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fixerdave
09-09-2011, 12:19 PM
hello, I've just got a korg nanokontrol2. at first it was seen by reaper, but not working with learning actions. now I've installed the korg usb/midi driver, reaper can't see the controler at all.... anyone got any info on how to make it work?? dave
Is it turned on in the preferences? You have to activate midi controllers.
ivansc
09-09-2011, 02:14 PM
Also, there are a couple of templates/keymaps in the rfeaper stash that you will find very useful. Oaknano is the only one I can remember the name B of at present...between those and the Korg editor plus the Korg MIDI driver, my 2 Kontrols and Nanopad are playing really nicely together.
Apart from when I forget to bring the faders up and wonder why I have no audio,like earlier today! No fool like an old fool.
You would do well to search for Klinke`s stuff on control surfaces and the threads on the original Nano series.
All excellent stuff and the info will save you a lot of hassle.
susbemol
09-09-2011, 02:38 PM
Bear in mind the new nanoKONTROL2 is a very different animal from the previous series. What mode are you starting the unit up in? Can you see its MIDI ports in REAPER's preferences?
fixerdave
09-10-2011, 07:18 AM
thanks for the suggestions, I uninstalled the korg drivers and then when reaper see's it I had to configure it in prefs, seems to work now.. dave
ivansc
09-10-2011, 12:39 PM
I had already mentioned issues with the new Korg editor when using it with the OLD nano series, but had assumed that all was now OK for the mark 2.
If problems re-occur, you could try doing what I and others have done - uninstall the old midi driver and replace it with the new one, then re-install the old editor and see what effect it has on reliability.
Since I did this on my system I have zero issues, which of course I never had with the earlier version of the editor OR the MIDI drivers before the change.
I am keeping an eye on the Korg site to see if they actually do anything to sort the kinks out of the new version of the editor....
susbemol
09-10-2011, 12:48 PM
You cannot use the KORG KONTROL Editor version1 with the nanoSeries2. The latest version should also work with the nanoSeries1 without any problems.
As mentioned, it may be worth uninstalling any previous drivers and making sure you've got the latest versions of both the drivers (http://www.korg.co.uk/downloads/driver/dl_driver.asp) and the KONTROL Editor (http://www.korg.co.uk/support/downloads/nano2_dl.php).
G-Sun
09-10-2011, 12:51 PM
I have a nanoKontrol2, works perfect, with Korg-driver.
You have to enable it in your midi-preferences, midi and/or controller.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=007360504703980381142%3Afrler9tp634&ie=UTF-8&q=nanoKontrol2&sa=Search&siteurl=geir-music.blogspot.com%2F
fixerdave
09-11-2011, 04:29 AM
uninstalled the korg driver, controller works fine now in reaper. I've also used the editor to change the keys to toggle and it's all set up perfectly... thanks for info.. dave
ivansc
09-11-2011, 05:40 AM
You cannot use the KORG KONTROL Editor version1 with the nanoSeries2. The latest version should also work with the nanoSeries1 without any problems.
As mentioned, it may be worth uninstalling any previous drivers and making sure you've got the latest versions of both the drivers (http://www.korg.co.uk/downloads/driver/dl_driver.asp) and the KONTROL Editor (http://www.korg.co.uk/support/downloads/nano2_dl.php).
I and several others discovered that the newer version of the editor did not even recognise the Mk1 NanoKontrols, let alone actually work.
However I will go back and re-try it just in case they sneaked a fix in since I first got it.
susbemol
09-12-2011, 08:35 AM
That's interesting. I (and others I know) seem to have no problem at all with either nano1 or nano2 units.
Just to check - are you guys taking advantage of the new "mackie control emulation" mode on the nanoKONTROL2? It really is great... download and install Kinkle's Mackie Control plugin (if you haven't already got it, http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=758242#post758242) then power the nanoKONTROL2 while holding down "set marker" and "rewind" to set it to mackie control emulation.
Once you have set it up as Kinkle describes, you have got a unit automatically mapped to its relevant controls with infinite number of tracks (it banks just like a MCU). No more tedious editing necessary. :)
ivansc
09-13-2011, 12:12 AM
susbemol - either of the templates on here will do the same thing.
I use both the oak one and the plain vanilla one.
NK1 is set up to control faders 1-9 and transport, NK2 is set up to control the next 9.
Only oddity is that fader 10 is skipped in reaper, but I haven't bothered investigating why.
Oh and BOTH sets of transport controls work just fine.
And of course because BOTH of these templates support bank switching, I can in theory address four NKs before I have to look for other options.
And the net result of this is I am about to sell my now-redundant BCF2000.
J.HEXX
09-13-2011, 11:04 AM
That's interesting. I (and others I know) seem to have no problem at all with either nano1 or nano2 units.
Just to check - are you guys taking advantage of the new "mackie control emulation" mode on the nanoKONTROL2? It really is great... download and install Kinkle's Mackie Control plugin (if you haven't already got it, http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=758242#post758242) then power the nanoKONTROL2 while holding down "set marker" and "rewind" to set it to mackie control emulation.
Once you have set it up as Kinkle describes, you have got a unit automatically mapped to its relevant controls with infinite number of tracks (it banks just like a MCU). No more tedious editing necessary. :)
interesting, all i did was set the midi preferences, apply Mackie Control Universal setting in Controller prefs, and use the action control option to apply the channels to the midi channels for each set of 8 faders for up to 24 faders so far. cool stuff. I really like the NanoKontrol 2. I am still wondering if i should hold off on getting two Bcf 2000 units now,mainly due to i like automated faders, but they are not necessary when owning a NanoKontrol 2. I do know that the Nano can handle if programmed up to 96 faders and switches with ease, using up to 12 of the 16 midi channels availiable in Reaper. the best 60 dollars i spent ever in the last 4 months.
LPBassman
10-23-2011, 06:01 AM
I am thinking about buying a NanoKontrol2. I have read most of the posts on this forum and have looked at the sparse user guide and have a few questions I hope you experienced NK2 users can help clarify.
1). If you start the NK2 up in one of the pre-programmed Mackie Control Universal DAW modes; for example the Cubase or Sonar templates, do you still need to install Korg Kontrol Editor. Or is that only needed if you operate in CC mode.
2). Since my main interest is in using the NK2 for simple functions such as fader, pan, S, M, R for each track and transport control; is there one of the pre-programmed DAW modes that fits this bill best for Reaper.
3). With the pre-programmed DAW modes do you still need to use Reaper's Actions/Action List function to assign any of the controls on the NK2.
4). Can you customize the pre-programmed DAW modes by using Reapers Actions/Action List capability and save it to a specific keymap. After doing this do you still need to start the NK2 in DAW mode or do you start it in CC mode and load the keymap.
Sorry for all the questions but it seems like there are multiple ways to get the controller to be programmed and/or interfaced with Reaper and yet there doesn't seem to be a concise explanation of the best way to do it or the limitations of doing it one way versus another.
Thanks for your help.
BTW running Reaper 4.10 in 32 bit mode on Win 7 64 bit machine.
G-Sun
10-23-2011, 10:25 AM
I am thinking about buying a NanoKontrol2. I have read most of the posts on this forum and have looked at the sparse user guide and have a few questions I hope you experienced NK2 users can help clarify.
1). If you start the NK2 up in one of the pre-programmed Mackie Control Universal DAW modes; for example the Cubase or Sonar templates, do you still need to install Korg Kontrol Editor. Or is that only needed if you operate in CC mode.
No, I don't think you need to install the Korg Editor for that. (But I don't know why you wouldn't want to install it)
2). Since my main interest is in using the NK2 for simple functions such as fader, pan, S, M, R for each track and transport control; is there one of the pre-programmed DAW modes that fits this bill best for Reaper.
I think the Mackie Control Universal DAW modes works for transport and 8 first channels, with leds.
3). With the pre-programmed DAW modes do you still need to use Reaper's Actions/Action List function to assign any of the controls on the NK2.
No, don't think so
4). Can you customize the pre-programmed DAW modes by using Reapers Actions/Action List capability and save it to a specific keymap. After doing this do you still need to start the NK2 in DAW mode or do you start it in CC mode and load the keymap.
No, I don't think you can customize those without some deeper surface programming skills.
:)
LPBassman
10-23-2011, 02:51 PM
@G-Sun,
Thanks for the quick response. You have helped clear up some of the mystery for me. What advantage do you see using the Korg Editor over just using Reaper's Actions/Action List assignment. It seems to me that they do the same thing. I read somewhere else (I think on the Korg forum) that you can start the NK2 in one of the DAW modes and then change functionality of some of the buttons using Reaper's Actions/Action List assignment. But don't know for sure. Will do some experimenting when I receive mine and post back.
That's interesting. I (and others I know) seem to have no problem at all with either nano1 or nano2 units.
Just to check - are you guys taking advantage of the new "mackie control emulation" mode on the nanoKONTROL2? It really is great... download and install Kinkle's Mackie Control plugin (if you haven't already got it, http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=758242#post758242) then power the nanoKONTROL2 while holding down "set marker" and "rewind" to set it to mackie control emulation.
Once you have set it up as Kinkle describes, you have got a unit automatically mapped to its relevant controls with infinite number of tracks (it banks just like a MCU). No more tedious editing necessary. :)
I posted this over on Mackie Control Klinke thread, but haven't gotten any responses there:
Almost everything seems to work great, except the Marker Set and Marker Left & Right arrows. The Marker Set button seems to be mapped to the Metronome. And the Marker Left and Right buttons don't seem to do anything. Any ideas?
Thanks!
- sfb
G-Sun
10-24-2011, 12:04 AM
What advantage do you see using the Korg Editor over just using Reaper's Actions/Action List assignment. It seems to me that they do the same thing. I read somewhere else (I think on the Korg forum) that you can start the NK2 in one of the DAW modes and then change functionality of some of the buttons using Reaper's Actions/Action List assignment. But don't know for sure. Will do some experimenting when I receive mine and post back.
Happy to help :)
Korg Editor will program the what messages n2 sends. Reaper's Actions/Action List assignment is for what to do when receiving those messages.
So, you can have as many pathes in n2 as you want, for different usage, loaded with the Editor.
Or, as me, make one default path, and leave it as that. So, I don't open the Korg Editor often after first programming.
LPBassman
10-29-2011, 07:28 PM
Received my NanoKontrol2 today. Installation was smooth as can be. I have not yet installed the Korg Editor. Instead I installed the driver and then started the NK2 in Mackie Universal mode using the "Sonar" instructions (Set Marker + Rec while powering on the unit).
It is so nice to be able to control faders, panning, arm tracks, etc without touching the mouse. Best control surface for the money.
bharris
11-06-2011, 08:55 AM
Finally got my Nanokontrol 2, installed the Klinke Mackie Control Plugin, and powered it up while holding Marker Set and Rewind. I did not install a special midi driver from Korg (I am running Windows 7, and it said in the instructions to simply plug the unit in to the computer and it would be recognized (which it was). I am also not running the Kontrol Editor. I am able to control tracks with faders, mute, solo and record tracks, and pan with the pots. However, I can't seem to "teach" the unit any parameters for VST plugins, and the Track left and right buttons don't seem to work. In addition, I can't seem to teach it to control the master track. Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks!
Edit - forgot to mention that I am also getting messages that say "the following midi inputs could not be opened: Nanokontrol 2" and "the following midi outputs could not be opened: Nanokontrol 2", even though I have enabled both in Reaper Preferences-Devices.
OK - just updated to the Korg driver, installed the Kontrol Editor and tried again. The controller can now "learn", but when I try to assign a knob of a VST to a pot (I am using Bootsy's Ferric TDS, for example), the pot makes the knob on the VST jump from 0 to 50% to 100% - there is no gradual movement. Assigning a fader to this same VST knob works perfectly, however. Can anyone think of a reason why this might happen?
On a more basic level, I am curious how people set this up for use in their workflow. For example, are you using this to control volume, pan, mute, etc. for 8 tracks? If so, are you also using it to simultaneously control a VST for a given track, or for the master? How? Or, are you controlling a single track at a time and one or more VSTs for that track (which would be my preferred use). Is that possible? Thanks again everyone for your help.
musicmike
11-08-2011, 01:11 PM
I got my nanokontrol2 today and already love it thanks to the setup help posted on this forum, but there's one problem I've been having.
When I use the Klinke configuration I can only move one fader at a time. If I move two, Reaper's onscreen faders get all jumpy and jittery -- apparently because, when you move a fader, the configuration makes Reaper select that one track and then adjust the volume.
If I use Reaper's default MCU configuration, it doesn't appear to exclusively select the track of the fader I'm using, which means a single given fader sometimes adjusts the volume of multiple tracks instead of just its own.
Is there any way I can move multiple faders simultaneously with Klinke MCU plugin? Not the biggest problem, just a little annoying.
LPBassman
11-09-2011, 04:28 AM
@bharris:
I had the same issue with the pots not turning smoothly using the set marker + Rew initialization. (I believe this is the Cubase template). When I switched to the Sonar template (set marker + Rec) I had smooth turning pan knobs. The only problem was once I turned them too far CW I had to turn them all the way CCW to start from "0" again. Try different NK2 initialization templates and see which one suits your needs better. All of the ones in the instructions that say to set the DAW to Mackie Control Universal are Mackie compatible. I am not running the Klinke extension.
@musicmike:
I had a related problem that I solved by assigning the Track right and left buttons to move to next track. In my case sometimes more than one track would move when I moved the fader for only one. Once I did this I was able to control a single track or move multiple faders to control multiple tracks.
I am only using the NK2 for the basics. Arming, Muting, Soloing tracks. Adjusting levels with the faders, panning, track selection and transport controlling. I have not yet tried to use it for VSTs.
33tetragammon
01-07-2012, 04:01 PM
@musicmike:
I had a related problem that I solved by assigning the Track right and left buttons to move to next track. In my case sometimes more than one track would move when I moved the fader for only one. Once I did this I was able to control a single track or move multiple faders to control multiple tracks.
I am only using the NK2 for the basics. Arming, Muting, Soloing tracks. Adjusting levels with the faders, panning, track selection and transport controlling. I have not yet tried to use it for VSTs.
I can't even get it to work properly.Tried different modes, now use the 'Cubase' mode. Even with your tips regarding the 'track' buttons it still doesn't work as i think it should.
The most irritating thing is that when i move multiple faders on the NK2, i get this 'light show' of multiple track selection. This also happens in Ableton Live 8.2.7.
The only way i can make it work properly is when i assign every control via the 'actions' menu, but then i don't get any feedback on any of the NK 2's buttons when adjusting them in the software.......Bummer..........And i can't use Klinke's stuff since i'm on Mac OSX.
DEV's, PLEASE JUST GIVE US MIDI FEEDBACK IN REAPER!!!!..........
Thethinker
01-14-2012, 03:37 PM
I'm with 33tetragammon and some others of you - I just cannot get this thing working well, so much so I'm on the verge of putting it over my knee and snapping it in two!
With "vanilla" Mackie emulation the faders are rendered pointless (33tetragammon's lightshow effect), and unfortunately with the Klinke extension and another plugin I found this effect remains.
This wouldn't be such an issue if, when in CC mode, I could assign actions solidly. The chief issue is that assigning buttons such as mute, solo or record arm toggle that action, rather than trigger that action, meaning for example that to arm track 1 for recording I have to hold the button down on the Nanokontrol! If I just press and release it, the track flashes as armed then disarms.
I'm really hoping that someone knows how I can overcome this toggling issue in CC mode, as it's rendering this little controller useless for me!
Thanks in advance of any help,
The Thinker
G-Sun
01-15-2012, 02:06 PM
If I just press and release it, the track flashes as armed then
Open Korg Editor
Go to "Button Behaviour" for the wanted parameter :)
Thethinker
01-16-2012, 04:34 AM
Thanks G-Sun, that's absolutely the solution, and I genuinely appreciate your assistance. I needed to change from "momentary" to "toggle" for each of the buttons causing an issue.
I have this unit pretty much up and running now (in CC mode), and for the money it seems pretty good. Mackie emulation mode would be lovely if I could get it ticking over consistently, but now it's running I'm not going to fiddle too much. Well, not for a week or so.....
Cheers,
The Thinker (although on this occasion, "The Muppet").
MJFarmermac
02-04-2012, 09:33 AM
Hey guys. I just got a Nanokontrol 2, primarily for controlling one of my VSTi's, so any Reaper functionality I get out of it is pure gravy. Being originally an analog guy, I love the idea of writing fader automation with an actual fader, but here's the deal- it's easier for me to say what I'd like the Nanokontrol NOT to do than what I'd like it to do. Most of the stuff I've seen seems like it's mapping the NK to 1-8 faders at a time. Here's what I DON'T want- I don't want to pull up a session that I have a pretty nice mix in, and suddenly my first 8 faders change to wherever I have the NK's faders set, thus skewing a mix that I had set up the way I wanted it. I'm not even sure if that's what the NK2 does. What would be the best way to setup the NK2 if I just wanted to, say, be able to write fader automation, pan, mutes, etc for selected tracks in Reaper? Would I be selling myself short this way? Like I said, the main purpose for me is to control a VSTi, so I just want it to work for that- any functionality in Reaper would be great, but I don't want any "why the hell did it do that?" moments or any "now it won't control my VSTi's anymore" moments. What say ye, masters of the nano-verse?
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