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04-27-2015, 10:42 PM
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TBProAudio releases dpMeter - Free Digital Precision Meter Plugin for Windows and Mac
TBProAudio releases dpMeter, a precise digital audio multi channel meter including RMS, EBUR128 and TruePeak measurement.
dpMeter offers following features:
- click-free 64-bit internal processing
- 2 measurement modes: RMS/EBU R128
- multi channel metering: 2-6 RMS channels, 2.0 stereo, 4.0, 4.1 and 5.1 surround
- RMS: integrated, momentary, peak and true peak
- EBU R128: integrated, momentary, short term, true pack and loudness range
- true peak measurement based on ITU 1770
- continuous/synced measurement
- record metering results as automation data
- large and accurate live meters
System Requirements:
- Windows XP or newer
- Mac OS X 10.5 or newer
- Win: 32/64 Bit VST, 32/64 Bit VST3, 32 Bit RTAS
- OS X: 32/64 Bit VST, 32/64 Bit VST3, 32/64 Bit AU, 32 Bit RTAS
- Tested with: Cockos Reaper, Steinberg Cubase/Nuendo/Wavelab 6/7/8
Price: free
Last edited by TBProAudio; 04-30-2015 at 08:03 AM.
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04-28-2015, 01:37 AM
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Thank you.
What is that strange diagonal line slashing the interface and mangling the text ? Does it mean that we have the choice between 2 colorschemes or that the interface is resizeable (That's a bit weird, as it makes the screenshot unreadable) ?
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04-28-2015, 08:08 AM
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Thanks!
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04-28-2015, 08:08 AM
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Really nice freebie, thanks Thomas. I have used the EBU R128 JSFX ever since it was released, this might be a neat replacement for that one.
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04-28-2015, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sinkmusic
Thank you.
What is that strange diagonal line slashing the interface and mangling the text ? Does it mean that we have the choice between 2 colorschemes or that the interface is resizeable (That's a bit weird, as it makes the screenshot unreadable) ?
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Fixed, and yes it means two in one :-)
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04-28-2015, 09:39 AM
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Thank you !
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04-28-2015, 09:43 AM
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very fine.
what me always gets puzzled with these metering-tools is: isnt it possible, to have such meters within the master of a DAW? I mean, I always have the master on and use the meters there (after I managed to show it the same readings as my beloved bx_meter ...) and if I try another meter I have always a window flowing around. and as it is with these windows nowadays, they are always in the wrong place, so that I can see not what I want to see.
I know, I know ... but ... would be nice if one could plug the meter-readings, the screen into the master, so that the the meter would be the replacement for the master-meter.
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04-28-2015, 09:57 AM
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You had me at "free". Thanks!
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04-28-2015, 10:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whiteaxxxe
I know, I know ... but ... would be nice if one could plug the meter-readings, the screen into the master, so that the the meter would be the replacement for the master-meter.
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I agree, I have meters like this only in master and could see use for integrated meters. Which of course begs the old question, should features like this actually be optional metering views (at least in master track) and not just external plugins?
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04-28-2015, 10:13 AM
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yes, no, I dont know ...
would be nice to fire up a metering plugin and it shows up as integrated within the master.
so, I have no clue about how and if that is even possible.
but would be really nice ...
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04-29-2015, 01:29 AM
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Thank you, Thomas
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04-29-2015, 02:01 AM
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Indeed it would be a great feature to integrate the UI of the mixer with plugins. I would replace all meters with RMS or Momentary Loudness ones
Maybe with some kind of JS and themming it could be possible.. but better if it would be done nativelly.
by the way thanks for the plugin TBProAudio
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04-29-2015, 02:29 AM
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Thanks!
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04-29-2015, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xpander
Really nice freebie, thanks Thomas. I have used the EBU R128 JSFX ever since it was released, this might be a neat replacement for that one.
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yes, the EBU mode bases on the JSFX, of course a little bit more CPU friendly
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04-29-2015, 10:05 AM
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I like about the JSFX one that we can export the data to a display envelope so you have a visual representation of the loudness. I wonder if that is even possible from a VST version.
Sometimes it starts laser battles :P http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=159264
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04-29-2015, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heda
I like about the JSFX one that we can export the data to a display envelope so you have a visual representation of the loudness. I wonder if that is even possible from a VST version.
Sometimes it starts laser battles :P http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=159264
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Well yes, dpMeter is able to export RMS values as automation data: just look for "out" parameter.
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04-29-2015, 10:29 AM
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ah.. of course.. I didn't read in the description...
there is a typo RSM* in: "2 measurement modes: RSM/EBU R128"
Thanks again
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04-29-2015, 10:44 AM
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I was going to ask but I found it... the Reset button: you have to click on the meters.
one idea for next version: To be able to send resets via midi note or controller, whatever you think it is better. This way we could automate the reset loudness at some locations on the timeline.
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04-29-2015, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heda
one idea for next version: To be able to send resets via midi note or controller, whatever you think it is better. This way we could automate the reset loudness at some locations on the timeline.
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Good idea, we will consider this for one of next releases.
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04-30-2015, 07:47 PM
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Thanks for this plug!
The installer wants to install VST3 & RTAS, but I only want the VST2 .... is there a way *not* to install these? Leaving the path fields blank doesn't work. Should I just install them and delete their dll afterwards?
Thanks,
Tommy V
EDIT: (solved) ... accept the initial paths for all formats, then on the 3rd screen you can choose which formats to install.
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Last edited by Tommy V; 04-30-2015 at 07:57 PM.
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05-03-2015, 01:25 AM
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I have some problems with this plugin. It totally freezes REAPER 5pre at least.
It happens when doing Undo.
Press Undo various times. Total Freeze.
Win7 x64, VST 64 bit version
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05-03-2015, 04:46 AM
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Any specific steps to reproduce? No freezing here with pre-releases, Win8.1 x64.
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05-03-2015, 07:11 AM
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I just add a track, add the plugin, set to loudness instead of RMS. Add various items in a track or do something so that the undo does not just remove the recently added plugin. Then Press CTRL+Z various times and it freezes totally. I have to force REAPER to close. I'll try later in a clean portable install.
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05-04-2015, 11:05 PM
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here is a capture of what is happening
first without adding dpMeter, fine, then add dpMeter and Freezes when doing Undo.
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05-04-2015, 11:11 PM
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Thanks for the evaluation.
Does it happen with other plugins or is it just a dpMeter problem?
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05-04-2015, 11:24 PM
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This happened me for the first time when I installed and used dpMeter. But at first I didn't know it was dpMeter. Then I did a test in a portable clean installation adding dpMeter only and found that it was dpMeter causing it. I have only tested the x64 version. I have tested with other plugins and it doesn't happen.
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05-04-2015, 11:26 PM
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Thanks for the example heda. I've done similar tests but also with more tracks/items/dpMeter instances (with both metering options) and cannot reproduce. I can run back and forth as fast as I can with undo/redo without any problems. Win7 and Win8.1 x64, portable 4.78 and pre5 versions tested here.
Do you get any notes in the Event viewer about these freezes? Might be interesting to also view the Performance Meter while testing this? Here it shows no significant change compared to the no action state, just slight fluctuation which seems to always be there anyway.
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05-05-2015, 02:17 AM
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very strange xpander. These kind of bugs are the hardest to find.
I have also a freeze now but using the JSFX version JS: EBUR128 Loudness Measurement (TB Pro Audio) from http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=140881
I was using v1.1 of it. then I have just seen that there is v1.6. But same happens with 1.6. Only much more CPU usage!
REAPER doesn't hang until I add one instance of the JSFX or the VST version. I have tested in blank project or in a big project with many plugins and tracks. No freeze until one of the loudness plugins is added.
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05-06-2015, 05:59 AM
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for the VST version I've tried:
- save minimal undo states
- buggy compatibility mode
- separated process
- dedicated process
none seems to do anything to solve the problem.
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05-06-2015, 10:01 PM
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Thanks for testing.
Could you please post the CPU usage details?
Does it happen in 4.77/4.78 as well?
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05-06-2015, 10:42 PM
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mmm this is interesting...
In REAPER 4.77 it works well. No freeze, no crash. I can undo all the times I want.
CPU usage REAPER 4.77
dpMeter VST x64 0.4%
JSFX version 1.1 0.5%
JSFX version 1.6 5.0% (why 10x more?)
CPU usage REAPER 5.0pre27
dpMeter VST x64 0.5%
JSFX version 1.1 0.6%
JSFX version 1.6 5.1%
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05-06-2015, 11:09 PM
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Thanks for the details, nothing wrong with it :-(
JSFX version 1.1 uses less accurate TP measurement method, version 1.6 uses 4x OS + filter according EBUR128.
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05-06-2015, 11:21 PM
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I see. I was suspicious about v1.6 because both the JS 1.1 and the VST dpMeter were using more or less the same CPU. So dpMeter is precise as JS 1.6 but more CPU effective since it is VST right?
I was thinking why both a JS plugin and a VST plugin could be causing the same freeze in REAPER. Since they are in different formats, I think the bug should be in REAPER, not in the plugins. But why other plugins don't cause it? What's different in these plugins than others? I think it may be the reporting parameters "Disp" or "Out". And in REAPER 5 there may have been changes in envelopes. I've just seen that the VST3 version provides a crash instead of a freeze. Which may be easier to investigate by Cockos maybe.
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05-26-2015, 04:02 PM
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Hi TBProAudio
just to leave you a note here that as you may know, the bug mentioned in recent posts, was fixed in REAPER 5.0pre31 so it was not your fault as I expected, nothing to worry about now.
Also, about the idea of sending midi cc to reset the meter, I've discovered that if you save a preset and recall the preset, it does reset, so we can make a preset and already use REAPER midi program to change to the preset and reset. So everything is good as it is.
Just one more thing. I've noticed that there are no SL Max Out, ML Max Out, TP Out and LRA Out parameters, as there are in the JS version(_ML Max Disp, _SL Max Disp, TP Disp, LRA Disp)
It would be great to have them too so I can integrate them in my script
Thank you!
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05-26-2015, 04:12 PM
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Just curious. When/why would you use 'sync?'
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05-26-2015, 09:55 PM
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Thanks for the feedback
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Originally Posted by heda
Just one more thing. I've noticed that there are no SL Max Out, ML Max Out, TP Out and LRA Out parameters, as there are in the JS version(_ML Max Disp, _SL Max Disp, TP Disp, LRA Disp)
It would be great to have them too so I can integrate them in my script
Thank you!
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Yes, you are right, they are missing. I just saw your great project, i will add them asap.
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05-26-2015, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffsounds
Just curious. When/why would you use 'sync?'
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"Sync" syncs measurement with play status of DAW. So if "sync" is on only measurement during playback.
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05-26-2015, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TBProAudio
"Sync" syncs measurement with play status of DAW. So if "sync" is on only measurement during playback.
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OK, thanks! But if sync is off and there is no playback, there should be no measurement, no? Or am I misunderstanding something?
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05-26-2015, 10:05 PM
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Well, in "sync" mode measurement is reset with playback start, just to have "fresh" data from the beginning.
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05-26-2015, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TBProAudio
Well, in "sync" mode measurement is reset with playback start, just to have "fresh" data from the beginning.
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Ah... gotcha. Thanks! I like the meter!!!!! Any plans to do a K version?
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