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Old 02-19-2017, 01:42 PM   #1
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Default MIDI notes sustaining beyond clip end point?

I do most of my writing in Logic with lots of VIs, and am interested in giving Reaper a try instead. Everything has been fairly smooth sailing so far, however there is one problem I've run into that I can't seem to figure out.

The issue is when editing MIDI clips in the arrange view. If you edge edit the end of a clip, it does not also automatically move the "All Notes Off" command with the new clip end point. On subsequent playback, if you have trimmed the clip to before where the sustain pedal has sent its "off" message, the notes just continue to play indefinitely, even after the clip end point. The same thing happens if recording is stopped while the sustain pedal is on. In logic, if you trim a MIDI clip, it does this for you automatically, which makes much more sense to me.

Is there a setting somewhere to make Reaper do this? I spent a couple hours searching other threads with no luck. Obviously I can manually add this data point back in, but that's a serious pain. Almost defeats the purpose of being able to drag a clip edge in the first place. Hoping I'm just missing something here?
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Old 02-21-2017, 09:39 PM   #2
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:50 AM   #3
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I believe it depends on VST instrument you are using. Some behave nicely some do what you described
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:44 PM   #4
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Thanks atza!

I just tried every VI I've got, including the built in ReaSYNTH. All are exhibiting this same behavior in all cases. Also tried AUi instead of VST, same thing.

Just to be clear, this is only happening when using sustain, normal notes are updating as expected with edits to the clip.
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:04 AM   #5
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Hi,
in Preferences|Audio|MIDI Devices => "Reset by:" are some options that may be useful for that.

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Old 02-23-2017, 12:42 PM   #6
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Thanks, Pet. Tried those. Doesn't seem to help my issue. According to the user guide, those controls are for hardware only.

Can anyone replicate this behavior?

1. Record a midi track (with a VI) using a sustain pedal.
2. Trim back the midi clip (not the notes themselves) in the arrange view so the clip end falls before the sustain pedal sends it's note-off message.
3. Play back

In my case, the notes always continue to sustain indefinitely beyond the clip end. Seems crazy that this is the normal behavior.

Thanks all - appreciate the help!
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Old 04-01-2017, 12:16 PM   #7
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I had the same issue. In case you didn't get it figured out, or for others:

Options->Prefs->Audio->Playback->Reset MIDI CC/Pitch on: Check "playback stop"
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:44 PM   #8
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I was having the same issue... Figured it out by locating the timing of the sustain off in the midi editor event list. If the trigger runs into the next clip, it will stay on.
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