Old 02-17-2017, 11:18 AM   #41
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It should mean: 'automating send via midi'. Thanks for asking.
Via CCs that you can edit in the MIDI editor, NOT via automation envelopes?
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:22 AM   #42
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Both should be possible, why you prefer CC's?
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:40 AM   #43
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I don't prefer either - I am just trying to figure out what exactly you are referring to.

Automation of send volume, mute and pan via automation envelopes is a standard feature of REAPER - does the mystery refer to anything beyond this feature?
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:51 PM   #44
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Automation of send volume ... via automation envelopes is a standard feature of REAPER - does the mystery refer to anything beyond this feature?
Yes, and how to midi map it? So you could control e.g. 32 sends, on various tracks, via your midi hardware, for example? Like in Jamaica.
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:29 PM   #45
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What I did, e.g., I have assigned one of my hardware mixer fader permanently to "Track: Set volume for selected tracks (MIDI CC/OSC only)" which controls the volume of any selected track. Later, I would just need to define whether I want touch, read, write etc. However, I have seen somewhere in the Preferences that you can also keep one of these as default behaviour.

Just for interest, I have my midi control faders permanently assigned to CC1, 7, 11 and 64 that would control all these parameters in any DAW including Reaper. Moreover, I sometimes use JS MIDI CC MAPPER to control as many parameters as I want with only one controller, say mod wheel.

Still not close?
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:47 PM   #46
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You have track selection dependency.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:39 PM   #47
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Short summary so far:
a) send control via OSC is possible (everyone knows already)
b) send control via automation is possible (well, to some degree everyone knows this already)
c) send control via external midi hardware is possible
d) send control via item cc is possible
e) send control via sidechaining is possible
f) send control via parameter modulation is possible
g) send control on multiple tracks, all in parallel, using all above options together or mixed is possible

In short, everything is possible what you might want. Nothing stops you having any of the above options. I am wondering which case is wanted mostly, and why?
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:41 PM   #48
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Wow!

Even if TonE gets hit by a bus on the way to the forum tomorrow, and is left brain dead, and we never get his revelation, I consider this one of the most fascinating threads ever to emerge outside of the lounge.

Thanks everyone.

BTW My old MIDI controller just died a week ago. (RIP)
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Old 02-17-2017, 04:14 PM   #49
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I should also say that while I'm watching this thread, I'm not overworking too many neurons/synapses trying to crack the mystery.

My guess is that it involves the ReaControlMIDI plugin.

I seem to remember linking automation to CC this way once before.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:13 PM   #50
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No, unfortunately not. Thanks for your guessing.
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Old 02-20-2017, 07:17 AM   #51
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Um-TonE,was you actually forgetting something here?


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Old 02-20-2017, 09:13 AM   #52
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Haha 😂 WALOC I think tone should stop posting useless stuff on useful parts of the website it's stuff that should be kept in the chat room it's fun but gets a bit distracting and after a while it's frustrating.. Tone do us all a favour and join Facebook you will be much happier there... Seriously 😀 can't believe this thread is still going???
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Old 02-20-2017, 09:22 AM   #53
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Oh yeah...forgot this thread. Any news TonE?
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:32 AM   #54
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:53 PM   #55
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Soon, the saga will continue...
(meanwhile let us enjoy those cat videos, thanks fish)

Is there any ready script counting the number of sends in the project? Then visitors can run that script and paste the result here, just to get an overview how many SENDS people are using, per project?

a) 0-5
b) 5-10
c) 10-20
d) 20-30
e) 30-50
f) more than 50
(actually this is a good idea for voting)

UPDATE: Poll added. http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.p...29#post1805229

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Soon, the saga will continue...
(meanwhile let us enjoy those cat videos, thanks fish)
Yes the cats have some actual entertainment value-
Not sure about the value of the thread though??
Why are you stalling to share info TonE?
It's only fair that you now share eh?
Lol-patience is a virtue yes m8,but keeping people hanging is not..
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Ok, my friend Bri1, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJX7hBIvUnI

I guess the video demonstration shows everything already. What was the trick?
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So...sending to an intermediate which in turn sends to the actual FX and automating the volume of the intermediate track, right ?

Like this, which was posted long time ago already ?

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...33&postcount=7

I knew about this workaround but didn't post, because yeah, I consider it a workaround (admittedly gets the job done but it's NOT MIDI automateable sends per se in my book).

Did you really make all the fuzz about this ?
If I missed something, please enlighten me.
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Uh.. the method I supplied is both MIDI and regular keyboard input. If you arm the automation lane and assign it to a MIDI controller you have MIDI automated sends.

LOL the big reveal was 'use a track in the middle' ???

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Ok, my friend Bri1, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJX7hBIvUnI

I guess the video demonstration shows everything already. What was the trick?
Really? ... No Really ??? .... NO REALLY ???

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOriXNj092I

God help us haha.
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So...sending to an intermediate which in turn sends to the actual FX and automating the volume of the intermediate track, right ?

Like this, which was posted long time ago already ?

http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...33&postcount=7

I knew about this workaround but didn't post, because yeah, I consider it a workaround (admittedly gets the job done but it's NOT MIDI automateable sends per se in my book).

Did you really make all the fuzz about this ?
If I missed something, please enlighten me.
It is not same, if you can not see the difference, no problem. In my video all black colored tracks are easily visible SENDS, do what you want, process further, sidechain, parameter modulate, and the result you got doing just same, creating one send.
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Uh.. the method I supplied is both MIDI and regular keyboard input. If you arm the automation lane and assign it to a MIDI controller you have MIDI automated sends.

LOL the big reveal was 'use a track in the middle' ???

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Yes, use a track in the middle which is
-child track to fx track (this is a must, if you use other methods, it is another solution)
-properly named, even you have 1000 tracks, just by looking at its name you know which fx is influencing which track, meaning understanding its effect in tcp or mcp without routings visible. Great for name based filtering views.
-the point is, the number of sends in our project did NOT change, only we shifted the send control somewhere else, increasing its control potential enormously, overcoming all Reaper limits

At least this is my favourite method now, without any disadvantages.
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Well....
Thanks for "revealing". Hope your obsession with 'automateable sends' is over, mate
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