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schwa
12-09-2007, 05:28 PM
What major OSX DAWs support VST natively? I think the list is a lot shorter than I thought it was. I know there are VST->AU wrappers, do people mostly just use those?

BoxOfSnoo
12-10-2007, 06:08 AM
I have Tracktion, and it loads them.

I love the quality of the AUs in GarageBand. But it's GarageBand. There are soooo many VSTs!

mahasandi
12-10-2007, 08:32 AM
logic
cubase/nuendo
abelton live
tracktion

horselesspaul
12-10-2007, 09:33 AM
logic


Logic does not support native VST, only Audio Units.

mahasandi
12-10-2007, 01:28 PM
Right, that's correct

Fxpansion makes vst to au and rtas wrappers, I forgot that's
how its done,with logic.....

mark604
12-10-2007, 02:19 PM
What major OSX DAWs support VST natively? I think the list is a lot shorter than I thought it was. I know there are VST->AU wrappers, do people mostly just use those?

Wrappers can cause problems. Spark, which is an older program, supports VST under OS X. So does Cubase/Nuendo (it's basically their format). At this point, I think most people using OS X native are using AU not VST. Which is why, besides what Spark does, afaik, there are no AU->VST wrappers. Also, while there are tons of VST's out there, many of them are Windows only.

Logic, Numerology, Live, Melodyne, DSP-Quattro, Audio Hijack Pro, Sound Blade, Peak, GarageBand, Soundtrack Pro, Final Cut Pro, etc. all support AU, which is one reason why Reaper needs to get on that list.

mahasandi
12-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Fxpansion is a good wrapper
I'd say it coverted 80% of plugs
and those that were stable to begin with
were always fine , ymmv

mark604
12-11-2007, 11:41 AM
Fxpansion is a good wrapper
I'd say it coverted 80% of plugs
and those that were stable to begin with
were always fine , ymmv

That's VST-> AU, not AU->VST, right? So it wouldn't allow you to use AU's with Reaper. Then again, Reaper's VST hosting isn't working right, either. My point is that an OS X application should host Audio Units, which has been announced for Reaper.

mahasandi
12-11-2007, 12:22 PM
ah ha! So which au's do you love so much?

Seriously though they do make a vst to au
adapter/ wrapper.

And wrappers are band aids, which can work

but don't have the best host support sometimes

Ultimately Reaper should "do it all" and I have confidence

In time it will.

mark604
12-15-2007, 07:32 AM
Seriously though they do make a vst to au
adapter/ wrapper.

Right, but afaik they don't make an AU to VST adapter. Regardless, I agree, it's best not to use a wrapper. If the developers are serious about making Reaper an OS X application, it needs to host Audio Units.

schwa
12-15-2007, 08:14 AM
If anyone is interested in beta-testing VST and AU plugins on OSX, please drop me a PM.