start thinkin iPhone development

[wonderbread]

iPhone is where it is at. It's a great platform and with app store things can get interesting quick. The platform is also dying for a good sequencer/synth/audio creation tool. I had a program called Griff on the Palm about 10 years ago and it was wonderful. Imagine the same thing on the iPhone or a snowball type project on iPhone or an impromptu jam session with strangers in your area found via location services... ok i'm getting a little wild now but the possibilities are all exciting.

think about it.

[Matthew Presley]

Check out BeatMaker.. It just his the app store today and is a pretty cool for what it is. When they get midi export and the ability to load your own samples it will be even better (all of which is coming).

First Reaper based app for the iphone I'd personally like to see a simple Transport and mixer controller. Like the one made on the Nintendo DS....

Then a useful utility that would let your Reastream your mix onto the phone for archive/playback...

[griz lee]

with you on that one Matthew.

I'd like to see Reastream get some compression options (such as vorbis, or mp3) so we can stream in and out to anything.... iphones...3g... windows mobile... etc

[wonderbread]

Beatmaker is nice and it's good to hear midi export is coming up but it's really difficult to create melodies with it. There's no keyboard reference and note length selection. Seems you have to assign notes to the drum pads and do pitch bend and other akward things like that to create a melody.

[ngarjuna]

iPhone 1.0 user here and personally I cannot imagine ever trying to do anything useful on a keyboard/workspace that size. I don't even like typing posts on it. As an iPod/video iPod, I love it; as a smart phone, I love it; but as a creation tool (for text, music, or just about anything else I can imagine), I think it's just too small a workspace.

The transport controller I could see; that's about right for the workspace size we're talking about, though I wouldn't choose it over my Faderport.

Having just upgraded to 2.0 (finally ditched my 1.1.4 jailbroken setup), I have to say that I am pretty underwhelmed by the application offerings at this time. I am sure it will continue to mature with the platform, but I really expected at least one really useful app to roll out with 2.0 and I'm just not seeing anything interesting at all.

[Matthew Presley]

ngarjuna,

You have to take it for what it is, not what Apple hypes it as (THE GREATEST THING YOU WILL EVER NEED!! THIS WILL MAKE YOU RICH, POWERFUL, AND ATTRACTIVE TO YOUR PREFERRED SEX...etc etc.. :-)

Anyways... Right now there are a few useful apps. Out of the 500+ available I've downloaded about 12 of them that I can actually use. But overall I see most of them as the equivalent to video games for boring adults. These are things to play with... right now BeatMaker is no different, just fun.... Its like mini Fruity Loops.

[ngarjuna]

Oh, I hear you. Like I said, I love the phone and it's a perfectly usable portable media device with probably the best screen out there at its size; no complaints at all.

And yeah, I don't really expect apps to be life changing (as I said, I find the size to be pretty unworkable for most of what I'd want to do); I didn't really find the jailbroken apps to be much more useful either. What I did find useful, however, was the ability to fully customize my GUI and sound scheme, something that the vanilla apple settings do not allow for. I traded these customizations (some of which I spent some major time working up) thinking that there would be some app which would really make me think the whole app store was worthwhile. Still waiting to find said app, that's all.

The more I've reflected this morning, the more I like the idea of a transport controller. Unlike my Faderport, I can basically carry the iPhone around the studio to any room I'm in; that could indeed be very useful to me.

[ngarjuna]

Interesting, just stumbled across this over at GS:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/160907-protools-your-iphone.html

Maybe if his app sells well he'll consider porting it for more hosts (I think right now it's just PT and Logic to a lesser degree).

[wonderbread]

Interesting, just stumbled across this over at GS:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/160907-protools-your-iphone.html

Maybe if his app sells well he'll consider porting it for more hosts (I think right now it's just PT and Logic to a lesser degree).

$150 for an iPhone app? That's outrageous and not the right price to capitalize either. Sell a good product on Apple Store for $8.95 and you'll get 100,000 people buying it. Sell it for $150 and maybe 200 people will buy it.

This app does the same thing I believe and works with any midi controllable app (and it's available from apps store):
http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/iphone/

[mrelwood]

This app does the same thing I believe and works with any midi controllable app (and it's available from apps store):
http://www.iamas.ac.jp/~aka/iphone/

He doesn't have any related apps available. But there is an app called "VNC" that can control both Mac and Win os's thru Wi-fi. Works marvellously, but is slow updating the remote display. I will definitely use that for remote rec start when behind drums etc.

All in all, I'm not sure a Reaper for iPhone is worth too much work since a remote desktop-style app will do quite nicely already. And there will definitely be more.

[wonderbread]

He doesn't have any related apps available. But there is an app called "VNC" that can control both Mac and Win os's thru Wi-fi. Works marvellously, but is slow updating the remote display. I will definitely use that for remote rec start when behind drums etc.

All in all, I'm not sure a Reaper for iPhone is worth too much work since a remote desktop-style app will do quite nicely already. And there will definitely be more.

How's the reaction time from when you click record on the VNC app and when the host application receives the click? Also, are you able to utilize the milti-touch interface to, for instance, adjust two sliders on screen at the same time?

thanks

[mrelwood]

How's the reaction time from when you click record on the VNC app and when the host application receives the click? Also, are you able to utilize the milti-touch interface to, for instance, adjust two sliders on screen at the same time?

thanks

The app is free, so everyone can give it a try. I didn't note any mentionable delays in host actions. Two sliders cannot be changed at the same time. It is a remote mouse, not a controller.

[brice]

http://remaincalm.org/index.php/2008/05/dsmcu-getting-started this should be ported to the iphone

[drillbit]

They already have a Pro Tools control app for the iPhone:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/160907-protools-your-iphone.html

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/12/10/control-pro-tools-with-an-iphone-or-ipod-touch/


Also this $20 app that enables you to control heaps of things. I don't think it would be hard to mod this app to work with Reaper:

http://www.iospirit.com/index.php?mode=view&obj_type=infogroup&obj_id=24&ios_lang=en&sid=4879621G96dcc9ea5308a045&o_infogroup_objcode=infogroup-23&o1_infogroup_objcode=html-141

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edit: and I just found this, that looks bloody cool:

http://thrill.artificialeyes.tv/i3L_v0.2

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