Old 11-14-2011, 03:48 AM   #1
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I have two tracks each with a different vocal recording on them, lets call them tracks 1 and 2. Tracks 1 and 2 each have different effects on them but I would also like the 2 tracks to share an effect, (having two copies of this new effect open causes my system to crash!)The effect must also come first in the chain for both of them. If i create a track 3 as a folder with the new effect on it and place tracks 1 and 2 in it would the effect be 1st in the chain for both tracks 1 and 2????
Or should I create some sends and receives etc to achieve this??

anyone? thanks in advance
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:00 AM   #2
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The FX on the folder track would follow those on the individual tracks, as the audio is FXed on the individual tracks then Sent to the foler track.

I can only suggest a workaround:
-- create a third track with the "FX to be shared" on it
-- move track 1's audio clips to it
-- right-click and select "Apply track FX to items as new take"
-- move the clips back to track 1

-- repeat for track 2
-- disable the FX on track 3

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Out of interest: what is this third FX that crashes Reaper if it is loaded twice?
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:12 AM   #3
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i understand, obviously the downside to this is fixing the effects on track 1 and 2 and not being able to tweak during the mix... thanks for the clear response
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:33 AM   #4
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Default problem solved?? but long winded??

How about this using i/o options.

Track 1 with its effects all turned off. Send to track 3
Track 3 with new effect on it. Master parent send switched off. Send to Track 4
Track 4 has all the effects on track 1 but turned on

Track 2 with its effects all turned off. Send to track 3
Track 3 with new effect on it. Master parent send switched off. Send to Track 5
Track 5 has all the effects on track 2 but turned on.

Track 4 and 5 now has the original tracks 1 and 2 playing through them with all the original effects and the new effect first in the chain coming from track 3.

POhew!!! Is this correct??? anyone?
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Old 11-14-2011, 05:11 AM   #5
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i understand, obviously the downside to this is fixing the effects on track 1 and 2 and not being able to tweak during the mix... thanks for the clear response
Well, you do still have the original audio in the Muted take in each clip, if you want to go back to it.

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How about this using i/o options.

Track 1 with its effects all turned off. Send to track 3
Track 3 with new effect on it. Master parent send switched off. Send to Track 4
Track 4 has all the effects on track 1 but turned on

Track 2 with its effects all turned off. Send to track 3
Track 3 with new effect on it. Master parent send switched off. Send to Track 5
Track 5 has all the effects on track 2 but turned on.

Track 4 and 5 now has the original tracks 1 and 2 playing through them with all the original effects and the new effect first in the chain coming from track 3.

POhew!!! Is this correct??? anyone?
Nice try, but not if I understand correctly. Track 3 is Sending to both tracks 4 and 5. So the audio on the two tracks will be output through the FX on track 3 and 4 and 5.
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:23 AM   #6
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How about this using i/o options.

Track 1 with its effects all turned off. Send to track 3
Track 3 with new effect on it. Master parent send switched off. Send to Track 4
Track 4 has all the effects on track 1 but turned on

Track 2 with its effects all turned off. Send to track 3
Track 3 with new effect on it. Master parent send switched off. Send to Track 5
Track 5 has all the effects on track 2 but turned on.

Track 4 and 5 now has the original tracks 1 and 2 playing through them with all the original effects and the new effect first in the chain coming from track 3.

POhew!!! Is this correct??? anyone?
Draw this configuration out on a piece of paper, and you will see that track 3 will mix what comes from tracks 1 and 2, and then send that to both tracks 4 and 5. Once two tracks share an FX, their contents get mixed and there's no way to "un-mix" them. DarkStars idea with the Apply FX as new take would seem the best way to get what you want.

Maybe... just maybe, you can get your FX to treat two channels independently, then you could send track 1 on channel 1 to track 3, and track 2 on channel 2 to track three, and then channels 1 and 2, resp, from track 3 to tracks 4 and 5. I doubt it would work, but it depends on the FX...
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