Old 06-10-2009, 04:10 AM   #1
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Default MXL V67i vs Rode NT1-A

I just got a new MXL V67i LDC mic after reading some good reports about them hear in the forums and reviews etc. So i thought i'd compare it to my rode NT1-A, I set them up side by side with the v67i in warm mode, set the input levels on my rme FF400 so they were even ( in doing so i noticed the nt1-a is quite a bit more sensitive than the v67i ) and recorded a few lines of singing, if you could call it that . On playing back the audio i was surprised to hear they sounded very similar, not at all what i was expecting, I thought the v67i would be much more present than the nt1-a after reading about its focused movie narrator type sound.
Whilst there is some difference in sound to my ears, mainly in the low frequency range its sertainly far from what i was expecting but then, maybe there would be more noticeable difference in the context of a mix do you think?

I should mention that i have limited experience with mics in general, and i was obviously expecting an almost night & day difference, was my comparison flawed in some way ? how else could i compare them.

Heres a freq plot of the two in span

what do you think? are these plots really telling me anything about the actual sound of the mics or does it only represent the freq of my voice the mics recorded. hope that makes sence.

EDIT: When i flip the phase on 1 of the tracks is the sound i,m hearing the actual difference in sound of the mics ? ( the tracks were recorded similtaniously.)

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Old 06-10-2009, 07:00 AM   #2
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EDIT: When i flip the phase on 1 of the tracks is the sound i,m hearing the actual difference in sound of the mics ? ( the tracks were recorded similtaniously.)
only if they're in exactly the same place (i.e. impossible). sound blooms out of mouths pretty weirdly (bounces off top/bottom of mouth in different ways). it'll be close though.

in my experience, the nt1a has some really bright treble thing happening that flatters dull sources. but the v67g (not the same as your mic but presumably related?) has a sort of crunchy low mid thing, a softer/lo-fi top end and a gentle bass taper that adds up to a REALLY good vocal mic but not fantastic on anything you want precision on. i'd try some different sources (acoustic guitar, tambourine) and see what you get.

edit: also try shouting into them, or clapping. those mics are going to behave VERY differently with transient material.

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Old 06-11-2009, 04:22 AM   #3
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Thanks Dub,

I'll try some different source material as you suggest, i'm sure it will be a very usefull mic, I messed with some EQ & comp settings on the vocals i recorded and that seems to have exposed some of there differences more so.

The V67i is ment to be almost identical to to the V67G when set to warm, but the V67i also has a bright capsule on the other side of the mic along with a -6db pad and a high pass filter( not sure of the freq roll off )so it should be more versatile than a V67G.

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Take a set of keys and jingle them in front of both mics, and then compare the graphs. That always works for me.
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Old 06-11-2009, 04:35 AM   #5
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Take a set of keys and jingle them in front of both mics, and then compare the graphs. That always works for me.
I'll give that a shot.
Thanks for the tip

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Old 06-11-2009, 10:38 AM   #6
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On a side note (sorry), I've used the NT1 quite a few times, because it's so danged inexpensive that that's what people can afford. The most remarkable thing about that mic is the self noise of 5 dB-A. There's nothing quieter at any price. The Neumann Solution D has a noise spec of 7 dB-A!

I'm using a Rode on my current project. The other day I cranked it up in Reaper while my friend was walking around upstairs. I could hear every creak, every drawer open, like he was in the same room with me, NTM planes flying over and the guys working across the street. It reminds you why real recording studios cost so much---because they're actually quiet.
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