REALIVE: A live configuration for Reaper

[lexaproductions]

https://i.imgur.com/wXmHdlN.png?1

GREAT NEWS!!! There's now a website!!!
https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2780629#post2780629
Current release: 7.054 (April 2024)


I'm leaving this post for posterity, but keep in mind that REALIVE has now been updated to version 7 with SEVERAL improvements. Go on the website to see it all.

A 50$ donation is needed. You can contribute on my website at this address:
https://www.realive.fm/products/realive-configuration

After years of development, here's a complete "Multi-Project" Environnement I've built.
It is based on:
Reaper's tab feature Rearoute Loopback Feature SWS' RPL feature.


For those familiar with Digital Performer's Chunks functions, it pretty much behaves the same way but with REAPER's solid engine.
Disclaimer: It has not been extensively used on Windows but from what I've heard, it behaves the same way.

YouTube Demo Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAmEPnv7dA4)

Description:
The goal of this is to provide a live backing track environment that is very flexible. To easily be able to have the computer follow the band instead of having confined to a rigid sequence.

You can easily:

Make a full list of songs that are independent: No huge timeline of 10000 measures that can easily be broken by a tempo change somewhere and that makes the whole set loading "A long and painful task". Each list can obviously be saved, duplicated, renamed, savedAs, etc...

Presets song switching: Using action markers one can preset switching from one song to the other in three ways:

1- Go to the Next song and wait
2- Go to the Next and play immediately
3- Smooth seek to the next song
(Each of these switching actions can be performed with or without stopping the currently playing song. This allows for an easy seem-less segway between songs.)


Reroute everything to any output of the audio interface: Each project relies on a template that separate your songs in busses (Click, Cues, Percs, SFX, Keyboards, Vocals, etc...)

Every project makes use of Reaper's markers/region and empty items features: You first create all your markers for the song, then you hit the "generate structure track" button and all your regions and empty items are automatically created.

Navigate through and pre-cue different sections of the songs while ALWAYS staying on the beat.

Loop sections of songs

Loop and solo the click (1 bar or only the last beat of the previous bar): This even makes it possible to skip beats and turn the whole thing around if somebody in the band missed a beat.

Stop Markers: To preset a song's ending, one doesn't need to go into the project settings. You simply enable "Project Ending" Blue marker and move it to where you want the song to stop.

Change the song's tempo on the fly: Using the tempo editing mode, one can alter the tempo by:
+/- 1BPM increments
Entering a tempo amount or offset
Tap Tempo


Change the song's master pitch on the fly: Using the pitch editing mode, one can alter the pitch by:

+/- 1BPM increments
Entering a pitch amount or offset

These tracks are not affected by the pitch edits:

SFX
Percs
SMPTE timecode
Click
Cues


Imported new tracks are automatically sorted in their right folders: so that they are routed at the right place


Cues guide track are generated automatically in three language (English/French/Spanish) according to the regions:
Several other cues samples are available in a toolbar ready to be entered.

Click track is generated automatically and several click sounds are available:


I must give A LOT of credits to
Justin For the hidden Loopback function which is the backbone of everything.
MPL For the initial idea of the Playlist window
CFillion for many many many scripting concepts and explanations
Mespotine: I spend every day in your API documentation
X-Raym: For several scripting ideas and concepts
Lokasenna: For gmem related infos, and the gui post on this forum.
Blankfile : For the great "ILogic Next" theme.


This is a full configuration that will change your whole setup. I strongly advise to use this as a portable install that won't interfere with your regular install. It is not a DAW for recording and extensive editing but rather a live playback engine.

Main View:
https://i.imgur.com/PbUdQdl.png?1


Audio Routing Tab:
https://i.imgur.com/UZ1x88P.png?1


Project Tab List Menu:
https://i.imgur.com/5C2GdxA.png?1



Action Markers:
https://i.imgur.com/IN49LBV.png?1


Change Tempo/Pitch:
https://i.imgur.com/cUHkqE8.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/v2H0AVg.png?1


Auto-Stop Marker:
https://i.imgur.com/CuBf35g.png?1


Switch To Next Song Marker:
https://i.imgur.com/V77zNUA.png?1


Project Title Window:
https://i.imgur.com/FonDHZK.png?1


Large Region Window:
https://i.imgur.com/wIHqcao.png?1


Smooth Seeking With Large Region Window:
https://i.imgur.com/AW2NdbM.png?1


CMD(CTL on Windows)-Click to play/Stop: (If other project is playing then smooth seek)
https://i.imgur.com/aacbDnB.gif


Change Order Of Tabs: (When Saving with CMD-S, The list is updated)
https://i.imgur.com/57LLUgb.gif

[mschnell]

Looks great (to me as someone who does not even exactly know what it can be used for.)

Is there a detailed documentation on what it can do and hot it is to be used and configured ?

If such is available I'd like to edit the sticky thread here and add some description and links.

Thank,
Michael

[lexaproductions]

Just added a full description to the first post.

[mschnell]

GREAT !
OK a description / feature list, so I can include it in the sticky thread-

To allow anybody to use it a manual would be necessary.

Thanks.
-Michael

[josoal]

Eager to see it on windows.

[TonE]

Thanks for sharing my friend, one day I might try it and see how and where it can be useful. Thanks for all efforts, the great presentation here and the youtube video.

Having all kind of different workflow styles for reaper is great, even if someone would not use it now, it might change in future. Great having all these options.

Now the looped recording workflow can be shared, if not done already.

[lexaproductions]

Eager to see it on windows.

Actually, I'd be curious to see what works and what doesn't. Have you tried to install it on window in a portable install?

[josoal]

I tryed with a fresh portable intall.
Windows 10x64
Reaper 6.12
I load a template. I can´t find play list and several windows errors.
(sorry for my english)

[lexaproductions]

Thanks for this report. First time I see it on windows. Yikes! :)

I think those issues are all related to Windows. I'll work on it and report back.

[lexaproductions]

Also make sure you have up to date versions of SWS & JS_API installed in this portable install.

[josoal]

I update SWS to last beta, fewer errors, but they persist.
You have a very personalized version of Reaper. It is difficult for me to find everything.
Thanks.

[lexaproductions]

Yes It is a “self contained” and very different than my usual Reaper studio setup. The reason being that when I use this live, it is used for very restrictive a function. Without anything to disturb. It does goes against Reaper, customized philosophy and feel.

If you type “Realive” in the action list, everything Is there. You use the Realive actions for the whole thing to work.
In that link you downloaded, there is a cheat sheet. For the my controlling stuff
It’s a good starting point

I will get my windows computer soon. In the meantime, please keep sending me screen capture as it will allow me to enable a fully working windows mode.

[dazastah]

Ok sorry was late on the post for this . I’ll do some deep testing for this . I play drums live and use reaper as a multitrack playback system . I use portable installs for Mac and pc for redundancy.
Great work ..

[dazastah]

Great Job on this.
The amazing thing about this is the fact we can now smooth seek between project tabs.. I'm not sure people know how blooding amazing this is.
I've only had a quick look atm , But this seriously will get a work out testing from me (especially the routing side)

ITs great because the projects can be independent instead of songs all in one project.

Again Great Job on this . I cant wait to put it through some testing .

I've used this on a win 10 machine.. Things all worked here on first trial ..
Cheers.

[dazastah]

For everyone who's wondering why this is useful ..

I'm a live drummer who plays for acts that require live playback of multiple stems, where we can change set list on the fly, stop songs, restart them and also have them smooth seek into next song (without gaps) all while having the ability to edit a song in a contained project(easier editing than one whole project with songs scattered across timeline) into a audio interface with multiple outs, so that our foh engineer can then mix those stems live .
Possibly the next thing would be to support redundancy rigs.. (2 reapers playing back at the same time , into something like a iconnect playaudio 12 which supports redundancy switching)

[lexaproductions]

Thanks for the kind words.
So it does work on Windows? The PC I was supposed to have never worked out so I still haven’t try

I’m interested in hearing if you understood everything on the first try. Is it intuitive enough?

[dazastah]

Yes confirming it worked on windows 10 .

Easy for me to navigate and use as it fits my needs almost automatically .
I didn’t jump into the audio routing yet .


I have had a lifestyle change so I’m not intensively testing it as such .
I pretty much backed up my preferences ,imported your prefs and it worked .
I then reimported my prefs back and my setup was as is.
A portable install is the best option though .

If you install latest reaper version with latest sws it works.

I’ll get into it on Sunday and try and create at least a half hour set of songs as I have to redo everything into seperate projects ..

I’ll run it with a soundcraft ui24r and post my reports here.

[lexaproductions]

Thanks a lot for the report.

There is a new version up with many enhancements. Try it out and let me know.

[lexaproductions]

Just added a new version with a lot of tweaks.

Drag and Drop for RPL files into the playlist window now supported.

[TonE]

Great Job on this.
The amazing thing about this is the fact we can now smooth seek between project tabs.. I'm not sure people know how blooding amazing this is.
I've only had a quick look atm , But this seriously will get a work out testing from me (especially the routing side)

ITs great because the projects can be independent instead of songs all in one project.

Again Great Job on this . I cant wait to put it through some testing .

I've used this on a win 10 machine.. Things all worked here on first trial ..
Cheers.

Dear friend dazastah, just clicked to your link, listened by accident to nights isolation through my cheap laptop speakers, great beats. Now I can check what else you made. https://dazastah.bandcamp.com/track/nights-isolation Great violins, not sure if those are real or some software?

Now back to the topic. It sounds great, also did not use tabs this way yet, has to be tested out for sure, how are you using it, can you give a few best use case examples? Reapers coolness has to be spread, no matter on which tiny dimension.

[lexaproductions]

The best use for this whole thing is for playback of multi-tracks in a performance context. Where you have several stems (Percs, keyboards, back vocals, etc) along with a click track, and a cues track. I also include a smpte track for lights and videos.

The most obvious advantage of using tabs instead of only one long timeline is to keep all song separate. You can’t mess up subsequent songs by changing your timeline somewhere

Keeping tracks separate in tabs allows for easy reordering of songs, saving several songs as a list and not having to load the entire song list when you need just a few songs.

It is also less cpu intensive as only the current song is active at any given time

It also allows to make totally seemless segways from one song to another one as you can start one song while the other is still playing.

Those are only a few advantages that comes to mind. I could go one for days with advantage of using it this way.

Let me know if you want more explaining.

Thanks for your interest in this.

[DerTonmeister]

wow that looks amazing! Do you have some kind of tutorial for that huge thing?

[deeb]

Hi! i wonder what is "hidden Loopback function" :)

i would like to have a "simple" thing : API:reaper.GoToRegion( in the next 16th/8th/bar) this would allow me some kind of live performing/ recording approach.

I have requested here:
https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=245699

is this related?

Thank you!

[lexaproductions]

The loop back function allows you to route audio between tabs. I use this to have only one audio routing tab that communicate with my audio interface.
All the other tabs sends their audio to it. So if I have 100 opened songs I can still quickly turn the click up or reroute my timecode elsewhere if I need to.
My whole setup may look complicated, but it’s really easy to use and very flexible.

[mschnell]

The loop back function allows you to route audio between tabs.
-> https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=1603668&postcount=10
Amazing !
I need to try this ASAP (I seem to have seen it some tiome ago but forgot about it.

With same I might be able to add stuff like background tracks to my "Reaper as an instrument" setup by using another Tab.
-Michael

[deeb]

The loop back function allows you to route audio between tabs. I use this to have only one audio routing tab that communicate with my audio interface.
All the other tabs sends their audio to it. So if I have 100 opened songs I can still quickly turn the click up or reroute my timecode elsewhere if I need to.
My whole setup may look complicated, but it’s really easy to use and very flexible.


very good! thank you! Thank you reaper too! :) very interesting!

[deeb]

-> https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=1603668&postcount=10
Amazing !
I need to try this ASAP (I seem to have seen it some tiome ago but forgot about it.

With same I might be able to add stuff like background tracks to my "Reaper as an instrument" setup by using another Tab.
-Michael

cool mschnell! seems really usefull!

[pyrannial]

This seems like a cool setup.

Couple of questions:
- Can you rearoute the audio out to OBS or other live streaming software (https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=251837)?
- Can you record, in particular with Playtime by helgoboss (https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=2428463&postcount=1180)? Usually I have found that region seeking breaks the recording capabilities in Reaper but I nee record for live looping setup

[lexaproductions]

This seems like a cool setup.

Couple of questions:
- Can you rearoute the audio out to OBS or other live streaming software (https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=251837)?
- Can you record, in particular with Playtime by helgoboss (https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=2428463&postcount=1180)? Usually I have found that region seeking breaks the recording capabilities in Reaper but I nee record for live looping setup

1- I'm on Mac so I never had access to rearoute. I'd be happy to help you in your testing.

2- I've never tried playtime. Once again, I'll be happy to help you in your testing.

Keep me posted.

[pyrannial]

Thanks will try it on a portable install as soon as I get the chance. I am looking forward to seeing how it all works and what ideas you've come up with!

[pyrannial]

So I have got a little bit further tonight.

I set up a new portable Reaper install. Then I imported the `20210330_Full.ReaperConfigZip` from the DropBox link at the top of this thread. I imported it using the `General` section of the Reaper Preferences.

A few errors occurred when I started up Reaper once I'd done all this.

1.
`UserPlugins\reaper_js_ReaScriptAPI64.dll is either not designed to run on Windows or it contains an error. Try installing the program aain using the original installation media or contact your system administrator or the software vendor for support. Error status 0xc0000130.`

2.
(the same error message as above but with these details instead)
reaper_sws-x86_64.dll 0xc0000020

3.
reascript error
___Realive_MainAPI.lua:1977:
attempt to call a nil value
(field 'JS_Window_FindChildByID')

I therefore deleted the relevant `.dll` files from the portable install `UserPlugins` folder and then installed SWS using the windows installer and pointed it to my portable install (turns out it requires a `reaper.exe` file present to detect and i'd already got excited and renamed the executable `realive.exe` lol!). I also copied the Reascript dll from my regular Reaper install and put it in the `UserPlugins` folder.

When I restarted Reaper ReaLive, the error messages had disappeared everything seemed to be working. The only thing is the size of the window was bigger than my screen but that wasn't a problem as it resized correctly on clicking the window maximize button.

Look forward to looking around and working out how it all works, but I think that's probably it for tonight.

EDIT: I should restate, for anyone reading that this is on a Windows computer.

[pyrannial]

I haven't really got to grips yet with ReaLive but I'm already wondering if it's overkill for what I'm after.

I was thinking whether it's possible to just implement the project tab selector as that's what I need most at the moment?

Who knows, I may be following the same thought process as you and end up needing all the elements of ReaLive but it's easier for my head to take it step by step lol.

[lexaproductions]

Yeah you need to install the proper jsapi and sws for your system.
There are a lot of dependence that prevent taking just the project tab list by itself.
That being said, if you stay in edit mode than it works like a simple reaper install

[pax-eterna]

I had a quick scan over the thread but could not see this, so I'll ask..sorry if it has already been asked in the body of a previous post...

I am planning to do this on a Windows box, but JUST in case, will it also run with Reaper on Linux?

Thanks

[lexaproductions]

I have no clue how Linux works...
But I would assume with the right sws/jsapi it would...
Please report back. I’m curious to know.

[pax-eterna]

thanks - I am hoping it would, as it's a native reaper plug format, and assuming all else is equal haha!

Sure when I get to it I will let you know....still in that massive internal struggle with "should I, shouldn't I" re the 1. jump from Sonar to Reaper (although I am still converting projects in spare time even though I am vacillating on the decision) and 2. then Windows to Linux. :)

[lexaproductions]

It took me a while to plunge from Digital Performer to Reaper but I’m so glad I did.
Changed my professional life.

[pax-eterna]

It took me a while to plunge from Digital Performer to Reaper but I’m so glad I did.
Changed my professional life.

Thanks, that gives me some encouragement! I have a hunch it will too for me, but the learning curve is daunting especially after near 20 years with one DAW haha!

But I think I will now actually make the Reaper purchase - been sitting on trial for a while now. Time to "pony up" as they say :)

[Asaph]

In-use videos forthcoming?

[pax-eterna]

It took me a while to plunge from Digital Performer to Reaper but I’m so glad I did.
Changed my professional life.

Supplementary question please?

You've suggested using the portable version to run Realive, but as a person who dislikes too many complications haha! could you explain why that is as I'd prefer to only need to work on projects in one and not have to copy them to another one? Unless I am missing how it works of course!

Is it the case that the portable can link and access (via Realive)any existing Reaper project?

Anyhoo, sorry if this is basic stuff, I'm still trying to get as much data as poss before "cutting the cord" so to speak haha!

[lexaproductions]

Supplementary question please?

You've suggested using the portable version to run Realive, but as a person who dislikes too many complications haha! could you explain why that is as I'd prefer to only need to work on projects in one and not have to copy them to another one? Unless I am missing how it works of course!

Is it the case that the portable can link and access (via Realive)any existing Reaper project?

Anyhoo, sorry if this is basic stuff, I'm still trying to get as much data as poss before "cutting the cord" so to speak haha!

Simply because this is optimized for live use and a lot of the "day to day daw" stuff is put aside. So if you're used to work with reaper a specific way, you might find this frustrating in a normal studio use. I personally have a studio configuration that is more traditional.

That being said, RPP files that are created/edited in a normal Reaper configuration will work in this and vice versa. It's only a workflow thing.

[pax-eterna]

Thanks, much appreciated :)

[pax-eterna]

Ok, ready to give this a try...are there any step by step instructions on how it installs, runs or whatever else I need to do to get it running...

I am trying this on linux so I'll obviously make adjustments where necessary :)

[lexaproductions]

You preferably make a clean portable install
You dragNdrop the config file on Reaper's gui like you would for any media file.
Follow the instructions on screen.

When installed, the first window is to open an RPL file.


There's a read me file in the Dropbox folder. I have yet to make you tube videos. Sorry still trying to find time with OBS to do it...

Watch my YouTube video in the first post to get an overview.

[pax-eterna]

You preferably make a clean portable install
You dragNdrop the config file on Reaper's gui like you would for any media file.
Follow the instructions on screen.

When installed, the first window is to open an RPL file.


There's a read me file in the Dropbox folder. I have yet to make you tube videos. Sorry still trying to find time with OBS to do it...

Watch my YouTube video in the first post to get an overview.

Not trying to be obtuse here, but what would be the best way to create the live USB drive? I saw that apparently in windows version this can be done via some tool in the start menu? Anyhoo I could not find anything like that and a search on the forum did not reveal much, so yeah, any suggestions? Thanks :)

[lexaproductions]

Sorry I don’t understand. Live USB drive???

[pax-eterna]

Creating a portable version on a USB drive, it's what you recommended...

[lexaproductions]

Ah sorry I did not understand before.
A Reaper "portable" install does not need to be on a USB drive. They call it "portable" simply because it is in a separate folder with its own configuration. You can freely put it on your local drive no problem. (That's what I do anyways.)

[pax-eterna]

Thanks - is the best way to learn what is happening and how to use it to look at the video link from the first post?

I see there is no actual manual :)

[pax-eterna]

Question: Can the playlist sidebar be resized? So the slots are bigger...I am planning on using a touchscreen monitor for this and I'll be selecting them with a finger haha!

Unless of course I can select them via a mid program change (or a CC message??) from an external device??

[lexaproductions]

Not resizable for now.
You can assign the commands to change tabs to your midi controller

I could add midi program change or midi notes in the near future, if you're willing to test it for me.


I need time to make videos and/or document. For now, you can make me a list of Questions I could answer.

[lexaproductions]

Ok I have something that I believe works with Program Changes they are not MIDI learnable. Your controller must be able to send from (0-127)

I could hard program an offset but that's it for now. Let me know.

[pax-eterna]

Cool, yeah I'll probably do it from the iPad via bluetooth...still working out routings etc...among other stuff (I'm in four bands and a solo act) with which I get pretty busy...this particular project is mostly for solo work.

Appreciate the effort there!

Do I download another "drag and drop" zip to get these new functions?

Happy to test it out, just not sure of time-frame, still got to convert Sonar projects :) - I was on it, but got sidetracked, haha! You know how it is ;)

[lexaproductions]

I'll let you know when the BETA is ready. It will be drag and drop yes.

[pax-eterna]

Excellent, thanks!

[lexaproductions]

Ok try it out now.
I've added actions to select tabs by numbers. You have to assign them individually to your Program Change Controller. Sorry API limitation.

Remember that for all of this to work, you must always use the "Realive_" actions in the action list.

I promise to do a video very soon!

[pax-eterna]

Just got it thanks!

I'll knock out a few quick projects from Sonar and have a play :)

[DerTonmeister]

exactly what I need. thanks a lot! Is there some kind of user guide to it?

[DerTonmeister]

I get an error when starting a fresh reaper portable install including sws:

"Realive_MainAPI.lua:2772: attempt to call a nil value (field 'JS_Window_FindChildByID')"

[nofish]

I get an error when starting a fresh reaper portable install including sws:

"Realive_MainAPI.lua:2772: attempt to call a nil value (field 'JS_Window_FindChildByID')"

That looks like you also need to have JS extension installed:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=212174

[DerTonmeister]

That looks like you also need to have JS extension installed:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=212174

thanks!

[lexaproductions]

Yup
JS and SWS are necessary.

[lexaproductions]

I get an error when starting a fresh reaper portable install including sws:

"Realive_MainAPI.lua:2772: attempt to call a nil value (field 'JS_Window_FindChildByID')"

I've just uploaded a build with version checking, and auto-installation of the most current version of SWS & JSAPI.

Let me know if it works.

[DerTonmeister]

thanks, installing js and sws did make it work! a quick short how to video on the setting everything up would be appreciated! this seems to be a huge and powerful mod!

[lexaproductions]

Cool. Did you watch the YouTube video?

[DerTonmeister]

Cool. Did you watch the YouTube video?

yep but I don't really know how to start here. The windows always resizes when opening another song in the project list. How to route between songs and audio tab? I'm using reaper professionally in the studio and I'm thinking about which DAW (Ableton, Bitwig or Reaper) to choose live for my band for playbacks and additional FX. Realive seems to suite my needs quite well but everything needs to be super clear for me to be able to trust a piece of software during live usage. I think some kind of video tutorial could spread the word as this beautiful piece is something many people could need I think!

[lexaproductions]

I know, I've been wanting to do vids for a while now but I never get to it.

In the dropbox folder there is a read me file that will get you started. I'll do my best to do a vid asap. For now, know that the audio is already routed to the Audio Routing tab automatically using Reaper's Audio loopback Hidden feature.
The main song template is already setup to communicate with it. You put your track directly in each folder and they'll be routed to the according track in the Audio Routing tab on the left.
Remember the letter "U" which is the main way to switch between live and edit view.
To setup a song, you need to enter markers in your song simply by hit "ctrl-m" and naming the markers. On Mac and enter "?" to get a cheat sheet for markers name. Once you're done making all the markers, In the main toolbar, you hit "Conductor Track" and choose "Generate structure track..." This will setup the whole thing.

The read me file will help you with all the commands.
No matter what you do, use the "Realive" actions in the action list for play, stop, loop etc... There is a lot of under the hood stuff going on.

And like everything else in Reaper, when in doubt, right click on it! :)

If you know Reaper well, I garantee you, this is the most solid/flexible live playback you could use.

You can inbox me if you'd like a one on one training session to get started.

[DerTonmeister]

ok thanks! I'll try to find my way through it. Looks quite promising as I said! If I don't get it, I'll get in contact after my holidays. Perhaps just one thing: Why does reaper/realive always resize when loading a new song or the audio routing project in the playlist? (I'm on a 4k monitor). It only happens if I click the project in the playlist. If I just change tabs, everything stays where it should.

[lexaproductions]

That’s a feature. ;)
To always have it fullscreen while working. I could make an enable/disable if you’d like? Does it resize out of your screen?

[DerTonmeister]

That’s a feature. ;)
To always ha e it fulscreen while working. I could make an enable/disable if you’d like? Does it resize out of your screen?

not it resizes to less then a quarter of my screen ;)

[lexaproductions]

not it resizes to less then a quarter of my screen ;)

Oh wow.
I don’t have a 4K screen so I don’t know. I’ll look into it later.

[lexaproductions]

Ok I looked it up a bit, but it's hard for me to know without a screen capture or anything.
Tell me what you use to change tabs asides from the project tab list. The Realive actions? or the native actions?

The whole thing works with 5 screensets. (From screenset #1 to screenset #5). So for each of them, try:
1- Load it
2- Resize it to the full size
3- Save it

Then see if it behaves properly.

[Finow79]

Hi!

Would like to use/ test it...
But how to install?
Can´t find any instruction info?

best regards

[Finow79]

Now I've got it.

1. create a portable install just for realive
2. droped the file in the main window of reaper
3. import/ extract the the files


After reastart reaper (with realive config) and setup my audio device ( RME Babyface with 8 i+o channels) i got this message:

Reascript Error

___Realive_MainAPI.lua:2766: attempt to call a nil value (field 'JS_Window_FindChildByID')

[lexaproductions]

You need js API and sws installed.

Edit:
What date was on the reaperconfig you used? I added an automatic JS install maybe it didn't work?

[Finow79]

You need js API and sws installed.
SWS is installed allready. How i install API?


Edit:
What date was on the reaperconfig you used? I added an automatic JS install maybe it didn't work?

I loaded it today?

[lexaproductions]

You make sure the most recent JS_API version is in the "User Plugins" folder

More infos:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=212174

[Finow79]

You make sure the most recent JS_API version is in the "User Plugins" folder

More infos:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=212174

installed ...

replaced it with a older one
Link: https://github.com/juliansader/ReaExtensions/blob/master/js_ReaScriptAPI/v1.217/reaper_js_ReaScriptAPI64.dll

Now its starting with no errors.



BTW:
On my mac i did a install too, unfortunaly it went to change my whole reaper, although I have created a separate folder for this. Can i draw it back?

[lexaproductions]

installed ...

replaced it with a older one
Link: https://github.com/juliansader/ReaExtensions/blob/master/js_ReaScriptAPI/v1.217/reaper_js_ReaScriptAPI64.dll

Now its starting with no errors.



BTW:
On my mac i did a install too, unfortunaly it went to change my whole reaper, although I have created a separate folder for this. Can i draw it back?
Ish
If you did a working portable install, and you install this in that portable install, I don’t see how the config could’ve overwritten the main install.
In your reaper resource path,there’s a “previous config folder”. Maybe You could retrieve your configuration from there.

[Finow79]

Ish
If you did a working portable install, and you install this in that portable install, I don’t see how the config could’ve overwritten the main install.


Obviously it did happen.
But it was because I made a mistake during the installation.
For Windows there is an easy way to do an portable installation. For mac this is not clear.
You have to do more than just create a separate folder.


At this point I realize that installation instructions are urgently needed. Or a couple of tutorials/ videos.

[DerTonmeister]

I need to change the default template to the needs of my band. How to remove tracks? Haha even as an experienced reaper user this thing feels like a new DAW for me. Would be so cool to have some tutorial videos from start to end.

One more thing: Does loopback routing allow midi routing, too? I need to create some tracks that send midi information to external gear. I wonder if I should route the midi direct out from every project or via the routing tab.

[lexaproductions]

I need to change the default template to the needs of my band. How to remove tracks? Haha even as an experienced reaper user this thing feels like a new DAW for me. Would be so cool to have some tutorial videos from start to end.

One more thing: Does loopback routing allow midi routing, too? I need to create some tracks that send midi information to external gear. I wonder if I should route the midi direct out from every project or via the routing tab.

The template is “Song.RPP” in the project template folder. Give the default another name and make yours the default.

Make sure you leave the “Structure“ track, “QsMaster” and “ClickMaster” folders intact in the template.
Also, make sure the template; AudioRouting.RPP is compatible with it.

I don’t know of any internal MIDI routing. If you’re on Mac, use the IAC Driver.

I have a whole bunch of videos in the making. I’m sorry I’m just very busy at the moment.

[DerTonmeister]

I have a whole bunch of videos in the making. I’m sorry I’m just very busy at the moment.

hell yeah, I'm very (!!!) looking forward to this.

[DerTonmeister]

any news here?

[Jesta]

This looks almost perfect for me to start using except for one thing. I found it surprising that there doesn't seem to be a separate routing for BASS. I've tried to work out how to add it myself, but I can't seem to do it without breaking something else! Can somebody please walk me through it (or maybe even update the template with a bass channel)? Any help greatly appreciated.

[DerTonmeister]

I'm also waiting for a walkthrough. I'd really like to use it for my band but I have to decide within the next weeks which way to take.

[hb80]

Would really like to give this a go but dropbox is empty? Does anyone have an alternative link? Thanks!

[lexaproductions]

This looks almost perfect for me to start using except for one thing. I found it surprising that there doesn't seem to be a separate routing for BASS. I've tried to work out how to add it myself, but I can't seem to do it without breaking something else! Can somebody please walk me through it (or maybe even update the template with a bass channel)? Any help greatly appreciated.

You need to setup and extra track in the Audio Routing tab with its own Loopback bus assignment.
Then in your song, you setup the Bass Buss with the same assignements. You then save both the Audio routing and the song as template over the ones that are currently there.

[tweed]

Sorry to ask...

changing, "default template" would encompass changing to I LOGIC V 3.90.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=214879


Super interested in REALIVE. Changing to I LOGIC V 3.90 theme essential for many reasons for me.

Now that i think a bit, 'default template' isn't default theme.

Whatever happens great thanks!

Possible to change to a different theme ?

[lexaproductions]

Sorry to ask...

changing, "default template" would encompass changing to I LOGIC V 3.90.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=214879


Super interested in REALIVE. Changing to I LOGIC V 3.90 theme essential for many reasons for me.

Now that i think a bit, 'default template' isn't default theme.

Whatever happens great thanks!

Possible to change to a different theme ?

You can change the theme the same way as usual.
But you'll have to play with the Theme Tweak Window to blend everything in.

[tweed]

Oh !!! heh-heh-heh

I'll have a go.


MANY GREAT THANKS '''lexaproductions'''

[chumbo]

Hi,
Just discovered this accidentally...super interesting and I think I could really use this!

Just a suggestion...since you recommend using a portable install - which makes sense for the reasons you've explained - couldn't you offer as an optional download to your existing package, a fully self-contained, ready-to-go portable install of Reaper with the SWS-Extensions & your package pre-configured?
This way, it's a one-click operation: download and run and Realive is ready to go!!
Cheers,
Chumbo

EDIT: I just installed it and I'm getting two errors on startup on a Win 10 machine (see attachments).

[lexaproductions]

Hi,
Just discovered this accidentally...super interesting and I think I could really use this!

Just a suggestion...since you recommend using a portable install - which makes sense for the reasons you've explained - couldn't you offer as an optional download to your existing package, a fully self-contained, ready-to-go portable install of Reaper with the SWS-Extensions & your package pre-configured?
This way, it's a one-click operation: download and run and Realive is ready to go!!
Cheers,
Chumbo

EDIT: I just installed it and I'm getting two errors on startup on a Win 10 machine (see attachments).

1- I don't think I can distribute a full REAPER install legally, so I just set up a Portable folder install with instructions on what to do. But the App download must be handled by the user.

2- On Windows, you must install SWS and JSAPI manually, I don't know how to force install them on my startup routine like I do on Mac. I'll add an auto warning about that.

[chumbo]

Great! Thx, that worked :-)
Yeah, I understand about packaging Reaper. I realized shortly after posting it might be a problem. No big deal anyway. It's all setup and ready to go in +- 5 min so...
Cheers,

[lexaproductions]

Great! Thx, that worked :-)
Yeah, I understand about packaging Reaper. I realized shortly after posting it might be a problem. No big deal anyway. It's all setup and ready to go in +- 5 min so...
Cheers,

Can you do me a favour? Start from scratch with a clean portable install and try to install this?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/20ro93yq5p8r81y/Realive-20211027_2.ReaperConfigZip?dl=0

I may have found what didn't work before on windows. But I can't test it, so I need your help.

[chumbo]

Can you do me a favour? Start from scratch with a clean portable install and try to install this?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/20ro93yq5p8r81y/Realive-20211027_2.ReaperConfigZip?dl=0

I may have found what didn't work before on windows. But I can't test it, so I need your help.

Sure, just did that and I'm afraid it's the exact same problem with the same errors.
But as I said before, when I installed the JS API as you instructed, it worked so...why sweat it? It's just a small additional step to get it all working!

[itamar92]

Hi
first of all I must say that what you've made here is amazing !
I've been using it for almost a year and it changed my whole setup and workflow

I made some changes of my own in the scripts and the naming and really got to every scripts you made just to read it :)

in the new update that you made - the click and guides in the audio routing tab keep disconnecting from the master sends on every play. I realised the thought about this but sometimes when I am building the show I like to hear the click and guid in the speakers.

how can I cancel that routing?
I've looked in the Realive API and didn't find the line that influence that...

many thanks

[lexaproductions]

Hi
first of all I must say that what you've made here is amazing !
I've been using it for almost a year and it changed my whole setup and workflow


in the new update that you made - the click and guides in the audio routing tab keep disconnecting from the master sends on every play. I realised the thought about this but sometimes when I am building the show I like to hear the click and guid in the speakers.

how can I cancel that routing?
I've looked in the Realive API and didn't find the line that influence that...

many thanks

Thanks for the love.

Your feedback is very valuable to me.
I set it up this way so that I don't always have to reroute the click whenever I use my laptop's speakers. But it's a good idea to be able to switch it off if needed.

So I just made the behaviour optional in the current version. You can download it at the same place:
You'll find the setting in this menu item:
Menu/Options/Audio Routing Tab/Automatically route the click...



I made some changes of my own in the scripts and the naming and really got to every scripts you made just to read it :)

I'm also curious about what you felt like changing on your side? It's good for me to be able to improve the whole thing.

Have a nice day

[lexaproductions]

Sure, just did that and I'm afraid it's the exact same problem with the same errors.
But as I said before, when I installed the JS API as you instructed, it worked so...why sweat it? It's just a small additional step to get it all working!

I think it might be working now. Like you said, it's not a big deal breaker, but I'm a stubborn person. lol

[itamar92]

I just made the behaviour optional in the current version. You can download it at the same place:
You'll find the setting in this menu item:
Menu/Options/Audio Routing Tab/Automatically route the click...


Wow that's perfect! thank you !


I'm also curious about what you felt like changing on your side? It's good for me to be able to improve the whole thing.


really not to much but small changes that will go with my workflow and habits:

first of all the naming- in the song template and the audio routing. and also in the realive.ini I've add the more names and groups for the sorting action.

at the pre version I've also cancelled the unarm tracks when playing action (I'm sometimes like to play thru reaper so the track must be armed so I could play. actually in the new version I couldent find it were I can cancelled it

at the pre versions, when there wasn't the action for add cues. I wrote a script (based on your script build click) that add midi note according to the regions name with the name of the region 1 bar before.
I used midi and not waves like you did now because it felt more flexible for me that way. but after I have download the new version the script dosent work any more :(
but I think I'm gonna try using your way for a while :)

[itamar92]

also -
every time you are uploading an update I need to edit the markers custom command for seeking to next song. because the command id that they have is not right.

another problem that I'm having and I'm wonder if you had it to -
if I put any compressor/limiter on one of the audio channels or master in the audio routing project, I'm having some glitches in the sound. not very often but every couple of minutes it happen while playing.

[lexaproductions]

Wow that's perfect! thank you !

first of all the naming- in the song template and the audio routing. and also in the realive.ini I've add the more names and groups for the sorting action.

at the pre version I've also cancelled the unarm tracks when playing action (I'm sometimes like to play thru reaper so the track must be armed so I could play. actually in the new version I couldent find it were I can cancelled it

at the pre versions, when there wasn't the action for add cues. I wrote a script (based on your script build click) that add midi note according to the regions name with the name of the region 1 bar before.
I used midi and not waves like you did now because it felt more flexible for me that way. but after I have download the new version the script dosent work any more :(
but I think I'm gonna try using your way for a while :)


1- If you don’t mind, can you share your naming addons so I can put them in my official build if they’re compatible with my config.

2- in Menu/Option/Audio Routing: you’ll find the disabling of arming/unarming of the audio routing. It juste stays on always. It does allows live inputs at all time.

3- I’ve ALWAYS wanted to make this MIDI but:
- There’s no built in ways to send midi between tabs (excluding the IAC Driver on Mac)
- When changing computer, RS5K’s presets loose their paths to the sample bank
So I’ve opted to keep it wave so the projects are more portable if shared between computers. But if you have a way to make it work with MIDI please do share it.

Thanks for the feedback. I’m glad to see it is intuitive enough for somebody to get it without training.

Have a nice day.

[lexaproductions]

also -
every time you are uploading an update I need to edit the markers custom command for seeking to next song. because the command id that they have is not right.

another problem that I'm having and I'm wonder if you had it to -
if I put any compressor/limiter on one of the audio channels or master in the audio routing project, I'm having some glitches in the sound. not very often but every couple of minutes it happen while playing.

1- It always works for me? Maybe I’m not sure which one you’re talking about. This I can/will fix. Need more infos.

2- This is usually Audio Device Buffering related.

[itamar92]

1- If you don’t mind, can you share your naming addons so I can put them in my official build if they’re compatible with my config.

Its really not so big thing.. when I build a show I like to add also the live instrument part (bass, drums,vocal,keys) also to the project. that way if one of the players not feeling good. or the singer don't have a voice for the rehearsal, we can continue play without them. so in my template I've added a folder with the live instruments, (drums live, bass live, keys live..)


2- in Menu/Option/Audio Routing: you’ll find the disabling of arming/unarming of the audio routing. It juste stays on always. It does allows live inputs at all time.

that's not what I meant.. as a keyboard player I like to use sound from vst in the reaper. so in order that I can play thru reaper I need the track to be always armed. in your setup when I going to live mode all the tracks are going unarmed.


3- I’ve ALWAYS wanted to make this MIDI but:
- There’s no built in ways to send midi between tabs (excluding the IAC Driver on Mac)
- When changing computer, RS5K’s presets loose their paths to the sample bank
So I’ve opted to keep it wave so the projects are more portable if shared between computers. But if you have a way to make it work with MIDI please do share it.

haha its not that complicated as you are describing. I've made a sample track with all the English guide samples and each English word I mapped to midi note.
The script recognises the regions name and according to name he knows which midi note to put.
On every region he add the command 1 bar before with a count of 2..3..4.. (verse, 2..3..4..) and if its a long phrase like "pre chorus" then the count is 3..4.. (Pre chorus, 3..4..)

its wasn't perfect but it is made my workflow allot faster. but after I downloaded your new version the script docent work any more because you've changed allot of thing. I'm not really knows how to code so the bug was too big for me to handle

[itamar92]

1- It always works for me? Maybe I’m not sure which one you’re talking about. This I can/will fix. Need more infos.

2- This is usually Audio Device Buffering related.

1. right click with the mouse and then choosing "switch to next song". when I choose one of the options it add a marker with a command id. but the command id is always incorrect so I need to find the right id command and paste it in the markers name. (I usually just change it in their script)

2. its not the buffer size... and its happing on every computer I try.

By the way, I really love the new option of changing the click sound or the voice command language ! it genius !!
could you add the click sound of Ableton too? :D

[lexaproductions]

That's not what I meant.. as a keyboard player I like to use sound from vst in the reaper. so in order that I can play thru reaper I need the track to be always armed. in your setup when I going to live mode all the tracks are going unarmed.


Aaaah ok. I made that a while ago and forgot about it. lol. Just made it optional


haha its not that complicated as you are describing. I've made a sample track with all the English guide samples and each English word I mapped to midi note.
The script recognizes the regions name and according to name he knows which midi note to put.
On every region he add the command 1 bar before with a count of 2..3..4.. (verse, 2..3..4..) and if its a long phrase like "pre chorus" then the count is 3..4.. (Pre chorus, 3..4..)

its wasn't perfect but it is made my workflow allot faster. but after I downloaded your new version the script docent work any more because you've changed allot of thing. I'm not really knows how to code so the bug was too big for me to handle


I hear you. I have faith that I will find a way to make it work with MIDI... Makes more sense to me also. But I really don't want to recopy the whole sample library to all project every time I use it so I'll wait until I find the best solution.
Also a HUGE con to this, is the fact that RS5k is not multi-timbral. So you must use one sampler per sample. I know it can work but the idea of having 150 plug-ins on a track gives me chill. hahahaha.

So it's gonna stay like this for now. Maybe your script can inspire me. Send it over in a private message and I'll have a look. If I can at least lead you on how to make it work again...


right click with the mouse and then choosing "switch to next song". when I choose one of the options it add a marker with a command id. but the command id is always incorrect so I need to find the right id command and paste it in the markers name. (I usually just change it in their script)


I really tried to duplicate this but I couldn't

When you install Realive, do you manually change any paths name in your portable install? The cmdids should be the same if the path in the Resources folder stays the same?


its not the buffer size... and its happing on every computer I try.


Have you looked at both the block size and the buffering in the preferences? Asides from those I don't know...



By the way, I really love the new option of changing the click sound or the voice command language ! it genius !!
could you add the click sound of Ableton too?


Also added Ableton and Logic Click sounds in the new build...

[itamar92]

When you install Realive, do you manually change any paths name in your portable install? The cmdids should be the same if the path in the Resources folder stays the same?.
I use it as portable install so its not in the same path like the original install. I put it on my desktop.
other then that I didn't change anything


Have you looked at both the block size and the buffering in the preferences? Asides from those I don't know...
.

yes, checked them both


Also added Ableton and Logic Click sounds in the new build...

wow ! your amazing :)
thanks for keep improving things. its like waiting for the new version of cubase/reaper. so here is to wait for the new version of Realive :D

I will send you my script, also I will send you a link to the whole portable install so you can see it working

[tweed]

Enjoyed starting out to truly understand REALIVE this eve.
My prediction, similar to others, is that this is astonishingly
great. (Comments-observations- little questions ASAP)

And, once people get into it I'm sure hopeful REALIVE
will really take off for tons of us and get better and better.

This is such a creation of, well, love and passion in my view... the very least i can do is to attempt to understand the astonishing depths (eventually!)... :-)

I had a incredible time switching between songs -- after simply dragging a stereo mix to one of the few "new project" i created by right clicking on the left column.

I love details, i love depth, so I'll keep this short as I've not even scratched the surface.

MY GOAL is to see if, after getting to an intermediate stage with the backing tracks working... to see if I can incorporate LIVECONFIGS tab (long story on how I've tried to over?-ambitiously use liveconfigs over the years and never quite succeeded)

@mschnell i believe mentioned incorporating into his system perhaps..(LIVECONFIGS etc)

OK, taking up space here... as I haven't got much that's practical to add.

Just realized tonight that there's a ton that goes into a professional live system. Absolutely had my eyes opened tonight.

P.S. I agree with @dazastah (page one here) - BLOODY AMAZING !!!


WINDOWS 11 (IM MY OPINION: damn it's cleaner - and gets rid of time-suck options like live-tiles were for many of us - highly recommended - outrageously nice settings look and feel and layout now - super easy upgrade even on my old ATOM processor!! surface 3 !! weeks back, with a bit of fussing)
TIP??: uncheck/defeat the "update drivers" (during install) by clicking on the link and doing what's logical. can't quite say that better right now.

I just downloaded the ISO and double clicked on it and did an install in place. What i always do.

[lexaproductions]

Thanks for the love.
Haven’t look much on the Liveconfig thing. Will do

Tip: double click the list window to make a new project 😉

[tweed]

EDIT ADDED: WOW, just noticed there's several themes!
Options / Default Menu:Main options (at bottom of list) / Themes


-------------

NICE lexaproductions!!

on LIVECONFIGS - I went way deep several years ago.(would need to think and try stuff again to remember)

I stopped for a long while trying to perfect a LIVECONFIGS for my needs,, as i got stuck on making an Arduino Footswitch.
AND, couldn't decide, technically, whether to use tabs (all in one instance) or two instances of REAPER.



One of the tests though... was using two instances of REAPER. one instance for the backing tracks and one instance for the LIVECONFIGS switching of live inputs and playing stuff through REAPER.

LIVECONFIGS: ~> microphone inputs - guitar inputs - playing VST keyboard instruments - basically the whole band playing through REAPER.

With everything able to change by auto-loading track templates. (my choice of methods)

Also, saving track templates (with simple setable key command) was a very creative way to create playable sounds without having to fuss with anything other than creating sounds FAST (then just quickly save a track-template of however many instrument tracks crated the sound).

Then, later, they can be laid out in LIVECONFIGS list and kinda, 'location memorized' then. Making creating sounds free from having to think about organizing them.

BACK TO REALIVE:

Using LIVE-CONFIGS within REALIVE -- I guess, would require a TAB being available that was separate from the automatic layout stuff that happens when a new tab is created in REALIVE.

For my tests (which may LIKELY result in totally wanting to leave REALIVE untouched by LIVECONFIGS. a LIVECONFIGS instance of REAPER probably more logical MAYBE - i guess there's a simply question.

QUESTION: Is it easy somehow to add a tab in REALIVE that's NOT connected to the automatic stuff that happens when we use menu item, "NEW PROJECT TAB"



It's getting very interesting with REALIVE - I have taken a look at the REALIVE actions list by searching for 'REALIVE' in the Actions list (F12)- I was SPEECHLESS !!!! heh-heh

P.S. I NOW use and like/appreciate the REALIVE theme you're using -- The minimalist look of the track list options (pan, volume, routing icon etc.) They all layout super nicely, all in one long thin line when track list widened!


I'll keep happily trying stuff... tons to look into and try with REALIVE alone... no rush at all with me - enJOY weekend...!

best wishes to all.

[lexaproductions]

In the Menu/Options/Realive prefs you can disable the auto switching On/Off of the audio routing. That way the Audio Routing is always live and you can make VI tracks in every songs always Rec Enabled.
God thing with this is that all the VIs of all the songs are not on all the time.

For a Live playback setup you should only be using the Realive actions. There is a lot of under the hood so uff that happens when using the Realive actions together.

[tweed]

EDIT: uhhh... just looked properly at the REALIVE PREFS. MUCH to consider, potentially making some of the following, written earlier, moot - Then again... I'm "smart-enough slowly", which isn't, 'brilliantly quick'. hahaha

EDIT 2: love the, "open project over current tab"

SMILES: I am certain that going deep enough with REALIVE will give unprecedented LIVE potential to us all.
Plus, you're so receptive to comments, so everyone can add their voice!
I'm just getting to the point where REALIVE learning stuff feels like incredible discoveries. Outrageously comprehensive!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ below written earlier ~~~~~~~

SUPERB...!!! Great Tips! will think on them and try stuff.

Haven't worked with REALIVE yet this eve, though long-term interested mainly in adding a the LIVE inputs tab as touched on.


JUST being able to load and save track templates in a tab that routes to chose-able audio outputs VIA REALIVE's routing tab without the tab automatically adding all the REALIVE goodie to it.

These record monitoring ON track templates would be:
-- playable keyboard VST instuments with midi-inputs
-- maybe microphone and guitar LIVE audio inputs

Will work this evening with your comments. THANKS!!!!!!!!!

Ambitious though ultimately a sensible goal as I've fantasizing for nearly a decade on REAPER LIVE, and made some progress with a 'slick-for-me' loading and saving of track templates within the LIVECONFIGS system many years ago now. heh-heh.


AND NOW BACK TO REALIVE CURRENT STUDY:

So,getting nicely into looking around at the vast and wonderful actions list... and the menus of course.

Things I'm going to look into tonight along with all i can learn:

1) i find myself going up to click on "View/Project Tab List a lot. I'm guessing that when proficient at REALIVE there's good reason for the auto-unchecking of show project tab option.

2) same with going full screen and then REALIVE auto-resizing itself. NOTE: i'll go over all the comments here from the top again as i though maybe the full-screen aspect was mentioned. (4K monitor reference)


[UNDERSTATEMENT ALERT]
REALLY enjoying REALIVE and the great vibe here!

[lexaproductions]

1) i find myself going up to click on "View/Project Tab List a lot. I'm guessing that when proficient at REALIVE there's good reason for the auto-unchecking of show project tab option.

2) same with going full screen and then REALIVE auto-resizing itself. NOTE: i'll go over all the comments here from the top again as i though maybe the full-screen aspect was mentioned. (4K monitor reference)


1- Are you saying the auto-show keeps on unchecking itself? Can’t you just leave e the side do always showing

2- if you look at the help file in option menu, you’ll have a list of needed screensets and how resave each of the to your screen size. For example you go in live mode then you drag the corner of the window to make it full screen. Then you hit CtlShft F1 to save it. It’s important that you don’t change the order of the screen sets
Once this is done you have the windows perfect every time.

[tweed]

Incredible coincidence!?!
I was reading through all the posts again and was JUST ABOUT at PAGE 2: POST #72 when a got an email that you'd replied. PAGE 2 here: POST #72 explains the screensets - THANKS AGAIN !!!

and yes, auto show keeps unchecking itself -- though I'm guessing it's likely because I'm just this evening transitioning over to the REALIVE actions list for more understanding, and had previously been clicking about somewhat randomly a whole lot.

I've begun to make notes about observations / puzzling bits etc.
two notes so far just about key commands for action list.

1) i believe that almost every key command for an action that uses an accented letter (e and u) has a secondary key command as well.

2) I am looking into what i thought was a way to decommission nearly all the default Windows 10/11 keycommands, such as windowskey-M etc. I seem to recall a lot of them can be turned off. Can't recall the finer points at the moment.

GOING GREAT HERE!
Soon I'll be at an intermediate stage of understanding i expect!

AGAIN: anyone considering getting past the initial REALIVE puzzlement...

I cannot recommend REALIVE highly enough. Portable install for sure.(for now at least) 1) Work in REAPER regular install version until backing tracks done, then: 2) put backing tracks into REALIVE portable install. The more i look and try stuff then more comfortable i get. duh! heh-heh

I re-read the first post's explanation again, now that i have a beginner's practical understanding based on a couple of hours, over a couple of evening study and use.


========= NEXT DAY ADDITIONAL =========
yep,i recall needing/wishing to: search string ~> {{ Disable the Built-In “Windows Key” Shortcuts }}
I did this a few years back when i spending lots of time with REAPER.
Have lots of spare time again for the next several months so will be working through a bunch of aspect of course.
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[LiskY]

Hi,
I have problem with realive.
I did everything as per the forum instructions but it still doesn't work ...
Portable version, SWS installed, JSAPI dumped into UserPlugins folder.

[lexaproductions]

To install Realive did you drag and drop on the arrange view?

[LiskY]

Yes,after pressing OK - 'configuration change'. an error appears (screen in attachments)

[lexaproductions]

Ok, this is new to me. Maybe your download was corrupted. Have you tried to re-download?

[tweed]

Just back from almost 2 weeks away!

@LiskY

Yep, great guess on download maybe corrupted.

[??]
Did you try via Options/Preferences/General and then IMPORT CONFIGURATION

You'll probably need to wait a few minutes with this method while it checks everything.



And, i guess you created portable version via standard installer and the portable checkbox? (as i recall doing i think)

No reply needed of course if you've got REALIVE working!
Looking forward to time later this week!

[lexaproductions]

Thé download was indeed corrupted
I believed it is now corrected

[tweed]

@LiskY

just getting going here again... will edit this to detail what i did to quickly get a fresh working portable install.

AFTER I got the "Error opening REaperConfigZip" when i tried loading the newly downloaded version. (thanks hugely lexaproductions -)

I was planning to start fresh with my "played around with" version from a few weeks back so all is good!

Took just a few minutes and works great!
WILL edit this now AFTER posting this info.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


WINDOWS 11 HERE - works terrifically... SO much cleaner than windows 10 - effortless free upgrade.

OK, so creating a fresh REALIVE PORTABLE version: (really over-thinking it here as i write this)

1) fresh download of REALIVE, via link from first page here, page 1, and, the download link is found right under the REALIVE logic banner.
It says: "Click this to get the whole thing"

2) I extract the REALIVE zip to my desktop. inside is the Realive.xxx.xxx.reaperConfigZip AND a reaper.ini file in a folder (in a folder-)

3) I use the latest REAPER DEV version (don't know if it's proper to post the link here)-- Anyways, during an install of REAPER there's a portable installation checkbox which i select of course. I've earlier created a folder on my desktop called REAPER - i install into that folder, being sure to check the portable install box of course.

4) after install i run it once where/when a lot of folders and files will get created from running it.

5)(FIRST TIME DOING THIS this WAY) ~> I go to my old installation (C:\REAPER_old-portable\UserPlugins) and get those two files:

reaper_js_ReaScriptAPI64.dll
reaper_sws-x64.dll

Not sure what gets missed by not installing at least SWS (grooves i guess) YET: seems to work, and maybe I'll learn something new, that it's fine and faster - heh-heh

6)For the first time since learning REALIVE i go into the REAPER folder and rename reaper.ini to reaper_ORIG.ini AND THEN i go to the REALIVE "For Portable Install"
folder and find the reaper.ini and put IT IN the REAPER folder.

7) Now i start up REAPER (this new portable version) and go to Options/Preferences and at the top there's "General" ~> selecting that i see there's IMPORT CONFIGURATION. i click that and navigate to the Realive.xxx.xxx.reaperConfigZip... and the magic happens... I WAIT a couple of minutes UNTIL the import button is ready to click on (lots happens as the config import thinks it through - you'll see movement of the scroll-bar)

I click "IMPORT" - EVERYTHING Finishes - I'm told a restart is needed via a dialog box.




OK rushing a bit here (just got back)... so hope that's clear.... was good for me to think it through and write it all in super basic fashion... I will remember better for having done it.


best to all
no reply needed - which also means, write any time of course!

[lexaproductions]

Someone could confirm but I did try to make the install of sws and js automatic with the Realive import. Let me know if it works.

[tweed]

@lexaproductions !!!


OH YES, it's been a couple of weeks or so...

UPDATE COMMENT: YES, it IS automatic... NO NEED to manually copy/install etc.

~~>> " install of sws and js automatic with the Realive import "


I forgot about that in my hurry... all really great. Thanks for useful remind!

[DaveInIndy]

I'm posting this here because I suspect Lexaproductions figured out how to do this in ReaLive.
I don't need much of the feature set in ReaLive, but I love the idea of using one project tab as the mixing bus. I'd have each song open in it's own project tab, managing all the inputs, bussing FX etc by song, then sending each final bus output to the Mixer project tab (using loopback). In the Mixer tab at each gig or rehearsal, I would control balance (4 vocals, some guitars), turn Click track output on or off, master reverb on/off. I would otherwise not interact with the Mixing tab. I WILL have each song tab active to turn FX on off, which means the Mixer tab is unselected. And of course audio output for unselected projects can't be heard. Dang.
Is there a way to accomplish that? IE all song tabs only have sends to a background tab, where all the outputs need to be heard. Seems like ReaLive must pull this off...?

[lexaproductions]

I'm posting this here because I suspect Lexaproductions figured out how to do this in ReaLive.

I don't need much of the feature set in ReaLive, but I love the idea of using one project tab as the mixing bus. I'd have each song open in it's own project tab, managing all the inputs, bussing FX etc by song, then sending each final bus output to the Mixer project tab (using loopback). In the Mixer tab I would control balance (4 vocals, some guitars), turn Click track output on or off, master reverb on/off. I have to have each song tab active to turn FX on off, which means the Mixer tab is unselected. And of course audio output in unselected projects doesn't get sent. Is there a way to accomplish that? IE all song tabs only have sends to a background tab, where all the outputs need to be heard. Seems like ReaLive must pull this off...?

Realive is not a mixing tool. It is tailored as a playback tool. But if I understand your needs well, you can easily accomplish it in a stock reaper install.

See this post:
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=1796913&postcount=5

[DaveInIndy]

Realive is not a mixing tool. It is tailored as a playback tool. But if I understand your needs well, you can easily accomplish it in a stock reaper install.

See this post:
https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=1796913&postcount=5

Thx. That is how I'm sending audio to the second project, yes. Of course after I asked, I finally found this post that does what I want.
https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=143150

However I don't know what CPU demand this may add with 20 projects open. The loopback is glitchy sounding but I need to check some settings.

I am using Reaper live, but I don't play any prerecorded track content (maybe a sample or two). All instruments are live. I use Reaper as a pedal board for guitars effects and vocal effects, all live. I have done this using LiveConfigs (all songs in one tab) and then Snapshots (switching tabs per song). I prefer the latter but want to address some issues... like managing overall output levels, turning off vocal reverb for gigs but keeping it for rehearsals (no outboard reverb). ReaLive gave me some ideas on how to try this.

[lexaproductions]

Thx. That is how I'm sending audio to the second project, yes. Of course after I asked, I finally found this post that does what I want.
https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=143150

However I don't know what CPU demand this may add with 20 projects open. The loopback is glitchy sounding but I need to check some settings.


The way I do it is:
Enable Run Background Projects
Disable Run Stopped Background Projects

Then you, keep your main routing project running at all times and play enable the project you need only.
This will allow you to have up to 128 opened songs without killing too much your CPU, as you'll never have more than 2-3 songs enabled at all time.

ReaLive gave me some ideas on how to try this.
Great!

[DaveInIndy]

The way I do it is:
Enable Run Background Projects
Disable Run Stopped Background Projects

Then you, keep your main routing project running at all times and play enable the project you need only.
This will allow you to have up to 128 opened songs without killing too much your CPU, as you'll never have more than 2-3 songs enabled at all time.


Great!

Been testing the audio quality and performance of my approach (audio out from each project to one mixing project in background). Fail. Audio is horrid with more than a handful of projects open at once when Run Stopped Background Projects is checked (same if also checking Play Stopped Background Projects). Audio out when playing even a single wav file from a track from any project gives crunch sound with time, tempo losses. Doing this with a loopback between tabs is slightly worse. Watching the Performance Meter, clicking Run Stopped... on raises CPU demand from ~7% to 35-45%, and audio tanks at about 38-40%.

As far as I can tell I need to have Run Stopped Background Projects enabled in order to use one project tab as a mixer. Not the end of the world, just wanted to try something new. I am curious if others see this same CPU demand jump.

[lexaproductions]

No. You uncheck run stopped projects
Then you make sure you’re mixing project is always playing. (Either with a loop or freewheel)
I can ensure you, I run 128 projects on a 2012 MacBook Pro with REALIVE.
You just make sure you have the right buffer settings set.

[DaveInIndy]

[QUOTE=l...Then you make sure you’re mixing project is always playing. (Either with a loop or freewheel)
[/QUOTE]

Thx again, I really appreciate the hands on experience. If I uncheck Run Stopped, audio only plays if the mixing tab is selected. Is this what you observe in "normal" Reaper? While playing, I need each song aka project to be selected because I use midi to change guitar and vocal effects mid-song. This is not the construct of Realive, I know: I was hoping to meld the two, but I think this point is the stopper.

Background, maybe it gives you an idea for possible fit with Realive- I use Reaper with two 80s cover bands. It's my guitar effects and switcher (electric and acoustic) and provides mic effects for 4 mics, sometimes also play my keys or an FX unit. On a few I play pad sounds from the pedal board (SampleOMatic wav files). I send all 6-8 source channels out as lines to the mixing console. In rehearsals I add reverb to vocals, turning that off Live to let the sound guy control that. My favorite setup for Live has each song in separate tabs, using SWS Project Mgmt to call them all up in order as set lists, 18 or so per set. Midi pedal switches between projects, and SWS Snapshots switches mute + Sends on FX tracks mid-song. I've used LiveConfigs too but love the simplicity and visibility of Snapshots. I don't Play (Reaper transport) anything on any song except in my practice time (each project has tempo, a bit of click track, the original artist version and sometimes a drum machine track for rehearsing, muted otherwise). A quick glance confirms I'm on the right song via an image in the top track. I would need to redo so much to use Realive... but I need to explore it as I love the front control tab concept for one-stop level changes and FX control. I avoided the one-project approach because of people's issues with tempo when swapping order of Regions, plus needing to change how I control FX. I see advantages to it as well, but this is where I am.

[lexaproductions]

Thx again, I really appreciate the hands on experience. If I uncheck Run Stopped, audio only plays if the mixing tab is selected.


If you have the right background preferences set, then you leave the Routing tab playing at all times and then whichever tab is frontmost will have it's audio playing.



Is this what you observe in "normal" Reaper? While playing, I need each song aka project to be selected because I use midi to change guitar and vocal effects mid-song. This is not the construct of Realive, I know: I was hoping to meld the two, but I think this point is the stopper.

Background, maybe it gives you an idea for possible fit with Realive- I use Reaper with two 80s cover bands. It's my guitar effects and switcher (electric and acoustic) and provides mic effects for 4 mics, sometimes also play my keys or an FX unit. On a few I play pad sounds from the pedal board (SampleOMatic wav files). I send all 6-8 source channels out as lines to the mixing console. In rehearsals I add reverb to vocals, turning that off Live to let the sound guy control that. My favorite setup for Live has each song in separate tabs, using SWS Project Mgmt to call them all up in order as set lists, 18 or so per set. Midi pedal switches between projects, and SWS Snapshots switches mute + Sends on FX tracks mid-song. I've used LiveConfigs too but love the simplicity and visibility of Snapshots. I don't Play (Reaper transport) anything on any song except in my practice time (each project has tempo, a bit of click track, the original artist version and sometimes a drum machine track for rehearsing, muted otherwise). A quick glance confirms I'm on the right song via an image in the top track. I would need to redo so much to use Realive... but I need to explore it as I love the front control tab concept for one-stop level changes and FX control. I avoided the one-project approach because of people's issues with tempo when swapping order of Regions, plus needing to change how I control FX. I see advantages to it as well, but this is where I am.

But that's exactly how REALIVE works. The way I do it, is I automatically play the Routing tab whenever any other tab is playing. There is also an option to always leave the Routing tab playing at all times, to facilitate live playing. But that will be CPU "hungrier" as the Routing tab will always be playing at all times, enabling everything that's in it. But I believe this is the option you're looking for. But still you should be able to have a decent amount of opened tabs without killing your CPU.


Maybe I don't understand well your needs, but if I do, you could ALMOST use REALIVE without any change to your workflow.

[LiskY]

Hi,
I'm sorry for the lack of response. Downloading realive by another browser helped but I have a new problem...
I arm the track in the project and save it. After reopening the track is not armed ...

[lexaproductions]

You can disable the behavior there:
Menu->Options->Disarm All Tracks On Live View

Disable this and let me know if it still does it.

[LiskY]

Thank you, it works :)
That's not a problem now, but questions.

1. I did not read on the forum - managed to solve the problem with the shrinking window after moving to the next song? (windows 10). Saving a project on fullscreen doesn't do anything.

2. Despite the armed track, the VST instruments do not play until the playback starts - is it possible to start the listening session without playing the song?

[lexaproductions]

1-You must save the window sets to your screen size.
For each window set (#1 to #5) you must:

Load it
Stretch it to your screen
Save it

Menu->Options->Show Realive Help File: The "Window sets section" at the top of the list, explains which one you must preset manually

2- Menu->Options->Realive Preferences->Activate audio routing tab only while playing
You need to disable this for the Audio Routing to always be active. I believe it does take a bit more CPU.

[Hambone68]

This seems to be a much better version of a similar project I've been working on for a while, but there really needs to be a getting started guide at the very least. It all installs just fine with no errors on a Windows 10 20H2 fully updated machine, but once it's installed, I have no clue on how to get going with it. How do I set up a show?

Also, a few small bug reports from what I've seen so far:
1. The transport toolbar does not display properly in many circumstances. For example, I run with my taskbar vertically on the left side of the screen. With this configuration, it's impossible to access some of the transport buttons because the toolbar assumes a home location of 0,0 regardless of whether that's actually the case. On my system, the home location is closer to 0,100 because of the task bar. Similar issues happen when the REAPER window isn't fullscreen. Buttons are also often obscured behind the status info depending on the size of the window.

2. The Big Clock doesn't seem to be able to be moved or edited. In a default unchanged install, it winds up near the middle of the screen, but if window positions get reset, it parks itself at 0,0 on the screen and makes life VERY difficult. The only way to recover is to edit the reaper-windowpos.ini file. How do I do move and/or resize the clock? Also, how do I prevent it from re-opening every time I change window sets?

Sorry if it seems like a lot of complaint - this really does look to be exactly what I've been trying to do with REAPER, I just need help figuring it out!

[tweed]

LOVING the LATEST version ! jan.10.2022

AND, just now i noticed that a MANUAL has been added. [!!!!!!!!!!!!]


wOw and wOnderful.



back home in a few days and keen to continue with REALIVE discoveries again... been away for a month!


best wishes to all.

[lexaproductions]

Oh yeah. And there's a release from today that includes quite a few bug fixes and a CSI setup that I've been working on.

These last two week, I've understood how to include blinking to gfx windows, and it helps a lot to get visual feedback of tempo and such.

Enjoy and thanks to the overwhelming amount of people who donated. It REALLY means the world to me and support me in all the countless hours I've spent on this.

Thanks everybody!!!

[tweed]

Great mentions!

Looking forward to being in a position to get some energy back via donations link on page1 here...

(energy=money)--> for all the most truly incredible, amazingness, you've provided me/us-all.-)

Coincidentally I've been working on a project for 2 seasons and payday isn't too far off...

REALIVE, and understanding REALIVE is Ground-breaking. Yep!

[tweed]

Finally Back with my gear!
windows 11

QUESTION at bottom here: (i recall mention of changing themes - though i Do like the REALIVE_V16 theme!)

I'm starting working with the fabulous new Feb.04.2022 version of REALIVE - and have finally understood the super-cool way to do a portable install (thanks for portable notes!)

1) from RealiveConfigs.zip drag "REAPER" folder from within 'For Portable Install" to desktop (or anywhere - as everything will be in there)

2) there's a blank reaper.ini file in there which i leave alone.

3) I put latest version of REAPER installer in there. I use the DEV versions from landoleet.org. Fine if not put in there before installing REAPER though must install TO that folder.

4) After installing to that REAPER folder and launching I simply drag the Realive-20220204.ReaperConfigZip ONTO the running REAPER, and your scripts do the necessary installing of the extras needed including SWS etc. AFTER the understandably long wait before the IMPORT config button becomes possible to click... greyed out for a minute of two.

FABULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!


MY QUESTION: i notice that your custom menus make changing themes easy... under OPTIONS...


I like the REALIVE_V16 and am also having a play with my much loved 'blankfiles' brilliant iLogic3.90 which now comes with two versions.

So I put the two new themes in the ColorThemes folder in the portable REAPER install folder...
ULTIMATE.ReaperThemeZip
and
I Logic V3 Big WC.ReaperThemeZip


they both work and are fun to try - though yeah, I love the REALIVE_V16 a lot.. which i thought you noted has some blankfiles theme magic in it as well.

OK, so....

**** except for the obvious - like, needing to re-save screensets to accommodate mixer sizing...

ARE there any limitation to using another theme specifically? Like missing or non-working aspects...

Of course I do NOT "import" the full configs that come with the two iLogic 3.90 themes!

Sorry i didn't put this at the top.... figured someone might find my new understanding useful on portable version.

THANK YOU --- INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


*** UPDATE COMMENT: in point 4) above, the reason it was taking a long time for the IMPORT button to NOT be greyed-out is 'cause i was experimenting on super slow little laptop. (atom processor)

Fast to show import button not greyed-out now on home PC !!! ***

[lexaproductions]

No functionality is theme dependent. You can use whichever theme you see fit. You might want to play with the colours a bit in the theme tweaker to make everything uniform. But that's it.

[itamar92]

Hi,
how can I change/update the file "sws-autocoloricon" to be with my current changes?

Instead of always changing the color scheming after your updates it will be easier to copy and paste that file from the old configuration :)

[itamar92]

I would love to add to the sorting list a "Live " naming.

in my template I have a folder of Live instruments. (Drums,Bass,Keys,GTR.Lead Voc)

that way in case one of the members couldn't come or can't play/sing - I have a backup channel for him :)

the folder is in the song template and in the audio routing template

So my request is a sorting role that will recognise the word "live" in the track name and will sort it to the right track according to their name - Drums Live, Bass Live...

Thank you !

[lexaproductions]

Hi,
how can I change/update the file "sws-autocoloricon" to be with my current changes?

Instead of always changing the color scheming after your updates it will be easier to copy and paste that file from the old configuration :)

Well, you can backup that file before doing an update and change it back after the update?

[itamar92]

Well, you can backup that file before doing an update and change it back after the update?

the "sws-autocoloricon.ini" ?

how can I create that backup file?

the sws-autocoloricon file is not updating after I'm making any changes.

[lexaproductions]

I believe it is when you close the app? To backup, you juste copy the file somewhere else and re-paste it in the resources folder after upgrading. Reaper should always copy whatever is changes in the "prev config" folder. So your old file should always be in there.

These last few updates, I'm only working on my scripts so you can just import the scripts when you upgrade and you should be good.

[itamar92]

I believe it is when you close the app? To backup, you juste copy the file somewhere else and re-paste it in the resources folder after upgrading. Reaper should always copy whatever is changes in the "prev config" folder. So your old file should always be in there.

These last few updates, I'm only working on my scripts so you can just import the scripts when you upgrade and you should be good.

how did you create the sws auto colors file? with the ini.

to what scripts do you mean when saying " you can just import the scripts when you upgrade "?

Do mean to the sorting changes I was asking?

[lexaproductions]

Sorry if I was not clear.
the sws color file is created by sws when you change something in the "Auto Color/Icon/Layout". But I guess you knew that if you changed it...

When you drag a new config file, REAPER shows you a dialog in which you can select you want to import from the config file. You do so with the check marks on the items on the left part of the window. If you leave only the scripts enabled, only the scripts from the new config file will be imported.

For the "Sorting stuff", it is a bit involved as you need a master Category (Live) in the template and then sort Drums/Bass/Keyz/Guitar/Vocal within that folder. My sorting is not setup for 2-level sorting.

For now, I suggest you use the Drums/Bass/KeyzMain/LeadVocals/GuitarElect or Acoustic for you backup busses.

[itamar92]

Sorry if I was not clear.
the sws color file is created by sws when you change something in the "Auto Color/Icon/Layout". But I guess you knew that if you changed it...

.

yes I knew that. and yet the file remain like your template even when I change it...
I mean when I open the ini file in sublime Text. (and yes also in reaper - I use two portable installs for these kind of test. Every update you make I need to do these tests :)

about the sorting - its ok , I will do it manually :)

[lexaproductions]

Ok, then I'm not sure I understand:

You're saying that you make changes in the Auto-Coloring scheme in your setup? and then when you reimport a config, those auto-coloring scheme are overwritten by mine?
You're talking about the tracks coloring or about the Markers/Region Coloring?
Maybe a screenshot would help me understand?

[itamar92]

Ok, then I'm not sure I understand:

You're saying that you make changes in the Auto-Coloring scheme in your setup? and then when you reimport a config, those auto-coloring scheme are overwritten by mine?
You're talking about the tracks coloring or about the Markers/Region Coloring?
Maybe a screenshot would help me understand?

in the ini file :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tljlsclul9m3w6p/Sws%20auto%20coloring%20in%20Reaper.png?dl=0

in Reaper:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mxz0ndrj717uy34/Sws%20auto%20coloring%20ini%20file.png?dl=0

but I actually checked again and it work ��
the file just doesn't show the changes...

thanks again :D

[lexaproductions]

Ok cool

[lexaproductions]

And I strongly suggest getting a Behringer XTouch Mini to control REALIVE. The new CSI setup takes it to another level!!!

[itamar92]

couple of questions:

1. how can I use the OSC template that in the data folder? I loaded the project to my iPad and connected the OSC touch with the bridge, I checked the ports and the ip but nothing is happening.. am I missing anything?

2. ever since the new update the live view keep switching randomly without me doing anything..
when I'm in edit view, sometimes when I even editing something and sometimes when the view just stays in the edit view - its switches by it self fo the live view... Is this on purpose? is there a way to cancel it?

Thanks again :)

[lexaproductions]

1- Which OSC stuff are you talking about? I just looked again and there is no OSC folder in the data folder? Are you talking about the CSI stuff? Or setting up TouchOSC?

2- I feel there is a midi key command setup somewhere. I didn't set up anything in that sense.

[itamar92]

1- Which OSC stuff are you talking about? I just looked again and there is no OSC folder in the data folder? Are you talking about the CSI stuff? Or setting up TouchOSC?

The ToucOSC


2- I feel there is a midi key command setup somewhere. I didn't set up anything in that sense.

but its not even running.. and it is also sometime stop the play

[lexaproductions]

The ToucOSC



but its not even running.. and it is also sometime stop the play

This oughta be coming from a command. There is nothing that I can think of on the coding's side. Maybe if you try to elaborate a pattern when it happens.

[hallobillies]

Hello!

I've just started looking into using Reaper in an expanded role for live shows. Right now I use it solely for recording an XR18 multitrack output so that I can mix the live show afterwards for posting youtube videos, etc.

We do not currently use any pre-recorded stems in our show, everything is played live. However that may change soon. What I would like to do in the meantime is use realive to organize the setlist, send MIDI cues to our lighting program, and play a click track only for the first 30 seconds or so of the song. We don't want to play with a click the entire song but like the idea of starting out at the 'right' tempo.

My question is whether or not realive is the right tool to accomplish this. I am still somewhat new to DAWs in general. I am a musician first, engineer 2nd 😀
Would we still be able to record the XR18 outputs using Realive? Thanks!

[lexaproductions]

Yes you can accomplish this
Just enable the "force edit mode" and disable the auto-disarm-tracks feature in the Realive preferences in the option menu

Keep in mind that Realive is optimized for playback in live situations. Moving away all recording and editing features to focus on the task at hand. But it will work.

[itamar92]

hey, I've got a couple of minor bugs that annoy me:

- "gradually transition tempo change to next marker" doesn't really work. it doesn't make any change to the tempo

- export does not always get the right stems. when I fill in in the "all stems" 0 and in the "original" 100 it still renders all the stems without the original. when I do it again (without changing anything) it comes out fine. and the opposite around

another thing about the export - how can I change the naming method to be the full name of the song and not only the first letter of every word? in the earlier version of Realive it was like that and then you change it...

- How does the new Reasampler Mode work? could it work like the regular live mode with stems?

- The compressor on the Cues Buss that you have added in the new update, is different from the compressors that were in the earlier versions on the Cue Busses?

by the way, it will be great if you could post a thread every time you upload a new version. the updates are great and very important!

Thanks again for this amazing product :)

[lexaproductions]

hey, I've got a couple of minor bugs that annoy me:. Sorry for being annoying. ;)

- "gradually transition tempo change to next marker" doesn't really work. it doesn't make any change to the tempo
It should be working if you add Stretch markers to the item before adding your Tempo change. Let me know if it doesn't work.

- export does not always get the right stems. when I fill in in the "all stems" 0 and in the "original" 100 it still renders all the stems without the original. when I do it again (without changing anything) it comes out fine. and the opposite around. Try it with the current build and send me a gif video if it doesn't work.

another thing about the export - how can I change the naming method to be the full name of the song and not only the first letter of every word? in the earlier version of Realive it was like that and then you change it...
With a large Project Title, is becomes annoying so I opted for this alternative. I'll try to make it conditionnal to the Title length like protools. Stay tuned.

- How does the new Reasampler Mode work? could it work like the regular live mode with stems?
I'll try to update the manual soon. While in the Reasmapler mode,, opening a new tab will give a modified template adapted for the mode. The Audio Routing is updated as well.

- The compressor on the Cues Buss that you have added in the new update, is different from the compressors that were in the earlier versions on the Cue Busses?
Just a lower threshold so that The cues a more evened out. Nothing Fancy

by the way, it will be great if you could post a thread every time you upload a new version. the updates are great and very important!
Well I release silently very often and I'd rather not spam the folder with a lot of my threads. I try to keep and updated Release notes file in the folder. I'll try to keep the first post from this thread updated


Thanks again for this amazing product :)
You're welcome. :)

[Yorky]

Hi Alex,

Something I've been toying with for some time now but being a novice programmer haven't got off the blocks yet, is to integrate the action markers to send a message outside of the Reaper environment to a tab player on another device such as a tablet [Android in my case] using Bluetooth.

I use Ultimate Guitar and have done for a long time now but they have not published a API of any sorts and probably never intend to. They do though, have a "pedal interface" on the Android app which does allow for a page turner device to drive the UG interface. I've been using one of those BT Rings [R51] and can start/stop the autoscroll feature for example.
However, sending such an equivalent message [ReaScript?] from the ReAlive timeline via a marker action would be cool IMO.

Have you considered such an add on to ReAlive, or does it already exist that I'm unaware of?

Thanks for putting in the masses of effort into ReAlive. Cheers

[lexaproductions]

Hi Yorky,
I'm not too sure I understand the request. Maybe it can be done, but I don't fully grasp what you are asking sorry. You have a video or something?

[Yorky]

Hi Alex,

I'll try to put a better "demo" togther. Thanks

[itamar92]

Hi Alex,

Something I've been toying with for some time now but being a novice programmer haven't got off the blocks yet, is to integrate the action markers to send a message outside of the Reaper environment to a tab player on another device such as a tablet [Android in my case] using Bluetooth.

I use Ultimate Guitar and have done for a long time now but they have not published a API of any sorts and probably never intend to. They do though, have a "pedal interface" on the Android app which does allow for a page turner device to drive the UG interface. I've been using one of those BT Rings [R51] and can start/stop the autoscroll feature for example.
However, sending such an equivalent message [ReaScript?] from the ReAlive timeline via a marker action would be cool IMO.

Have you considered such an add on to ReAlive, or does it already exist that I'm unaware of?

Thanks for putting in the masses of effort into ReAlive. Cheers

Why not just send a regular midi messages to the device?

[Yorky]

Hi Itamar92,

To be perfectly honest, I've no idea how to.

Some more meat on the bones: When I bind a "pedal switch" to the UG pedal interface, the UI gives a value of "24" for example to start/stop auto-scroll. So a button or pedal switch interaction is identified as a numeric across a Bluetooth path to the remote tablet. What I would like to do is emulate that message out of the Reaper environment, across the Bluetooth path to the Android tablet to achieve the same end result. By making this a ReaScript action I would hope to embed that action into a marker on the Reaper timeline so as the play head passes the marker, the tab starts to auto-scroll on the remote device [for example]. Or equally assign the action [or other related actions] to some other control surface such as a foot controller [FCB1010?]

The detail of making that relatively simple transfer eludes me as I have no fecking idea how to code it up.

I have no experience of working with other guitar tab style programmes [SongBook for example] but have this notion that guitar tab players on remote devices in general would enjoy being driven from Reaper for auto "page turning" scenarios.

Whilst not specific to Alex's ReAlive initiative, it struck me as a potential add on that may be popular to live players such as myself whom often play a wide set of numbers and need those helpful props to get through. As I've gotten older, retaining words gets harder by the year!

Hope that helps a little to explain the potential use case?

Cheers

[mschnell]

send a message outside of the Reaper environment to a tab player on another device such as a tablet [Android in my case] using Bluetooth.
You first need to get any Bluetooth issues straight. (There might be lots of them regarding functionality and latency.)

Bluetooth stuff is completely outside of Reaper and needs top converted to standard Midi (device) messages by other means (hardware and/or software).

-Michael

[itamar92]

Hi Itamar92,

To be perfectly honest, I've no idea how to.

Some more meat on the bones: When I bind a "pedal switch" to the UG pedal interface, the UI gives a value of "24" for example to start/stop auto-scroll. So a button or pedal switch interaction is identified as a numeric across a Bluetooth path to the remote tablet. What I would like to do is emulate that message out of the Reaper environment, across the Bluetooth path to the Android tablet to achieve the same end result. By making this a ReaScript action I would hope to embed that action into a marker on the Reaper timeline so as the play head passes the marker, the tab starts to auto-scroll on the remote device [for example]. Or equally assign the action [or other related actions] to some other control surface such as a foot controller [FCB1010?]

The detail of making that relatively simple transfer eludes me as I have no fecking idea how to code it up.

I have no experience of working with other guitar tab style programmes [SongBook for example] but have this notion that guitar tab players on remote devices in general would enjoy being driven from Reaper for auto "page turning" scenarios.

Whilst not specific to Alex's ReAlive initiative, it struck me as a potential add on that may be popular to live players such as myself whom often play a wide set of numbers and need those helpful props to get through. As I've gotten older, retaining words gets harder by the year!

Hope that helps a little to explain the potential use case?

Cheers

First of all, you can adjust midi notes/cc to any action in reaper.
then, you can use an app called " midimittr " to transmit midi messages to Bluetooth.
if you are using mac I would suggest creating a new midi track that will be responsible for all the midi commands and you will route his send to the IAC driver (an internal routing of the computer) if on windows so you can use loop midi.

hope this will help.

[lexaproductions]

Only thing I’ll had is
If you plan on adding a midi controller track to the template, you may want to add it to the Audio Routing template so that it’s only once per setlist.

That being said, maybe something could be done with the CSI setup which would not need a dedicated track on every project.

[highway11]

I currently use Reaper live to play electric guitar using VST Amp Sims. I'm interested in seeing if ReaLive can make my life even better. Currently, I use a homemade Midi foot controller to switch between tracks, with each track having the VST fx setup for how I want my guitar to sound for that song.

Is there a way I can add my VST plugins to the Guitar track in ReaLive, and have each song use a different patch? I tried setting it up this way in ReaLive and if I arm each track, it's playing all the Guitar tracks at once from all songs. Is there a way I can set it up to only play the armed track from the active songs? Can it only arm the guitar track in the active song and disarm the rest?

I love how easy it is to import songs and set regions and cues, great work on that!

Thanks!

[lexaproductions]

If you disable “run stopped background projects”
And disable automatic enable disable the Audio routing tab (Options menu/Audio Routing)

You should be good to go.

[highway11]

If you disable “run stopped background projects”
And disable automatic enable disable the Audio routing tab (Options menu/Audio Routing)

You should be good to go.

Thanks for the quick reply! Can you let me know where I can find the "run stopped background projects" setting?

I'm also having trouble finding the "disable automatic enable/disable the Audio routing tab" in the Options menu. Is that the same as the "Auto/Manual" button on the AudioRouting project's toolbar buttons?

[highway11]

These are the current settings I have under Options/Realive Preferences and Options/Audio Routing Tab

[highway11]

I think I may have figured it out! If I right click the project tabs at the top I find the setting for run background projects. I'm not sure if I have to do that for each song in the playlist, but so far I think its working, thanks!

I have another question. Anytime I switch between views or songs my window resizes to what seems like a predetermined size. Is there a way to fix that? I tried resizing and saving, but so far, no luck. Running on Windows 10

[lexaproductions]

You must save the screen sets to your window size.
For each sets (1 to 7 I think):
You load it,
You maximize the screen,
You save it.

[lexaproductions]

I think I may have figured it out! If I right click the project tabs at the top I find the setting for run background projects.

You must set:
“Run background projects” to On
“Run stopped background projects” to off

[highway11]

You must save the screen sets to your window size.
For each sets (1 to 7 I think):
You load it,
You maximize the screen,
You save it.

I've tried to save after resizing each window and it still jumps back to a default size for me. Unless I'm not understanding what you mean by 1-7 for the different windows. Is there a place in the code or settings I could just disable any automatic screen resizes?

I've also noticed it seems to revert any changes I make in edit mode such as hiding the tracks I'm not using.

[highway11]

I'm very impressed with what ReaLive is capable of from playing with it so far, and I can see it as an indispensable tool for practicing/arranging and playing songs live.

I'm coming across some bugs though where it seems my install is working differently than it should be. I seem to be missing the large text information at the bottom of the live view that you show in your manual.

Did I do something wrong in the install procedure, by chance? I wasn't able to figure out how to drag and drop the file onto reaper, so what I did was renamed it to a zip file and simply copied all the extracted files into my portable install folder.

[itamar92]

I'm very impressed with what ReaLive is capable of from playing with it so far, and I can see it as an indispensable tool for practicing/arranging and playing songs live.

I'm coming across some bugs though where it seems my install is working differently than it should be. I seem to be missing the large text information at the bottom of the live view that you show in your manual.

Did I do something wrong in the install procedure, by chance? I wasn't able to figure out how to drag and drop the file onto reaper, so what I did was renamed it to a zip file and simply copied all the extracted files into my portable install folder.

this window pops up only when you navigate between regions.
you can also try pressing J to show it

[highway11]

this window pops up only when you navigate between regions.
you can also try pressing J to show it

I guess I was just misunderstanding how that bottom section worked. Thanks for for the info!

I'm absolutely blown away by how fast and easy ReaLive is for taking a song and using the markers to break up the sections and automatically create Cues. This is by far my favorite feature so far, and I'm using it to help me practice/learn songs in my setlist. Is there even any other software that can automate the process of creating audio cues like this? Excellent work!

There's a few minor tweaks I still need to figure out (screens are still resizing on every song change for me)

Sadly, I'm running into one major issue that's preventing me from actually using ReaLive "Live" though: I'm getting some random crackles and pops that I don't get when just using vanilla Reaper.

I'm not sure what the difference would be, as I've turned off all other VST effects besides my Guitar track, so it should be using close to the same amount of processing power as vanilla Reaper, and yet I still get random crackles and pops. This his happening on my mediocre laptop and powerful desktop (i7-10700k) Using a Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen audio interface.

Very strange. Anyone else experience this or have some advice to try to resolve it? I do have it set to not run background projects so it should only be running the Routing project and the current song I'm on, which has a few vst plugins for my guitar. But these same plugins don't cause crackling in vanilla Reaper.

[lexaproductions]

Thanks for the kind words.
It never happened to me but I use this only to run tracks with no vst.
If you run every background projects and you have several ones… I could see it quickly taxing your cpu

Did you try to disable “run stopped background projects” and play your guitar while playing back one song? Do you still get these crackles?

[highway11]

Thanks for the kind words.
It never happened to me but I use this only to run tracks with no vst.
If you run every background projects and you have several ones… I could see it quickly taxing your cpu

Did you try to disable “run stopped background projects” and play your guitar while playing back one song? Do you still get these crackles?

Yes, I have it set to not run stopped background projects. (when I disable this and it runs all projects, I get constant crackles and noise, so that is very obvious when it happens)

I play guitar while playing back one song and still get random cracks and pops that I don't get while doing the same thing in vanilla reaper (playing back 1 audio track while using the same VST effects chain). Maybe I'm trying to do too much with just one system. I can see ReaLive is perfect for playing backing tracks live, but mixing in live VST instruments might be too much for it? I'm not sure if its the loopback routing that's causing the additional strain or what.

Right now I'm just using it to rehearse a setlist, but I'm wondering if we ever decide to use it for live backing tracks/cues I would need a separate laptop that just runs ReaLive, and then continue to use my laptop for my guitar sounds. The reason I might need to do that is I'm trying to think what happens if I need to hit the "panic" button live and just loop the click track. Would it mute my live guitar at that point too? I'd need a way to work around that issue to use Realive for both tracks and live guitar processing.

[lexaproductions]

I would indeed suggest to run your guitar separate.
Maybe even a vanilla portable install on the same machine would work.

On all my computers, I always have a REALIVE portable install that's separate from my vanilla Reaper that I use for studio stuff.
I often use that main install to record our performance while running the tracks in REALIVE portable install. All of this out of the same audio interface for several hours without any glitch or problems. Using a 2012 Macbook pro.

Can't say much about a windows machine as I don't have one. But I don't see why one would not get the same type of performance.

[highway11]

I would indeed suggest to run your guitar separate.
Maybe even a vanilla portable install on the same machine would work.

On all my computers, I always have a REALIVE portable install that's separate from my vanilla Reaper that I use for studio stuff.
I often use that main install to record our performance while running the tracks in REALIVE portable install. All of this out of the same audio interface for several hours without any glitch or problems. Using a 2012 Macbook pro.

Can't say much about a windows machine as I don't have one. But I don't see why one would not get the same type of performance.

Can you run 2 instances of reaper at the same time through the same audio interface?! Wow I wasn't aware of that. If that's possible, I will indeed try that. And yes, I've setup ReaLive as a portable install so it did not mess with my existing Reaper installation.

As an aside, part of me would love a Macbook just for the known stability it has dealing with audio. On the other hand, that will never happen, as I'm a PC guy to the bone, its my bread and butter and how I make a living in IT, hahah. Music is just my hobby. If it were the other way 'round I think I'd be running Apple as well, because you always know what you're dealing with as far as the hardware/software designed tightly together. Way less different types of hardware/chipsets and less "unkown's" going that route. But I'm stuck in the PC world for good, and prefer it for every reason besides the aforementioned one.

[highway11]

So I'm making more progress with ReaLive.

For anyone else with the resizing screen issue, you need to go to the "Memory" menu, then screensets, and resize and save there. I did not realize this existed I was just trying to resize my window and then save the entire project.

I think my cracks/pops audio can be resolved by raising my audio interface buffer. unfortunately for me, it seems to require more CPU power than vanilla reaper.

I'm running into a bizarre issue now, where my Wifi Midi Controller is randomly disconnecting, but this only happens in ReaLive, not vanilla Reaper. When I look at the network monitoring in Windows, I see ReaLive is sending constant data on the network when playing a song, whereas vanilla Reaper does not. What is going on in the background with ReaLive, and can I turn this off somehow? I'm guessing its causing a strange conflict with my WiFi midi controller (which I've setup using RTP MIDI)

[lexaproductions]

Glad you’re making progress. I’m sorry I was not clear enough with the screen sets. I thought I was. Sorry

Realive does indeed take more ressources than vanilla Reaper. It comes from all the scripting and interfaces running. Especially the playlist window. It shouldn’t be too much from a decent computer to handle.

You can disable the control surfaces in the control surface menu. Hit the Ctrl Devices menu in the main toolbar. Next to the “Audio Device” button.
You can also go there from the preferences dialog. Also make sure that your controller is not enabled in the midi devices items.

I’ll do my best to answer any questions you may have to the best of my knowledge. Using Realive should always feel as smooth as a normal Reaper install. If not than you may have something that is not configured properly. I try my best to always keep it as updated as I can.

Make sure you always use the latest version of Realive, Reaper, Sws, JSApi.

[highway11]

Glad you’re making progress. I’m sorry I was not clear enough with the screen sets. I thought I was. Sorry

Realive does indeed take more ressources than vanilla Reaper. It comes from all the scripting and interfaces running. Especially the playlist window. It shouldn’t be too much from a decent computer to handle.

You can disable the control surfaces in the control surface menu. Hit the Ctrl Devices menu in the main toolbar. Next to the “Audio Device” button.
You can also go there from the preferences dialog. Also make sure that your controller is not enabled in the midi devices items.

I’ll do my best to answer any questions you may have to the best of my knowledge. Using Realive should always feel as smooth as a normal Reaper install. If not than you may have something that is not configured properly. I try my best to always keep it as updated as I can.

Make sure you always use the latest version of Realive, Reaper, Sws, JSApi.

Thanks for the tips. I tried disabling all the control surfaces hoping that would help, but I'm still getting random disconnects from my wireless midi controller when a song is playing. I do need it enabled as a MIDI device in ReaLive as I'm using it to start/stop/switch songs as well as control my guitar patches. I find it strange that running Realive causes it to lose its wireless midi session (RTPMidi). I don't know what's different about ReaLive as opposed to normal reaper in this regard.

[lexaproductions]

I use all my control surfaces using CSI without enabling them in reaper’s midi devices.
I never used wireless devices thought so I have no experience with them.
Can you tell me the exact device model? Maybe I can make a csi config for it?

[highway11]

Its actually a Midi controller I made and programmed myself, using an ESP32 (Arduino-like device) which connects to my laptop via wifi using RTPMidi. Its been pretty rock solid until I tried using it with ReaLive, so I have no idea what could be causing it to disconnect. I understand its a strange phenomenon that doesn't seem like ReaLive could have anything to do with, except for the fact that it only happens when I'm playing my setlist with ReaLive, and not normal Reaper.

https://i.imgur.com/grznV0v.jpg

[highway11]

I have another much less confusing question: Would it be possible to add cue voice samples for 6/8 time signature songs? Right now I'm using ReaLive to quickly build cues for songs, and did my first 6/8 song today. It gets the click right, but the MIDI voice triggers only go 1,2,3,4. I think there isn't a 5 or 6 sample to trigger? Would that be easy to add?

[lexaproductions]

Best way to work in 6/8 is to work in 2/4 with a triplet feel.
When building the conductor track with a tempo under 70bpm, you’ll be prompted if you want a triplet feel.

[lexaproductions]

Its actually a Midi controller I made and programmed myself, using an ESP32 (Arduino-like device) which connects to my laptop via wifi using RTPMidi. Its been pretty rock solid until I tried using it with ReaLive, so I have no idea what could be causing it to disconnect. I understand its a strange phenomenon that doesn't seem like ReaLive could have anything to do with, except for the fact that it only happens when I'm playing my setlist with ReaLive, and not normal Reaper.

https://i.imgur.com/grznV0v.jpg

Funny my controller really looks like this.
It is built on a USB teensy. I’d need to investigate with the wireless stuff. I have no clue why it disconnects.
Can you try this:
Run Vanilla AND Realive simultaneously
In Realive, disable all the midi devices but leave them connected to Vanilla.
See if you can still reliably control Vanilla while Realive is playing back?
Then try the same thing but leaving the device connected to Realive at the same time as Vanilla. Can it still reliably control Vanilla?
A video would be welcome so Incan see the problem also.

[highway11]

Best way to work in 6/8 is to work in 2/4 with a triplet feel.
When building the conductor track with a tempo under 70bpm, you’ll be prompted if you want a triplet feel.


Thanks, I'll try this!

Funny my controller really looks like this.
It is built on a USB teensy. I’d need to investigate with the wireless stuff. I have no clue why it disconnects.
Can you try this:
Run Vanilla AND Realive simultaneously
In Realive, disable all the midi devices but leave them connected to Vanilla.
See if you can still reliably control Vanilla while Realive is playing back?
Then try the same thing but leaving the device connected to Realive at the same time as Vanilla. Can it still reliably control Vanilla?
A video would be welcome so Incan see the problem also.

Ah nice. Does yours use screens as well? I also have a web server on my controller that I can update my patches and what the screens say through a browser. I hook it up to the mobile hotspot on my Windows 10 laptop. Its kind of neat that I can just throw it anywhere on stage and don't have to be tied to my laptop. I get around 50hrs of on time with a 10,000mah USB power bank inside. But at the same time I'm seriously considering switching it from Wifi based RTPMidi/AppleMidi to a USB-Serial-Midi connection just so there's one less thing that can go wrong. Although its never given me issue until now. I will try your tests though, I haven't tried running both while disabling all midi in ReaLive.

It only disconnects randomly. It stays connected to Wifi but disconnects from the RTPMidi session for 10-20 seconds every few minutes. Which is very strange. It reconnects automatically, but its enough to make my controller totally useless, especially if I need my volume pedal for swells, hahah!

[lexaproductions]

Might be worth getting a midi monitor app and verify the midi data that’s going in&out of the pedal before/during/after connection lost

If I have a better idea of this data, I may be able to get a fix for you.

[highway11]

Might be worth getting a midi monitor app and verify the midi data that’s going in&out of the pedal before/during/after connection lost

If I have a better idea of this data, I may be able to get a fix for you.

That's a great idea I'll see if I can get that data.
On an unrelated note, how do you use the "Find Tempo" feature on the Tempo screen? It just tells me "You need a time selection for this to work" but I'm selecting a time

I just realized one of my 6/8 songs is 160bpm and divided by 3 is 53.33333333 lol

https://i.imgur.com/pBcOMyo.png

[lexaproductions]

There is a difference between loop selection and time selection. Right now you only have a loop selection.
But you just made me realize that it would be a good idea to support loop points in that feature!
On the todo list…. Should be easy to implement.

[highway11]

There is a difference between loop selection and time selection. Right now you only have a loop selection.
But you just made me realize that it would be a good idea to support loop points in that feature!
On the todo list…. Should be easy to implement.

Thanks for the info. Also I tried the 2/4 triplet for my 6/8 song and it works perfectly, thanks!

Pardon my ignorance, but how do I make a time selection? I assumed click+dragging on the timeline was time selection, but I guess its not?

One thing I would love to pick your brain on, if you had the time to share: The best/quickest way you handle some of the following rearranging scenarios:
1. During sound check, right before a performance your band decides to cut a chorus from the song
2. During sound check your band decides to play a chorus twice instead of once
3. During a performance you decide to play a chorus twice instead of once?!

What is the workflow you use (keyboard shortcuts/menu items/midi triggers) you use to quickly accomplish this?

The reason I ask is I only discovered today I can drag a region past the end of the song and it automatically shifts the other regions left to fill in the gaps. Awesome! I just wonder what else I'm missing, especially how to quickly duplicate a region.

This is my own answer for question #1 right now:

https://i.imgur.com/UEGQ22m.gif

[lexaproductions]

All your requests are EXACTLY what Realive was made for.
Look in the main toolbar for the « AddActions » button. These will add different action markers for most rearranging needs
Using action markers allows you to change the arrangements without doing any edits to the actual song. Right clicking on the timeline will also give you access to those actions.
Now for your specific requests:
1: place your cursor anywhere in the song and hit CMD-J to take out measures or CMD-OPT-J to add measures
2: Hit the « add Loop » button on the toolbar and enter the number of time you want to preset the loop. If you leave it blank, the region will be loop indefinitely. Until you hit the « L » to get out of looping
3: once you get in the chorus you can use « L » to engage region looping.

You can drag regions to change the order or CMD-Drag regions to copy them. This is standard Reaper stuff.

[highway11]

All your requests are EXACTLY what Realive was made for.
Look in the main toolbar for the « AddActions » button. These will add different action markers for most rearranging needs
Using action markers allows you to change the arrangements without doing any edits to the actual song. Right clicking on the timeline will also give you access to those actions.
Now for your specific requests:
1: place your cursor anywhere in the song and hit CMD-J to take out measures or CMD-OPT-J to add measures
2: Hit the « add Loop » button on the toolbar and enter the number of time you want to preset the loop. If you leave it blank, the region will be loop indefinitely. Until you hit the « L » to get out of looping
3: once you get in the chorus you can use « L » to engage region looping.

You can drag regions to change the order or CMD-Drag regions to copy them. This is standard Reaper stuff.

Awesome, thanks so much! This gives me a great starting point in learning rearranging quickly. I had my own way of doing things but I wanted to see if there was a better way. I admit some of it is probably vanilla Reaper stuff I wasn't aware of. I'm playing with the action markers and looping now, very cool!

Can you tell me how to make a time selection vs a loop selection for finding tempo?

[lexaproductions]

Have you tried SHIFT drag or CTL-SHFT drag?
Or hitting « i » before dragging.
Or right click on the loop selection and select the option to change loop to time selections there?
Sorry I don’t have my computer in front of me so I can’t try anything right now.

[highway11]

Have you tried SHIFT drag or CTL-SHFT drag?
Or hitting « i » before dragging.
Or right click on the loop selection and select the option to change loop to time selections there?
Sorry I don’t have my computer in front of me so I can’t try anything right now.

I ended up figuring it out! I had to enable Options-> Default Menu Options -> Loop Points Linked To Time Selection

Now I'm not sure how this Find Tempo is meant to be used. Do you select 1 measure of your music? I tried to do that and it gave me a tempo I know is wrong so I may be doing something wrong. I'm assuming I need to select a time range that is a certain number of bars/beats

[lexaproductions]

It’s better to not link time selection and loop because you could be looping something and then time select something else. All the other methods to time select are better. You’ll find the actual shortcut using the mouse modifier dialog in the preferences.

The find tempo function should give you the tempo of « 4beats » that fits the time selection.
I can’t remember if I implemented other time signatures. And I don’t have access to a computer for a few days.
You can also use the tap tempo window if you want to find a tempo. Make sure you disable the warp mode when setting the song’s tempo. Else you items will be stretched when changing tempo.

[lexaproductions]

Head's up, there is a new release with several bug fixes, and a few new features. The release notes and the manual have been updated.

[highway11]

Awesome will play around with the new version when I have time.

If I wanted to edit the action: Realive_Control_SoloClick_beat.lua can you let me know which file I can edit?

I have some basic experience creating custom actions, I'd like to try to edit this one so it doesn't mute the guitar tracks, or better yet, have it not mute any track that is record enabled.

[lexaproductions]

The solo click action, does that, it soloes the click.

If you simply make the track you want "Solo Defeat" then they won't be muted.

[itamar92]

Head's up, there is a new release with several bug fixes, and a few new features. The release notes and the manual have been updated.

Exciting !!

The new Manual is Amazing!

I wonder, why you choose not to put the SEQ Drums And The SEQ Bass under the group of the VCA also like the rest of the tracks?

Also, a small request if it's possible for the next update -
I find myself every update going to the Realive API and changing the "Show all tracks in TCP" command. maybe you could make it an option in the options menu?

Thank You!

[lexaproductions]

1: Good catch! Those busses have been added after the VCA thingy was added.
Fixing.
2: if you mean, you don’t want to show all tracks in the edit view, it could be made optional indeed. But it be enabled by default.

[lexaproductions]

There you go: v2.93 have both options...

[lexaproductions]

Quick addon in 2.94:
Stats are now available in the playlist window's right click menu.
You can now easily know for how long you've been playing and how long you still have until the end of the set.

[itamar92]

Quick addon in 2.94:
Stats are now available in the playlist window's right click menu.
You can now easily know for how long you've been playing and how long you still have until the end of the set.

Wow !
Amazing :)

[itamar92]

2: if you mean, you don’t want to show all tracks in the edit view, it could be made optional indeed. But it be enabled by default.[/QUOTE]

What I meant is that when I choose to hide certain tracks I want them to stay hidden and not show back again after I exit the Live view.

In the new update when I choose in the option not to "show all tracks in edit view " the screen set is still set to screen set no.1 (like the live view)

All the tracks are spread wide in their height.

[lexaproductions]

Try it now. Let me know

[itamar92]

Try it now. Let me know

Now it's perfect :)

[zachymac]

This is exactly what I was looking for! I play drums in a cover band, and was looking for a way to create a set list with click tracks and vocal cues. I already use EZDrummer3 on my MacBook, so I just needed to learn how to use this.

I have played around with Realive quite a bit for the past few days, and for newbies, I offer the following tips.

1st - The manual you created is very, very helpful. I was able to learn a lot. However, the very first thing I struggled with was how to install the RealiveReaperConfigZip. I did not see a mention of how to install it - perhaps it's common knowledge for regular users of Reaper? Either way, for folks looking at how to install this, I did the following
- Open Reaper
- Go to Options | Preferences
- Click on General on the left hand side
- Click on the button that says Import Configuration
Then, you will want to select the RealiveReaperConfigZip file.

Once I figured that out - I was on my way!

2nd - When you create a new project and name it, I will immediately right click on it | Save Project As. I then made a folder on my laptop called "Songs". There is a checkbox for "Create Subdirectory For Project" that I checked. For me, I having my songs organized into folders makes it easier for me to be organized.

This thing is awesome though - seriously impressive. Kudos to you and all the work, because this is amazing.

[lexaproductions]

Thanks for the kind words.
To install:
you simply drag the file on the arrange view like you would with a wave file.

[spike2702]

Hey , Loving REALive and has made my live use so much easier :-P

Just tried updating to the new version and get the below error on loading , I thought it may be due to changes i have made to some areas , however just tried on a fresh portable install as well and same issue??? (FYI Windows 11 user)


ReaScript Error
___Realive_MainAPI.lua:1688: attempt to index a nil value (local 'currFile')

[lexaproductions]

You have all the latest sws/jsapi/app installed?

EDIT:
Let me know what are the changes you've made. Looking at the code, REALIVE is trying to write a config file that's missing or maybe that's locked?.

I'm on mac, and everything is working. I don't have any way of troubleshooting on windows

[squibs]

Hmm - I didn't quite understand the implications of installing this. It's really cool, but I'm wondering how I can revert to my old reaper config?

[spike2702]

All working on the new version now :-) .... Did a fresh portable install and installed sws/jsapi fresh before dragging over the Realive-20220711_4.ReaperConfigZip

Thanks again for REALive .... Donation will be coming your way shortly :-P

You have all the latest sws/jsapi/app installed?

EDIT:
Let me know what are the changes you've made. Looking at the code, REALIVE is trying to write a config file that's missing or maybe that's locked?.

I'm on mac, and everything is working. I don't have any way of troubleshooting on windows

[lexaproductions]

Thanks a lot.
I want to spread the love and make people realize that this is a great option for stems playback.
I sure hope to get the time make a pro video serie one day.

[lexaproductions]

Hmm - I didn't quite understand the implications of installing this. It's really cool, but I'm wondering how I can revert to my old reaper config?

Ish this is a hard one…
In Reaper resources folder, you will find a “previous config “ folder. You may manually copy this items back to the main folder and see to which extent your old config will be resumed…

This is why I always suggest a portable install.

[squibs]

Ish this is a hard one…
In Reaper resources folder, you will find a “previous config “ folder. You may manually copy this items back to the main folder and see to which extent your old config will be resumed…

This is why I always suggest a portable install.

Thanks - my fault entirely so I deserved the reinstall. I have 2 setups now - Realive and regular. It took a while to get everything back the way I like it.

[highway11]

By the way I've reconfigured my MIDI controller to be USB-Serial and ditched the Wifi RDPMidi connection, and I've been using ReaLive "live" now for the last 3 gigs. Its been working great! I actually only use it to switch guitar sounds live so far, but I'm preparing to use it for click/cue and possibly some backing tracks soon. Thanks again for you work on this awesome project!

One thing I'd love it figure out:
Is there a way to override the "all tracks minimized view" I'd like to customize that view to have some tracks vertically larger, and others hidden entirely. I've poked around a bit and haven't figured out how to accomplish this. When I hit "TAB" to switch between live playback and edit view I'd like it to keep my layout instead of reverting to "all tracks minimized" if possible.

[rcoleman180]

Fantastic work and dedication!!!

Can a portable instance be installed on the same computer as the regular Reaper DAW?

I would like to have both reside on the same computer. They would not be used at the same time. :)

Regards,

Ron


Again, FANTASTIC WORK AND DEDICATION!!!!!

[lexaproductions]

Not only do they work on the same computer, I’ve used both Realive and Reaper to playback sequences and record 32lines of audio of the same audio card for hours…
On a 2012 Mac book pro.
Justin Frankel rules…

[juan_r]

Can a portable instance be installed on the same computer as the regular Reaper DAW?


Yes you can have both.

[lexaproductions]

One thing I'd love it figure out:
Is there a way to override the "all tracks minimized view" I'd like to customize that view to have some tracks vertically larger, and others hidden entirely. I've poked around a bit and haven't figured out how to accomplish this. When I hit "TAB" to switch between live playback and edit view I'd like it to keep my layout instead of reverting to "all tracks minimized" if possible.

I’m not in front of the computer right now but haven’t I built a preference exactly for that the other day? Look in the options menu

[rcoleman180]

Thank you for the quick response.

I will post examples of our use of REALIVE soon.

Ron

[highway11]

I’m not in front of the computer right now but haven’t I built a preference exactly for that the other day? Look in the options menu

I found the show all tracks option and it allows me to hide tracks now thanks!

I still can't figure out how to keep the vertical zoom level for tracks. When I switch between live and edit mode using Tab key I lose the zoom level because it choose the "All tracks minimized" screenset. Can I modify this screen somehow so it keeps my preferred zoom level instead of all tracks minimized? Also with the latest version the entire screen is covered by the master track in edit mode. Is that by design?

I would like my edit view to look like this:
https://i.imgur.com/beQH5f4.png

But it keeps reverting to this when switching between live/edit mode:
https://i.imgur.com/eHGetRF.png

[lexaproductions]

I’m out of the office for a few days without access to a computer. I will look it up asap

[lexaproductions]

Hey highway11,
The same option now should avoid resizing the tracks for nothing...

[highway11]

Hey highway11,
The same option now should avoid resizing the tracks for nothing...

Thanks lexaproductuons! It seems to save the vertical zoom level now. Its a bit glitchy depending if I use the down arrow or just click on the next song whether it saves the zoom. I find if I leave force edit mode on it seems to work better. One potential new bug is the live view no longer works the way it should with zooming the structure track to full screen, but that's not a problem for me as I really don't use live view at the moment.

I wonder is there a way to save horizontal song zoom as well? I prefer to see the entire song in edit mode, but it keeps zooming in horizontally as if it's reverting to live mode.

[lexaproductions]

Hey, there's a build now which should be a bit better.
Also, the line check functionalities has been improved a bit. Look it up in the release notes...

[highway11]

I'm still experiencing the following issues on PC with realive v 3.007 and reaper 6.61

1. Triggering "Realive_LexaController_Stop" action causes me to lose my horizontal zoom level. It reverts back to being very zoomed in as if it were in Play View, but I have it in forced edit mode. This is on the 3rd press where it goes back to the beginning of the song.

2. Triggering "Realive_Control_ProjectTabs_FWD" causes me to lose my horizontal zoom as well. It reverts to being very zoomed in

3. On Realive startup the Project Tab list is missing. I have to enable in in the menu twice before it shows up for some reason.

Is there a way for me to permanently disable Realive from changing my zoom levels? Or at least not changing horizontal zoom at all in the above scenarios? I've noticed even going to the beginning of the song using my left arrow key causes me to lose my zoom levels.

[lexaproductions]

I'm still experiencing the following issues on PC with realive v 3.007 and reaper 6.61

1. Triggering "Realive_LexaController_Stop" action causes me to lose my horizontal zoom level. It reverts back to being very zoomed in as if it were in Play View, but I have it in forced edit mode. This is on the 3rd press where it goes back to the beginning of the song.

2. Triggering "Realive_Control_ProjectTabs_FWD" causes me to lose my horizontal zoom as well. It reverts to being very zoomed in

3. On Realive startup the Project Tab list is missing. I have to enable in in the menu twice before it shows up for some reason.

Is there a way for me to permanently disable Realive from changing my zoom levels? Or at least not changing horizontal zoom at all in the above scenarios? I've noticed even going to the beginning of the song using my left arrow key causes me to lose my zoom levels.

See my private message.

[TexaCali]

This looks awesome. Is it possible to execute commands like "region looping" by pressing a midi footswitch?

Since I play guitar my hands are not free during performance and I need ways to extend a song on the fly if need. Also, would be great to have the ability to jump back to a section and not just loop a chorus. Again, solely via midi footswitches.

Thanks!

[lexaproductions]

This looks awesome. Is it possible to execute commands like "region looping" by pressing a midi footswitch?

Since I play guitar my hands are not free during performance and I need ways to extend a song on the fly if need. Also, would be great to have the ability to jump back to a section and not just loop a chorus. Again, solely via midi footswitches.

Thanks!

I play bass, and do all of this using midi commands. Lookup the action list for "lexacontroller"
Then assign your midi controller to those.

My manual should answer a few of the most obvious questions.

[TexaCali]

I play bass, and do all of this using midi commands. Lookup the action list for "lexacontroller"
Then assign your midi controller to those.

My manual should answer a few of the most obvious questions.

Thanks!

[zachymac]

Hi there!
So as I am building out a track, I will add all of the markers. I may then add a cue for various things (bass drop out, drums in, solo, etc). But what I realize is that I will add the cues and markers at the same time.

Then when I press the Conductor Track Build in order to get the cues for the different markers (verse, chorus, pre-chorus, etc.) - I am finding that the cue's I had added in are being deleted once I do the Conductor Track Build.

Curious if that is by design, or if I need to rethink my process for creating a track?

[lexaproductions]

Hi
Thanks for your interest in REALIVE

By design, you add all your markers, you build the conductor tracks and then you add the special cues.

Build conductor track reset the whole thing. It is by design.

[Jesta]

Hi, well so far this is working excellently for me. Thank you so much! I have one request - I'm not even sure whether it's possible or not.

The layout for the remote web interface is very useful, but it would be even better if it showed the title of the current song somewhere.

Unless I have the computer screen where I can see it I'm blindly using the navigation buttons to switch songs and it's kinda scary waiting to see if it's the song I'm expecting or not! Is that something that can be done?

Cheers!

NOTE: I found this, which looks like it would be perfect EXCEPT that it works by having all songs in one project within folders. I prefer ReaLive's method of multiple project tabs - https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=181159

[lexaproductions]

Hello Jesta,
Thanks for your interest in this. I understand the request as I've been confronted to it many times. I've never put much effort in coding this as I'm very poor in WEB stuff. I've built this using Jon Tidey's stuff (https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=200154)


Let me know if there's anything I can help you with.

[Jesta]

Thanks lexaproductions, I really appreciate the work you've put into this.

In case anyone else is interested, I didn't work out how to display the song title on the web remote control app BUT I did manage to figure out a workaround of sorts, although it requires a second device.

Firstly, set up the Web Remote for ReaLive exactly as it is usually. Then (and here's something I didn't know…) you can add an ADDITIONAL web remote controller by specifying a different port number. On this new setup, choose the lyrics layout.

Then I added a track to every song, ran the lyrics.lua script and put the title of the song in the first line (maybe later I might put the actual lyrics in, or the titles of each song section).

This way I can have eg. my phone as the main controller for ReaLive and a second device eg. tablet displaying the song title that is about to begin. It's also handy because I can give other band members the specific lyric remote url and they can see what's coming next on their own devices too! No more shouting song titles across the stage!

I won't go into how to use the lyrics script here as it's covered elsewhere - here's where I found an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZZvk4x93o&t=462s

[lexaproductions]

Clever!!!
Well done. :)
Im working on it.

[itamar92]

Thanks lexaproductions, I really appreciate the work you've put into this.

In case anyone else is interested, I didn't work out how to display the song title on the web remote control app BUT I did manage to figure out a workaround of sorts, although it requires a second device.

Firstly, set up the Web Remote for ReaLive exactly as it is usually. Then (and here's something I didn't know…) you can add an ADDITIONAL web remote controller by specifying a different port number. On this new setup, choose the lyrics layout.

Then I added a track to every song, ran the lyrics.lua script and put the title of the song in the first line (maybe later I might put the actual lyrics in, or the titles of each song section).

This way I can have eg. my phone as the main controller for ReaLive and a second device eg. tablet displaying the song title that is about to begin. It's also handy because I can give other band members the specific lyric remote url and they can see what's coming next on their own devices too! No more shouting song titles across the stage!

I won't go into how to use the lyrics script here as it's covered elsewhere - here's where I found an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMZZvk4x93o&t=462s

that's a nice workaround! but why not just use the region reader in the Realive Web app and in every first region instead of writing "Count" just write the name of your song. that way when you scroll between songs you will know which song you're at. :)

[Jesta]

itamar92. good idea! I think I'll use both methods together - rename "Count" for myself, and lyrics track for others onstage.

[lexaproductions]

I think the best idea is to mod that web remote setup to read the project title. Great idea! That, I think I can make happen.

[itamar92]

Hey,
is there a way to filter the config that I import?
for example, every time I import your Realive Config I need to redefine the media Explorer DB and Folders path

[lexaproductions]

I know…. This is VERY annoying. But I don’t know how.
Would need to parse the reaper.ini file… or something.

I’ll if there’s anything I can do.

[lexaproductions]

Try this (https://www.dropbox.com/s/r1twun7y6gqi8fc/REALIVE%20V3.036%20Manual.pdf?dl=0):