic. Another what is missing is to import each selected item (audio) for new created instance of reasamplomatic with automatically seted +1 halftone place on piano roll. Reasamplomatic again - problem nr2 solwing this problem with rea - setting multiple instance of reasamplomatic parameters. 4 VST select customization - there should be subfolders and options for rearrange folders on vst select area - by letter and option for replace order of folders on vst select by dragging mouse or pressing buttons on keyboard.

5. No automation grouping and something for smart MULTIPLE usnused plugins disabling - easier.

6 I cant delete notes with right click of mouse in piano roll XD.


II

Hint bar for last tweaked parameter of vst (cause creating sounds with many synths like synth1 in reaper is almost impossible - knobs values should be displayed in one hint bar while editing them - somewhere in some extra option window - dockable maybe hint bar - thing like in fl studio)


There should be something which quickly display values of synths(as option) for example synth 1 lfo speed - like fl studio hint bar which display last used knob value in synths like synth1 frequency/speed etc.. Without it is almost impossible to create new sounds perfectly with plugins like synth 1 in reaper cause these dont have display of their values. Using synth1 with reaper ui (where parameters is displayed) is hell. Without last tweaked value hint bar creating sounds with many synths almost impossible or unhandy. For example values like (lfo speed 1+2/4/8/16/ etc, frequency band - 45hz/76hz/195hz etc)


III

No editing of plugins knobs values in piano roll:

frustration king nr 3 or 4 - no editing of vst knobs parameters in piano roll midi editor. (midi event area unusable for plugins parameters) but this i shortcuted with ANOTHER PLUGIN WHICH change midi to knob param signal but not too handy anyway works. Problem with this is that no option to rename this midi value at first place.


IV

No rearranging folders in media explorer ?
No SF2 files to preview in browser ? (sfz nice too) They just free replacments for NI Kontakt files.

Frustration king nr 4 or 5 + 6 - Nor rearranging shortcuts to folders of samples in media explorer so it always need to be rebuilded from nothing after adding new sections in sample base. Just moving folders up/down and end begin could make things easies at least like in plugins custom folders. Little one frustration ? - no preview of sound font files (sf2) in media explorer.


V

No loading dragged audio on fx bowser - automatically into reasamplomatic.
No loading dragged sound automatically on piano roll keys into reasamplomatic.
No creating slices automatically and creating series of instances of reasamplomatic for next keys for each slice for piano roll.
No smart way to add another instance of reasamplomatic quickly for next key - auto detect what is key range for previous reasamplomatic in chain while duplicating ?
No DRAGGIN vst on piano roll key - for automatically set area of notes for this vst (my idea for plugins areas on chain comes back again) name of this vst preset on key automatically - nice too.

Last probably big issue in reaper. In all daws draging audio files creates coresponding sample place on piano roll. FL studio/ Ableton - fast and easy. There should be something like this- copying sound on piano roll note should create coresponding reasamplomatic instance with this sound and this key should rename automatically as reasamplomatic instance new sound. Creating reasamplomatic instances and draggin them and setting each piano roll area for each sound on it is slow and not much creative especially in matter of using samples as creative layering form easy....

Same with sounds. Sounds copied on fx area should be automatically loaded in reasamplomatic or sliced in rea samplomatic instances


VI

Little issues:

No fast renaming track as vst preset name is. In fl studio is little arrow on each vst instrument/effect - when i trigger this arrow whole channnel is renamed as plugin preset name is. That could be good for tracks in Reaper. Little thing which triggered rename track as plugin preset name is. Very nice for saving time.


No deleting notes in piano roll with right mouse of button - option XD

No option to input automatically sound into reasamplomatic on selected track (on browser - media explorer) and slice this sound on selected channel in reasamplomatic instances ( on browser - media explorer) So missing two options on media explorer for sound files.

Thats all.
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Old 04-06-2015, 08:54 PM   #3
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Woooow I multi-quoted and replied to each one of those things and the post character count was too high, but the error window closed and I lost everything.

FFS.

Long story short, half of what you want is already possible, the other half are nice ideas, but please spend more time cleaning up you writing. Even if English isn't your first language, you can obviously see that your writing is messy and rushed and full of basic structural problems you wouldn't do in your native language (such as using paragraphs...).
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Old 04-06-2015, 09:44 PM   #4
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Sniffing is not enough to know REAPER. It is clear that you other DAW experience is too fresh in mind to let you understand 'how we do' in REAPER. You can't expect REAPER to be an all DAW replacement, with every feature or FL, Logic Cubade or whatsoever. We almost all use/used other DAW, you are not the exception.
Don't forget that one of the most valuable REAPER ressource is the community.
So many 'how to' request is way to high for a first forum post. You should first read the manual, and then asked other people before pasting all this. you would have a lot of answer for the majority of your FR.

Remember that we are all here 'humans beeing with feelings'.
So many FR an no positive comment... It's a bit hard for the devs who worked on this (Sometimes since than 10 years), don't you think ?
Take your time to discover the software and to discuss with others (this also means: structure your posts with colors etc). Keep in mind that every DAW has it's own philosophy and that you can't expect REAPER to mimic all of them, as you can't expect all of them to mimic REAPER.

Anyway, participation is something appreciated here. But keep it concise, and take the time to find infos first if you want to be listen :P
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:47 AM   #5
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Yeah THX for responds.

I written these points very quickly so thats way is there many language problems. I didnt have English in any school in past either i learned it from games and movies.


I'm not fresh in makin music - wrong. I have strong knowledge of mixing and mastering. I have very creative workflow with music and always using fast possible and creative solution for everything - Reaper blocking this creativity and fast workflow at some points - very important points.



Anyway i'm still pretty sure some of my points are necessary must to do in Reaper cause without these is simply stupid to use other daws only from these reasons but at the same time necessary to stay creative in fast workflow. I'm sure lot of people talked about some of these in past and many of them agree.


Two of points which i mentioned in previous post are absolutley necessary to repair Reaper workflow. Here they are:





Especially - hint bar with last tweaked param values cause working with lot of plugins without display of real knobs values in this plugins - is slow, unhandy and unperfect and most of the time impossible. Creating sounds with synths like - Synth1 and many other similiar without display what is actuall value of last used knob is slow and uncreative and that thing is 100% sure - in REAPER creating sounds in many plugins from this reason is mess in my opinion. Changing DAW for daws with HINT BAR - only for possibility to quick creating new sounds in many vst synthesizers is joke.


Second - divide PIANO ROLL AREA for each vst on chain. Creating new channel with js midi filter only cause in REAPER is no setting specific area for piano roll for each vst on chain is pretty i dont know stupid i guess cause that thing could be just done in second for each vst instead of creating new track/out and setting midi filter area for each and again creating piano roll note names cause that - it's mess and takin long time. One option for vst on chain and lot of mess disaphear. Especially when dragging vst on piano roll note creating this vst preset name on note and giving piano roll area for vst automatically this was never in any daw and could reapair/heall this daw more than other. One second and ready - name for note, area for vst on midi piano roll and vst is on chain - one second.



Reaper is good and i'm pretty sure without things i wroten in previous post is possible to stay creative but without these two points - using Reaper in many aspects is hell and i'm pretty sure - these two things are really simple and opening a lot of doors to stay creative and fast in workflow and really necessary this is not some like caprice - rather a noticing some big holes in main workflow. These a two way to reapir reaper workflow. Other points i would say are just upgrade speed workflow things but these two - are rather repair things for intuitive workflow.



Situations for hint bar are obvius - manipulating knobs with displayed values of last twwaked param in hint bar allow create perfect - bASS, Pads, keys, organs, fx and lot of other sounds with synthesizers like synth1 where is no display of knobs values - only hint bar solving this problem.


Situation for each vst piano roll area - creating layers with group of synth for specified piano roll areas - fast and easy. Easy creating new variations of previous copy of vst for another notes. Hundreds of possibilities in one second instead of making messy routing thing for that.

Thx for attention and consider this two. These will help a thousands of users. Thats sure. My IQ is 143 so i know what i talkin about. Enjoy.

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Old 04-08-2015, 08:25 AM   #6
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With all due respect...

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Especially - hint bar with last tweaked param values cause working with lot of plugins without display of real knobs values in this plugins - is slow, unhandy and unperfect and most of the time impossible. Creating sounds with synths like - Synth1 and many other similiar without display what is actuall value of last used knob is slow and uncreative and that thing is 100% sure - in REAPER creating sounds in many plugins from this reason is mess in my opinion. Changing DAW for daws with HINT BAR - only for possibility to quick creating new sounds in many vst synthesizers is joke.
This is the plugin's design. They would give you number readouts if they wanted you to know them. Contrary to what you say, 'creative' uses are more easily stimulated without worrying about numbers, and it is not at all uncommon to see synths with minimalist designs. At most, it would make sense to see a readout of the value here:



Btw, Synth1 is a bad example, it displays its values like this:



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Second - divide PIANO ROLL AREA for each vst on chain.
Yes, great idea.



Quote:
using Reaper in many aspects is hell and i'm pretty sure
Grow up.


Your feature requests are valid, if a little misguided, but your attitude is terrible. Understand the difference between a DAW with 100s of staff at a large, multiproduct company and REAPER, a DAW with 2-3 developers at a time and an entirely different structure. And all that they have done for $60. Simply incredible.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:48 AM   #7
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OK. Sry for my attitiude.

Yes very amazing job for that amount of team - better to have 2-3 geniusses than 100 untallented jerks.
Sometimes i think too simples and perfect ideas are better but until some things wont be done reaper wont be repaired...


Yeah this place as hint bar in reaper menu is nice idea -perfect. http://puu.sh/h68BS/22b466b370.jpg

Yeah. Piano roll areas for vst solving most commong problems. Other stuff is ok - matter of taste but i would lie if would to write all things still ok - i introduced these up...but for a while is possible to live with them (maybe) but these twoo hint bar and no piano roll area for vst and reasamplomatic dragged on piano roll keys makin most things too much time absorbing and in effect i just back to other daws...so this is bad thing.


I'm sure dragging sounds and vst on piano roll notes and naming these notes as vst presets/sounds name will heal workflow totally and simplifie many things as they should and it's still easy to do from programming perspective.... Sounds ofcourse loaded into reasamplomatic (automatically) with range specified by sound dragged on note which we drag on piano roll should be done to. Same with vst. This will heal workflow

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Ok it looks like all this mess which i introduce at top is history. There is my new opinion after lot of experience and meet a power of REAPER software:

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.p...43#post1632643
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