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09-02-2009, 07:38 PM
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Amp Sim MegaShootout!
***update****
Here is the RPP, just grab this and life should be way easier http://shup.com/Shup/211040/megatest.zip
***end update***
OK, I made some clean tracks to test all sorts of different amp sim plugins
Here's the DI one guitar is hard left the other is hard right
The DI tracks are below
http://shup.com/Shup/210092/shootout-clean.wav
The DI tracks are above
Now, This isnt anything super exact, as there are sooooo many variables involved, but at least it should give an idea of the tones available
PLEASE feel free to add your own examples using the supplied files!
Let me know if I'm wasting my time or if you guys find this sort of thing useful, if it makes sense Ill post more in a bit, and the chains I used for each if anyone is interested
BTE TS Secret + Preampus Brain: http://shup.com/Shup/210140/BTE-TS_Preampus-Brain.mp3
Preampus Brain: http://shup.com/Shup/210141/Preampus-Brain.mp3
BTE Juicy 77: http://shup.com/Shup/210142/juicy77.mp3
Simulanalog JCM900: http://shup.com/Shup/210143/jcm900.mp3
Softube Vintage Amp Room: http://shup.com/Shup/210144/vintage-amp-room.mp3
Revalver MKIII JSX: http://shup.com/Shup/210145/revalver-JSX.mp3
Revalver MKIII XXX: http://shup.com/Shup/210146/revalver-XXX.mp3
RobRokken 808: http://shup.com/Shup/210127/robrokken808.mp3
Acme Bar Gig Razor: http://shup.com/Shup/210218/Razor.mp3
RPP for razor http://shup.com/Shup/210219/razor.RPP
Revalver - thanks Carbon!: http://shup.com/Shup/210256/revalver...ith_triode.mp3
PODFarm - thanks pattonfreak!: http://stashbox.org/620331/SimTest.mp3
More RobRokken 808: http://www.robrokkenaudio.com/Shup/r...n808sample.mp3
Juicy77 left, razor right, kompound metal madness kick and snare, verbiage, CMX and rocket: http://shup.com/Shup/210434/combos.mp3
ABG DIG- thanks StepOne!: http://stashbox.org/620628/DIGtest.mp3
Thanks Shredder:
Here are the samples of the PreAmpUs Metal line of amp-sims:
http://shup.com/Shup/210471/ABG-PreAmpUs-Metal-C-15.mp3
http://shup.com/Shup/210472/ABG-PreAmpUs-Metal-ISX.mp3
http://shup.com/Shup/210473/ABG-PreA...-Series-60.mp3
http://shup.com/Shup/210475/ABG-PreA...-Catharsis.mp3
Also Included Cyan Experimental as well:
http://shup.com/Shup/210470/ABG-Cyan.mp3
Last edited by pipelineaudio; 09-04-2009 at 04:09 PM.
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09-02-2009, 07:50 PM
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Updated with RobRokken 808
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09-02-2009, 07:58 PM
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Personally, I think the RobRokkenAudio one kicks butt!!! 
~Rob.
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09-02-2009, 10:43 PM
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What are you doing for cabs? Something sounds very stereo on some of these. I think chains would be super helpful.
I'll make some guitar rig 3 versions if I can duplicate your cab...
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09-02-2009, 11:50 PM
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the original file at the top of this post includes two clean guitars panned hard left and hard right
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09-03-2009, 12:03 AM
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What IR are you using - what is the chain as well?
The RobRokken 808 is scooped at 550Hz
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09-03-2009, 12:10 AM
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Razor added
here's the RPP for it http://shup.com/Shup/210219/razor.RPP
The other files are pretty much the same, same impulse except in plugins that had their own cab sims like revalver, jcm900 and juicy77
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09-03-2009, 01:11 AM
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I like that vintage amp room one, sounds good!
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09-03-2009, 01:29 AM
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Most interesting in that series for me:
The last one, Acme Bar Gig Razor, sounded soloed too middish for me... but as soon as the drums come in it seems to be just right.
That reminds me to my old fights with guitar players when it comes to mixdown: "Solo my guitar! ... Oh NO! Its not phat enough! We have to re-record this, my stack in real sounds soooo much better!"
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09-03-2009, 02:26 AM
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Had a quick try too.
Sorry about the drums 
Revalver MKIII - 6505 mod with a single triode in front:
http://shup.com/Shup/210256/revalver...ith_triode.mp3
Last edited by carbon; 09-03-2009 at 11:43 AM.
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09-03-2009, 03:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carbon
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sounds like the intro to limelight with that tone.
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09-03-2009, 07:24 AM
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Here's PODFarm:
Gate>TS>Spinal Puppet>2001 Line 6 4x12>57 straight>comp>eq
http://stashbox.org/620331/SimTest.mp3
(in Nacho Libre voice)"Is the beeeeeeest!"
PS: And what the hell is the RobRokken 808 and why am I hearing about it just now?
Last edited by pattonfreak1; 09-03-2009 at 07:27 AM.
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09-03-2009, 07:29 AM
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which amp sim is 'Acme Bar Gig Razor'?
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09-03-2009, 07:33 AM
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Can't access shup files; every time I try to download I get a different filesize, and none of them plays.
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09-03-2009, 08:33 AM
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Pipe - Would it be more accurate to use the same cab and impulse for each?
Even if you're using a sim with built in cab modeling, you can diable the onboard cab and use an external IR - might be easier to point out the distinguishing features of each sim that way.
Also - it might be cool to post up the DI's your using, so everyone can experiment with the same material.
So, if you can post the IR and the DI, maybe even a track template - everyone could be on the same page.
There are a few others not mentioned:
Nick Crow 8505
Nick Crow 7170
LePau Solo C
Dirthead
PS - this is an awesome idea!
Last edited by Chris_P_Critter; 09-03-2009 at 08:36 AM.
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09-03-2009, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_P_Critter
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Also - it might be cool to post up the DI's your using, so everyone can experiment with the same material.
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The very first file is a wave of the two di's one is on the left one is on the right
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09-03-2009, 08:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pipelineaudio
The very first file is a wave of the two di's one is on the left one is on the right
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Ooooooh *facepalm*
my bad.
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09-03-2009, 10:55 AM
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pipline, in your wave there is a hidden secret i'd like to know
you don't need any effect, to distort it.
what for sure you don't have to search for effects in the web,
you allready have them in JS.
(any way thank you for the knoledge, it helps).
what the secret in your wave , make it so easy to distort ?
actually, what i'm after, is how to produce, a synth wave, that it'll be easy do distort, as your wave.
so far, i tried my best with no success.
i successed, with several plugins, to make something,
but not with one simple JS distortion effect, as with your wave.
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09-03-2009, 10:58 AM
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"what the secret in your wave , make it so easy to distort ? "
I don't see any secrets there lol, Just some wave files.. I know I record my guitars at -15 db.
~Rob.
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09-03-2009, 11:09 AM
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09-03-2009, 11:11 AM
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I'm not sure what exactly you are referring to. Theres a plugin called "TS- Secret" on the first example file, but not the others. Im going to put the Razor RPP in the first post so its easier to see how I did it
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09-03-2009, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingbenlucas
which amp sim is 'Acme Bar Gig Razor'?
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Acme Bar Gig Razor IS the amp sim.
I think Brain sounds great personnably.
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09-03-2009, 12:36 PM
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09-03-2009, 01:13 PM
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Last edited by Shredder; 09-03-2009 at 03:45 PM.
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09-03-2009, 03:07 PM
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09-03-2009, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pipelineaudio
The very first file is a wave of the two di's one is on the left one is on the right
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_P_Critter
Ooooooh *facepalm*
my bad.
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x2...my DIG sample is a mono sum widened, oops 
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09-03-2009, 03:30 PM
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Here's a slightly cranked up stereo version from a Revalver MKIII bank called Le Petite and preset called On Stage.
http://shup.com/Shup/210516/Le-Petite-On-Stage.mp3
I just used one clip (centred) and ran it in stereo through Revalver. I think that's OK because Revalver can deal with stereo files.
Pete
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09-03-2009, 03:56 PM
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09-03-2009, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredder
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How the hell did you get the METAL series if it hasn't been released yet?
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09-03-2009, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pattonfreak1
How the hell did you get the METAL series if it hasn't been released yet?
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Heheh... Membership has it's privileges!
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09-03-2009, 04:08 PM
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Here's LiteOn's brand new JS, FARModulator, wherein an external signal can act as a modulator in an FM system. Tweak the setting just right, add a "fake" cab sim using a 12dB resonant filter, and you get this:
http://stashbox.org/620827/LiteOn%20...aked%20Cab.mp3
Just trying to show there's more than one way to get an interesting tone.
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09-03-2009, 04:17 PM
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Okay, for something a little (well, a lot) less synthy, here's the Emerald FalconHead JS, contributed by new member Destructavator. It also uses a 12dB resonant filter as a "faked" cab emulator.
http://stashbox.org/620831/Emerald%2...aked%20Cab.mp3
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Last edited by Consul; 09-03-2009 at 04:51 PM.
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09-03-2009, 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredder
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Good looking out Shredmeister! I looooooooove Nick Crow's stuff.
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09-03-2009, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredder
Heheh... Membership has it's privileges!
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And how do I obtain this "membership"?
(i ask cuz i simply MUST have them)
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09-03-2009, 07:35 PM
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09-03-2009, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Consul
Just trying to show there's more than one way to get an interesting tone. |
that's right, and nice
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09-03-2009, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pattonfreak1
And how do I obtain this "membership"?
(i ask cuz i simply MUST have them)
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Hey Patton - the PreAmpUs Metal line of amp-sims will be out soon. Which one did you like the best?
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09-03-2009, 08:30 PM
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09-03-2009, 08:35 PM
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heres some drums you can use with the rpp if you dont want to midi it up
http://shup.com/Shup/210492/drums.wav
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